hi, i recently asked about disabling GPRS which i have now done through my network provider.problem is, it's still possible to access the web via GSM. does anyone know how I can permanently disable any access to the web - even if the phone is reset? O2 say they can't Block access to the GSM number. I have to do this - or get rid of my phone.
maybe if there were a program which would block any atempt to modem using gsm you could put it in the extented rom
but really it's a bit like trying to make sure nobody call a surden nr from a phone but having to do so in your end and not in the operator end
it's only possible if some hack program can block all attempts to connect using anything but usb
Disable GSM
Thanks for that. Pardon my ignorance - but what is my extended Rom? How do I but thing in there? Is such a program available?
On my settings, I notice that the GSM number has a password associated with it. Does anyone know if I can apply to change my password. That way - if the phone is hard-reset, it will try to set up a connection with the default password - which woyuld then be invalid. That way, I could ensure that only I have internet access and only when I manually input the password.
Damian Gardiner said:
hi, i recently asked about disabling GPRS which i have now done through my network provider.problem is, it's still possible to access the web via GSM. does anyone know how I can permanently disable any access to the web - even if the phone is reset? O2 say they can't Block access to the GSM number. I have to do this - or get rid of my phone.
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Hate to even mention this but as a last resort you could damage the SIM card port or have siemens disconnect the connector to GSM or SIM if possible, that would take out the phone option.
Ah, but wouldn't that disable the phone completely? i still need the phone to make ordinary calls...
Thanks though Iggy. Know you say that you hate to mention it, and I know I must sound like a complet Philistine Monkey for wanting to do this. But I bought the XDA principally for its connectivity to MS Office, and for the fact its a phone. I couldn't give two hoots about using the internett. it costs too much anyway, and others have access to the phone and know how to reset, use the net, then reset again - and restore the info. Thus making it look like it hasn't been used. (though I can check the call register etc).
So you see I need to do this - to protect my wallet & my kids...
As a very last resort - I'll sell the XDA. buy a seperate PDA with no mobile connectivity, then buy a standard mobile instead.
Damian Gardiner said:
Ah, but wouldn't that disable the phone completely? i still need the phone to make ordinary calls...
Thanks though Iggy. Know you say that you hate to mention it, and I know I must sound like a complet Philistine Monkey for wanting to do this. But I bought the XDA principally for its connectivity to MS Office, and for the fact its a phone. I couldn't give two hoots about using the internett. it costs too much anyway, and others have access to the phone and know how to reset, use the net, then reset again - and restore the info. Thus making it look like it hasn't been used. (though I can check the call register etc).
So you see I need to do this - to protect my wallet & my kids...
As a very last resort - I'll sell the XDA. buy a seperate PDA with no mobile connectivity, then buy a standard mobile instead.
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Sorry Damian Gardiner, did'nt quite understand before that you still needed the phone functionality. Just a quick question, for you to connect to an ISP is that not a data call (whether by GSM or CDMA or Normal phone line) and if so I thought it was possible for your provider to disable data calls?????? Don't really what I am talking about, just thinking out loud.
The way that I disable mine is in the [My Connections] settings where it asks to "Select a modem", I pick the "Hayes Compatible Modem" which does not exist in the XDA. So the device cannot dial out my ISP number. When I actually want to connect to my ISP, I pick "Cellular Line". Actually, if you pick "Cellular Line" it just counts as voice minutes. This can be very useful especially during weekends. It is quite slow though. If you pick GPRS then it counts as data, which is additional service.
Give it a try.
Pat
If your provider disables both GPRS and CSD, you can't make any data calls at all. CSD is what provides the ability to dial a provider.
Wouldnt it just work when you delete ALL connections on the XDA?
That way the device won't be able to connect straight away and thus alwys comes up for some user interaction. . .
When I am on my own network I use CSD (ie. dial-up) because it counts as voice minutes (and I don't ever use all the minutes of my bundle)
When I am abroad I use GPRS (cheaper than Roaming CSD)
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I have a Siemens SX56 using AT&T Wireless as a carrier.
The phone is running the following:
ROM Verison: 3.14.03 ENG
ROM Date: 09/27/02
Radio Version: 6.12
Protocol Version: 324e4
My question is:
I would like to connect to a traditional ISP. I have talked to AT&T and they said when I go to the internet, I have to connect using their GPRS network. They said that if I used another ISP I would not have to pay them to use the internet. DUH! this is what I want to do. Any advice would be appreciated...
Thanks!!!
Bob
You can connect to the Internet using GPRS. This, in essence, would make AT&T your Internet Provider. You can choose to get your mail at your existing provider (but you must use AT&T's server for outbound mail). Other than that, your 'normal' ISP has nothing to do with you once you connect through AT&T using GPRS.
You could, theoretically, also connect using the GSM as an ordinary modem, by dialing your old ISP, making what's called a 'GSM data call'. This would however limit throughput to roughly 9600 bps, and it would not have the nice 'always on' property of GPRS. It would be cheaper per bit (in most cases) for large downloads though. Go figure.
i want to make a gsm data call
I do want to make a GSM data call. at&t charges an arm and a leg for data access, that usimg my regular ISP even at 9600 baud would be great.
when I try to set up anything other than GPRS, it says "there is no answer". I called siemens and the said at&t disabled anything other than GPRS.
what I want to know is can I enable that ability which I know the phone can do?
Thanks
Bob
GSM data calls can be made from most phones, but AT&T may have disabled this call type for anyone but those paying for a 'data subscription'. With most providers a data subscription just means you get a seperate phone number in order to be able to receive incoming calls from analogue modems.
GSM providers are weird. For instance O2 in The Netherlands blocks fax calls for some unknown reason, but passes GSM data calls.
I must not be clear...
OK... I must not be clear, so I will try to be more clear in my question.
First a little background:
I have AT&T wireless with a data subscription. My current subscription is for 8 Megabytes per month. I would like to use the web, but with only an 8 Megabyte limit (which is AT&T's highest data level subscription that you can buy) I can not do much on the Internet.
I know that a GSM data call is slower. I know that it is not always on like GPRS. Because of the data limit of my current AT&T data subscription I want to make a data call from my phone to my ISP.
I have setup a ISP connection profile in the connections area on the phone. When I dial the ISP the phone responds with a message that says "the number you dialed is not answering" this is a text based message, not a voice message. I know the phone is answering because I can call it from my home pc or just dial it from the cell phone and it answers. I was told by siemens that AT&T turned the GSM Data portion of the phone off. I am hoping they turned it off with software and its a setting or something I can change in the registry to enable it again.
So in summary:
I do pay for a GPRS data subscription ($25.00 for 8 Megabytes / month)
I would really like to also use GSM data as an option for getting to the Internet when I do not want to use up my 8 Megabyte limit on GPRS.
I really have appreciated your comments and your help. I hope I am being more clear in my question now.
Thanks,
Bob
I'll try to be more clear as well then...
Try calling your provider and see whether they support GSM data calls from 'normal' subscriptions. And with normal subscription, I'm not talking about whether or not the subscription has GPRS, but I mean any subscription that doesn't get you a special phone number for incoming data calls.
There's plenty of providers that do not provide normal data calls, even to subscribers that pay extra to get GPRS. Most of this practice did end when WAP was believed to become big, but some may have limited data calls to their own WAP access numbers.
Should your provider still offer separate numbers for analogue and ISDN, try calling both types to see what happens, and do play around with both call types (analogue & ISDN) from your XDA. (Under 'Settings' / 'Connections' / 'CSD Line Type' in modern ROMs)
Good Luck...
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I am trying to do the same thing with my 02 XDA, and i get the same message saying it is not answering. However, i can dial my ISP using a GSM connection, as i have done this using my nokia 7650 connected via IRDA to my PC, and useing it as a modem. However i cannot get the same connection to work using my XDA. Very strange, so if anyone can help.
Hey guys,
I was wondering if anybody has the blackberry software running on the xdaII with tmobile US? I know theres a specific rate plan you have to get with it, but does it allow you to browse the web with it also? What apn's are you using to do both, mail and web? How well does it work and where can I find the app?
thanks
I am using it on an XDA II on t-mobile. I hav the Blackberry minutes and mail plan that is essentially $19.99 for un,imited data and SMS messages and 59.99 for 1000 anytime minutes. As far as the Blackberry Client is concerned, I am use the Blackberry Web Client (BWC). Have not activated BES side yet. Here's my "good" and "bad" lists on the BWC side:
GOOD
1. Excellent, super fast, very reliable basic messaging.
2. Allows you to auto forward and consolidate multiple e-mail accounts and have all messages forwarded to your device
3. Allows you to specify what return address you want the recipientto respond to.
4. Allows you to make the reciepient think that the message is coming from a different e-mail address than your tmo web client address. For example, I have a RIM pager and use that address as return address on XDA. Everyone still thinks I am using the RIM device, when in fact everything is being doen to and from the XDA.
BAD
1. Have not been able to download or open any attachments
2. Clinet does not automatically open the next message, like it odes on regular e-mail. makes you open each message manually.
3. Move message function does not seem to work i.e. you can delete a message, but you cannot seem to be able to move a message to say an archive folder.
4. The client softeare is not integrated with the "Sounds and Notifications" settings i.e. the balckberry client does not show up under the "sounds and notifications" menu, making it imposible to set any kind of audible, vibrating or flashing light alert when a message comes in. All you have is a very short and quiet "beep" when a new message arrives
I can still browse the web, but some sites are not as assessible as they were under th normal data service. For example, I cannot run he Smartner client anymore. It may be possible to add a second APN for regular data, but TMo tech support put me off trying this as they said it would creat a conflict.
All in all I am pleased with the software as I have now been finally able to retire my RIM ipager and now have everything on one device! :lol:
And oh yes, where do you get the software? Its part of the latest O2 ROM image. Download and install 1.72.181 ROM for the O2 myxda website
Hope that helps
Regards
Chris
thanks chris,
So to be able to browse the web, Im gonna need the 19.99 data right? I guess thats why the web wasnt working for me, I got the blackberry app to somewhat work but the web was a no go. Thats what I was afraid of, I definitely do not want to add another 19.99 to my plan.
Thanks for confirming the info with me.
Ben
Hi Ben
I am actually able to browse the web using the Blackbery APN (blackberry.net). I also had some success with APN: wap.voicestream.com. TMo have had some network issues recently that have interupted the Blackberry service. I have called tech support and they had to reprovision the account, which fixed the problems. I would give them a call, say you are having issues with web access and then ask them to reprovision the account for you. You should be able to reach most sites. My issues were more with accessing data and relay servers and services (a la Smartner, iAnywhere etc) than regular web sites.
Give that a try and see if that helps. Let me know how you get on
Regards
Chris
Ben
One more thing. You may be doing this already, but if not, make sure that you "stop" the blackberry software before you launch internet explorer. That way you will disconnect the blackberry connection and allow the XDA to start a new data connection under either APN: blackberry.net or APN: wap.voicestream.com (whichever you have setto default) Once finished with the internet you can stsrt the blackberry messaging client up again.
Regards
Chris
chris,
When u were able to access wap.voicestream.com and the blackberry.net, did you always have the 19.99 data option on your rate plan? I was just using the wap.voicestream.com apn since I only had tzones, but since I'm using the xdaII, I was always able to view html pages. Tmobile has now blocked port 80 if your not paying for the 19.99 data package. So I was just wondering if you always had 19.99 data option.
thanks for the help.
ben
Hi Ben
No, I was able to access it after I switched over to the blackberry plan. They disabled my regular data plan first and then activated the Blackberry plan. Tech support said that I should be able to "access most web sites" which appeared to be correct, aside form some of the network problems TMo had as mentioned earlier.
Regards
Chris
How did you guys get the software on your device? I am thinking about buying an XDA just for this. Right now I have a siemens sk65 coming in but I would love to get back to a pocketpc
Hi StingOr
The Blackberry software client is built into the latest O2 ROM (1.72.181), so if you get the O2 XDA 2 and load that ROM, then you would be good to go.
Regards
Chris
Hello, this is my first post her and my first experience in doing this.
I bought a 6800 off of eBay, It is the CDMA version w/ GPS, a Bell Mobility phone. I was under the impression that MTS (Manitoba Telecom Services) was still aligned with Bell, but it turns out that hasn't been the case in over 6 months, so now I may as well try and hack my phone. They don't use the same data lines anymore either.
I took it to MTS to get it activated. The calling and text messaging works just fine, but the data part does not work AT ALL. It gives me an error message "Can't connect for an unknown reason. To check your connection settings and change them if needed, tap Settings. If the problem continues, reset your mobile device according to your manufacturer's documentation and try again."
I've been doing some reading on the wiki and other posts here, and it's a lot to absorb for someone who is completely new to this. I THINK all I have to do at this point is unlock the phone, change the carrier to MTS, and enter the akey (which I could possibly get from MTS).
Does this sound about right? I realize I could put a custom ROM on and a new Radio ROM, but if I don't need them just yet I would rather see if this will work.
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I realize I could put a custom ROM on and a new Radio ROM, but if I don't need them just yet I would rather see if this will work.
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i feel a custom rom is the first thing to do to these phones.... sorry cant help with the other questions......
Can you call them and find out how their data connections work?
Like with me, for Sprint, I have to dial #777. You might just have to edit your connection settings
Can't speak directly to MTS, but on VZW, what I do is an esn change off the phone to my backup...flash the custom rom, then esn change back. This takes care of akey and provisioning.
I Just rooted my phone using Super One Click rooter and unlocked it using SGS Unlock Pro app from the market. I'm trying to unlock it on Roger's network (i think its the same as AT&T)
Thing is i cannot connect to the internet/data on the phone, it says to check connection settings but i dont know what i need to change. Phone calls and texting works just not data.
Any help would be great, i am pretty new at this stuff and have spent the past 3 days trying to figure this all out
You need to change the proxy setting to those of your network service provide. Just call the customer care and ask them for the detailed info about that, they'll probably send you a sms carrying the settings for you to install based on your device.
If that doesn't work (I had that issue) just manually enter the settings after you ask the agent about them or better yet check them out on the internet. Usually service providers post them on their official sites under GPRS, EDGE or 3G.
Weird i just changed my APN to internet.com and it works
Completely disable & block 2G 3G ALL data access on Android via S/W, Hack, or MDM?
Possible to completely disable 2G 3G ALL data on Android directly using some Software on PC or Phone or via MDM?
There have been cases of some people I know (older family) that were brought an Android phone but inadvertently some Data was used without a Data Plan - more expensive.
Lets say instead of buying Feature Phones for some delivery boys, we bought Cheapest Android phones possible - The boss there just wants Phone calls with them and wants to ensure the boys wont be able to Rack up Data use/ bills on the phone -
Are there ways to Disable Data AND/ OR WiFI? Selectively or so? Maybe only have it on when being configured by MDM?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42051073
I saw this suggested APN answer, but that means a user/ employee can change it as well. Any "Administrator" kind of way to "block the data" and "disable users ability to circumvent" around it? Some MDM or Software / Hack solutions besides the wrong APN hack that someone could possibly get around? Any way to prevent them getting around as an Admin?
You could have the carrier block it but to be honest it will cause more issues as the device was made to be connected so it will lag and things will be force closing all over the place.
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You could have the carrier block it but to be honest it will cause more issues as the device was made to be connected so it will lag and things will be force closing all over the place.
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Carrier company are devious people. They canned entire CDMA network with only a 7 day notice, forced millions of people to buy GSM phones and since there was no price diff between a Feature Phone & Android Phone we got cheapest Android on the market for the delivery boys.
BQ S37
Kit Kat 4.4
It has We UI
They are so devious, to get new SIMs they forced us to send new GSM phones to them and then only activated the old CDMA numbers on GSM and then added:
1. Phone numbers of all their Sister companies - Insurance, Healthcare etc etc
2. Set up APNs and data etc on the phone
So I followed the following suggestions:
1. Enter wrong data into APN - Tested it
2. Disabled "Data Traffic" in Toggles
But, the issue is that these 2 can be fixed by someone if so inclined.
Is there any way to DISABLE a Users access to these things?