Common Pitfalls and recommended steps for ROM Upgrades - MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development

A friend of mine purchased an i-mate with ROM ver. 1.66. After seeing what I went through with mine (radio stack upgrade problems. See my posts elsewhere on this forum), he is terrified to upgrade to 1.72, even though he knows that 1.66 is buggy. Should he upgrade? If so, what are the foolproof steps towards success?
I propose a sticky: It would be great if the ones on this forum with extensive ROM flashing experience list common pitfalls and recommend steps going beyond the standard club i-mate instructions (for i-mate and its variants). I will start with a list that is in addition to the standard instructions. Feel free to add to the following:
* Always use a PC with either Win 2000. Several forums listed that most problems with ROM flashing stem from the use of PC's with Win 98 or ME.
* Make sure you don't use a USB hub. Better yet, make sure that the only USB device connected is your i-mate
* Make sure you close all other Windows programs, especially antivirus and firewall
* For best results, use official releases of ROM upgrades. Others may be great, but also maybe risky
Questions:
* From a functioning i-mate, is it necessary to start in bootloader mode?
* Is it best to have the SIM card out?
* Is power to cradle necessary?
I told my friend to wait until the forum shows consensus on the procedure steps.
KJ

You can leave the sim card in and the cradle does not need the charger.
You can start in normal mode instead of bootloader.
If you have a problem and you get only the bootloader screen (serial v1.0X) then there is still a chance to slavage it.
Connect it back to the cradle. if serial turns in USB, just launch the uodate again (activesync wont recognize it , but the update willr un.

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Common Pitfalls and recommended steps for ROM Upgrades

A friend of mine purchased an i-mate with ROM ver. 1.66. After seeing what I went through with mine (radio stack upgrade problems. See my posts elsewhere on this forum), he is terrified to upgrade to 1.72, even though he knows that 1.66 is buggy. Should he upgrade? If so, what are the foolproof steps towards success?
I propose a sticky: It would be great if the ones on this forum with extensive ROM flashing experience list common pitfalls and recommend steps going beyond the standard club i-mate instructions (for i-mate and its variants). I will start with a list that is in addition to the standard instructions. Feel free to add to the following:
* Always use a PC with either Win 2000. Several forums listed that most problems with ROM flashing stem from the use of PC's with Win 98 or ME.
* Make sure you don't use a USB hub. Better yet, make sure that the only USB device connected is your i-mate
* Make sure you close all other Windows programs, especially antivirus and firewall
* For best results, use official releases of ROM upgrades. Others may be great, but also maybe risky
Questions:
* From a functioning i-mate, is it necessary to start in bootloader mode?
* Is it best to have the SIM card out?
* Is power to cradle necessary?
I told my friend to wait until the forum shows consensus on the procedure steps.
KJ

Unable to Flash

Hi all,
New to this forum. Actually, new to the device (so PLEASE be gentle ). I have an AT&T/Cingular 8525 I got two nights ago (14 Aug) and am trying to upgrade to the latest release version for Cingular. I've downloaded and installed the RUU file on my desktop computer.
When I execute it, I go through the steps as indicated, and when it gets to the point where it starts to push the update - my ActiveSync on the desktop shuts down. I then get the failure message and am left in the cold.
My device came with:
ROM 1.34.502.1
Radio: 1.16.00.00
Protocol: 32.53.7018.01H
I'm running ActiveSync v4.5.0 build 5096.
What am I doing wrong?
Thanks,
Joe
edit: I've been reading the upgrading notes on this forum, and haven't seen anywhere the problem with ActiveSync closing down. Also, didn't find this forum until AFTER I started looking at ROM upgrades. I'm surfing around now so I don't brick my phone.
What OS you running? Vista? XP?
Keep reading as you are doing now - good work.
Desktop OS is XP MCE
My desktop is running XP Media Center Edition, and I'm up to date with the service packs and other High Priority and Optional updates (via Windows Update).
I am able to ActiveSync with the Desktop without a problem. It remains connected and data is passed. I can browse the device.
When I try to execute the RUU file, I hear the "device disconnect" sound, the ActiveSync window closes (I've been leaving it open on the desktop), and then the upgrade times out.
WTFO.
I continue to read, but may end up keeping the unit on the original software (not my optimal solution). Anyone else experienced the ActiveSync termination problem on the desktop?
Thanks again,
Joe
Well, have you upgraded anything? Like upgrading the SPL to HardSPL?
What I would do, is this:
1. Read Mrvanx.org upgrade guides.
2. Put HardSPL on there. (If you have the disconnect problem, just put the phone in Bottloader mode, then plug into USB, then run the RUU.)
3. Upgrade to whatever ROM. Try the normal way, if that doesn't work, try the "start in bootloader" method described above or try the SD Crd flashing method.
I personally, take apart any ROM that I want to flash (use winrar to extract the exe and dutty's good nbh tool to extract and rebuild the nbh) and use the most recent custom_ruu and flash that way. I never use whatever RUU is packaged with the ROM. I don't have communication problems. Give it a try, don't give up. If you need to find stuff, try the google search link in my signature - the best way to find stuff on the forums.
Todd,
Thanks for the replies. I just downloaded HardSPL, and will try that when I get home tonight. I also downloaded "Hermes_WM6_WWE_vp3G_v3[1].0.0_ATT.rar" to upgrade to WM6.
To answer your question, no, I haven't upgraded anything (yet). I have been able to put a couple of programs on the device (Battery Pack Pro, Photo Contacts Pro, and Conversions in Hand), and they all work fine.
I'll try the bootloader method if I can't get ActiveSync to make it happen.
Stand by for my (hopefully happy face) post(s) tonight.
Joe
Well, I'm wearing my smiley face 'cause I was able to successfully flash an update into my 8525 last night. While I didn't do it on this machine (my desktop - didn't try), I was able to install Hard-SPL and upgraded to WM6 from a different computer.
I am still running radio version 1.16.00.00, but will try to update that over the weekend. I figued that since I haven't BRICKED this thing yet, I'll keep working on it until I do .
Thanks to all (especially the over 970 postings in the Hard-SPL thread - I read through ALL the pages). This is a great site and I'm looking forward to customizing the H3LL out of this phone.
Joe
marinerjoe said:
Thanks to all (especially the over 970 postings in the Hard-SPL thread - I read through ALL the pages).
Joe
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Reading through the pages is why you are wearing your smiley.
Glad you got it going. Since you are on AT&T, I would suggest you start with Radio 1.50 or 1.48. Those are the ones I have had the greatest success with. 1.48 was shipped with a Cingular update and 1.50 is the newest. I don't know what carrier it shipped with, but it has worked well for me and others I know who are on Cingular.
Good luck and have fun!
todd_jg said:
Since you are on AT&T, I would suggest you start with Radio 1.50 or 1.48. Those are the ones I have had the greatest success with. 1.48 was shipped with a Cingular update and 1.50 is the newest. I don't know what carrier it shipped with, but it has worked well for me and others I know who are on Cingular.
Good luck and have fun!
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Thanks. I'm thinking about 1.48 as I've seen a number of folks with it in their profile. Since I loaded Hard-SPL on the device, I should be able to safely update just the radio, right?
Any benefits to going all the way to 1.50?
Joe
Edit: I upgraded to radio 1.48 (using MrVanx guides). The step-by-step procedure was absolutely OUTSTANDING! I have tested the phone, and IT WORKS! Only difference is now I connect via Edge (shows an E), before it was GPRS(?) (it showed a G). Does it really matter which connection method it uses?
marinerjoe said:
Thanks. I'm thinking about 1.48 as I've seen a number of folks with it in their profile. Since I loaded Hard-SPL on the device, I should be able to safely update just the radio, right?
Any benefits to going all the way to 1.50?
Joe
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Yeah, you can do just the radio. No problems.
Regarding 1.50, I personally get better battery life. Reception seems about equal to 1.48 for me. Performance is highly dependent on your geographic specifics. Personally, I would put 1.50 on for a few days, then try 1.48 for a few days. Then you can pick whichever one works best for you.
Thanks. As you can see from my edit, I successfully updated to 1.48. I'll use this as my baseline and then see about going to 1.50 in a bit.
Thanks again,
Joe
marinerjoe said:
Well, I'm wearing my smiley face 'cause I was able to successfully flash an update into my 8525 last night. While I didn't do it on this machine (my desktop - didn't try), I was able to install Hard-SPL and upgraded to WM6 from a different computer.
I am still running radio version 1.16.00.00, but will try to update that over the weekend. I figued that since I haven't BRICKED this thing yet, I'll keep working on it until I do .
Thanks to all (especially the over 970 postings in the Hard-SPL thread - I read through ALL the pages). This is a great site and I'm looking forward to customizing the H3LL out of this phone.
Joe
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Hello marinerjoe,
I have tried to upgrade my friend's Hermes and experienced the same problem. Instead, I can flash Hard-SPL on it but fail at upgrade (being kicked out by the Activesync).
May I know if you just complete the upgrade with a different computer with nothing else? Could you advise me your path of success?
t1tough said:
Hello marinerjoe,
I have tried to upgrade my friend's Hermes and experienced the same problem. Instead, I can flash Hard-SPL on it but fail at upgrade (being kicked out by the Activesync).
May I know if you just complete the upgrade with a different computer with nothing else? Could you advise me your path of success?
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I did not attempt to do the upgrade from the same desktop machine upon which I had my problems. Instead of trying some troubleshooting suggestions I read on this site, I took the easy way out . I went to a different machine that I had administrator priveleges on, and did it there.
The difference between the two machines? My desktop has Symantec Antivirus and the Symantec firewall. The other machine (that worked) doesn't have the firewall. There are other differences also, but I'm thinking the firewall might have been a contributing factor.
Others on this board with WAY MUCH more experience with me can tell you if I'm full of SH!T or not (there are some here who aren't shy or afraid to FLAME SPRAY those less ed-ju-ma-cated).
Sorry I couldn't be of more help. GOOD LUCK!
Joe

So Hopelessly Lost!

Even after reading this forum all nite, I am still soooo confused, maybe too much new info in m'head. At any rate, I am trying to UG from WM5 to WM6 and am having a heck of a rough time. Everything goes good until it actually starts the process, at which time I get the 260 Connection Error. After plenty of research on here, I decided to try to "flash" the ROM, to no avail, for nothing happened. I can get into bootloader mode but then nothing else happens (perhaps I'm not waiting long enough? How long should I wait?) and I never see the screen pictured here - http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_SDCardFlashing - so I just give up and reset. I am currently downloading the HardSPL utility so I can try flashing after the IPL and SPL ugrades. But I do have some questions still --
(1) Does my phone need to be "unlocked" to do this and how can I tell if it is or isn't?
(2) Can I just use the ROM that I downloaded from the HTC site or must I use one found somewhere on this forum?
Any other advice? All will be appreciated. Thanx.
Oh, yeah -- I'm working with a Cingular 8525 Hermes [HERM100 model number] Pocket PC. It's specs are:
ROM version 2.15.502.3
ROM date 04/09/07
Radio version 1.40.30.00
IPL 1.03
SPL 1.11
Have you read this http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_UpgradeForBeginners ?
Re:
Yes, I have, plus all the links branched from there. After about 3 hours of reading, I felt ready to try flashing, but it didn't work. The HardSPL utility is done downloading, so when I get home I'll try that and hope I finally get a successful upgrade. If not, I'll be back to the forums. Thanx!
What ROM are you upgrading to? The official AT&T ROM? I'd try that first if you're not already.
BDsBabyGirl said:
Even after reading this forum all nite, I am still soooo confused, maybe too much new info in m'head. At any rate, I am trying to UG from WM5 to WM6 and am having a heck of a rough time. Everything goes good until it actually starts the process, at which time I get the 260 Connection Error. After plenty of research on here, I decided to try to "flash" the ROM, to no avail, for nothing happened. I can get into bootloader mode but then nothing else happens (perhaps I'm not waiting long enough? How long should I wait?) and I never see the screen pictured here - http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_SDCardFlashing - so I just give up and reset. I am currently downloading the HardSPL utility so I can try flashing after the IPL and SPL ugrades. But I do have some questions still --
(1) Does my phone need to be "unlocked" to do this and how can I tell if it is or isn't?
(2) Can I just use the ROM that I downloaded from the HTC site or must I use one found somewhere on this forum?
Any other advice? All will be appreciated. Thanx.
Oh, yeah -- I'm working with a Cingular 8525 Hermes [HERM100 model number] Pocket PC. It's specs are:
ROM version 2.15.502.3
ROM date 04/09/07
Radio version 1.40.30.00
IPL 1.03
SPL 1.11
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What operating system are you using? If its Vista you MUST use Mr. Vanx's guide to get past the connection problem. The standard Vista HTC driver is wrong when we want to flash rom's in bootloader mode and vista WMDC. Get it here:
MR VANX's VISTA GUIDE
Hard SPL is great after that. Just remember you warranty may be void if you have to go to AT&T for repairs and the see that bootloader. You shouldn't need Hard SPL to flash the standard AT&T rom or VP3G's or other AT&T based ROM's, but better safe than sorry.
Be sure to close EVERYTHING in the taskbar! Don't start any programs, allow any updates to mess around with the computer while its flashing..In fact, I disable my AV program and internet connection totally when I flash ROMS. (My Kaspersky started updating and virus scanning during my 1st flash..sucker froze and freaked me out!)
Once I dealt with unlocking and connection issues, I flashed the standard AT&T ROM, performed a hard reset immediately and then connected via WMDC and synced everything. I tested it for a few hours then decided to flash VP3G's excellent AT&T based ROM v3.62.3..I like to do a hard reset immediately after flashing to burn everything in...I've seen others in this forum do the same.
Another ROM I've found fun is S64's(Starbase64) 3.62 WWE v9 - It's not AT&T based but you can get WPBEAR's Config files to set your Medianet and proxy. There are other At&T settings CABs out there like Dr. Puttinghams. S64 ROM also includes Advanced Config 1.1 to set your keyboard to Cingular mapping.
Good Luck!
re:
My desktop PC is running Windows XP...
After trying the HardSPL method - which upgraded perfectly - I continue to have the above-mentioned problems; 260 Connection Error and inability to move beyond the tri-color screen to the one pictured on the page which instructs how to flash via SD card.
Thanx for the list of ROMs I can try. For the record, I have been using the "official" one I downloaded from the HTC website. *sigh* I guess I'll next look for the tutorial I saw somewhere around here on how to upgrade from the tricolor screen [or something like that, I think it was], as well as your advice.
But I do have another question -- how do I format the SD card? The tutorial I used on flashing with it mentioned formatting so I'll retry it with the card newly formatted (I didn't because it said I could just delete everything off the card OR format it).
I'll let you know how it goes...
Ahhh...Sorry for your troubles...I didn't have luck catching an upgrade from the SD Card method on my 8525 either.
I know it seems a bit much but, is your active sync working correctly? Upgraded to 4.5 and all that? Can you sync and Backup all your data then try uninstal, reboot, re-installing AS?
I wonder what would happen if one tried Mr Vanx's instructions on a Win XP box?
I also had heard somewhere about messing around with when Active sync is started. Also as a last ditch, maybe try this from the HTC Wiki:
http://www.htcwiki.com/thread/667087/ActiveSync+and+Rom+8525?t=anon
Good luck
BDsBabyGirl said:
My desktop PC is running Windows XP...
After trying the HardSPL method - which upgraded perfectly - I continue to have the above-mentioned problems; 260 Connection Error and inability to move beyond the tri-color screen to the one pictured on the page which instructs how to flash via SD card.
Thanx for the list of ROMs I can try. For the record, I have been using the "official" one I downloaded from the HTC website. *sigh* I guess I'll next look for the tutorial I saw somewhere around here on how to upgrade from the tricolor screen [or something like that, I think it was], as well as your advice.
But I do have another question -- how do I format the SD card? The tutorial I used on flashing with it mentioned formatting so I'll retry it with the card newly formatted (I didn't because it said I could just delete everything off the card OR format it).
I'll let you know how it goes...
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Just another tip... Try a different usb port. I've found that sometimes certain usb ports behave differently during the upgrade procedures. So, far I've upgraded three 8525's on Win XP and only one gave me the problem you've described and connecting the sync cable in another port corrected the problem.
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shihayadreamer said:
...I also had heard somewhere about messing around with when Active sync is started. Also as a last ditch, maybe try this from the HTC Wiki:
http://www.htcwiki.com/thread/667087/ActiveSync+and+Rom+8525?t=anon
Good luck
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OMG! SHIHAYADREAMER! That was JUST the TICKET! I read it and realized that I'd been doing it right all along, I just didn't realize I was! THIS time, I hooked up my cable at the very beginning and let it go. Before, I'd started waiting to hook it up until the instructions asked if I had because I'd gotten to the tricolored screen (the bootloader?) the 1st time and figured I did something wrong. Thanx to that forum, I returned to what I did the very first time and got victory! *falls down sobbing and weeping with joy* I wasted 25 hours because of fear! OMG! *dances around, singing* I've got WM6! I've got WM6!
I know that being reminded to turn off my firewall and stop all the programs in the taskbar played a big role, as well. But I just give a big "Thanx" (on Thanksgiving! *LOL*) to everyone who answered this board because you all helped me so very very much.

110% non-brick upgrade ?

Is there anyway that is 100% safe to upgrade or is there always some amount of risk that a unit will end up a brick ?
I've read so much here and on other forums my head spins lol. I was like all set to just do it and then I got the phone lol, now I'm getting cold feet because I read so many people have bricked their phone.
Also can the SPL be done by SD card or does it need to be done with a computer ? I know some will say do a search, I have and man there are so many choices is there just a page or link with a simple idiots guide ?
Its better to do all the upgrading through a PC. Its more safer than SD Card upgrade.
Simple way
Do the HardSPL first then do anything you want. Try to look for Mr.Vanx guides
I agree with beastfellow, install hardspl first then you can flash any hermes rom you like. I have flashed my heremes over 50 times,i even flashed it 12 times in a week as long as the roms you have have no radio or spl in them then they should be fine to flash. Just make sure they hermes roms you are flashing.
hardspl can be downloaded from here http://pof.eslack.org/hermes-unlocker/
guide to how to do it is located here
http://www.mrvanx.org/thg/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=16&Itemid=26
other guides and there links can be found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299462
anyway my advice is to go for it. I have only ever bricked one device and that was a wallaby back in the day.
good luck and make sure you read EVERYTHING ,twice if you have to
Dalork,
I felt exactly the same way as you a couple of years back. What I did was to read every scrap of info I could find, constantly assessing the risk, while looking for a stable rom.
Key criteria for my rom search was what other people were saying about that rom (good and bad) and the developers willingness to resolve issues. In the first instance this led me to Schaps and his brilliant roms. For my rom history see my signature.
Read the following threads very carefully, then read the threads on one rom from Schaps and, say, a rom from Kin0ken. Look at the 6.0 roms, NOT the 6.1 versions...
http://www.mrvanx.org/thg/
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes.
Also use these search tools:
wiki - http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q= +site:http://wiki.xda-developers.com&hl=en&lr=&as_qdr=all
forum - http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=+site:http://forum.xda-developers.com&hl=en&lr=&as_qdr=all
entire xda site -
http://www.google.com/search?q=site:xda-developers.com
Once you are fully genned up then prepare your kit carefully, e.g. make sure your phone batttery is fully charged, then upgrade your rom as you logically and carefully work your way step by step through Mr Vanx guides.
First time I upgraded I had the Mr Vanxguide open on my desktop PC whilst I ran the rom upgrade off my laptop. Using the laptop meant that in the unlikely event of a power cut (does happen where I live) I wouldn't instantly end up with a bricked phone.
Good luck and PM me if you need help/any further info.
Cheers
WB
Thanks for the help folks, I'm just worried I'll brick it as I have a friend who tried this and his is a nice paper-weight now.
I must be getting confused as I thought doing the flashing direct frm the SD card was the safest ?
Anyways, I'm not certain at this point which is the best or safest ROM to go with. I was going to do the Hard-SPL-V7 (2.10 Olipro) and was think of the Schaps_WM6Pro_Hermes_4.31_WWE_Full.
ATM the unit has ROM 1.30.707.4 8/22/06 and Radio 1.20.31.10
I don't think it's ever been flashed as yet as the bootloader is IPL-1.01-SPL-1.06
ask your mate if i can have his paper weight i have a nice rock to swap for it
scousemartin, lol I had already asked him that before I bought my dopod as I was hoping to come here and find out if it could be fixed.
Another point, after upgrading the phone to say WM6 or whatever can you still recover/reload the original factory WM5 system/set-up ?
I guess I'm in-fact quite happy with how the phone is already I just really want to be able to use a 8GB Micro SDHC card so I can load more programs and music. I don't know if any of the radio ROM's will improve my signal as such but battery life seems to be ok already. Used the phone quite a bit today, started off with 80% battery and finished off tonight with still having 70%.
Then why not search for the wm5/6 sdhc fix instead of potentially bricking your phone. Try this - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=344338
Also, I still reckon, and I believe I'm not alone, that flashing via the sd card is safest....
Direct quote from Wam7's posts -
Flashing your ROM without HARDSPL is like going to a South African brothel without any condoms...
and not using a MicroSD Card is like walking into a prison, dropping your pants and yelling "come and get it boys!"
I rest my case...
ultramag69 said:
Then why not search for the wm5/6 sdhc fix instead of potentially bricking your phone. Try this - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=344338
Also, I still reckon, and I believe I'm not alone, that flashing via the sd card is safest....
Direct quote from Wam7's posts -
Flashing your ROM without HARDSPL is like going to a South African brothel without any condoms...
and not using a MicroSD Card is like walking into a prison, dropping your pants and yelling "come and get it boys!"
I rest my case...
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Thanks heaps for that, and I agree I did think flashing from a SD card would be safer as there is no risk in USB/sync problems, no cable to bump...etc..etc... But then I'm a total newbie, what I think doesn't always make sense lol.
If I just do the Hard-SPL-V7 and then something like Schaps_WM6Pro_Hermes_4.31_WWE_Full and don't do the radio ROm is there really much chance of bricking the Dopod ?
While I say I'm not bothered with upgrading the OS and everything else, it's mostly because I'm **** scraed of bricking it lol. I guess it would be silly to say I wouldn't like the better features of a decent upgrade, I just have to get my head around it somehow. But I WILL need more space as I really like to put lots of music on it and some games/apps. Hence the SDHC, I'd like 4GB but would love 8GB as I doubt I'd ever run out of room then.
As it is with my current phone I have 3 x 1GB cards which I just swap around and I hate having to do that and I'm always losing/misplacing the damn things.
If you are SERIOUSLY thinking of upgrading, Hard SPL your phone. You can find the thread "Hard SPL or how not to brick your Hermes" in the upgrading section. Its best to do this as it is the safest we thing you can do. It won't prevent a brick but it makes it a lot more fixable. I have never bricked a phone that I couldn't fix (yet) with Hard SPL on it.
Its fairly difficult, I find bricking the hermes when using the sd card method, as long as you make sure you have Hard SPL, Unlock your Hermes(if needed, did this as wasn't sure) and make sure your battery is charged.
Unlock before putting Hard SPL on though as it downgrades the SPL to 1.10 olipro.
Also use Hard SPL ver.7 (should say SPL 2.10 olipro after upgrade) as ver 9 is the developers SPL (says SPL 2.60) and throws up error messages (if done from the pc) after flash.
As for the rom, no-one can say what is best... What is suitable for me may not be for you. If you ask this questiopn on a thread you'll be inundated with "This rom is best..." remarks. Search and you will see.
Hope this shines some light on the subject (forgive me if this seems scattered, too much caffeine and not enough sleep), anyway,
Cheers....
Thanks for the info and it does help/shed light on it. I have read heaps of info about most everything here, maybe more than I should have even to sart off with lol. I would normally not have been so concerned except that I have a friend close by who tried this exact way of flashing and still somehow bricked phone. Though he did say with folks help here he did get the unit working again but the radio never worked again I think he said.
I already downloaded a copy of Hard-SPL-V7 and Schaps_WM6Pro_Hermes_4.31_WWE_Full.
Not certain if this is the right one for me or not but seems alot of people like it and find it stable. I also grabbed this HER_DopodAsia_AUS_1.30.707.4_1.20.31.10_WWE_Ship though I'm not certain if it's any good or not. I haven't grabbed the unlocking file, not sure I need it or not. With flashing the Hard-SPL-V7 by sd card am I right in what I have read that all I need to do is rename the nbh. file and not the RUUWrapper_exe.
I am finding it difficult to get the Dopod to use 3G for web browsing/email though. But someone told me that the original set-up/ROM wasn't much good for the Optus/Virgin 3G network.
Yes you do only have to copy and rename the .nbh file. Don't forget to run the sspl.exe file from the phone however if you upgrade Hard SPL from the sd card. I ran the unlock tool as a precaution. I DID use the pc for this. I also used the pc to install Hard SPL. Hard SPL takes about 2 secs to install so no real trouble there but the unlocker will change your radio rom. I'd probably install the official Telstra rom to get your tradio back to 154.30.10 after unlocking (it changes to 150.00.00). Also, if you need to search for CircAU's roms as they are made for us Aussies and have a little tool that allows automatic setup of MMS/SMS. You just pick which carrier you have and press start.
You might be able to find a cab file for it on the forum. Do a search for"CWW Enterprises Aus Operator Con.cab". This can then be loaded into ANY rom and used to fix your setup for MMS/SMS. Make sure you also run the ARCSoft MMSComposer cab file first...
Cheers...
ultramag69 said:
Yes you do only have to copy and rename the .nbh file. Don't forget to run the sspl.exe file from the phone however if you upgrade Hard SPL from the sd card. I ran the unlock tool as a precaution. I DID use the pc for this. I also used the pc to install Hard SPL. Hard SPL takes about 2 secs to install so no real trouble there but the unlocker will change your radio rom. I'd probably install the official Telstra rom to get your tradio back to 154.30.10 after unlocking (it changes to 150.00.00). Also, if you need to search for CircAU's roms as they are made for us Aussies and have a little tool that allows automatic setup of MMS/SMS. You just pick which carrier you have and press start.
You might be able to find a cab file for it on the forum. Do a search for"CWW Enterprises Aus Operator Con.cab". This can then be loaded into ANY rom and used to fix your setup for MMS/SMS. Make sure you also run the ARCSoft MMSComposer cab file first...
Cheers...
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You got me really confused now lol, I thought I only needed to run the Hard SPL and then whatever ROM I liked (was looking at ones without radio ROM's). Also do you think it would be wsie to flash it with a radio stack for Telstra when I'm using Virgin as it seems Virgin is using the Optus network.
Sorry if I sound daft just the more I read the more confused I'm getting. Also it seems that everyone does have a different opinion on how and what is best. Just want to work out what is best for me before I have a go at bricking my phone lol. I've not found setting up SMS/MMS hard at all. Seeed pretty easy, having most my trouble setting it up for Virgin's 3G access for web browsing. Just can't seem to get it to work, got it set-up for wifi at home no drama but don't really need web access from the phone when I'm at home and have several computers.
Sorry, Information overload...
1. CWW Enterprises Aus Operator Con.cab - this cab file does a quick loading of sms/mms setting on the phone. You can use ANY rom and then setup your messaging with this. First however, install 2.
2. ARCSoft MMSComposer cab - This allows the use of mms on your phone properly. Some roms don't seem to set up your mms properly. If you have this installed then run 1. it will fix it all up.
I believe it should fix up ALL settings (including the 3g ones) as when you flash a rom, no native settings are kept and I've never had trouble using 3g after installing 1. and 2. then running 1. (will be in programs). It will soft reset your phone after setting it up.
Confused...
Really, just find the rom you want, check in settings as some have an auto network wizard to set this up. I just like CWW Enterprises Aus Operator Con.cab as it was made by an Aussie to use here. Its good when you don't have the network setup wizard (lite roms generally don't come with the frills)
Hope this clears it up....(preferably like glass and not like mud)
Cheers...
I am intrested in buying a Hermes, most likely the unbranded HTC tytn that I believe comes all unlocked.
For that one the procedure is the same still, right?
Hard spl install and choose rome you like
I have seen eithe Schaps 6 or the newer 6.1 with diamond stuff in it
So would I have the same procedure. To find the hard spl (not sure which version to install) and then find the rom w/out a radio?
es_bih, yes. Its the same procedure. Instyall Hard SPL ver 7(ver 9 is the developer one. It tends to throw up an error after upgrading via pc, no problem though).
As for the rom, make sure its a hermes rom. Any you find on this forum are for the Hermes BUT if you go to the other forums (herald, kaiser, etc....) the roms will brick your device as it isn't compatible with your device. Cooked roms are good but until you get to know the vagaries of wm6.1 I'd suggest to stick with wm6. Its more stable than wm6.1. Play with that and then when you are confident enough to try, then go for wm6.1.
Most if not all cooked roms come without a radio rom.
Cheers...
Tried doing the Hard-SPL-V7 on Vista x64 computer and get error 260 problems.
Tried on a XP laptop and got a different option. The first screen that comes up after running the RUUWrapper.exe not only give me the choice of "Force SSPL" but also allows me to tick "Is this Hard SPL ? "
In the guides I've been reading it says you should only get the "Force SSPL". So my question is seeing as I have the option of ticking "Is this Hard SPL?" should I ?
Installing Hard SPL? Tick SSPL. After that you can pick either.
Hmmm, can't seem to get it to do it. Sounds so simple I must be missing something somewhere. No matter what I try I stillget the ERROR 260 (update error)

TMobile ROM to HTC ROM change - info Please!

Hi all
I've had a search through the re-developed ROM's and to be perfectly open, I don't understand much about them.
I recently had a plain HTC HD2 and very happy with it for what I use it for, I don't need any fancy add on's and bits etc, just my Co-pilot and keeping my contacts and notes upto date.
That handset was lost and the insurance didn't have any HD2 replacements in stock. The Desire they sent instead has been sold, and I've purchased a T Mobile version of another HD2.
Is it a simple case of downloading and installing the official HTC ROM for the handset and doing a ROM update?
Apologies if this is a simple query etc!
Cheers, Dennis!
no, no no nonono.
assuming you mean a tmobile us model (1024 rom, green send key) then no, if you flash a non tmous stock rom (any stock rom that isn't for the tmous) onto that phone it will die. brick. dead, because of the ..51.. radio they include.
You may get some cooked roms that are on a base of lower than 2.x, but have been tweaked for the 576ram , and they will work on your phone, but its a very risky game to play.
Far better to follow the two rules..,
only ever flash tmous stock roms,
and
cooked roms that SPECIFICALLY say tmous compatible in the title and post 1 of that roms thread..
Hiya
Samsamuel, thanks for the info there. I'll update with more information! I'm technical, but not with smartphones to the level some of you guys here!
I'm in the UK, and it's a UK TMobile handset that I bought. I've already had the handset 'unlocked' so that I can use my O2 SIM, which is working etc.
From the handset
OS Version - 5.2.21889 (21889.5.0.87)
Manila Version - 2.5.20121429.0
ROM version - 1.72.110.4 (86525) WWE
ROM date - 04/02/10
Radio Version - 2.07.51.22_2
Protocol version - 15.32.50.07U
So, would it be ok to update to the normal HTC ROM?
Cheers, Dennis!
Ah ok in that case there is no need to mention that it is a t mobile phone, just confuses the issue.
Yes the regular update will work fine once happy is applied.
Thanks once again SamSamuel,
However, what's meant by 'once happy is applied' ?
Is that one of these hacks or special ROM things?
When I do a search, so many results come back containing the word 'happy' I have no idea where or what to look for!
Is there a thread which explains how to apply 'happy'?
Apologies for the vagueness!!
Cheers, Dennis!
lol, thats the android spell correction and me not proof reading before i post. should be HSPL
Hiya
To me, anything that's typed up 'could' potentially be what I need to do! I wouldn't know the difference!!
So, I've had a search for HSPL - I see it mentioned, but alas, I have no clue what it is, where to get it from, what to do with it when I get it!
Is there any straightforward points on what and where to get this HSPL, how to use it ?
I know I can download the HTC official ROM from their website, so that part I think I know what to do as I upgraded my last HD2.
Cheers, Dennis!
ok, hspl. Get HSPL2_RUN.zip from HERE, (you can follow instructions that say hspl or hspl3, theyre all the same, except for what phones they support, , hspl2 is teh most usefull for regular hd2 owners)
phone into bootloader and connect usb, (when you read 'get an active sync connection', , forget that, it doesnt mean actual active sync, just a usb connection)
get hspl2, run it, in the dropdown is a list of spl and hspl versions. if it ends .0000 its stock, if it ends .hspl its,,,,,, hspl.
choose 2.08.hspl, follow the prompts. if it doesnt work, run the hspl prog again, if it still doesnt work (timeout/connection errors) change usb ports and try again. no need to touch teh phone, just leave it in bootloader all the time.
once bootloader says spl 2.08.hspl you are good to go.
BUT
if you are planning to flash the 3.14 rom, , , you can't do it this way.
3.14 wont work on any spl/hspl except 3.03.0000 and there is no way to get 3.03.0000 except goldcard.
Hiya
Samsamuel - seems you're the only one willing to help me here! so I really appreciate it !
I know i've got to do 'things' from what you've said there, but I have no idea on how to do it! - give me some financial IT related stuff I'm good! ask me to do bootloaders and potential goldcard and run files and connect - I'm lost! I don't want to try things in case I 'brick' the handset!
The ROM I want is listed on the HTC downloads section for the HD2. It's dated 25th January 2010
Details are
ROM Version:
Norway:1.66.409.1, Spain :1.66.412.1, Denmark:1.66.403.1, France :1.66.406.1,
Sweden:1.66.413.2, Italy:1.66.408.1, WWE:1.66.405.2, France Bouygues: 1.66.483.0
So, if I somehow manage to do this HSPL thing, will I not be able to install the HTC ROM? I have no idea where or what the '3.14' ROM is?
Apologies for sounding really vague - I've never got into all the modified ROM's and stuff for smartphones. I've only ever needed to switch on, use the phone, install my GPS software and keep my contacts and notes syncronised. I'm just used to the HD2 I had as it was a case of straightforward use. This T mobile version is 'different'!
Anyone else able to help alongside everything SamSamuel has kindly provided so far? please?!!
Cheers, Dennis!
warning
Its best for you if you do not try to update your phone. Either get used to it or just sell it. There are rom update tutorials on this site. Just search for rom update tutorial, if you must try. The official htc software is not for this phone, if you install it, your phone will no longer work, and you wont be able to fix it.
No, its ok so long as you have a regular hd2 locked to t mobile as discussed in earlier posts.
Just to double confirm, if your phone has green send key,then STOP DANGER
But I think we're dealing with white send key, so normal hd2, and the target Tom isn't 3.14
So,,,
assuming white end key.
Phone backed up and off
Press hold keep holding volume down
Tap and release power keep holding volume down
When striped coloured screen appears
Plug in USB
On PC run hspl2
In dropdown choose 2.08.hspl
When it completes and phone starts to reboot immediately hold volume down again to return to stripey screen (bootloader)
When says USB at the bottom and split at top says 2.08.hspl run the .exe you downloaded from HTC
If you get connection errors, timeouts, leave the phone and just swap USB ports. When running hspl.exe right click it and "run as administrator"
(That's the last time I'm gonna write those out in full, there must be 500 identical step by steps and half as many YouTube vids. )
If your send key is green DO NOT DO THIS

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