Hello,
I have T-Mobile MDA2 with old 1.52 ROM. I would like to upgrade, but there are rumour saying that if you upgrade your ROM, you loose the guarantee. Therefore I would like to know, how can I backup my current ROM and in the event of claim put it back.
Thanks for help.
Petr
Prague, Czech Rep.
T-Mobile has released an official upgrade to 1.60.36
You dont lose warranty if you install that one (or use that rom as a backup!!).
Search this forum for the link, the rom is available via T-Mobile NL. It is an englisch (WWE) ROM.
Please write down your settings to re-apply them afterwards
xvylp01 said:
Hello,
I have T-Mobile MDA2 with old 1.52 ROM. I would like to upgrade, but there are rumour saying that if you upgrade your ROM, you loose the guarantee. Therefore I would like to know, how can I backup my current ROM and in the event of claim put it back.
Thanks for help.
Petr
Prague, Czech Rep.
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This real thing (not a rumour) is related only to devices sold by czech mobile operators (T-Mobile Czech, Eurotel).
Backup is possible only to SD card. I saw some how-to on it. I'll post link later.
Actually you can use XDATools found on XDA-Developers to backup ROM either to SD or PC, as well as Sprite Clone to create an image of you PPC Exactly as is right now (installed programs, etc.) (unfortunately they only sell minimum 10 copies at 10 USD a pop)- maybe we can get a few people together to buy the minimum since now of us really needs 10 copies!!!!
As I promised, here is the solution...
http://en.pdamobiz.com/en/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=62&PN=1
thks for the link, i will check it because i have a t mobile mda too with 1.52.00WWE rom ! i hope it's the same because i don't see the "II" after the "T Mobile MDA" on my Pocket pc !
Related
I tried the T-Mobile 1.60 rom on my O2 xda2.
It works perfectly with my xda2.
However, I found some interest thing on the new rom upgrade process
1. It seems XDA2 (or HTC Himalaya) use one single program for RAIDO / Extended Rom / OS Rom update. It seems Radio upgrade failure may no longer case device failure, because the RADIO upgrade process is same as OS upgrade process, and not required to copy the whole software into the RAM to upgrade.
2. Sinces some of us (and my XDA2) report that the exteneded rom is READ ONLY, but the upgrade program can update the extended rom. That means the Exteneded rom is not REALLY read only, but somewhere locked it. More funny is , it is seems the Main OS rom is not controlling the exteneded rom is locked or not, because after I updated the extended rom, it is still locked.
3. If O2 XDA2 can use T-Mobile MDA2 update, it seems the upgrade software no longer check the header of the device (At lease this version won't). I think we can use it to change device's language. However I don't know how to dump the rom in .nbf format, is that possible to convert the nb1 format to nbf format?
Thanks.
Hi killercheung...
where are you find the 1.60 rom ?
and the radio what version is ?
Can you put it in my ftp pls ?
it's always on
ftp://dgmatic.com
user: xda
pass: xda
port: 21
...like this we can have it all
Thanks in advance
Denis
I asked here for you, hopefully it will be available for everyone soon:
http://www.ppcsg.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=173744#173744
-arebelspy
killercheung, thanks for that... I'm still deciding whether to apply the new rom to my UK XDA II.... is the language of the rom netherlands? or can I have it all in english as it is with the normal O2 rom?
Do we lose anything from the o2 rom/extended rom ?
I'm wondering if O2 do bring an upgrade out if we'll be able to still use it if we've tried this t-mobile 1.60 rom.... hmmmmm
hmmm decisions decisions... do you think its much better than the current o2 rom?
Now that I have moved to the 1.60 rom, I must say there's ONE thing I DO miss ....
My O2 BUBBLES ARE GONE FROM MY ASIAN O2.
(I obviously knew this could happen, but thought I'd made a backup of my extended ROM (I DID, but I accidentally tossed it a few days ago) . Who would be so kind as to send me a copy of the O2.cab file from the extended rom, so that I can put the bubbles back into my dialer ...)
Wiz said:
Now that I have moved to the 1.60 rom, I must say there's ONE thing I DO miss ....
My O2 BUBBLES ARE GONE FROM MY ASIAN O2.
(I obviously knew this could happen, but thought I'd made a backup of my extended ROM (I DID, but I accidentally tossed it a few days ago) . Who would be so kind as to send me a copy of the O2.cab file from the extended rom, so that I can put the bubbles back into my dialer ...)
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No need to be sad. Check ur e-mail. Inform me if it doesn't arrive.
satria said:
Wiz said:
Now that I have moved to the 1.60 rom, I must say there's ONE thing I DO miss ....
My O2 BUBBLES ARE GONE FROM MY ASIAN O2.
(I obviously knew this could happen, but thought I'd made a backup of my extended ROM (I DID, but I accidentally tossed it a few days ago) . Who would be so kind as to send me a copy of the O2.cab file from the extended rom, so that I can put the bubbles back into my dialer ...)
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No need to be sad. Check ur e-mail. Inform me if it doesn't arrive.
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mind sending me a copy too ?
thanks in advance
[email protected]
Re: Some interesting things on the T-Mboile 1.60 update soft
Hi Killercheung,
You've missed out something ... the EXE file can be unzipped (using Winrar) ... you will then see the same upgrade.exe files, nbf files (3 of them) ... you can then deleted the ms_.nbf so that only the CORE ROM and RADIO is updated, and keep all O2 EXTENDED_ROM content untouch.
You can also use the same method to upgrade to Chinese ...
somesex
killercheung said:
I tried the T-Mobile 1.60 rom on my O2 xda2.
It works perfectly with my xda2.
However, I found some interest thing on the new rom upgrade process
1. It seems XDA2 (or HTC Himalaya) use one single program for RAIDO / Extended Rom / OS Rom update. It seems Radio upgrade failure may no longer case device failure, because the RADIO upgrade process is same as OS upgrade process, and not required to copy the whole software into the RAM to upgrade.
2. Sinces some of us (and my XDA2) report that the exteneded rom is READ ONLY, but the upgrade program can update the extended rom. That means the Exteneded rom is not REALLY read only, but somewhere locked it. More funny is , it is seems the Main OS rom is not controlling the exteneded rom is locked or not, because after I updated the extended rom, it is still locked.
3. If O2 XDA2 can use T-Mobile MDA2 update, it seems the upgrade software no longer check the header of the device (At lease this version won't). I think we can use it to change device's language. However I don't know how to dump the rom in .nbf format, is that possible to convert the nb1 format to nbf format?
Thanks.
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Good news about the T-Mobile ROM. I don't know what they have fixed/patched, but my O2 XDA II ROM never bothered to disconnect the GPRS connection after having spent some time online, not after surfing, not after checking e-mail. Mind you the T-moblile ROM doesn't either, except ....... when checking e-mail, which in my eyes is quite important.
So now I can go back to have my XDA check my e-mail once per hour, knowing that it will disconnect automatically.
(And Satria, thanks for sending me my bubbles
@ ming:
check ur email. Also I've seen ur review at PPCSG forum. Great.
Regards,
satria
Hi,
Just one question. Did any of you that make the update testet with the bluetooth GPS?
If yes, It works? or you still have to install TOWA´s patch?
Regards
JoseF
Re: Some interesting things on the T-Mboile 1.60 update soft
somesex said:
Hi Killercheung,
You've missed out something ... the EXE file can be unzipped (using Winrar) ... you will then see the same upgrade.exe files, nbf files (3 of them) ... you can then deleted the ms_.nbf so that only the CORE ROM and RADIO is updated, and keep all O2 EXTENDED_ROM content untouch.
You can also use the same method to upgrade to Chinese ...
somesex
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I know that, and I did unzip them beforce upgrade.
The problem is I don't know how to get a CHINESE ROM in NBF format...
Hi guys,
I did the update to rom 1.60 and it is great. I have an Imate Pocet PC. the new rom is excellent but with one sad thing and that is if the device goes in standby mode the GPRS connection if you are connected to the internet goes off as well :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: i there a fix to this.
Thanks,
Gilbert
[email protected]
Re: Some interesting things on the T-Mboile 1.60 update soft
killercheung said:
somesex said:
Hi Killercheung,
You've missed out something ... the EXE file can be unzipped (using Winrar) ... you will then see the same upgrade.exe files, nbf files (3 of them) ... you can then deleted the ms_.nbf so that only the CORE ROM and RADIO is updated, and keep all O2 EXTENDED_ROM content untouch.
You can also use the same method to upgrade to Chinese ...
somesex
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I know that, and I did unzip them beforce upgrade.
The problem is I don't know how to get a CHINESE ROM in NBF format...
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For NBF, you can use XDAtools to capture the Chinese ROM, I did once with the English ROM and the file size is exactly the same as the one in 1.60 update. So there should have no missing bytes in the saved file.
For the EXTENDED_ROM, no idea how to save in NBF format ..
I have installed the update but TomTom doesnt see the serial ports 4/5.
@axbl
Hi, What do you think about the update? It´s mutch better than before?
You say "TomTom doesnt see the serial ports 4/5."
Have you installd Towa solution?
Regards
JoseF
Gilbert said:
one sad thing and that is if the device goes in standby mode the GPRS connection if you are connected to the internet goes off as well
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yikes...... did that happen on the old rom as well or did gprs stay connected on the original rom?
I hate the way gprs disconnects on devices.. it's supposed to be always on, and I'd really prefer if it stayed on during suspend etc so that MSN could stay connected, notifying me when I got a message....
Email checking likewise, I'd prefer gprs remained always connected and it'd check email in the background whether off or on, notifying me when it got a new mail.
I can't check the behaviour of my xda II since Im on "roaming" at the moment in another country so no gprs
but can anyone say for sure which way the old vs new rom work in this regard?
I did some research on the upgrade process, and fileformats:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~itsme/projects/xda/xdaii-update-format.html
XDA developer Itsme said:
I did some research on the upgrade process, and fileformats:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~itsme/projects/xda/xdaii-update-format.html
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I get an error 403 forbidden when I try this link.. odd thing is it was working for me earlier..
-arebelspy
oeps. fixed now.
Earlier, I installed unofficial T-Mobile 1.6 rom on my i-mate. I just recenlty tried installing the official i-mate update and there is a country code. I don't have the old rom to revert to. Can anyone help. I know I would have to at the least get a copy of the old rom and then install it into the i-mate. Again, since I don't have a backup of the old one, I would need info on how to get one first.
The T-Mobile unofficial one works fine. I just wanted to go back to always on gprs etc. that the i-mate update has. If not, I guess I will have to wait until the rom kitchen is up and running for this unit. :lol:
Re: Official i-mate rom won't install after installing t-mob
jonburge said:
Earlier, I installed unofficial T-Mobile 1.6 rom on my i-mate. I just recenlty tried installing the official i-mate update and there is a country code. I don't have the old rom to revert to. Can anyone help. I know I would have to at the least get a copy of the old rom and then install it into the i-mate. Again, since I don't have a backup of the old one, I would need info on how to get one first.
The T-Mobile unofficial one works fine. I just wanted to go back to always on gprs etc. that the i-mate update has. If not, I guess I will have to wait until the rom kitchen is up and running for this unit. :lol:
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I think you better try it using bootloader way, because t-mobile protect it's update, it happen in XDAI if you update your XDA to 4.16 and you want to go back to 4.11 then you have to update it using bootloader to be able to go back from the previous one 4.11 8) hope this help you...opps correction please there is no bootloader on XDA II, there is bootloader but in different way, I think if you copy your old nbf to sd using xdatools and go to bootloader by using power+anydirection+ reset it will ask to download the nbf to you device... hmmm if this doesn't work you have to look for another way.
T-Mobile 1.60 BUGGY Rom - Want to go back to iMate ROM
Folks,
I'm in the same position - Can someone please outline the success they've had going back from the T-Mobile 1.60 ROM to Imate ROM 1.5283??
Any thoughts would be great... (I'm guessing the boot loader using an SD card may work but would love to hear of any new tricks that people have learned on this
Cheers
Andy
I'll try to help.
Where can the ROM be downloaded, so I can have a look at it.
Jos
T-Mobile Back to iMate ROM
Thanks
I've uploaded the new iMate ROM image to:
http://www.c1au.com/iMatePDAROMS/ruu15283.zip
The somewhat flakey T-Mobile 1.6.006 ROM (which I'm trying to get away from is at
http://www.c1au.com/iMatePDAROMS/TMobile160.zip
Of course, with the different operator / country codes, it's not just a matter of running the .EXE - It'll need to involve the boot loader of a little hex editing of the header, I'm guessing (just guessing?!)
The new iMate ROM is meant to be the best bet around at the moment and my device is an iMate in the first place. The only reason why I installed the T-Mobile one was to get the Bluetooth GPS fix (which works well) - BUT so many other things aren't as stable!!
The new iMate ROM is meant to have the BT GPS fix as well.
Any help, much appreciated!
Cheers
Andy
Re: T-Mobile Back to iMate ROM
acurtis007 said:
Thanks
Of course, with the different operator / country codes, it's not just a matter of running the .EXE - It'll need to involve the boot loader of a little hex editing of the header, I'm guessing (just guessing?!)
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That's correct, you need to mod it.
I'll make a procedure for it.
Jos
THANKS!
You're a champion!
Thanks very much..
It sounds like there's a few people that'll thank you!
The other posts on the subject aren't too clear at this point - So it'll be great to clear up the issue for the iMate / XDA II.
All the best - Have a great weekend.
Andy
OK, made some time to create a batch file to upgrade.
Works only for upgrade from T-Mobile 1.60.06 NL to I-mate 1.53.82.
1. Download the ROM image ruu15283.zip from the site in this posting
2. Unzip the file with Winzip
3. You now get a file called ruu15283wwwe_cdl.exe
3. Extract this file with Winzip to a new folder
4. Extract the attached file to the same folder
5. Start the conversion and upgrade by double-clicking convert.bat
Since I'm out till Sunday, I can't check my mail to respond to problems.
Enjoy!
Can the first person brave enough to try this please confirm success.
IT WORKS!!
Jes - You're a scholar and a gentleman!!
And a *(&(&( good programmer
IT WORKED!
Thanks a million!
Let me know how to send you virtual beers or whatever
(or if you need a hand with anything - Please let me know!)
Cheers
Andy
Nah, I'm not a good programmer, I just know how to write bachfiles and how to combine things to get the disered result.
Thanks has to go to Isme. He knows a lot about the internal working of the XDA II, the ROMS and the bootloader process.
He wrote the great tool used to change the file headers, so you can update your machine with a ROM of a different brand.
He's a good programmer!
If somebody needs a mod to upgrade from another ROM version, please let me know.
And if you want to do something back, please donate to the people who keep this nice forum up and running.
It worked. For those who want to get back onto the official path from unofficial t-mobile this is an automated way to do it. Thanks...Jon
Backing Up XDA2 ROM+CE
I'm a new XDA2 iMate user, want to back up my ROM+CE before I screw things up. I did this on my XDA1 (power + software reset, then press contact button I think). Anyway, I always had my ROM+CE backed up to a 64M SD card ... just in case.
I've searched these forums for such a procedure for XDA2 ... no luck.
What is the process, if any, to backup the XDA2's ROM+CE image to SD card?
Appreciate any help,
Craig
I think it's possible with the xda2dmp tool, but you better ask Itsme, he wrote it.
You can find it on this site: http://www.xs4all.nl/~itsme/projects/xda/xda-ii.html
PHoto contacts wont work
I have an imate and i just upgraded it with the new rom, but now i have a problem that the photo contacts wont work... Is there a way i can downgrade to an older version of rom. I use to rely alot on the photo contacts.. anyone else have the same problem?? thank you
Installing i-mate ROM after T-Mobile's
Gentlemen ,
I did the same (install T-mobile ROM on an imate ) and I want to install the imate ROM update. I am not sure about the T-mobile ROM , but when I boot it displays the following :
R 1.06.01
G 1337.16
D 1.60.00WWE
Kindly advsie if the above mentioned patch work in my case .
Appreciate you kind advice !
Thanks!
Should work.
Just try it out. If it's not ok, you get country error when you try to upgrade.
Jos
Hi Jos ,
I tried it and it WORKS!!!!!!!!!! You are a brilliant guy !!!
I owe you one!!
My friend wants to install the T-Mobile Update because the windows CE version on the T-mobile ROM is newer than that of the imate. Any magic patches that can be done.
Note -> Please tell me of how can I be of any help to you in return for your support
All the best
If you want to do something back, please donate to this forum to keep it up and running without advertisements or banners (just click Donate Money on top of this page).
This is how to upgrade:
Works only for upgrade from i-mate to T-Mobile 1.60.06 NL.
1. Download the T-Mobile ROM image from http://www.xda-developers.com/incoming/rom160wwe/
2. Extract this file with Winzip to a new folder
3. Extract the attached file to the same folder
4. Start the conversion and upgrade by double-clicking convert.bat
Let me know if it works.
Grtz,
Jos
Difference between i-mate 1.52.00WWE ROM and i-mate 1.53.82
Can anybody outline the differences between the 1.52.00 and the 1.53.82 official i-mate ROMs?
I'm trying to ascertain whether I have sufficient incentive to upgrade (given the "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" mentality I subscribe to in my old age!).
Sufficient incentive might be;
:arrow: Faster GPRS
:arrow: Improved battery life
:arrow: Improved all-round performance.
Thanks guys.
Codenix
Just upgraded to i-mate from much-loved XDA!
Can you confirm that the download RUU16006WWE_T-mobile_NL.exe is safe to convert German version of ROM to English?
The download is at URL: http://shop.store.yahoo.com/cellpoint/tmobilemdaii.html
Any experience from those who tried that?
Thanks,
vnez
language is 100% controlled by the rom
so if you upgrade your device with a rom in a surden
language the device will be in the language of that rom
vnez said:
Can you confirm that the download RUU16006WWE_T-mobile_NL.exe is safe to convert German version of ROM to English?
The download is at URL: http://shop.store.yahoo.com/cellpoint/tmobilemdaii.html
Any experience from those who tried that?
Thanks,
vnez
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To be more exact: the rom is here @ http://xda-developers.com/incoming/rom160wwe/RUU16006WWE_T-mobile_NL.exe
This ROM works without a problem on a German T-Mobile MDA II.
Don't know where you plan to buy it, but there are several German resellers who ship worldwide.
Take a look @ http://www.handit.de/index.php?fuseaction=shop&katid=64
You can mail them in English, but it can take some time before they reply.
Grtz,
Jos
Thank you very much.
I have already purchased the T-Mobile MDAII from Germany (Gigatech.de).
What I am not sure about is whether the change of ROM will cause erasing even MS Pocket PC programs (Excel, Word, ...) or whether they are part of the ROM and will be re-installed automatically.
Do you have this experience. I would really appreciate your reply.
Thanks and regs,
V. Nezval
Good price
You purchased that MDAII at a very good price.
I believe that these are at the rom, and therefore will change language (my experience),
but what is the real problem, if they erase they come back on the rom, if they don't erase they stay on the machine - win win situation
vnez said:
What I am not sure about is whether the change of ROM will cause erasing even MS Pocket PC programs (Excel, Word, ...) or whether they are part of the ROM and will be re-installed automatically.
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They are part of the ROM and will be installed automatically.
Grtz,
Jos
anything which is not put in ram by the user
(which is lost at rom upgrade)
is located in the rom
it's where everything is
that is everything apart from the radiostack
Hi all,
I'm a newbie here and want to upgrade my rom which is
1.60.00WWE,
radio 1.06.01,
ext rom 1.60.06,
I am using Turkcell as my gsm operator (Turkey) and my settings are for . Turkey. I downloaded a rom file in the forums named o2 1.72wwe. Is it just for the o2 users or does it support my gsm provider?
Any help would be appreciated,
dr_kaan
BTW: I bought the T-mobile XDA2 from a guy in Istanbul. He told me the original rom was German t-mobile rom. The rom i'm using now is Dutch.
you can do everything with your ROM, because you allways can recover by sd card, but never touch RADIOSTACK.
sorry... but that's nonsense...
On the XDA2 the radiostack will upgrade together with the rom and the ext-rom for all rom's higher than 1.60.
Explicatly people ruined their machine because the removed the radiostack file from the upgrade...
As usual... if you don't have problem's don't upgrade...
For me 1.60 ROM is still one of the best.
I go with that, I also have the dutch rom, and so far, it has been the most stable one, I upgraded from the german Rom.
The dutch one is a really recomandable
Thank you guys i will continue with it.
The reason i wanted to upgrade was a friend of mine told me that the new rom extended the battery life.Is that true?
One more question, will we be able to upgrade to wm2003 se?
Thanks
i think so,
i have tried my device from full capacity (100%) till 7%, i have 05.12 hours.
condition :
browsing & using excell, (no mp3, movie & game).
yes, we will, if SE come out from our provider.
After spending some time reading through the articles in this forum, I am a little bewildered. Its obviously not as simple as running a program is it??
I love and use my m1000 all day, every day and it is vital to my life.
Please please please would someone, anyone, supply step by step instructions on how to safely upgrade as I've already had to have my m1000 replaced as I tried to upgrade my rom to the MMS version as supplied by Orange.
To this day, I am unable to install the rom update to use MMS, I have asked for help from Orange and the modaco website .. and unfortunately, no luck but a pointer to this glorious forum from the modaco website.
Ta in advance ..
mrplatypus
orange comes with 2003 and the newer version is 2003SE
2000 pure is very old
read this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=18287
Apologies ...
Sorry, I meant to type .. WM2003 as opposed to WM2000 and WM2003SE to WM2000SE..
WM2003 to WM2003SE wiv MMS!
In another post on this site (with me in it) the files which reside in the extended rom after the upgrade were uploaded to this forum.
This has provided me with my mms and I am very much happier.
However, I am still after really really BASIC instruction and the files to upgrade the Operating System on the phone, from WM2003 to WM2003SE (or greater?)
Much appreciated.
mrPlatypus
the post i linked to is the easiest way i think
2003SE is not official or even originally in English it's an
Chinese rom hand translated by people in this forum so i dont think we
can expect an official easy operator install for it
also you know that flashing your orange pda would void the warranty ?
voided warranty ..
Ok, I was asking to find out how difficult it would be -- my current contract with Orange officially runs out in September where I'll be upgrading my phone/pda anyway ..
Thanks for the advice and the pointers on legality.
mrPlatypus