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I was flashing the extended rom and radio Simultaneously,
first I copy the first 3 M of the radio to sd (d2s 60000000 00300000), but I have not ended with the extended rom to the sd card (d2s 70080000 01000000 sd a ).
Result, the unit is with out RADIO, on startup it doesn't show the radio version and it doesn't work.
Now if I try to reinstall the radio by Himaupgradeut. it'll fail (error 114:radio rom update error)
Any help, thanks a lot!
No way, you have to call the service to get a replacement unit.
I crashed my radio stack 2 weeks ago and now I have a new device. There was no way for me to repair the radio stack.
But something makes me wonder: the radio stack was erased after installing spb pocket plus 2. It seems to be a dangerous software.
sorry
Frank
Thanks Frank,
already sended the MDA II to CS Communication serv. for to repair/change the units.
I jest wondering way happened that?
I was try to get back from 1.7 Beta ROM with another devices, so I was getting the ROM by SD from the units that lost the radio.
Lots strange things happen witn 1.7 Beta ROM.
One MDAII with 1.7 Beta ROM went back to 1.6 ROM without any problem, with another ones I'm not able to go back to 1.6 ROM or something else!
I try all possible solution (as described on these forum) but nothing would change the 1.7 Beta R.
I get always ID error (3-N-PH-PH-PH) or if I cancel the Operator and language I get CE ROM error and I've trying with different ROMs.
I think to have lost 3 days on trying to change the ROM and now I've 2 units sended to the service!
These's my bead experience.
Ciao to everyone.
Hello,
I recently acquired an i-mate and before doing anything, decided to perform a ROM upgrade. It started with ROM version 1.66.00WWE and Radio version 1.10.00. I followed all the instructions on the clubimate website. The ROM upgrade (Step 1) went well, until I started the English Language customization (step 2). That program froze on my computer and left the i-mate in bootloader mode, even before starting the Extended ROM upgrade for the customizations. When trying to upgrade the main 1.72 ROM again, it gets stuck at the Radio Stack Upgrade (to version 1.14) at 14%, then either exits with no message (Win XP), or gives a Radio Stack Upgrade error message (Win 98 ME). The phone meanwhile says that it is perfuming the radio stack upgrade and to please wait. Waiting for an hour yielded no change. The following is the log file entries of the part for the Radio Stack upgrade:
03:06:42 Connection with USB
03:07:52 Begin Stage 4
03:08:22 Radio Erase retry 1
03:08:59 Radio Erase retry 2
03:09:15 Stage 4 Complete
03:09:15 Begin Stage 5
03:09:15 Write block1
03:09:26 Write block2
03:09:32 Write block3
03:10:08 Radio Update data retry 1
03:10:16 Write block4
03:10:24 Write block5
03:10:32 Write block6
03:10:40 Write block7
03:10:49 Write block8
03:11:25 Radio Update data retry 2
03:12:01 Radio Update data retry 3
I tried many times, but get the same result. I followed all advice on this forum and searched all over for solutions, from getting the device into bootloader mode (power button + action button + reset), making sure that my PC does not have any other USB device connected, that the only programs running are the upgrade utility and ActiveSync 3.7.1, etc.
I also notice it takes approx 1 hour from start of upgrade until the Radio Stack Upgrade, instead of the advertised 30 minutes. Someone mentioned that this Radio Stack Upgrade problem may be caused by a security feature on the Radio Stack ROM preventing the installation of older versions. However, I am installing the newest (ver 1.14), so this should not be a problem. With a hunch, I decided to try the English Language Customization (1.72.800) upgrade again, and the extended ROM upgrade worked, but still no Radio Stack. So now I ave everything upgraded, but a blank Radio Stack.
Now when performing a hard reset, I get the blue screen with "i-mate" written on it. In the bottom right only the version of the ROM "D 1.72.00 WWE" is shown, but it says "No GSM" right above it. It takes approx. 15 minutes to boot (with blue Bluetooth LED flashing), then goes through the screen alignment and intro procedure. After that, it installs customization and boots again. It takes another 15 minutes to boot and the phone functions only as a PDA. Even a soft reset takes 15 minutes (with Bluetooth LED flashing). I tried upgrading again after that, but no use. Going to "Device Information", I see the versions of ROM and Extended ROM, but the Radio and Protocol are blank.
I tried phased upgrading, where I would include the main ROM upgrade file into to the directory where the archive was extracted, then extended ROM, then radio stack. Everytime the radio stack upgrade failed (i.e. stuck at 14%), I would try to upgrade that part only, since all others upgraded successfully.
I am really out of options. Any help would be highly appreciated.
Thanks!
I asked Carrier Devices (clubimate) about this step 2 because on the official download page all I saw was the step 1, no step 2 and no link to download.
The answer I got was there is no english customization 800, only a beta. The customization or step2 would be presented for arabic or telstar etc based on your IMEI # not for english it is contained in the first .exe
So you MUST have got this 800 customization and maybe the main upgrade from on here because it was never on the offical download page. Only the BETA from the FTP which some hacked into on clubimate and posted on here.
Go to the official download page on clubimate (register if you havn't) and dowload the official .exe upgrade (one file) and see if it will run. Don't get it from here.
RUU172126WWE_imate.exe
Hard reset a couple times and that should be it. The upgrade does take a LONG time to do.
If that does not work, you might have to do a warranty repair, I would use the online chat support on clubimate, just watch for when they are online and ask. I don't think you can just flash the radio portion.
I find 1.72 VERY stable and fast. Good luck!
Hmm.. All files were downloaded from the official clubimate website (I had to register in order to download). Talking to customer support, they were aware of the Step 2 customization file on their site (they recommended it, too). I doubt I downloaded hacked ones.
Still a loss on what to do, other than take it to a service center, that is (anybody do that? was it expensive? took too long?).
I tried a suggestion where I extracted the Radio Stack ROM upgrade file from version 1.66 and installing it separately. Still stops at 14%. I also tried a full reflash back to 1.66, but also same result. Took it to an i-mate service center nearby, was surprised that they didn't even know how to put the i-mate into bootloader mode (I had to show them)! All they could do was try reflashing using the same utilities we use (still no luck). They said that anything more elaborate would require sending it to Dubai. So much for "service" center. So, no luck there, either.
Also tried to reflash to the orginal 1.00 ROM with 1.05 Radio: The upgrade utilitiy that came with that version won't go past the small "please wait...." screen. Just sits there.
Really sad. I didn't even use this phone (figured that the best start is to perform a ROM upgrade). I'm not that impressed with how fragile ROM upgrading is (and I am careful with using only official releases). I thought after the Wallaby, things would be more robust. Maybe I shold dump this thing and get an HP h6300 series.
Note that I managed to successfully upgrade to 1.72 at least once. It was only when trying the 1.72.800 customization did things start to go south.
Also, does it matter whether the SIM card is in the phone or not while upgrading? Instructions are not clear, although they did mention that the phone will behave as if it is out of area.
Another question (desperate and a long shot, maybe stupid), Do SIM cards from say T-Mobile have an effect on i-mate phone Radio Stack ROM (i.e. lock it, etc.?)
ANY help would be appreciated!
i-mate and bootloader
I just got to see the problem as I am going through the same search for answer. How to get to the stage of bootloader? Somehow I feel that the device has crashed: While I was trying to install the upgrade RUU172126WWE_imate, my laptop, and for some odd reason, shut itself down, then auto restarted. The i-mate from that point on did not respond and in fact all lights on the device went blackout. I tried soft and hard resets but to no avail. I even removed the battery for several hours and when I re-installed it, all what it gave me was the word i-mate (but no backlight). Any advise on how I can get the device functional again.
Thank you.
Put your device in bootloader (press the Jog button and the Power button at same time and press the reset switch). Place it in the cradle and re-run the upgrade. That should work OK.
Jog
Thanks for the quick reply.
Power and reset button I know, but I am not familiar with the Jog button on the i-mate (Pocket PC PE). Appreicate your help.
Its the multi-directional button in the middle at the bottom. Press it straight down.
Hey guys, ive been reading many threads regarding issues with the sx56, but after going through most of them, it seems ive been left with more questions. Anyway, my problem is , first of all the reception sucks, signals drop every now and then and i hate saying "sorry? ur breaking up" now from what ive learnt so far from most of the posts is that this "signal" issue is due to the radio stack. My siemens sx56 is running:
Windows Mobile Pocket PC 2003
Model No.: PW10B1
ROM version : A.30.09.ENG
ROM date : 01/01/04
Radio Version : A.33.02
Protocol Version : 1.3.3
now, i have been thinking that maybe i should try downgrading the radio stack while still using ppc2003 , but ive seen many posts in which people have bricked their phones due to downgrade.
Another thing is i forgot what was the default radio version before the ppc2003 upgrade (as i think the signal strength was somewhat better prior to this upgrade) So just to be on the safe side, could any of you recommend me which radio stacks i can use? the ones i see on LumpiStefans site are:
RSU Version 3.23
RSU Version 4.16
RSU Version 4.21
RSU Version A20.10
RSU Version 6.24.20
RSU Version 6.25.02
from what i have figured the A20.10 might be the one which was originally installed in the phone when it came with ppc2002 just a guess since there are no other versions above which has an A in the start.But would downgrading kill my phone?
Now the next problem is the volume problem, that INCREASING ring is quite stupid, ive tried disabling the PDA volume and let the phone volume on full, the increasing ring problem goes away but it raises another problem of JUST ONE RING thats it, it just doesnt keep on ringing, just rings once and then goes silent. Do tell me if this is also a radio stack problem or is there any solution for it.
And yeah , finally, is windows mobile 5.0 any good? is it better than the windows mobile pocket pc 2003? and will it work on the sx56? in fact, are there any other OS besides ppc2002-ppc2003 which would work on sx56?
Thanks.
snakey said:
Another thing is i forgot what was the default radio version before the ppc2003 upgrade (as i think the signal strength was somewhat better prior to this upgrade) So just to be on the safe side, could any of you recommend me which radio stacks i can use? the ones i see on LumpiStefans site are:
RSU Version 3.23
RSU Version 4.16
RSU Version 4.21
RSU Version A20.10
RSU Version 6.24.20
RSU Version 6.25.02
from what i have figured the A20.10 might be the one which was originally installed in the phone when it came with ppc2002 just a guess since there are no other versions above which has an A in the start.But would downgrading kill my phone?
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The A20.10 and the 6.xx Version should work on your phone, cause it's a PW10B-Model....
Flashing of Radio Stack is everytime little bit danderous like all flashing.
If the process doing fine, there should be no problem. I would do removing the sim and doing a hardreset before flashing the radiostack....
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Now the next problem is the volume problem, that INCREASING ring is quite stupid, ive tried disabling the PDA volume and let the phone volume on full, the increasing ring problem goes away but it raises another problem of JUST ONE RING thats it, it just doesnt keep on ringing, just rings once and then goes silent. Do tell me if this is also a radio stack problem or is there any solution for it.
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This is an issue of the A30.0x ROMs. If you're going to use the 4.01.12 then there won't be the increasing sound problem.....
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And yeah , finally, is windows mobile 5.0 any good? is it better than the windows mobile pocket pc 2003? and will it work on the sx56? in fact, are there any other OS besides ppc2002-ppc2003 which would work on sx56?
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There is no WM 5.0 available for the Wallaby devices. Newest, but in my eyes really buggy ROM Version is WM2003 Second Edition....
Only othe rOS running on the Wallaby is Linux, but until now it's not running as complete, as you can use your phone and all the other functions....
Stefan
thank u for the reply stefan! just a few more quick questions:
1. How do i soft/hard reset? iam sorry iam new to pocket pc's.
2. The ROM u mentioned ,4.01.12, does it have any bugs i should be aware of?
3.Which radio stack do you think is better? the 6.xx or A20.10?
4.How do i install the radio stack and the rom? i downloaded the radio stack ZIP file and the rom is being downloaded. The radio stack zip file has no WIN32 executable file. Do i need to copy it over the phone ? how?
5. Should i install the rom first or the radio stack?
Thanks.
1. Softreset is pushing your stylus once in the little hole on the left side at the bottom.
For Hardreset you have to unscrew your stylus and push twice in the very little hole on the right side at the bottom.
2. The 4.01.12 has like all other WM2003 for the Wallaby the problem that under certain circumstands the sd-card will be formatted. I have used WM2003 for about 2 weeks and had this problem once.
3. Don't know which one is better. Never used one of them cause i have a PW10A-Model
4. You have to put the files in one folder on your SX56 and run the exe directly on the device. Pay Attention to have enough power....
5. It depends on you.....
Stefan
ok this is weird... i upgraded my rom to 4.01.12, after the O2 Screen, normal setup procedure comes.. the thing which bothered me was when i clicked on DEVICE INFORMATION..it is now showing model PW10A-MODEL whereas its a PW10B model,says so on the sticker, and the radio stack is still A.33.02 :S
its working though signal problems are still there... i tried the A20.10 and 6.xxx radio stack versions but they dont wanna upgrade , they give messages like "upgrade failed or retry". Should i try other RSU versions like 4.21??
or maybe i need to try that sd-bootloader method? if so, how?
ok you can ignore my previous post about radio stack, i guess i found the solution.
Radio stack upgrade only works if you copy the 4 files of any radio stack archive to the WINDOWS ROOT FOLDER OF YOUR WALLABY DEVICE!
copying to a seprate folder or anywhere else results in 1% hangup or upgrade failed messages. IT ONLY WORKS WHEN YOU COPY THE FILES TO THE WINDOWS ROOT FOLDER OF THE DEVICE . I just upgraded the radio stack to 6.24.00, lets see if it solves my the problem of bad and breaking up signals.
I still havent found out why my wallaby shows PW10A though :roll:
snakey said:
WINDOWS ROOT FOLDER OF YOUR WALLABY DEVICE!
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Could you specify Windows root folder?
is it \Windows\ or just \ ??????
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I still havent found out why my wallaby shows PW10A though :roll:
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This depends on the ROM used. PW10A is static in the ROM. If you want it, I'm sure I can make a ROM where it's Type is PW10F .....
Stefan
its the \WINDOWS folder.
And the ROM i used was 4.01.12.
By the way, that 6.24.00 RSU kicks butt! havent came across any signal problems at all. Thanks a lot stefan! this forum rules! :lol:
and do let me know about this model version problem, do i need to install any other ROM which will display the correct model version i.e PW10B ??
Got fustrated
I hat the 4.01.16 ROm with 6.02 RSU, I've tryed to upgrade to 6.25.02, copy all files to Windows and the Upgrade to startup, but I kept at 1%, do a reset and after 10 minutes I got an error, now my phone is off, I cannot turned on, in settings I still had version 6.02 of RSU, If I use the Phone icon in Control Panel it says the fhone is off, turn it on and try again and there's the wait icon in the windows.
How can I restore my settings?, perhaps I tryied to updagre with poor storage space, the MS Voice Command eated allmost all RAM and I had to increase it, also I left the SIM while upgrading, any help will be wellcome.
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WhiteWizard said:
I hat the 4.01.16 ROm with 6.02 RSU, I've tryed to upgrade to 6.25.02, copy all files to Windows and the Upgrade to startup, but I kept at 1%, do a reset and after 10 minutes I got an error, now my phone is off, I cannot turned on, in settings I still had version 6.02 of RSU, If I use the Phone icon in Control Panel it says the fhone is off, turn it on and try again and there's the wait icon in the windows.
How can I restore my settings?, perhaps I tryied to updagre with poor storage space, the MS Voice Command eated allmost all RAM and I had to increase it, also I left the SIM while upgrading, any help will be wellcome.
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please let me know if you find the solution...I have the same problem
Thanks
Yes
Yes, The solution was to put all files on the windows folder and execute the update program from that location, the procedure continues to 100%, and then, I think it reset my machinne, and when it boot again I got the new RSU installed and the phone was able to turn on again, automatically.
Good Luck
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WhiteWizard said:
Yes, The solution was to put all files on the windows folder and execute the update program from that location, the procedure continues to 100%, and then, I think it reset my machinne, and when it boot again I got the new RSU installed and the phone was able to turn on again, automatically.
Good Luck
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can you tell me whcih version of RSU you used?
I have PW10B1 model and I load the XDA-Developers ROM Version 1.1 but I still have problems with RSU..I tried almost all RSU from ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wallaby/ but no succees...
if you have the same model maybe you can send me by email your RSU version...please!
my email is [email protected]oo.com
I have 6.25.02
I'm using the 6.25.02 version, the very same files that had failed with then 1% problem, the trick was no to put anything in the starup folder, do not soft reset before the procedure.
Simply navigate to your Windows folder with any file explorer and execute the update program. Give it time to finish, ensure that the procedure reach 100%.
Good Luck
Re: I have 6.25.02
WhiteWizard said:
I'm using the 6.25.02 version, the very same files that had failed with then 1% problem, the trick was no to put anything in the starup folder, do not soft reset before the procedure.
Simply navigate to your Windows folder with any file explorer and execute the update program. Give it time to finish, ensure that the procedure reach 100%.
Good Luck
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I just did this but when I'm starting at 1% the status bar is disappearing and it seems that is doing nothing...is this normal?
Did you had the status bar until 100%?
Perhaps you have a wrong ROM for that RSU
Remember that you must have the rigth ROM for a given RSU, all Win2003 require RSU version 6.x, if you hace downgraded the ROM you'll need an older RSU.
Sorry
Yes, I saw my status bar reach 10%, 20% and so on, ultil it reach 100%
Re: Perhaps you have a wrong ROM for that RSU
WhiteWizard said:
Remember that you must have the rigth ROM for a given RSU, all Win2003 require RSU version 6.x, if you hace downgraded the ROM you'll need an older RSU.
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here is written tu use for their ROM, XDA-Developers ROM Version 1.1, and PW10B-Model RSU Version 6.24.20 ....but is not working with this also (...
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wallaby_HT_GSMError
Hey guys I followed Mr vanx guide to update the radio ROM. I have the nbh file containing the radio and a custom RUU. However, everytime I want to update my radio, I cant. Before unlocking and CID and made my device hard spl i tried before to change the radio but i got the same error i have now. By that time i had 1.48.00.10. Now after superCID, HardSPL and unlocked, i get the same exact error. Thus the radio ROM now is different 1.16 due to that program that CID & Unlocks the phone. I want to put it the 1.47.30 (battery friendly) and everytime i click on the update it puts my hermes into bootloader mode. When he is about to update, on the computer the graph goes suddenly from 0% to 7% whereas on hermes it stays on 0%. Then the program gives me an error: Flash write error. I then have to soft reset the phone and it gets stuck in the bootloader. I use the mtty tool set 16 0 and i can go back into wm6.1. Does anybody know why the **** i cant update this?
btw: i tried other radios, same error, same thing
Try the sd card method. If that doesn't work I'd say you may have a corrupted radio...
sd method
1). format sd card fat32.
2). copy RUU_wrapper.nbh to card & rename to "Hermimg.nbh".
3). insert in phone and reset to bootloader - hold power, ok button above flywheel and reset with stylus. Hold in until you get to tricolour screen.
4). Hermes should recognize the upgrade, follow the prompts.
*****MAKE SURE THE BATTERY IS BETTER THAN 50% CHARGED*****
Is that dangerous?
I mean we downgraded the radio after i had those problems updating but it wasn't me, it was that tool to supercid and to unlock that did it. So I dont think the radio is corrupted (otherwise the gsm, BT and Wifi wouldn't work right?)
If it works and you're happy to leave, then don't upgrade. There is ALWAYS an element of danger flashing your Hermes... Wait until you feel comfortable or find problems. Its been covered before but the radio rom doesn't have to upgraded to the latest to be best for you. Its carrier compliant and if your carrier uses 150.00.00 then thats better than ugrading to 154.30.10 as it may not work as well or drain your battery faster for instance.
I personally would find out what would be the best radio to use, flash that once and not touch it again unless you feel 100% sure it would be better.
As I say though, use the sd card method if you do as it is safer from "accidents" happening to your pc/usb cable or having power dropouts.
Cheers...
Thanks for the answer mate. I want to flash because since the downgrade caused by the v3a tool (cid and unlocking hermes) the battery drain is quite inconstant =/ Sometimes it stays a lot of time on one percentage, then it drops down really fast Ok ill try this method. I heard that the best battery friendly radio ROM is 1.47 so ill try it out
Btw, i have another issue, with the media player. When Im listening to music and i have the device on standby mode, when it gets to the end of the song, he doesn't play the next one. However, if i turn it on it immediately starts playin the next song. What can i do to solve this? tks in advance
I cant extract the nbh file from the ruuwrapper.exe tried with winrar, no luck
Solved. I downloaded the package radio from the wiki and it worked like a charm. In less than 10min i got my radio rom installed
Hi all
I've upgraded my touch dual to WM 6.1 chinese official but now the bluetooth chip is not recognized, like the device has bo BT.
I have installed hardspl 1.15 before upgrade to this, is correct?
i've tryed also to restore the original SPL 1.16 and reflash, but no BT again.
I've flashed the original radio 1.58 and the original WM6 TIM branded ita version, but no BT again.
anyone could help me?
tnx a lot!
This ROM needs at minimum the integrated 1.65 Radio! After flashing the ROM, make a hardreset and report back!
the chinese version has radio incorporated in nbh, wich is version 1.65.29.22 (i can see on the startup screen).
of course i have hard reset the device after the first boot (red + green key and reset)
i've tryed the non asia version, RUU_Nike_HTC_WWE_2.09.405.1_Radio_NikeMR_1.65.28.25_signed_Ship.exe, hard reset but no BT again :-(
That's really strange!
I'm sorry but at this point I think I can't help you!
man, i think that i've found the issue.
today i decided to open my nike. Removed the screw and the bottom cover, i've found a scew attached to the speaker, wich has destroyed it (in effect, after a repair from htc, the sound was really bad) and this screw touched with the top metal on the bluetooth board, so, i think that some short circuit have destroyed my bluetooth.
And this is HTC FAULT!!!!
now i have to send back to repair and wait another 3 weeks.