Screwed up my SX56? - MDA, XDA, 1010 General

I was upgrading my Siemens SX56 with the XDA SER 1.2 via USB. It started well, it read the version etc. Then the screen of the PDA went to the upgrading state (might take up to 5 minutes). Then I received a message that the program could not communicate with the device or something like that (I dont remember the exact message bacause I was scared and clicked ok)
Then, the most horrible thing. The device was there in that upgrading state, I had to take it out the cradle. I reseted it and it was the same screen.
Is there a way to make it live again?

no solution?
searching through the forums I saw a lot of users with the same problem. Is that there is on hope for us?
I will pay to someone to point me to the right solution. pleaseee help!

have you tried the SD-card method (with XDA Tools)?
should be easy as pie

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Help - Please

Sorry for annoying every one here. The problem with phone is this.
I have a O2 XDA Mini S which I recently bought. The person I bought it off had removed the O2 stuff with some other ROM. There was a few niggly problems mainly the symbol keys were assigned to the wrong keys etc.
I followed a link on the O2 website which said it was an upgrade. I installed this and it appears to actually have "downgraded" the phone. Now my phone once again has all the O2 branded stuff, I'm not an O2 customer. I'm on Meteor in Ireland.
I've tried downloading almost every file I could find related to this. New ROMs etc but once I try to install them the screen goes RGB and I get Error 300 invalid update tool
As I said I've try almost all links I can find to rectify this with no joy.
Could some very nice person out there, talk me through the steps to get my phone back running with an up to date ROM?
I'd greatly appreciate it guys. I'm a total newbie at this so I hope you'll take it easy on me
you need to use shelltool.
you will find it at the top of the G4 forum.
hope this helps.
Thanks Stabloid.
I'll give that a try when I get home. Do I just run the shell tool and then install the ROM?
Hey Stabloid,
I downloaded Shelltool. Unfortunately there was no instructions with it.
From what I could figure out I put the two cab files on the xda/ wizard and installed them there. I rebooted the xda then tried running the shell tool.
I've tried it a few times. I let the program run for an hour last night and nothing happend it just kept saying "Do not disconnect..."
The other error I kept getting was "please make hard reset" followed by a list of instructions which I followed and yet still got the same results.
Can someone please help me out with this or supply full instructions for the shell tool?
Thanks.

Cannot recover from hard reset

Hi all,
I have the HTC X7500 (unbranded) version. I have upgraded to WM6 several weeks ago using the method described on the forum (unlock by "IMEI check" then upgrade using ATHE100).
(on the bootloader I have:
ATHE100
IPL-v1.00
ATHE100
SPL-v1.10.RP00)
Today I tried to hard reset my device:
- I hold the camera button and press "reset"
- I have the "press action to restore factory default"
- when I do so I get "press power key too boot"
- I press the power key and the screen goes black and nothing happens...
What is going wrong? What should I do?
Thank you for your help.
Silviu
silviu.h said:
Hi all,
I have the HTC X7500 (unbranded) version. I have upgraded to WM6 several weeks ago using the method described on the forum (unlock by "IMEI check" then upgrade using ATHE100).
(on the bootloader I have:
ATHE100
IPL-v1.00
ATHE100
SPL-v1.10.RP00)
Today I tried to hard reset my device:
- I hold the camera button and press "reset"
- I have the "press action to restore factory default"
- when I do so I get "press power key too boot"
- I press the power key and the screen goes black and nothing happens...
What is going wrong? What should I do?
Thank you for your help.
Silviu
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I won't flame you but the answer should be in the manual and is also all over the forum. Take this moment to teach yourself how to become more resourceful and find answers and become a better forum member. Good luck.
Also, to answer your question as to what you should do....read a little more as you'll need to be more knowledgeable with the device you have.
Hello,
Thank you for your reply (and for not flaming me ). I have managed to get it working again by flashing a Windows Mobile 5 ROM (by mistake) and then the Windows Mobile 6 again. However I still do not understand what exactly went wrong, why it works again now and what will happen next time I hard reset.
I had already read a lot of posts on the forum, however the learning curve is steep, and there are a lot of things to understand which are rarely explained from the ground up (most of the time the learning process must be made by assumptions and by inferring from what problems others have and how they solved them). And quite understandably I don't want to experiment too much with my device, especially when I read solutions that worked for other devices (like the Universal), and that might or might now work for mine.
Anyway, it's a shame that one has to become a PocketPC boot process expert in order to get out of such a situation, especially if one got into it without doing anything stupid (which I think is my case).
As a UNIX administrator and hacker I do know the power of RTFM, but I don't think it applies to each and every question.
Regards,
Silviu
silviu.h said:
Hello,
Thank you for your reply (and for not flaming me ). I have managed to get it working again by flashing a Windows Mobile 5 ROM (by mistake) and then the Windows Mobile 6 again. However I still do not understand what exactly went wrong, why it works again now and what will happen next time I hard reset.
I had already read a lot of posts on the forum, however the learning curve is steep, and there are a lot of things to understand which are rarely explained from the ground up (most of the time the learning process must be made by assumptions and by inferring from what problems others have and how they solved them). And quite understandably I don't want to experiment too much with my device, especially when I read solutions that worked for other devices (like the Universal), and that might or might now work for mine.
Anyway, it's a shame that one has to become a PocketPC boot process expert in order to get out of such a situation, especially if one got into it without doing anything stupid (which I think is my case).
As a UNIX administrator and hacker I do know the power of RTFM, but I don't think it applies to each and every question.
Regards,
Silviu
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I don't believe you have to become and expert to get out of JAMs, however I do believe you better understanding what you are doing before you start flashing your phone or device with something not released by your phone Operator.
Keep in mind you got yourself into that situation when you decide you are going to unlock your phone (play with the BIOS) and flash it with a WM6 ROM (Unsupported OS). Being a Unix Administrator, how often do you play with an Ultrasparc BIOS then decide to install an unsupported version of Solaris on it.
Nonetheless the Windows Mobile device does not cost as much and it would only affect you if you bricked it. The point I am trying to make here is that what we are doing with these phones are pretty serious and if you choose not take baby steps and read carefully, then you better be prepare to purchase new device and deal with the outcome.
I am not flaming anyone, but I think people needs to understand this is serious and the Athena is not $49.99 or free with a two year contract
Mayby my post will help a little.
First : you have to have battery charged for 100% ( my a few upgrade stopped in booting proces after upgrade because battery was on the level 70% ) So try to made HR with unit connected to power charger ( not to USB in PC)
Second: Try to go BL mode , if yes you can upgrade again, try it few times
Third : Last solution is to boot in BL mode with miniSD card with Atheimg.nbh on it , the same you have try few times
As up today it helps me.
Hello,
Thank you for your help but I said above: "I have managed to get it working again by flashing a Windows Mobile 5 ROM (by mistake) and then the Windows Mobile 6 again." So things are OK for me
Besides, since then I have flashed to HardSPL, and hard-reset seems to be working OK now.
Thank you anyway and long live the forum
Silviu

How to upgrade?

I know there is a wiki and that's why I'm asking... I have this now:
herm100
ipl-1.01
herm100 spl-1.06+
That's on the bootloader screen, and I just did a hard reset. I've been using the default sh*t since it came out and have had so many problems. I want to upgrade to WM6 but I want to make sure it is as safe as possible. What should I do? Like what order? I saw some downgrade and stuff and I don't know.
I tried to upgrade to Hard-SPL-V7 like 100x with the Advanced Connection in PPC on & off. No matter what, I get the Error 260 ( my PPC says the bootloader is trying to run, I say Yes, allow it to run, and then it just disconnects from PC. happens even when I am unresponsive and don't click Yes )
I want to end up with a WM6 that won't eat battery, and will just load fast.
After you give me that advice... I had like 40+ applications before and I did so much to my 8525 to make it awesome and now it's all gone. So can you give me hints to this:
-Application to x out of programs
-How to make it stop shutting off every certain amount of minutes
-How to make it not freeze as often
-Any other hints.
Thanks in advance.
hi, i was haveing error 260 for the last few days
i changed my usb lead and the problem went away
i spoke to someone (cmonex) who said its a problem between pc and phone, try a different pc, but i found changing the cable worked fine
you could also try the thread where they update from the phone memory card, altho it never worked for me (tbh i havent tried it since ive changed my cable)
hope this helps, it might not but i did have same error code
Still the same error...
I'm using the default ROM now and I want to try out WM6 and first try the Hard SPL so it'll be safer. Any other advice guys?
Anybody? I really want to upgrade I've used this same ROM with the same errors for so long now =/
I have found im also getting this problem. earlier I updated to the latest radio software and that went ok and works fine. Now I cant update to anything.
First thing, I take it your Activesync is running fine... what version are you using. 4.5?
To it put as simply as possible. Get HardSPL on your phone some how.
Then stick on which ever ROM you want... Schaps 4.01 seems to be quite popular right now though he is working on a new one with some nice features so you may or may not want to wait.
I strongly advise people to use the MicroSD way of flashing as it's much safer. Many people don't have stable usb connections (and don't know it) which is why they end up bricking their phone. Even if you have HardSPL it's less hassle not to brick it in the first place.
Lastly, you have to search and read (and occasional ask), which is how most people here get their phone working the way they want.
Hey,
Like Wam7 says get Hard SPL on there...Here's a few ideas that worked for me. Please forgive any errors or omissions. Others may have better advice for you as well..
With an error 260, I believe you must first deal with your USB connection issues, ie: make sure you can remain connected properly to effect an upgrade on the bootloader level.
WIN XP: If your running AS 4.5 and getting a 260 error, try connecting to AS 1st, let it sync do all of its work...When the phone is chilled out, then start your wrapper for HARD SPL..There are some more ideas for AS here:
http://www.htcwiki.com/thread/667087/ActiveSync+and+Rom+8525?t=anon
VISTA: the native WMDC drivers for the HTC hermes aren't compatible when our phones go into bootloader..(That's why you hear 2 distinct "Disconnect/Reconnect" sounds when you go into bootloader)..Use Mr. Vanx's guide to force the connection. It can be found here: MR. VANX'S VISTA GUIDE
After you can connect and get Hard SPL loaded, 90% of your worries may be gone..You can still brick your phone but there's some safety built in.
Another good piece of advice I recieved was to flash your carrier's standard ROM and try it 1st..you may like it...If you don't then see if anyone has cooked a carrier specific ROM you may use...There are a couple of really good At&t specific ROMs: VP3G has a great one..Just try some out to see what you like. Thats the only way to get the ROM you are happy with.
Once you have a rom flashed, somebody told me to do a hard reset before configuring and customizing your rom...Maybe it seems to burn it in..Don't know..
I shut EVERYTHING down when I flash, programs, antivirus, software firewall, anything running in taskbar, SearchIndexer, I even disable my internet connection..I even throw my cat out of the room..15 minutes, its over and evrything can go back to normal..
Good luck..
Thanks for all your replies.. but this one, jesus christ. Dude, literally after I read this I followed the steps, and in 10 minutes I have Hard SPL AND the Scaps ROM there. Your advice is f*cking Godly, everybody who has my error... FOLLOW IT! His advice literally 101% solved my problems! Thanks so much bro!
shihayadreamer said:
Hey,
Like Wam7 says get Hard SPL on there...Here's a few ideas that worked for me. Please forgive any errors or omissions. Others may have better advice for you as well..
With an error 260, I believe you must first deal with your USB connection issues, ie: make sure you can remain connected properly to effect an upgrade on the bootloader level.
WIN XP: If your running AS 4.5 and getting a 260 error, try connecting to AS 1st, let it sync do all of its work...When the phone is chilled out, then start your wrapper for HARD SPL..There are some more ideas for AS here:
http://www.htcwiki.com/thread/667087/ActiveSync+and+Rom+8525?t=anon
VISTA: the native WMDC drivers for the HTC hermes aren't compatible when our phones go into bootloader..(That's why you hear 2 distinct "Disconnect/Reconnect" sounds when you go into bootloader)..Use Mr. Vanx's guide to force the connection. It can be found here: MR. VANX'S VISTA GUIDE
After you can connect and get Hard SPL loaded, 90% of your worries may be gone..You can still brick your phone but there's some safety built in.
Another good piece of advice I recieved was to flash your carrier's standard ROM and try it 1st..you may like it...If you don't then see if anyone has cooked a carrier specific ROM you may use...There are a couple of really good At&t specific ROMs: VP3G has a great one..Just try some out to see what you like. Thats the only way to get the ROM you are happy with.
Once you have a rom flashed, somebody told me to do a hard reset before configuring and customizing your rom...Maybe it seems to burn it in..Don't know..
I shut EVERYTHING down when I flash, programs, antivirus, software firewall, anything running in taskbar, SearchIndexer, I even disable my internet connection..I even throw my cat out of the room..15 minutes, its over and evrything can go back to normal..
Good luck..
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Well it turns out all I needed to do was do a Phone reset and all was fine again. ended up ditching the new rom as It messed up my adress book on the PC and a few other things wernt too hot. Gonna try another one later.
Error [302] - updating to WM6 on a 8525
I'm trying to upgrade to WM6 and gets to 64% of the update and I get this Error [302].
Herm100
IPL-1.04
SPL-2.10.olipro
R 1.54.07.00
G 32.86u7020.23H
D 3.62
Anyone with this same problem????

Stuck at 11% and Tri Color Sreen when Flashing WM6 Rom

Obviously I'm a n00b I just got my 8525 yesterday, right away I upgraded to WM6 went all day today with it working fine, I installed a PockMSN and Windows Live anyways to keep it short I FIGURED I WOULD just RE-INSTALL Windows Mobile 6 to get a fresh phone (didnt know hard reset did the same) Actually it was the 3rd time I flashed the OS and RE-UPGRADED to WM6 to get a fresh phone!!!!
~heres the trouble~
In the middle of the reinstalling WM6 I accidentally reset my computer, didnt realize it right away and, got ERROR 260 I believe, anyways I followed the directions, took out the battery and reset, plugged the USB back and RAN the Offical WM6 Rom of HTC site again and it keeps getting stuck EVERYTIME at 11%, I have tried it like 10 times and it gets stuck at 11%, and I get the same ERROR. Says Communication error 260. I have tried everything I know reset the computer, changed USB cords, and Nothing, everytime it gets stuck at 11%!!!!!!
Any Ideas about how to get my 2 day old Hermes back??
(I know i did a n00bish thing and I am sorry)
same place everytime!!
I tried to reinstall Active Sync, changed USB cables, switched USB ports, nothing!! I keep getting ERROR 262 (thought it was 260 at 1st) and wont get past 11% says no connection. I do notice everytime i try this process, Active Sync isnt connected, but the Hermes is connected to the computer! Cause if it cant read the hermes it wouldnt be able to even start the update process. But 11% everytime its stops
nicknowsky said:
I tried to reinstall Active Sync, changed USB cables, switched USB ports, nothing!! I keep getting ERROR 262 (thought it was 260 at 1st) and wont get past 11% says no connection. I do notice everytime i try this process, Active Sync isnt connected, but the Hermes is connected to the computer! Cause if it cant read the hermes it wouldnt be able to even start the update process. But 11% everytime its stops
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Perhaps you could try to flash using the sdcard method. So you would not be connected to a pc anymore. Who knows, it could solve your problem. I know one case where installing an official rom cured also a similar problem.
Quick summary of the sdcard method:
Use an empty sdcard formatted in FAT32
Copy the RUU_Signed.nbh file containing the OS to the card and rename it: hermimg.nbh
Enter bootloader mode (OK + POWER + Softreset). Normally, after the 3colors screen, you will get "Loading" followed by a description of what is on the card.
When ready, press power and... wait...
Good luck (The phone is NOT connected to the pc)
sounds good but I dont have a MicroSD card reader to do that. And I am using an Offical HTC WM6 ROM, thats all I ever used was the offical WM6 Rom from the AT&T site. Like I said, I was able to install WM6 already, but me being a complete idiot was Flashing the upgrade ROM to get the Hermes back to fresh phone factory settings. But I accidentally reset the computer in the middle of Flshing and since then I have never been able to get it to install again, everytime I turn on the phone I am stuck at the Tri-Color Screen, I am able to restart the upgrade process, but it stops at 11% says ERROR 262 and no connectivity!!
please anybody knows anything, this is the only thing I got, my mom got it for me! We cant afford to get a new one, or even fix it, it was a special present!
nicknowsky said:
please anybody knows anything, this is the only thing I got, my mom got it for me! We cant afford to get a new one, or even fix it, it was a special present!
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Ok. I am a bit annoyed if you cannot try the sdflash method (BTW you can ask somebody having a PC to prepare the card for you.)
There are different things you can flash on your hermes. Radio, OS, Splash screens, Extended Rom,.... The most tricky thing is the radio rom as a failure there has a higher probability to brick your pda.
This is why i believe it is very dangerous to flash right away without some readings and understanding about what you do. i hope you had some experience here.
Did you first install hardspl (olipro 2.10 )? This is not mandatory but is a very good protection against bricking. (here the excellent guide of mrvanx: http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=30&Itemid=27 )
Did you flash also a radio rom? (Was it included in the "package" you wanted to flash?) If yes, i am a bit anxious that a stop at 11% is a problem... BUT, if you flashed a radio rom, it goes very, very, very... slowly. And gives the feeling that it freezes. For the "radio" part it is normal . I hope you did not stop the process too soon.
Once again, try the sdcard method. Or try to flash an official rom (most of the time containing a radio part...) and be patient. Can take till 25 minutes.
If this does not work, do not panic yet. Others had also problems before you: go there and start reading : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286755 and here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Unbrick
There is a hope to solve your problem. Good luck
Try to flash a radio ROM, turn the device on and if it stays at the bootloader screen (the tri colour screen) make a note of the version displayed. Hook up the device with USB cable, dont worry about activesync.
Download and unzip a radio ROM upgrade (try this one), run the exe, select your bootloader version on the screen....follow the screens through and see if it works.....radio roms take ages to flash so DO NOT disconnect your device.....if it doesnt work you most likely have a corrupted radio bootloader.............which is likely since the radio flash takes the longest ammount of time the reset probably occurred halfway through this.................unlucky
Give it a try though.
The lesson to learn here is to READ THRICE and flash once.....never ever disconnect your device out of impatience (which i suspect has happened many times on a radio flash) and be carefull these devices are expensive
mrvanx said:
The lesson to learn here is to READ THRICE and flash once.....never ever disconnect your device out of impatience (which i suspect has happened many times on a radio flash) and be carefull these devices are expensive
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I could not say better
I know, the MicroSD method is nice, but when I got the phone the guy gave me a MicroSD card, but not the regular SD card to read it on computers ( i do have a card reader) Guys a super appreciate the replies> I am gonna try everything rite now, but real quick is my Hermes FUCT??? or is this error fixable??? It is just losing communication everytime at the exact same place, it just seems like something is fixable, but my sorry luck i cant get over the hump!! I will let ya'll know ASAP
okay, here is the thing, Every Hermes ROM update utility I have downloaded wont work, i start it and the VERIFY INFO ON HERMS windows appears about 2 minutes late I get ERROR 260 and it exits! Now when I use the OFFICAL WM6 upgrade ROM from the ATT/HTC site it seems to read the HERMES and wanna start the upgrade process, but thats where it ends at 11% No other RUU I have used or tried has even gotten that far, I just get ERROR 260 before it starts and I have to exit.
What it looks like is I cant communicate with my HERMES at ALL!! Active Sync wont see, only when I reset my computer and reset the HERMES and I plug it in a different USB port, it says Installing New Hardware and HTC USB something and then Hardware has installed and is now ready to use. But Active Sync wont recogniZe it
I'm sorry to tell you that but i think you ****ed up your phone and it is as useless as my ****ing jasjam.
please give us some detailed info s about your hermes like IPL SPL GSM STATUS....
When I am in Tri Color Mode I see.......
HERM100
IPL-1.04
HERM100
SPL-2.03
and SERIAL at bottom, then USB when I plug it in to my computer
I had upgraded to WM6 before on it, but me being a impulsive FOOL, i flashed it again to get me back to Factory Setting (didnt know HARD RESET did the same) and I accidentally RESET my computer in the middle of ROM Upgrading and ever since I cant get past 11% when I try to do it again (using the OFFICAL WM6 ROM from HTC)
and I cant get any communication with mtty although I dont know much about that app, I get a CANT load screen appear
is your phone KITL enabled.
hold the COMM manager button + POWER button + OK button (the one on the left side under the jog wheel) and reset with stylus.
if you see KITL dialogue then it is KITL enabled (MY bricked jasjam is KITL disabled)
if it is KITL enabled then read : http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=PB_KITL_HERMES and your phone will be just fine.
if it is not then your phone is ****ed up just like mine
HA HA, me and my phone guy (well the guy who I bought my Hermes from) HAVE FOUND A FIX to get the phone outta Bootloader Mode and back into OS!! in my case WM6!! I have to do it 1 more time to fully confirm the method!!!!!!!! My friend is calling "SHOCKING THE PHONE" but not really shocking anything!! I am reluctant to share the method, but this site needs more people to actually HELP out others
nicknowsky said:
HA HA, me and my phone guy (well the guy who I bought my Hermes from) HAVE FOUND A FIX to get the phone outta Bootloader Mode and back into OS!! in my case WM6!! I have to do it 1 more time to fully confirm the method!!!!!!!! My friend is calling "SHOCKING THE PHONE" but not really shocking anything!! I am reluctant to share the method, but this site needs more people to actually HELP out others
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Hey dude!
Would you kindly provide me the sulotion.
I would appreciate it.
nicknowsky said:
HA HA, me and my phone guy (well the guy who I bought my Hermes from) HAVE FOUND A FIX to get the phone outta Bootloader Mode and back into OS!! in my case WM6!! I have to do it 1 more time to fully confirm the method!!!!!!!! My friend is calling "SHOCKING THE PHONE" but not really shocking anything!! I am reluctant to share the method, but this site needs more people to actually HELP out others
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Mmm... do i understand correctly your post? Are you hesitating to help others because your method is risky, or because you express some exasperation about people on this site? In this case, do not forget that all people here are exchanging ideas, questions etc on a totally free base without any obligation. In the limits of there knowledge. Encountering a problem after flashing a device is the only responsability of the user. We just try to help. But i prefer to believe that you found a method, still risky, that you need still to test
That said, it seems that there are an increasing number of hermes encountering a problem with the radio part. It seems that stopping a flash at 11% is a symptom of that. See some consolidation of those problems here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349461
I hope you will find a solution for your problem and moreover i hope that none of you bought a hermes second hand with an already radio part problem. If so try always to get your money back...
I AM trying to confirm my method BEFORE i share it, because it might work on mine, and I dont wanna screw anyones hermes up more
nicknowsky said:
I AM trying to confirm my method BEFORE i share it, because it might work on mine, and I dont wanna screw anyones hermes up more
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Why don't you answer my PMs????
Please tell me your sulotion and let me try that if you have any

SPL 1.2 device flashed with wrong ROM

Hi All,
Seams I have done a stupid thing,
I have flashed a SPL 3.5 ROM (TAXIS ATHE100_WWE_96_192_4.SS.TX_WM6_1_b21041_1_6_0) onto my X7500 Dopod (U1000 phone) that only had SPL-v1.20.Olipro inplace!!!
(I was testing a few ROMs stored on my hard disk and picked the wrong one to flash!)
Now every time I start the phone I have to re align the cursor/stylus (which probable indicates a major problem!), and I don't like this ROM for lots of reasons - it probably suits someone else just fine but it's not for me
I can still connect to the X7500 with Mobile Device Center (MDC).
But when I try to re-flash any other ROMs (those that previously worked with SPL 1.2 the day before) using a USB cable and MDC, after 30 seconds or so it fails with ERROR 260 CONNECTION error on MDC, but the cable is good! During the process the phone starts to reboot, the screen is messy (bad video driver or something?) and then it launches the already installed TAXIS Windows Mobile to be Aligned again!
I have see some other issues that have a bit of similarity to this but cannot find a solution.
Any comments would be appreciated. I've only had the device for a few days. Is there a workaround to recover this. I think I can access folders and copy files to the device from MDC although I have not tried this.
Sorry for the long post!
Regards
Markster
me again....
I'm still a bit confused, is it possible to upgrade the SPL to 3.5, which I should have done in the first place..... or is it too late for that.
You can try the sdcard method if the device still have SPL 1.20-Olipro ... Read the wiki
Thanks for the suggestion... I will give that a go. Though for some reason I can no longer get the tri colour screen anymore. I recall now that I left the sdcard and sim in when I initially botch things up and have since read that causes unpredictable results. I can still launch win 6.1, but it re-initialized ever time I start up and I have to re-enter data. Not good, almost but not quite a brick!

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