Some (basic?) questions about upgrading an MDA II - MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development

Hello, First of all i wanted to tell you guys that i really appreciate the things you are doing for the community and i hope i can help a bit 2.
I have a T-Mobile MDAII which i want to upgrade. I have seen the "today screen" of O2 and i really love it. I have some questions though about the upgrading.
- When i make a backup using XDATools can i safely restore it?
- Does it matter if my phone is still sim locked?
- Do i need the t_mobile to 02 rom update or can i just upload a new 02 rom?
- Using romkitchen, i have built a rom with "4.00.16 ENG T-Mobile US" Is this better then an O2 rom upgrade?
Does somebody have the latest upgrades for me?
- Radio stack upgrade
- Rom upgrade
Thanx

xces said:
- Using romkitchen, i have built a rom with "4.00.16 ENG T-Mobile US" Is this better then an O2 rom upgrade?
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I'm sorry, that i can't help you concernig to you other questions, but i only use the xda I device, but the cooked 4.00.16 ROM from the kitchen is useless for you. These Roms, out of the official kitchens are specified for the XDA I / MDA I /QTEK1010 device. But you have an xda II....
HTH
Stefan

xces,
You Stated:
- When i make a backup using XDATools can i safely restore it?
- Does it matter if my phone is still sim locked?
- Do i need the t_mobile to 02 rom update or can i just upload a new 02 rom?
- Using romkitchen, i have built a rom with "4.00.16 ENG T-Mobile US" Is this better then an O2 rom upgrade?
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Not sure about XDA Tools, but if this is for the XDA, not XDA II or MDA II, then it does not apply. Last item N/A also.
Yes I believe it would matter if your phone was locked, but cannot confirm.
You will need the cooked ROM, t_mobile to 02 rom update . Otherwise, you will run into the country error issue.
I also have an MDA II, and I would like to use this upgrade also, but I have been reluctant to use a custom ROM or hack, because I'm certain that my device's warranty wouldl be voided if I do so. I also understand that going back to a ROM or downgrading to a ROM may be problematic.
If you elect to install it let me know how you like the O2 Rom.

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Upgrade to O2 ROM from i-mate- Is it worth?

Hi folks,
I have an i-mate with the following specs:
ROM : 1.72.00WWE
Radio : 1.14.00
Protocol : 1337.24
Ext ROM : 1.72.800
After going through the numerous posts here, I am thoroughly confused. Can someone please clarify the following:
1. Is is better to upgrade to the new O2 ROM? If so which one, since I understand there are 2 versions.
2. If I do upgrade, there seems to be something called O2 active. Would this or any other settings hamper the usage of my phone since I live in India?
3. Can I have the procedure to do this upgrade?
My humble apologies if some of these questions have been answered before, but frankly, I am completely lost! :? Thanks a ton in advance.
Cheers!
Lakshman
Lakshman,
Will try to help you out once by compiling everthing from other threads:
1) There are 2 versions: (thanks to Nighthawk)
- v1.72.187 does not have Blackberry software built in. If you need to use a permanent GPRS connection that will remain connected when phone is used, you should use 187 version.
- v1.72.181 features Blackberry, will disconnect any connection when phone rings, except the Blackberry, Mobile Web and WAP connections. But so far haven't heard of any non UK O2 users able to use the Blackberry.
2) About 02 Active, i find it pretty but useless to non UK 02 users; therefore, once you upgraded your ROM it will prompt you for O2 Active Settings like Country, GPRS or GSM, just hit 'Cancel' and it won't install the GRPS or other network settings. You can still use the O2 Active but a lot of function will not be available for use in India. I removed mine.
3) Not too sure if your unit is CDL or O2 (info from HimaGetDeviceData.exe) but my upgrade was no issue at all; i just download from http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=12515 and ran the upgrade. If you encounter country ID error, then you would have to refer to DCS's thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=12101
Hope this helps.
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Hi lazzy!
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"just hit 'Cancel' and it won't install the GRPS or other network settings"
You mean I canot use my GPRS after cancelling and what other network settings are you referring to?
Can you elaborate? Thanks
:roll:
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Hi Lazzy,
Thanks to your input, I went through the upgrade successfully. Many thanks to DCS for his excellent step-by-step guide to fix country id errors.
I am now facing a curious problem. I downloaded the Appsuite for XDA II provided in one of the forums here. When I try to install the utilities I get an error on my PPC saying could not install, "please upgrade your ROM and try again!" But I believe I have the latest ROM now. Could someone please advise. :?
Cheers!
Lakshman
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lakshman_mn said:
...I am now facing a curious problem. I downloaded the Appsuite for XDA II provided in one of the forums here. When I try to install the utilities I get an error on my PPC saying could not install, "please upgrade your ROM and try again!" But I believe I have the latest ROM now. Could someone please advise. :?
Cheers!
Lakshman
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We are trying to sort this one out Hopefully someone will come up with an answer soon.
Hi guys,
thanks for running an awsom website...
I just want some clarification on this thread.
So it is okay to upgrade an i-mate with an O2 Rom such as v1.72.181 and is this the best ROM for devices such as the I-mate currently?
Anyone? please answer my previous question as I really want to upgrade...
bump..
As for the os and radio you can use any 1.72 / 1.17 rom.
The differencen between al the roms is in the extended rom and thus just a matter of functionality you want : choose anyone you like and use dcs' guide to upgrade.
thanks man, I appreciate it.
Re: RE live in Dubai - UAE, can I upgrade with this ROM
I live in Dubai UAE, can I upgrade my Imate with this ROM

O2 Trion and T-Mobile Vario II ->ROM upgrade to HTC TyTn

Hi all,
I'm quite new at ROM upgrading, so I apologize if any of my questions will be annoying to anyone.
I am about to buy O2 XDA Trion or T-Mobile MDA Vario II in Germany, and I plan to flash English ROM on it.
So here are the questions:
1. Will any type of ROM work on this brands of device ?
(Can I flash HTC TyTn English ROM on them. If not which ROM's can I use? Which one do you recommend?)
2. Will flashing new ROM unlock SIM ?
(If not, can you recommend me some good tool or method)
3. After upgrade to English ROM, will everything be in English ?
(Including all OS+Office apps. and keyboard layout, or do I have to set registry keys manually after?)
4. Which is the last known stable English HTC TyTn ROM (or O2 English) ?
(that it's enabling HSDPA also)
5. How to extract original ROM from device ?
(itsutils tool, or is there some better solution ?)
6. What is the benefit of Extended ROM ?
(does it exist Extended HTC TyTn ROM ?)
Already searched on forum, but still couldn't find answers to some of my questions. Anyway, I want to be sure before I do it.
I would appreciate any answers and/or advice.
Thank you all in advance.
Re: O2 Trion and T-Mobile Vario II ->ROM upgrade to HTC T
Mad_M said:
1. Will any type of ROM work on this brands of device ?
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Any of the ROMs listed here will be fine:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Upgrades
Mad_M said:
2. Will flashing new ROM unlock SIM ?
(If not, can you recommend me some good tool or method)
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No, it will not, but most probably your device will be Sim Unlocked.
If it is not, there is no free way of unlocking it *yet*, you can SIM Unlock it using imei-check service for 20pounds. See more info here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_SimUnlock
Mad_M said:
3. After upgrade to English ROM, will everything be in English ?
(Including all OS+Office apps. and keyboard layout, or do I have to set registry keys manually after?)
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Everything will be in english, but in German O2 trion you have an AZERTY keyboard (mapped to QWERTY after upgrade). If you want it to be AZERTY again you can change the layout using the keyboard registry hack found here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Registry
Mad_M said:
4. Which is the last known stable English HTC TyTn ROM (or O2 English) ?
(that it's enabling HSDPA also)
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Again, see this page for the latest roms:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Upgrades
Most of the roms come with HSDPA enabled, and if it is not, you can enable it using SetHSDPA /enable or fit4cat hermes tweaker, see more info here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Utils
Mad_M said:
5. How to extract original ROM from device ?
(itsutils tool, or is there some better solution ?)
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Info is here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_HowtoDumpRom
You can dump the original rom, but you cannot flash it back... most probably this will be quite unuseful for you.
Mad_M said:
6. What is the benefit of Extended ROM ?
(does it exist Extended HTC TyTn ROM ?)
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Read this:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_For_Beginners
And this:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtendedRoms
Mad_M said:
Already searched on forum, but still couldn't find answers to some of my questions. Anyway, I want to be sure before I do it.
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2nd Sticky post points you to the wiki, all my answers point you to the wiki because all your questions are answered there, so you have to read the wiki
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes
Re: O2 Trion and T-Mobile Vario II ->ROM upgrade to HTC T
Thanks Pof for quick answers !
Correct me if I understood it wrong, any ROM (HTC, O2 English, I-mate etc.) should work with both brands (O2, T-Mobile) ?
How can I then fall back to original ROM (if I would need it for warranty reasons) ?
Is the Extended ROM must, or can I live without it also ?
Re: O2 Trion and T-Mobile Vario II ->ROM upgrade to HTC T
Mad_M said:
Correct me if I understood it wrong, any ROM (HTC, O2 English, I-mate etc.) should work with both brands (O2, T-Mobile) ?
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That's right, you will get a Vendor ID when upgrading, you just need to run the upgrade utility twice without disconnecting your device. This is explained in the wiki too.
Mad_M said:
How can I then fall back to original ROM (if I would need it for warranty reasons) ?
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As O2 or T-Mobile has not released any rom upgrade yet, you cannot fall back to original rom. There is no known way of doing it because the typical commands to backup/restore to SD card have been removed in the Hermes bootloader. So upgrade at your own risk or don't upgrade if you pretend to return the unit
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Is the Extended ROM must, or can I live without it also ?
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You can live without it, but generally it fixes some things (you'll not be able to do video calls without it for example). All the cabs are not needed and there are some customizations, skins, etc which are really annoying for me. What I generally do is "reset" before the ExtROM installs on first boot after hard-reset, and then manually install the cabs I want: some taken from TyTN rom, some others taken from i-mate rom and some others taken from Dopod rom.
Hope that helps!
Upgrading at your own risk ... that may be risky ... LOL
But i did it and its worth,...... still waiting for the new O2 ROM ...
I've written a wiki page with all this:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_UpgradeFAQ
Can I flash HTC ROM and then add O2 Extended ROM ?
Will I then have all O2 specific stuff, and O2 skins?
Did anybody already tried this combination ?
Thanks in advance...
Mad_M said:
Can I flash HTC ROM and then add O2 Extended ROM ?
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Yes
Mad_M said:
Will I then have all O2 specific stuff, and O2 skins?
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Yes, operator customizations are always in ExtROM.
thanks pof, i don't know from where is this french rom come from, but i want tell thank for the someone who gives it [sorry for my bad english]
liva said:
thanks pof, i don't know from where is this french rom come from, but i want tell thank for the someone who gives it [sorry for my bad english]
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i see it at qtek.ch too
Mad_M wrote:
How can I then fall back to original ROM (if I would need it for warranty reasons) ?
As O2 or T-Mobile has not released any rom upgrade yet, you cannot fall back to original rom. There is no known way of doing it because the typical commands to backup/restore to SD card have been removed in the Hermes bootloader. So upgrade at your own risk or don't upgrade if you pretend to return the unit
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Now O2 has released a new Rom, so if I change to i-Mate I can always change to O2-Rom
Is That correct?
Jorshua said:
Now O2 has released a new Rom, so if I change to i-Mate I can always change to O2-Rom
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The O2 released ROM is in german, if the original language of your O2 branded Hermes was german, then the above statement is correct and you can flash any rom without worries as you can always revert back to o2 in case you have to return your unit
Thank you
I have bought my Trion yesterday but it's in german, and I want in english so I found this forum which is great.
Thank you gays for the good work.
Can you provide some other forums or sites with information about Software for PDA and other stuff.
I will spend the entire week reading the forum.
Best Regards ...

Dumped T-Mobile UK WM5 Rom needed

Hi guys I need the wm5 rom for warranty reasons I have found the correct rom in the wiki http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_DumpedRoms but I get page error when I click on DUMPED English ROM from TMobile Vario II
ROM version 1.21.110.3
ROM date 06/19/06
can anyone help?
Thanks, Chris.
I have found this rom and d/l it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=309187&highlight=Dumped+T-Mobile+UK+WM5
would I flash this dumped rom the same as normal? like the new wm6 roms?
Thanks.
Does this rom need reconstructing? or has it been done allready?
Thanks
hi
hi mate i think all you need is to just run and install
duttythroy said:
hi mate i think all you need is to just run and install
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Hi mate hows it going?
just spoke to a member jm012a9749 he has complifed an out of the box state rom which includes the WM5 radio ext rom and spl.
just waiting for him to get back to me later.
did you get the ameo?
no got the htc advantage instead look at my sig.
I will pm you
good luck with the dump rom
se4me said:
Hi mate hows it going?
just spoke to a member jm012a9749 he has complifed an out of the box state rom which includes the WM5 radio ext rom and spl.
just waiting for him to get back to me later.
did you get the ameo?
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Hi Mate,
Could you share that with me please? (need to send mine back to t-mobile for repair and not sure if they'll do it if I have WM6 installed)
Thanks!
Seb
if t-mobile uk hasnt released wm6 yet, you can just enter your cell phone number at (http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/help-and-advice/phone-support/) and it will give you the original download for t-mobile. good luck
-nstefanelli-
nstefanelli said:
if t-mobile uk hasnt released wm6 yet, you can just enter your cell phone number at (http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/help-and-advice/phone-support/) and it will give you the original download for t-mobile. good luck
-nstefanelli-
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I've entered my number but the only options are to receive settings for Internet, Email and MMS. No firmware updates are available for the Vario II. (unless I've missed something?)
Vario II T-Mobile WM5 ROM
Hi All,
IM also loking for the original WM5 for Warranty, can anyone kindly help me please?
Hems
Have a look in the Wiki HERE these are WM5 roms.
nstefanelli said:
if t-mobile uk hasnt released wm6 yet, you can just enter your cell phone number at (http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/help-and-advice/phone-support/) and it will give you the original download for t-mobile. good luck
-nstefanelli-
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Sadly it will only allow you to download the wizard rom and not the hermes.
You can find : http://rapidshare.com/files/17338983/ruu_hermes_tmhu_1.21.116.4_1.05.02.00_wwe_ship.exe
It's for UK TMOBILE
That ROM has Hungarian language settings and would show as the locale defaults i.e. date on today screen that when a hard reset is applied. I was also looking for an original UK ROM image and found one courtesy of the forums.
Thinking on is the default locale settings for a given ROM held in the extended ROM ? The reason I ask is that I flashed with a Hungarian image and then a UK ROM image, but the Hungarian locale settings are in play when a hard-reset is applied. Given I need to return the unit for a screen fault I obviously want to restore the unit to it's original state.
Can anyone help ?
Thanks

Upgrading MDA Vario II with HTC Rom - open questions

Hi comm!
I have a T-Mobile MDA Vario II, Rom Version: 1.21.
Can i upgrade my PPC with the released WM6 update of HTC without any problems, although i have a differently branded TyTN? Will all functions work (telephone, internet)? And can i downgrade my WM6 to WM5 easily or can I reactive my current system status with a backup (SK Tools)? Last but not least, what will the warranty say?
Thanks for your efforts.
PS: sorry for all these maybe stupid questions...but i´m just a beginner =)
upgrading to WM 6 worked for me as did unlocking ;-)
If you do not use an official T-mobile ROM update forget any warranty, unless you're able to downgrade to the original one
I have an original Rom from T-Mobile. Do you know what happens with the warranty of T-Mobile when you unlock the CID? Does the CID still will be unlocked if you install another Rom? Can you lock it again?
It won´t be possible unless you downgrade to your old ROM again. I am not sure if that´s possible, though.
I went along the way described at http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php...ask=view&id=65&Itemid=26&limit=1&limitstart=4
If you follow the directions including the upgrade to wm6 from Custel, you can afterwards install the German WM6 version from HTC. It won´t work directly. The CID will stay locked and the HTC cannot be installed until you installed the CUSTEL version.
I think the T-Mobile contract does not allow to modify the system in this way.
How to
Using the search function gave me thread as the first result.(Couldnt find any how to guides)
So.. What do i need to do to upgrade my ROM? i have a fresh MDA vario II just got repaired from the shop.(Nothing to do with bricking if you;re wondering)
Can some one please give me a simple step by step guide on how to upgrade.
Thanks a bunch
HELP
i have 8525, and i installed WM6, with different applications and i cant get the voice dial to work and cant find any applications or roms, does anyone know how i can get it to work?

Official 02 rom to official generic rom?

Ok bascially my hd2 is locked to 02 and has an 02 rom (i.e. Displays "02" when booting) but I want to update it to the generic official rom and not the official 02 rom (long story)
I know my phone will remain locked on 02 but can I go to a generic rom without risk of bricking or is there some sort of security in place that means the phone has to have an 02 or a cooked rom installed?
Thanks
Baileygates said:
Ok bascially my hd2 is locked to 02 and has an 02 rom (i.e. Displays "02" when booting) but I want to update it to the generic official rom and not the official 02 rom (long story)
I know my phone will remain locked on 02 but can I go to a generic rom without risk of bricking or is there some sort of security in place that means the phone has to have an 02 or a cooked rom installed?
Thanks
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Take a look at this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=825397
Follow the process A,B and C
That will get you to the stock 3.14 ROM.
I used the 2GB microSD card which came with the phone and the CID was the one mentioned in B.O.2 so I was able to do it for free.
When you say "locked on O2" have you tried other sims? I've been with O2 for years and never been locked to them, I often use an orange PAYG sim for Orange Wednesdays and I've used a friend's Voda sim to test something before too.
Tyvm that is the anwser I was looking for
for a nice bit of reading - * HERE *
If your O2 phone is running ROM version 1.48 or 1.72, then you can simply run HSPL2 then flash HTC stock ROM 1.66WWE. 1.66 is the same as 1.72 without the guff.
fred_up said:
for a nice bit of reading - * HERE *
If your O2 phone is running ROM version 1.48 or 1.72, then you can simply run HSPL2 then flash HTC stock ROM 1.66WWE. 1.66 is the same as 1.72 without the guff.
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What guff do you mean?
xaccers said:
What guff do you mean?
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Well if O2 are anything like T-Mobile UK, then there is their Web'n'Walk software. It doesn't take 3+ months to bring out the 1.72 ROM based on the 1.66 ROM without some major mucking about.
fred_up said:
Well if O2 are anything like T-Mobile UK, then there is their Web'n'Walk software. It doesn't take 3+ months to bring out the 1.72 ROM based on the 1.66 ROM without some major mucking about.
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Ah thankfully the O2 ROMs are very clean, and in my experience stable.
Other than the O2 APN settings app, and the O2 splash screen before the horrible orange MS one, that's about it.

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