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I tried the T-Mobile 1.60 rom on my O2 xda2.
It works perfectly with my xda2.
However, I found some interest thing on the new rom upgrade process
1. It seems XDA2 (or HTC Himalaya) use one single program for RAIDO / Extended Rom / OS Rom update. It seems Radio upgrade failure may no longer case device failure, because the RADIO upgrade process is same as OS upgrade process, and not required to copy the whole software into the RAM to upgrade.
2. Sinces some of us (and my XDA2) report that the exteneded rom is READ ONLY, but the upgrade program can update the extended rom. That means the Exteneded rom is not REALLY read only, but somewhere locked it. More funny is , it is seems the Main OS rom is not controlling the exteneded rom is locked or not, because after I updated the extended rom, it is still locked.
3. If O2 XDA2 can use T-Mobile MDA2 update, it seems the upgrade software no longer check the header of the device (At lease this version won't). I think we can use it to change device's language. However I don't know how to dump the rom in .nbf format, is that possible to convert the nb1 format to nbf format?
Thanks.
Hi killercheung...
where are you find the 1.60 rom ?
and the radio what version is ?
Can you put it in my ftp pls ?
it's always on
ftp://dgmatic.com
user: xda
pass: xda
port: 21
...like this we can have it all
Thanks in advance
Denis
I asked here for you, hopefully it will be available for everyone soon:
http://www.ppcsg.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=173744#173744
-arebelspy
killercheung, thanks for that... I'm still deciding whether to apply the new rom to my UK XDA II.... is the language of the rom netherlands? or can I have it all in english as it is with the normal O2 rom?
Do we lose anything from the o2 rom/extended rom ?
I'm wondering if O2 do bring an upgrade out if we'll be able to still use it if we've tried this t-mobile 1.60 rom.... hmmmmm
hmmm decisions decisions... do you think its much better than the current o2 rom?
Now that I have moved to the 1.60 rom, I must say there's ONE thing I DO miss ....
My O2 BUBBLES ARE GONE FROM MY ASIAN O2.
(I obviously knew this could happen, but thought I'd made a backup of my extended ROM (I DID, but I accidentally tossed it a few days ago) . Who would be so kind as to send me a copy of the O2.cab file from the extended rom, so that I can put the bubbles back into my dialer ...)
Wiz said:
Now that I have moved to the 1.60 rom, I must say there's ONE thing I DO miss ....
My O2 BUBBLES ARE GONE FROM MY ASIAN O2.
(I obviously knew this could happen, but thought I'd made a backup of my extended ROM (I DID, but I accidentally tossed it a few days ago) . Who would be so kind as to send me a copy of the O2.cab file from the extended rom, so that I can put the bubbles back into my dialer ...)
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No need to be sad. Check ur e-mail. Inform me if it doesn't arrive.
satria said:
Wiz said:
Now that I have moved to the 1.60 rom, I must say there's ONE thing I DO miss ....
My O2 BUBBLES ARE GONE FROM MY ASIAN O2.
(I obviously knew this could happen, but thought I'd made a backup of my extended ROM (I DID, but I accidentally tossed it a few days ago) . Who would be so kind as to send me a copy of the O2.cab file from the extended rom, so that I can put the bubbles back into my dialer ...)
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No need to be sad. Check ur e-mail. Inform me if it doesn't arrive.
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mind sending me a copy too ?
thanks in advance
[email protected]
Re: Some interesting things on the T-Mboile 1.60 update soft
Hi Killercheung,
You've missed out something ... the EXE file can be unzipped (using Winrar) ... you will then see the same upgrade.exe files, nbf files (3 of them) ... you can then deleted the ms_.nbf so that only the CORE ROM and RADIO is updated, and keep all O2 EXTENDED_ROM content untouch.
You can also use the same method to upgrade to Chinese ...
somesex
killercheung said:
I tried the T-Mobile 1.60 rom on my O2 xda2.
It works perfectly with my xda2.
However, I found some interest thing on the new rom upgrade process
1. It seems XDA2 (or HTC Himalaya) use one single program for RAIDO / Extended Rom / OS Rom update. It seems Radio upgrade failure may no longer case device failure, because the RADIO upgrade process is same as OS upgrade process, and not required to copy the whole software into the RAM to upgrade.
2. Sinces some of us (and my XDA2) report that the exteneded rom is READ ONLY, but the upgrade program can update the extended rom. That means the Exteneded rom is not REALLY read only, but somewhere locked it. More funny is , it is seems the Main OS rom is not controlling the exteneded rom is locked or not, because after I updated the extended rom, it is still locked.
3. If O2 XDA2 can use T-Mobile MDA2 update, it seems the upgrade software no longer check the header of the device (At lease this version won't). I think we can use it to change device's language. However I don't know how to dump the rom in .nbf format, is that possible to convert the nb1 format to nbf format?
Thanks.
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Good news about the T-Mobile ROM. I don't know what they have fixed/patched, but my O2 XDA II ROM never bothered to disconnect the GPRS connection after having spent some time online, not after surfing, not after checking e-mail. Mind you the T-moblile ROM doesn't either, except ....... when checking e-mail, which in my eyes is quite important.
So now I can go back to have my XDA check my e-mail once per hour, knowing that it will disconnect automatically.
(And Satria, thanks for sending me my bubbles
@ ming:
check ur email. Also I've seen ur review at PPCSG forum. Great.
Regards,
satria
Hi,
Just one question. Did any of you that make the update testet with the bluetooth GPS?
If yes, It works? or you still have to install TOWA´s patch?
Regards
JoseF
Re: Some interesting things on the T-Mboile 1.60 update soft
somesex said:
Hi Killercheung,
You've missed out something ... the EXE file can be unzipped (using Winrar) ... you will then see the same upgrade.exe files, nbf files (3 of them) ... you can then deleted the ms_.nbf so that only the CORE ROM and RADIO is updated, and keep all O2 EXTENDED_ROM content untouch.
You can also use the same method to upgrade to Chinese ...
somesex
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I know that, and I did unzip them beforce upgrade.
The problem is I don't know how to get a CHINESE ROM in NBF format...
Hi guys,
I did the update to rom 1.60 and it is great. I have an Imate Pocet PC. the new rom is excellent but with one sad thing and that is if the device goes in standby mode the GPRS connection if you are connected to the internet goes off as well :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: i there a fix to this.
Thanks,
Gilbert
[email protected]
Re: Some interesting things on the T-Mboile 1.60 update soft
killercheung said:
somesex said:
Hi Killercheung,
You've missed out something ... the EXE file can be unzipped (using Winrar) ... you will then see the same upgrade.exe files, nbf files (3 of them) ... you can then deleted the ms_.nbf so that only the CORE ROM and RADIO is updated, and keep all O2 EXTENDED_ROM content untouch.
You can also use the same method to upgrade to Chinese ...
somesex
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I know that, and I did unzip them beforce upgrade.
The problem is I don't know how to get a CHINESE ROM in NBF format...
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For NBF, you can use XDAtools to capture the Chinese ROM, I did once with the English ROM and the file size is exactly the same as the one in 1.60 update. So there should have no missing bytes in the saved file.
For the EXTENDED_ROM, no idea how to save in NBF format ..
I have installed the update but TomTom doesnt see the serial ports 4/5.
@axbl
Hi, What do you think about the update? It´s mutch better than before?
You say "TomTom doesnt see the serial ports 4/5."
Have you installd Towa solution?
Regards
JoseF
Gilbert said:
one sad thing and that is if the device goes in standby mode the GPRS connection if you are connected to the internet goes off as well
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yikes...... did that happen on the old rom as well or did gprs stay connected on the original rom?
I hate the way gprs disconnects on devices.. it's supposed to be always on, and I'd really prefer if it stayed on during suspend etc so that MSN could stay connected, notifying me when I got a message....
Email checking likewise, I'd prefer gprs remained always connected and it'd check email in the background whether off or on, notifying me when it got a new mail.
I can't check the behaviour of my xda II since Im on "roaming" at the moment in another country so no gprs
but can anyone say for sure which way the old vs new rom work in this regard?
I did some research on the upgrade process, and fileformats:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~itsme/projects/xda/xdaii-update-format.html
XDA developer Itsme said:
I did some research on the upgrade process, and fileformats:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~itsme/projects/xda/xdaii-update-format.html
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I get an error 403 forbidden when I try this link.. odd thing is it was working for me earlier..
-arebelspy
oeps. fixed now.
Earlier, I installed unofficial T-Mobile 1.6 rom on my i-mate. I just recenlty tried installing the official i-mate update and there is a country code. I don't have the old rom to revert to. Can anyone help. I know I would have to at the least get a copy of the old rom and then install it into the i-mate. Again, since I don't have a backup of the old one, I would need info on how to get one first.
The T-Mobile unofficial one works fine. I just wanted to go back to always on gprs etc. that the i-mate update has. If not, I guess I will have to wait until the rom kitchen is up and running for this unit. :lol:
Re: Official i-mate rom won't install after installing t-mob
jonburge said:
Earlier, I installed unofficial T-Mobile 1.6 rom on my i-mate. I just recenlty tried installing the official i-mate update and there is a country code. I don't have the old rom to revert to. Can anyone help. I know I would have to at the least get a copy of the old rom and then install it into the i-mate. Again, since I don't have a backup of the old one, I would need info on how to get one first.
The T-Mobile unofficial one works fine. I just wanted to go back to always on gprs etc. that the i-mate update has. If not, I guess I will have to wait until the rom kitchen is up and running for this unit. :lol:
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I think you better try it using bootloader way, because t-mobile protect it's update, it happen in XDAI if you update your XDA to 4.16 and you want to go back to 4.11 then you have to update it using bootloader to be able to go back from the previous one 4.11 8) hope this help you...opps correction please there is no bootloader on XDA II, there is bootloader but in different way, I think if you copy your old nbf to sd using xdatools and go to bootloader by using power+anydirection+ reset it will ask to download the nbf to you device... hmmm if this doesn't work you have to look for another way.
T-Mobile 1.60 BUGGY Rom - Want to go back to iMate ROM
Folks,
I'm in the same position - Can someone please outline the success they've had going back from the T-Mobile 1.60 ROM to Imate ROM 1.5283??
Any thoughts would be great... (I'm guessing the boot loader using an SD card may work but would love to hear of any new tricks that people have learned on this
Cheers
Andy
I'll try to help.
Where can the ROM be downloaded, so I can have a look at it.
Jos
T-Mobile Back to iMate ROM
Thanks
I've uploaded the new iMate ROM image to:
http://www.c1au.com/iMatePDAROMS/ruu15283.zip
The somewhat flakey T-Mobile 1.6.006 ROM (which I'm trying to get away from is at
http://www.c1au.com/iMatePDAROMS/TMobile160.zip
Of course, with the different operator / country codes, it's not just a matter of running the .EXE - It'll need to involve the boot loader of a little hex editing of the header, I'm guessing (just guessing?!)
The new iMate ROM is meant to be the best bet around at the moment and my device is an iMate in the first place. The only reason why I installed the T-Mobile one was to get the Bluetooth GPS fix (which works well) - BUT so many other things aren't as stable!!
The new iMate ROM is meant to have the BT GPS fix as well.
Any help, much appreciated!
Cheers
Andy
Re: T-Mobile Back to iMate ROM
acurtis007 said:
Thanks
Of course, with the different operator / country codes, it's not just a matter of running the .EXE - It'll need to involve the boot loader of a little hex editing of the header, I'm guessing (just guessing?!)
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That's correct, you need to mod it.
I'll make a procedure for it.
Jos
THANKS!
You're a champion!
Thanks very much..
It sounds like there's a few people that'll thank you!
The other posts on the subject aren't too clear at this point - So it'll be great to clear up the issue for the iMate / XDA II.
All the best - Have a great weekend.
Andy
OK, made some time to create a batch file to upgrade.
Works only for upgrade from T-Mobile 1.60.06 NL to I-mate 1.53.82.
1. Download the ROM image ruu15283.zip from the site in this posting
2. Unzip the file with Winzip
3. You now get a file called ruu15283wwwe_cdl.exe
3. Extract this file with Winzip to a new folder
4. Extract the attached file to the same folder
5. Start the conversion and upgrade by double-clicking convert.bat
Since I'm out till Sunday, I can't check my mail to respond to problems.
Enjoy!
Can the first person brave enough to try this please confirm success.
IT WORKS!!
Jes - You're a scholar and a gentleman!!
And a *(&(&( good programmer
IT WORKED!
Thanks a million!
Let me know how to send you virtual beers or whatever
(or if you need a hand with anything - Please let me know!)
Cheers
Andy
Nah, I'm not a good programmer, I just know how to write bachfiles and how to combine things to get the disered result.
Thanks has to go to Isme. He knows a lot about the internal working of the XDA II, the ROMS and the bootloader process.
He wrote the great tool used to change the file headers, so you can update your machine with a ROM of a different brand.
He's a good programmer!
If somebody needs a mod to upgrade from another ROM version, please let me know.
And if you want to do something back, please donate to the people who keep this nice forum up and running.
It worked. For those who want to get back onto the official path from unofficial t-mobile this is an automated way to do it. Thanks...Jon
Backing Up XDA2 ROM+CE
I'm a new XDA2 iMate user, want to back up my ROM+CE before I screw things up. I did this on my XDA1 (power + software reset, then press contact button I think). Anyway, I always had my ROM+CE backed up to a 64M SD card ... just in case.
I've searched these forums for such a procedure for XDA2 ... no luck.
What is the process, if any, to backup the XDA2's ROM+CE image to SD card?
Appreciate any help,
Craig
I think it's possible with the xda2dmp tool, but you better ask Itsme, he wrote it.
You can find it on this site: http://www.xs4all.nl/~itsme/projects/xda/xda-ii.html
PHoto contacts wont work
I have an imate and i just upgraded it with the new rom, but now i have a problem that the photo contacts wont work... Is there a way i can downgrade to an older version of rom. I use to rely alot on the photo contacts.. anyone else have the same problem?? thank you
Installing i-mate ROM after T-Mobile's
Gentlemen ,
I did the same (install T-mobile ROM on an imate ) and I want to install the imate ROM update. I am not sure about the T-mobile ROM , but when I boot it displays the following :
R 1.06.01
G 1337.16
D 1.60.00WWE
Kindly advsie if the above mentioned patch work in my case .
Appreciate you kind advice !
Thanks!
Should work.
Just try it out. If it's not ok, you get country error when you try to upgrade.
Jos
Hi Jos ,
I tried it and it WORKS!!!!!!!!!! You are a brilliant guy !!!
I owe you one!!
My friend wants to install the T-Mobile Update because the windows CE version on the T-mobile ROM is newer than that of the imate. Any magic patches that can be done.
Note -> Please tell me of how can I be of any help to you in return for your support
All the best
If you want to do something back, please donate to this forum to keep it up and running without advertisements or banners (just click Donate Money on top of this page).
This is how to upgrade:
Works only for upgrade from i-mate to T-Mobile 1.60.06 NL.
1. Download the T-Mobile ROM image from http://www.xda-developers.com/incoming/rom160wwe/
2. Extract this file with Winzip to a new folder
3. Extract the attached file to the same folder
4. Start the conversion and upgrade by double-clicking convert.bat
Let me know if it works.
Grtz,
Jos
Difference between i-mate 1.52.00WWE ROM and i-mate 1.53.82
Can anybody outline the differences between the 1.52.00 and the 1.53.82 official i-mate ROMs?
I'm trying to ascertain whether I have sufficient incentive to upgrade (given the "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" mentality I subscribe to in my old age!).
Sufficient incentive might be;
:arrow: Faster GPRS
:arrow: Improved battery life
:arrow: Improved all-round performance.
Thanks guys.
Codenix
Just upgraded to i-mate from much-loved XDA!
Hi, I own the QTEK 2020 and a couple of months ago updated it with the dangard rom update. Now it seems there is a new update in the form of the WM2003SE and I need to know if I cn get one for my phone as I dont have an XDA2, imate, himalaya or any such device but a QTEK 2020!
I want it too
When you can find one, please let me know, because I'm in searching of one too :roll:
i have heard nothing about any 2003SE for xda update
where did you hear that ?
Microsoft Creates New Opportunity for Windows Mobile Developers With New Software Platforms and Tools
Microsoft unveils the new Windows Mobile™ 2003 Second Edition software focused on enabling unprecedented hardware innnovation and application development.
ANother question.
I saw this update on the front page:
A sotware update was released for the iMate (Himalaya / XDA II). It's a ROM update which holds a new OS ROM and not just a new extended ROM.
i.e. Imate 1.66
if i install this upgrade on my qtek 2020 would it work and will my phone still retain its triband capabilities?
you can view at this thread
http://www.wda.com.cn/viewthread.php?tid=119717&fpage=1
(it is chinese)
here some screen shot
when does O2 will released W2K3 SE ?
or We need to wait from T-mobile or i-mate.
So I must learn chinese... right? Or these european guys will finally have their own version of SE for Himalaya?
this sounds promising.
If we can assume that all roms are based on 1 original (and I can't be;ieve that one is chinese . . .) there MUST be a Himalaya WM2003SE WWE rom around . . .
Now if only someone can post that one . . .
I think like you edsub.
It mean that all XDA2 can use WM2003 SE.
but from other post, most of people said O2 won't release W2K3 SE
may from business trick for sell other device such as XDAIIs or XDA III
is anyone here able to get that ROM from:
ftp://220.163.6.130
user: linyapda
pass: linyadown
?
I'm having troubles downloading it...
THANX
buzz
I can try tonight (GMT +1)
THANX edsub
i'm already @ 5.09MB out of 120.13 Mb however speed is 3KB/s and connection is breaking all the time... (
Could you paste the full URL for the file?
I can then add it to GetRight and it'll just sit there trying to get it for me
ftp://linyapda:[email protected]/696µÚ¶þ°æROM/69602Ver.BIN
well, some chinese characters in the path... I hope it doesn't matter...
buzz
Cheers!
I'm giving it a try right now... hope it works!
The device like xda II, mda II, qtek version, dpod version and other has the same hardware. If that one can use SE perfectly, surely we SE can also be use to XDA II.... i know 1 member here who uses SE he showed it to me in the pix and its tru... but he dont want to share cuz he promised to Microsoft that he will not distribute it...
NinjaDonkey said:
Cheers!
I'm giving it a try right now... hope it works!
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Any news :?: :shock:
you can view at this thread
http://www.wda.com.cn/viewthread.php?tid=119717&fpage=1
(it is chinese)
here some screen shot
when does O2 will released W2K3 SE ?
or We need to wait from T-mobile or i-mate.
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Sorry, but if you name it Dopod 696 it's XDAII with Windows 2003 (not SE) you can see this link http://www.dopod.com/gb/product/696_1.jsp
and this is 696i (T-Mobile design) http://www.dopod.com/gb/product/696i_1.jsp
I think there's confusing on this matter!
Any ideas!
ammar: Nope, I've not even been able to connect to the FTP server yet.
hungdu: Those two devices are exactly the same - just different cases. ie, they're both "XDA II"'s.
Neither of them say they run WM2003SE tho.
hey guys,
check the photos of XDAII running SE, on those chinese web pages..
@buzz:
The folder /696µÚ¶þ°æROM
on the 220.163.6.130 ftp server does not contain anything!!
Gues someone was kind enought to delete it (it it was there) . . .
Any more sources?
some one confirmed that he used WM2003SE on his XDA2 :!:
read about it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=69314#69314
Have anyone downloaded the update from chineese FTP?
I'm downloading the W2K3SE now.
Will post it once complete. 8)
Under the folder in the ftp server, i found 2 files, one is 96902Ver.bin and SE Extended rom.rar .... will post when finish downloading too.
Anyone know what file to copy WMP10 from ROM 2.20CHS to ROM 2.06...?
so our 2.06 or 2.02 ROM can support WMP 10
Thanks
Ronald_Chandra said:
Anyone know what file to copy WMP10 from ROM 2.20CHS to ROM 2.06...?
so our 2.06 or 2.02 ROM can support WMP 10
Thanks
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first you need to find the installation file
then only you can do that
...or you have to dig the CHS registry.
There you can find, what exactly is the exe named, which dlls it needs, what are the file registrations for it and so on...
I did a bit, and it looks that it's so much work, that it just doesn't make sense...
buzz
yes i know that we have to find the installation files :evil:
i mean can you show me step by step to instal it on our 2.06 ROM, or you know what files to copy???? :roll:
I found that WMP10 is build in/come with CHS version
so ... is abit hard to find the whole installation files out
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/player/windowsmobile/default.aspx
News About it
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Windows Media Player 10 Mobile will be available on many new Windows Mobile 2003 Second Edition–based Smartphones and Pocket PCs over the next few months. These devices will come in various shapes and sizes designed to fit your lifestyle and budget. Windows Media Player 10 Mobile is not available for download from Microsoft.
The following devices have Windows Media Player 10 Mobile installed:
Audiovox SMT-5600 from AT&T Wireless
Dell Axim X50
The following devices are upgradeable to Windows Media Player 10 Mobile:
HP iPAQ rx 3000 series
Dell Axim X30
ok thanks for the info...
a clear answer like this that i want :wink:
might want to try to see is
HP iPAQ rx 3000 series
Dell Axim X30
come in application form , e.g *.cab to install or something
or try they Offical Site to see
got anywhere can download a patch or something
---------------------------------------------------------------
IPAQ
Adds Windows Media Player 10 Mobile for Pocket PC.
Updates ROM to Bluetooth driver build 2600.
Updates ROM to iPAQ Mobile Media version 2.0.1.87.
DELL
Upgrade your PDA with new Windows Mobile Second Edition ver 4.21.1088(build 14260.2.0.2)
Upgrade your PDA Widows Media Player with Windows Media Player 10 Mobile. (build 14235)
Enhance wireless stability. (The enhancement is only for 624MHz & 312MHz integrated Wi-Fi, Bluetooth model)
Enhance SDIO bus driver.
no luck
try to download both ROM upgrade from them
come in
P16A_ALL_C_10070400EN.IMG
P16A_ALL_N_10070400EN.IMG
&
D2B10106uo.nbf
dunno how to open it
WORLD
You guys really want the world don't ya?
First it was ROM updates were comming in too slow. Then there was the SE upgrade. Now WMP10?
No time for rest. Here we go again.
I too would like to get wmp10 on this upgraded version of wm2003se.
I am willing to do as much testing as required.
Camera Streeming
Hello!
Sorry for my ignorance, i update my XDAII with W2003Se (builtd14132)
And not came with CameraRC10_Streaming_reg.CAB
How can extract CameraRC10_Streaming_reg.CAB from WM2003SE_AU_v2.zip
And which the real use to Camera Streaming?
Sorry for my english
Thanks in advance
Bye
nicus