Hi,
anybody else here, who has problems with very short batterie lifetime on XDAII in O2-network especially in the south of Germany? I homebrewed a new ROM with radio 1.17 and 1.72.01 software and installed old homezone-application from 1.60 rom, but it didn't fix the batterie lifetime bug.
I called O2 service Germany and they said to me, it's a software issue and they're waiting for an update, but of course he couldn't give me a release date for the update :evil: :evil: !!!
I personal belive, it's an O2 Network problem, because it appeared two months ago. Before this I had no problems with batterie lifetime. It's definitly no rechargeable batterie issue, cause it happens with a new rech. batterie, too.
As a next step I will cook a rom without homezone application and hope the batteries will survive one night, please!
Has anybody here experiances with this problem?
Greetings
Bernhard
workaround
I found a possible workaround for this problem. In my mind the homezone application OHZ.dll is the problem for the high batterie consumption.
So it's a good idea not to install the 30032install.arm.cab from the extended rom or to rename the ohz.dll in the windows directory. The application ohz.exe can be found on \windows\v2r\ohz
As an alternative for the homezone application you can activate the homezone announcement. You can order it under 1414 "Tarfimanager" and choose the option "Tonansage".
Quote: I personal belive, it's an O2 Network problem, because it appeared two months ago. Before this I had no problems with batterie lifetime.
Can you enlighten me as to how the network can affect battery life.? :?:
The Homezone application, an expically broadcast cannel 221 prevents XDA2 going in to sleep, so the machine runs through, only with display off.
This is a bug/change of protocol of the german o2 network for 2 months now.
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As a regular contributor to various motor car forums I am always amazed at how idiots destroy perfectly serviceable cars in an attempt to 'improve' them. Anyway - today, I am one of those idiots.
I recently purchased a QTEK 2020 which I got a bit cheap on account of it not having 'iMate' written on it. Before I get really into it and put software and stuff on it, I'd like to upgrade my ROM from 1.66 to 1.72, which I have found on this site. Do I have to go through all of the xda2nbftool stuff (which I more or less understand)? Presumably yes, to change the Operator (only?). I'm quite happy for the machine to think that it is an iMate, but presumably this does not work!
I am happy with my machine. It hasn't crashed yet. But it annoys me that it might not be quite as good as yours...
(I so feel like one of those people who wants to remove his cylinder head and replace it with pineapple's to make the engine run sweeter)
i dont really understand what you are asking
are you asking
1 about changing operator and so sim locking ?
2 are you asking if you need the pretty manual xda2nbftool way to upgrade xda2's ?
3 are you asking if it will work upgrading to 1.72 ?
1 you can sim unlock your device without changing rom
a rom never require you to use a special operator but the preset settings will be the operators who put out the rom
2 yes currently it's the only way with time people are likely to make it a bit more gui like the xdatools for xda1
3 it should work but some people are reporting issues with it or maybe that was the beta of 1.72
read about the exp of others in the posts about 1.72
Sorry - it's a simple question.
If I had an iMate I could just use the RUXXX upgrade without any fuss to upgrade to 1.72
However, I have a QTEK 2020. I guess therefore I have to use xda2nbftool to modify the operator name to QTEK - otherwise it will not work (despite the 2 devices being identical). I do not want to unlock a SIM or anything else (it is unlocked by default).
Just looking for confirmation of the above paragraph!
I read about the experience of others using the 'official' 1.72 and it seems okay (better battery life etc.)
Cheers
there are 2 errors i think which stop people from just flashing their xda2 flavor with any rom update in the form of an exe file
1 is country code error if the rom is released in one country it often have a block which will stop people from upgrading their another country xda2 with it, not sure why they do that
2 maybe a form of device block so you dont upgrade your qtek with the imate
i'm sure if you had an imate and the country code dident differ you would be able to upgrade without using xda2nbftool
with time a GUI tool like xdatools for xda1 will come and you'll be able to get around all these blocks without having to type
and such
If you want to upgrade your Qtek to Imate's 1.72 ROM, yes, you need to do all that stuff.
It's actually quite simple, the description on http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/HimalayaRomFlashing is full, accurate, and is actually suited to Qtek owners without changing a single instruction.
I flashed my device (though on the first go it ended up in a dead-ish screen and I had to re-flash) and it works swimmingly.
However, you might get somewhat nervous encountering such dead-ish screens; and for good reason, flashing is dangerous after all.
Perhaps it's best to wait for a Qtek upgrade, they seem to be holding back a bit, so perhaps they're waiting to integrate WM2003 Second Edition, which should be a much larger upgrade. Also, you'll still be covered by warrantee.
If you're having specific problems with your 1.6x ROM, it could conceivably be a good idea to upgrade to the iMate ROM (using the instructions on the wiki), but if you're not having any problems, or problems that also occur in 1.72, or which are a result of 3rd party software you're using; don't bother.
You are right that QTEK seem to be a little slow in releasing anything. In fact I can't find any detailed 'official' support on QTEK outside the pages of this forum. Their website appears to be in swedish and is of very little use!
The QTEKCorporation website doesn't even list the 2020! Strange, as I understand that HTC own QTEK.
Most vendors (Expansys for example) list the 2020 as 'discontinued' (which is how I managed to negotiate a big discount!)
I tried to gatecrash club-iMate but they didn't like my IMEI number, and when I asked why not they said that they don't support my device.
I don't really care (assuming that my machine never has a problem...) and is it seems to do everything I want it to, I'll wait before updating the ROM. Maybe something will come from QTEK eventually - although I am not sure from where!!
Cheers
well qtek were the first ones out with 1.66 it came on my device before most people had gotten 1.60
beljames said:
As a regular contributor to various motor car forums I am always amazed at how idiots destroy perfectly serviceable cars in an attempt to 'improve' them. Anyway - today, I am one of those idiots.
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Who am I to contradict you? ;-)
Seriously: don't do the upgrade yet. Why?
- 1.72 has well-known problems. First, ClearType has become much worse - text just doesn't look as good as with older versions. Second, quite a few people report hangs that needed a hard reset (and cause a loss of all data). See, for example, the pages 45 - 50 of the PocketZenPhone thread in this forum. With my ROM version (1.60) I never had to hard-reset a single time. And I tried quite a few programs, some less buggy, some more buggy.
- also, although there are detailed instructions, things can always go wrong. And if that happens, you may need a bit of experience to sort them out. So wait a few more week, enjoy your device, read forums, and gain experience.
Cheers
Daniel
I have 1.72 for some time now and:
- it *never* crashed (I have to do soft reset from time to time like in any other release though, but no hang or anything)
- clear type is fixed. There's a post about a .cab to install which fixes the problem. ClearType is now great on 1.72
- my battery life improved over previous versions and I have a unit that can stand up to three days connected to my BT headset (a bluetrek G2) with me talking 2 to 3 hours a day and doing PDA stuff
so I would recommend you move on
Hi beljames, really I can understand you! I've almost destroyed a lot of good working car engines trying to "improve" them... :lol:
So: if you want to do this with your brand new QTEK 2020 go there
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=9060
and read carefully.
All worked fine for me. I upgraded from 1.66 ITA to 1.70 EN and my QTEK works perfectly!
About the cleartype problem you can find a fix in this forum: it works too.
I've also added a N2Ox system and a small turbocharger... it's a little bit heavier, yes, but it runs like a rocket! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Good balanced opinions!!
I think I'll wait a while to see if it annoys me. One single hang and I'll upgrade. Screw it up in Ghana and you don't get a lot of 1 to 1 technical support!!
By the way - I find it far easier to read the screen with Cleartype switched off (and mine is 1.66). Cleartype makes me squint!
An Loxodont - assuming that you are Italian, you will be amused to hear that the one car I used to lunch very frequently was an Alfa 33. Used to blow the inlet manifold clean off almost weekly.
- 1.72 has well-known problems. First, ClearType has become much worse - text just doesn't look as good as with older versions. Second, quite a few people report hangs that needed a hard reset (and cause a loss of all data).
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in defence of 1.72 then i have had both these issues with 1.66
Go for it....
Hi all,
just to let you know I also upgraded my Qtek 2020 from 1.66 to i-mate 1.72 following the "manual steps" to overryde the country code error and it works fine. The steps are simplier than it seems and i did it in 5 minutes. The upgrade itself is quite boring....it took almost one hour to complete the upgrade on all stacks.
One thing i can tell you: after the upgrade the device gets faster and it seems it has a "new" battery.
The cleartype prob is solved and forgotten with the right patch.
The only problem i still get is the stupid i-mate logo at startup and i can't seem to get rid of it. I want my old qtek logo back....
If i can give advise on this: Just go for it.....
Portuguese do it better....and we will win Euro2004 !
The only problem i still get is the stupid i-mate logo at startup and i can't seem to get rid of it. I want my old qtek logo back....
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maybe this guide can help you get your old pic or a new and more fancy one as bootImage
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=3759
can anyone help me with my Qtek please?it's been 4 month since i got it and every person who calls me,must call me more than once for them to reach me coz they tell me my phones always closed but i never closed my phone since 1995,only to change phones when i buy new ones!!! n.b. i have GPRS but that's not the main prob coz when i disconnect it from my line it's the same prob...!anybody? one more thing my signal is always low.places where i could have called with my 6600 nokia now with the Qtek i can't.
thanks for the help in advance guys
my personal experience when i was upgrading throu diffrent ROM's with one i noticed that i had a low signal then i upgraded to another ROM 4.01.16 and it work fine now
mine is Qtek 1010
Regards
sevag said:
can anyone help me with my Qtek please?it's been 4 month since i got it and every person who calls me,must call me more than once for them to reach me coz they tell me my phones always closed but i never closed my phone since 1995,only to change phones when i buy new ones!!! n.b. i have GPRS but that's not the main prob coz when i disconnect it from my line it's the same prob...!anybody? one more thing my signal is always low.places where i could have called with my 6600 nokia now with the Qtek i can't.
thanks for the help in advance guys
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Listen bro I can help you with something and try it on your own risk flash it with the newest IMATE Rom and RSU this would help thus the QTEK 2020 has the same hardware as the Imate get the downloads from here:
ROM+GSM:
http://www.clubimate.com/Support/RUU172126WWE_imate.exe
English Extended Rom:
http://www.clubimate.com/Support/RUU172800WWE_CDL_SKU1.exe
Arabic Extended Rom:
http://www.clubimate.com/Support/RUU172810WWE_CDL_SKU2.exe
Use the Arabic Extended Rom for arabic support in your device..Good luck now.
Hi all,
I have an orange SPV M1000, I upgraded it to:
ROM: 1.72.00WWE
RADIO VERSION: 1.14.00
Protocol VErsion:1337.24
ExtROM cerion: 1.72.126
I have installed on it:
SPB POcket PLus 2.1
Micosoft Money 2004
Flash player
Microsoft CHess
Metro
My XDAII goes dead once per week. I can only take the Battery out for a certrain amount of time so that all the internal batterie is off, then I have to reinstall everything.
Can anyone helps me to solve this problem.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Best regards,
Saadi
good for you that ur unit goes dead after a week. Maybe you should get an extra battery? U can take out your battery and still have 20 mins B4 ur internal Li-ion goes dead. All your files will be lost. Hope this might help.
ericskiXDA2 said:
good for you that ur unit goes dead after a week. .
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EXactly Mate I Carn't keep mine working for More than a Day So He has no problem! The XDA is so Usefull but the damn battery Stops you from doing anything!
Don't install pocketplus...
it caused your xda2 to be dead...
darkcell said:
Don't install pocketplus...
it caused your xda2 to be dead...
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I agree: I have the exact same issues with my QTEK2020 and the only two same softwares I installed are SPB Pocket Plus 2.1 and Flash Player.
Now, because my unit crashed so many times (about once a week as well) and after several recoveries with xBackup, some of my ~1000 contacts are no more synchronized with Outlook (i.e. they are on the PC but not on the QTEK2020). It's a real mess.
I can't rely on this PDA and I keep loosing my last inputs (new contacts, new notes, new calendar items, etc).
Does anyone know of a reliable software that would indicate the battery level in the top bar ?
franck94 said:
Does anyone know of a reliable software that would indicate the battery level in the top bar ?
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Try Battery Pack Pro
FREE DOWNLOAD !
free download, but not 'PRO'
http://www.geocities.com/budiuib
Thanks you all for your replies.
My problem is not that the battery is empty. it is a software issue.
I think it comes either for the OS or from a software installed.
Now I have the problem once per day.
Again thanks a lot for all of you.
Best regards,
Saadi
HERMIMG_O2_1.25.207.1_SHIP.nbh
http://www.o2online.de/o2/kunden/technikundeinst/exclusive/xda/xdatrion/index.html?nidx=1
did not test it yet - will do when i´m back home and have a few mins spare time
finally! thanks for the headsdup!
@dutty
give it a try please and let me (us) know if you notice any fixes or improvements
Wiki updated, and ROM moved to safe heaven in FTP:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Upgrades
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Hermes/Shipped_Complete_Updates/O2_1.25.207.1_GER.exe
Thanks guys
okay. it's flashed, i havent noticed anything different tho!
screenalignment issues are still present and there is only one new cab : suspend_resume_null.cab not sure what it does as i really see no difference.
i wonder why they never release any changelogs..
dutty said:
okay. it's flashed, i havent noticed anything different tho!
screenalignment issues are still present and there is only one new cab : suspend_resume_null.cab not sure what it does as i really see no difference.
i wonder why they never release any changelogs..
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The screen alignment issue is a hardware fault, about this problem this is the email that I have received by htc europe:
Good Afternoon,
There are now procedures in place for fixing the Screen alignment issue with the TyTN devices. This is a hardware issue that we have identified and we are offering a replacement to owners of affected devices with two conditions.
1: The device must be returned with all accompanying accessories.
Everything that was in the box when you bought the device must be in the box when you return it.
2: The device must be a Genuine HTC Badged device. This means that the device cannot be a Vodafone v1605, an O2 XDA Trion, a T-Mobile Vario II or any other device based on the TyTN, but that is not actually a TyTN. For these devices, you must contact the Network/Reseller for further advice on this issue.
If you meet these two provisions, you may contact your nearest repair centre to arrange the swap. Please place everything back into the original box and arrange to have the device picked up. It will then be tested to confirm that it has the problem, and then it will be swapped for a replacement unit.
If you are unable to return everything, you will be eligible for a repair under the warranty. For this also, you can contact your nearest repair centre to arrange this.
I must note that this email is a standard answer. Other people have received the same email.
Hi,
does it exist O2 English ROM yet ?
Hello,
can anyone tell me the version and date from the file SAPSettings.exe in the windows-directory from the new O2-Update?
Thanks
Mad_M said:
Hi,
does it exist O2 English ROM yet ?
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No at moment o2 uk doesnt sell the trion.
You can find it only in o2 german
It is possible create a MUI for this Rom?
OK i am again disappointed from this O2 sh*t realease.
The GPRS/UMTS Radio disconnects itself and i have to hard resed my device again. Now i know why i moved away from the O2 ROM. I flashed my device back to the updated O2 ROM in hope the issue was only a temporary problem and will be fixed in the new update but its not.
I am considering to replace my device. With this problem i cant live for much longer time.
Overall i am a lot more unsatisfied with the TRION. The Wizard from Cingular didnt had those major issues and performed very well. It doesnt matter if the TRION has a 400 Mhz CPU inside compared to the Wizard it works more worse and I am going back to use my Wizard until O2 has a stable release of the TRION ROM. :evil:
EXT_ROM keypad .cab
Hey,
does anybody knows which .cab from O2 Ext_ROM is for keypad (phone dialer) layout and colors ?
Tnx
http://rapidshare.com/files/43432242/RUU_Hermes_O2_DE_3.54.207.2_6275_1.47.00.00_108_Ship.rar
here is officail wm 6 o2 germany
Hi all
I just wanted your views on what to do with my Qtek 8500.
I'm about to buy a brand new Qtek 8500 sim free for £65.
I just wanted to know exactly how i should proceed in regards to upgrading it to the latest ROM and WM6 with the newest radio for the best coverage. This includes any spl things and CID unlocking (though i do wonder is it CID unlocked due to it being sim unlocked?)
Any thoughts and suggestions on how i proceed would be greatly welcomed.
Thanks all
Dan
Had a look around and decided to get a I-mate smartflip, now from what i have read its the exact same as a Qtek 8500 except the name on the front and a few screens and software changes but still the same WM5.
However as this has a smaller ROM as the 3125, will installing the clean edition of the WM6 rom here work well or will the phone be really really slow?
I'm aware i will have to CID unlock the phone and that looks simple according to this forum but any points on how to flash the new radio also off the WM6 page would be helpful.
Thanks
Hey, good to here another joining in the STRTRK parade lol
I got the Qtek 8500 from expansys about a week ago to supplement my tytn 2 (for the £65 bargain!) and have since cid unlocked and installed Erofish's WM6 rom, the latest version also includes Office 6.1 which is very handy, I thoughrally recommended it, it runs very fast and very stable, its made the phone so much better. with just windows mobile 5 it felt old and horrid but now it feels great, its even a bit faster. I'd go for it, the grace of winmo 6 is great
I've just updated my MTeoR to WM6 and thats brought it back into life too. thanks for replying, as a new user i am insterested to see what you think of the battery life?
As a previous windows smartphone user i am used to charging up the phone every night, is that something we have to get used to with the StrTrk ?
thanks again
My 3125 lasted 3-4 days between charges, with moderate use. If you are talking 4-5 hours a day on ANY cell phone you will probably have to charge it daily. Also, there are two battery sizes (I don't know which size the 8500 has). The larger battery has a back cover that is not completely flat. This is the battery I had (standard on the 3125). The small battery will probably only last 2/3 as long.
Jozer99 said:
I don't know which size the 8500 has
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Qtek 8500 has 750mAh battery
Cingular 3125 has 1100mAh battery
Mine arrived today and I got WM6 on it... following the various guides here - only to discover that the internal speaker doesn't work!
did you buy a qtek 8500 or the smartflip as its cheaper?
also which WM6 did you go for? the one with working GPRS or the other one that doesn't work with GPRS ?
I bought the qtek as the imate wasn't on expansys list yesterday... and I went for the Gnatgosplat light rom - and gprs worked fine on that.
Mines arrived, i am pleased with it, didn't realise that the keypad was so huge but overall impressed. just gotta find the time to put WM6 on it now.
Just pruchased a 950 mAh battery off ebay for my new imate smartflip, which i love by the way!!
anyone got one of these batteries running and if so how much more charge can i expect over the 750mAh?
thanks