mr edsubsoft - MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development

how do i set IIWPO so that it doesnt show on the "remove programs list"?
i know you had developed a software to do this, but your software has t-mobile customizations.... i am using o2 sir.. please help
Z

One other thing, I just installed the 1.72.902 load and the IIWPO is in the remove list of the applications. Also the ext rom version # doesn't show up???

@Z-man: The removal of IIWPO from the remove prgrams list is done by a cab in my 1.72.902 package called edsubsoft.cab.
It simply removes the appropiate registry keys.
You will have to add that cab to your config.txt in order to run it after every hard reset.
@Dataphd: See original thread for answers.
I will look into this as a bug in the registry file COULD give the result from it to not run at all. One other function of edsubsoft.cab is to set the ext rom # . . . .

from what i know, your edsubsoft.cab has T-mobile customizations right? wont that affect my system? im using i-mate rom (waxx's) 1.72 with a cooked Ext. ROm

I made a mistake in answering you. Plz see the 1.72.902 thread for more info.
To be short: Its not the eDsuBsofT.cab but the Version_172_902.cab that makes IIWPO un-installable (it also makes Customization Tools un-installable and sets the ExtROM version).

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Totorial: XDAII Extended-Rom

I had a hard time to upgrade and modify my xda2 so I decided to make a small tutorial for everyone with the information’s I found on the forum. It’s not perfect but it could help.
Thank's to every one who made all this possible!!
Before starting I recommend every one to make a back-up of your rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=4608
1- Extended Rom:
Your XDA2 has an Invisible Extended Rom in the device containing the operator’s configuration files and software.
Modifying it will allow you to customize the boot image and to choose the programs you wish to install during the setup of the device.
To show the extended rom on your device your need to apply this small hack and then open your file explorer:
http://www.ppcw.net/index.php?itemid=1638
2- Files contained in the Extend Rom:
Broadcast_WWE.sa.CAB:
Seems to only set the CellBroadcast setting to enabled or disabled. (I guess this refers to the Reception of News via SMS by selecting channels of interested. Quite expensive I think and only interesting for phones that do not have any other capabilities of receiving and displaying information).
T-Mobile NL sets it on, with O2 it's switched off.
CallerIDRC11_WWE_1.5.sa.CAB:
Installs the CallerID application from IA Style and the Photo Contacts extension. There are other programs that are able to provide this functionality but I use it.
CameraRC131_WWE_1.5.sa.CAB:
The camera application for taking pictures and recording videos. AFAIK there is currently no alternative to this one, you should leave it in your ROM.
GPRSMonitor_WWE.sa.CAB:
Includes the GPRS Monitor from SPB Soft. Very useful I would recommend it unless you aren't going to use GPRS anyway.
MIDI56.sa.CAB:
RingTone plugin player. Allow you to play back RingTones in the following formats: mid,3gp,mp4. Also seems to register the audio/midi MIME type for playback of midi files directly from Internet Explorer.
By default the XDA can play back only wav and wma audio files (AFAIK)
MMS1507_WWE.sa.CAB:
Installs the Arcsoft MMS application for composing and sending MMS messages.
VideoMMS.sa.CAB (not contained in Qtek):
Installs the "Video MMS.exe" file into the Windows folder. When you start it you are in camera mode immediately and after you have recorded a picture or video you get into MMS composition mode.
This seems to be just an easier way to compose MMS messages since the main MMS Application (see above) is already able to compose MMS messages.
OEM_AKU1_WWE_4AP.sa.CAB (named OEM_4AP_WWE.CAB in Qtek ROM)
Installs the following files: GPRSAuthentication.exe, BTSetting.exe, STK.exe and WModem.exe
I am not sure if these are customized versions or if the normal ROM doesn't contain them. Well perhaps not because these are specific to the Phone edition so they can't be present in the main ROM, maybe they are contained in the Radio ROM, but probably they are only contained here, meaning you shouldn't remove this cab file.
OEM_WWE_03120301.sa.CAB (named OEM_WWE_03122301.sa.CAB in Qtek ROM)
Installs files for Bluetooth: AudioGW.dll, BthASPlugIn.dll, rilgsm.dll, Serial3.dll and Wavedev.dll. Also contains the new feature of mapping a (dynamic) serial port for BT.
I think you should not remove it.
TM_phone_class10.CAB (not contained in Qtek):
Installs several registry settings regarding phone functionality. (See my other post regarding this topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=5539)
TMCOMREG.sa.CAB (not contained in Qtek):
Contains some of the settings contained in the previous one anyway. I'm not sure if it does anything else but I don't think so.
TMD_AP_NL.sa.CAB (not contained in Qtek):
Implements several settings specific to T-Mobile (NL): Restricts video types for MMS. Adds connection and gateway settings for MMS connection via T-Mobile NL. Adds a T-Mobile profile to GPRS Monitor.
I would not install this cab unless you live in NL!
TMD_NL.sa.CAB (not contained in Qtek):
Sets the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\3rdversion\MSYSTEM1 value to the provider name.
Not required!
TMDNLCustomize.sa.CAB (not contained in Qtek):
Adjusts all the "theming" stuff: Changes colors, installs Today-theme, installs T-Mobile Dialpad, sets T-Mobile ringtone.
If you don't like you xda2 look like a pink pig you should leave this out.
(You can extract single items from the cab file if you like)
t-mobile_shortcuts_only(UK).PPC2002_ARM.CAB (not contained in Qtek):
Contains some strange things that seem to me rather useless: "WebDisplayText t-zones", "T-Mobile Resetter.exe", "T-Mobile PIE Launcher.exe", "TMobileWebToday.dll", "T-Mobile Homepage Plugin".
I wouldn't install this one!
Version_AKU1.sa.CAB (Version_AKU1_160.sa.CAB in Qtek):
Seems to only set the version number of the extended ROM in the registry.
3- Modifying and editing your Extended Rom:
Most of the latest XDA2 have a write protected Extended Rom
A) For NOT Write Protected Extended Rom:
If your XDA2 Extended Rom is not write protected just add the new files you want, you can find on the forum many different extend rom files (O2, T_Mobile, Orange) and kitchen your own extended Rom by adding the cab files directly in the Extended_rom directory and soft reset.
B) For Write Protected Extended Rom:
The only way for the moment (until we find a way to make the rom writable) is to use the upgrade programs used by the operators and ER2003Edit program.
1)- Download
http://www.c1au.com/iMatePDAROMS/ruu15283.zip
or
http://www.clubimate.com/Support/ruu113sku1.zip
2) Simply unpack the complete T-Mobile Rom update file (it's a zipped EXE) into a folder.
There you will find these 6 files:
- HimaClearJumpCode.exe
- HimaGetDeviceData.exe
- HimaUpgradeUt.exe
- ms_.nbf <----- this is the file which holds Ext Rom!
- NK.nbf (main rom)
- Radio_.nbf (radio rom)
3) Delete the other *.nbf files to prevent updating the full XDA2/MDA2 rom. You only need "ms_.nbf" and the "*.exe" files!
4) Now modify the ms_.nbf with the tool softworkz kindly provided.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/ER2003Edit
5) After this, install the modified ext-rom to your XDA2/MDA2 by starting "HimaUpgradeUt.exe" and follow the instructions!
6) If you get a country code error during the install you will need to modify the country code included in the ms_.nbf file
- Download xda2nbftool
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=5563
- Put xda2nbftool.exe in the same folder as your ms_.nbf file
- Run xda2nbftool.exe from Command Prompt and type the following command
xda2nbftool.exe -so O2 -v ms_.nbf
Replace O2 by your operator’s name (ex: orange, O2 etc)
It should now work!
cheers,
Yann
nice one Yann
Thanks
I had a go at doing the "if your extended rom is protected"
I down loaded the file
1)- Download
http://www.c1au.com/iMatePDAROMS/ruu15283.zip
and accidentally ran it.... I know I was stupid... I now have an I-Mate instead of a XDA - O2. Please help can I get the O2 back is there a programme that does the same as the one I just have used. It has changed every thing the radio stack, the other bits of software, I am just pleased it still works of calls.
I couldn’t find the indivuiual HimaUpgradeUt.exe programme any ware.
Please help I am really stuck at the minute!!
The bit I didn’t understand was the bit about unpack the exe. Which I now understand how to do. Although I have upgraded to Rom 1.52.00wwe, radio version 1.06.01, I can haply say I have the original O2 rom back in place with additional programmes installed in the Ex-Rom. I had a fair bit of space so I popped some music files in as well!!!!
Thanks for all the help!!!!
thanks yann for the perfect summary
as newby i needed something clear like this to dare my first rom changes, and i successfully did!
it would be even more perfect if also somehow the program settings/passwords could be cooked in/restored from the extended rom. i searched the forum but could not find any hints.
Are there methods for this ?
Perhaps a silly question, but I'm fairly conservative when it comes to messing around with my device.
How do you find out or know if your Ext ROM is write protected or not? I know that I can add applications to my Ext ROM and it does not seem like I should be able to do that if it's write protected, but then again I'm not sure if this matters.
Ed
ed, if you can copy files to your ext-rom via activesync, it is per definition not write-protected.
your not that conservative, because you already run a tool or edited the registry to be able to see the ext-rom
ronald,
Well I guess you are right I do like to play around, as I get more comfortable doing so. It is this Forum, guys like you, and some other forums that have made this possible for me to do. For some reason I'm more comfortable in general hacking around a desktop pc than a PPC.
I thought my Ext ROM must not be write protected. When I deleted the TMD files, described here as useless, I got the message that they were read only, but they did go away from the Ext ROM Folder. I do not notice a big difference, however, nor did it free up that much memory. I was thinking that I might need to do more then this. Do I?
So basically, if my Ext ROM is not right protected, and I have been already loading programs into the Ext ROM, I’m pretty much at the place people are trying to get with the Ext ROM Cook ER...Edit. Is that correct or am I missing something here?
Ed
Ed,
I do not like flashing rom (or bios) on either my desktop or PDA (if not absolute sure to fix bugs). However flashing the PDA's ext-rom can basically not screw up the PDA because you don't touch the OS, so I flashed the ext-rom to get familiar with the PDA flashing in general (and also to have a restore of my standard used software after a hard-reset).
About your ext-rom; I do not recognise your situation. I would say if it is read-only the file will not disappear (like with my PDA).
I did notice while editing the ext-rom file for flashing that the file is fixed ~16MB, regardless of which cab's are included or deleted.
Maybe this is the same effect that you see when deleting the file in the ext-rom ???????? (although I can imagine both effects have no relation)
ronald
Camera Programs
Okay,
I made a custom ROM with the following programs:
CAB: \Extended_ROM\CameraRC131_WWE_1.5.sa.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\CallerIDRC11_WWE_1.5.sa.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\MMS1507_WWE.sa.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\GPRSMonitor_WWE.sa.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\Version_AKU1.sa.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\OEM_AKU1_WWE_4AP.sa.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\OEM_WWE_03120301.sa.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\VideoMMS.sa.CAB
Awesome, alot less bloat, but.... Camera doesn't work.. Application says Camera is not a valid Pocket PC application. :: grumble ::
Did I miss something?? Camera.exe is there, but doesn't work
Brandon
My Ext ROM is not write protected, and I'm able to run applications in the EXT ROM Folder. I deleted the 2 TMD and the T-Mobile cab files, but I have not nticed a big difference, nor is my GPRS back to always on, which it should be now.
Perhaps the device requires another hard reset without these cab files in place prior to the changes taking actual effect. Does anyone know if my assumption is accurate about the required hard reset?
Ed
what dictates if the ExtROM is write protected or not? is it the version? or the hardware itself? or a mix of the version with the OS checks?
cuz i believe the ROM version is dictated by the version_AKU1.sa.cab. does that mean we can hack the cab (or use a diff version) to disable the write protection?
i'm using a himalaya btw.
I have a question or two.
I'd also like to know if it is possible to modify CAB files so they install an application and then also put in your purchased key or serial depending on the application so it's already registered to yourself. It seems like it must be possible because the GPRS Monitor on the T-Mobile Extended ROM is already Registered when you try and register it yet I was under the impression it normally has to have a key entered to turn it into the full version with no limits.
This would be great if this was possible, if it's a key file then it's simple to copy it over but how about automatic registry entries? Are these done similar to Windows .reg files? Does anyone have any info if a .reg file can be make and run from the Extended ROM to make changes to the registry? This would also allow me to key in a few other things I'd like presetup.
Is there a way to see what registry changes a CAB file makes other than from purchasing MagicCAB? Is there a free program like this? It seems like a reasonable program from the info but I don't want to spend 10 dollars on a program I might only use once or twice.
Acutally, one more while I'm here. Does anyone have a CAB installation version of CabInstl which puts a shortcut in the Programs or an easy way for me to make that? I've set it up so it will copy the EXE in manually along with a shortcut but I've yet to try it. I think it should work OK I imagine, just might be neater and have an uninstall if it's in a CAB format?
Can you delete files from the extended ROM script? Just so I can clear out a few folders of things I don't want in there when I do a hard reset?
Thanks for all your help. I'm looking forward to making a super kick ass Extended ROM for myself, I'm half way there
Updating the indirect way
Had a few problems with the updating process... and thought i would explain how I got around them!
First I updated to the standard 16007DE ROM
Then I installed the Extended Rom Viewer, and then because it is protected, i copied the contents to my HDD.
Then i tried to open the Rom update from T-mobile with the Extended ROM editor, but kept on getting file access errors The only one i could open was the NL 13006 version. So I changed the splash screen, deleted the origianl contents, and then inserted the contents from my updated original Extended ROM, as well as a few other bits that i could find, IE the extended ROM viewer. It is updating at the moment, So I hope it all works.
I have a few questions though!
Does anyone know a way in which I can automatically install a few themes, and a few ringtones? I have a few MIDI files that i want to be installed into the windows\rings folder, and the themes need to go in a folder called themes in My Documents. I also wanted to ask if there is a way to extract the CAB from another program, for instance Voice Commander. It is an MSI, but only works in windows!!!
Any help would be greatly appreciated...
Greets from Hannover, Germany
Juggs :?
Is this going to work:
- Download ER2003Edit
- Download the O2 XDA2 ROM 1.60.50
- Download the T-Mobile MDA2 ROM 1.60.36
- Remove O2 apps i don't want to use
- Add applications from T-mobile rom which i want to use
- Change ROM provider from O2 rom to to T-Mobile
- Save new O2 ROM and upgrade
But... I want to add custom ring tones to contacts, and if possible also want to add custom picture. Also my camera must be able to work. Which software do i need for this?
Because.. All i want to upgrade is today theme to O2's and also the software to 1.60.50... Does the O2 rom also has an "TMDNLCustomize.sa.CAB" ?
Greek full support language for qtek 2020
Hello,
this is a very intresting site!
Can anyone tell me is exist & where can i dinf an extended rom for qtek 2020 with full support of greek language?
Also there any newer version than the 1.66.00 wwe extended1.66.130 radio 1.10.00 wihich my qtek 2020 has??
best regards
george
A) For NOT Write Protected Extended Rom:
If your XDA2 Extended Rom is not write protected just add the new files you want, you can find on the forum many different extend rom files (O2, T_Mobile, Orange) and kitchen your own extended Rom by adding the cab files directly in the Extended_rom directory and soft reset.
B) For Write Protected Extended Rom:
The only way for the moment (until we find a way to make the rom writable) is to use the upgrade programs used by the operators and ER2003Edit program.
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2 questions for you,
1. how do i know whether my rom is the editable 1 or the non editable one?
2. I tried option A, just mergly adding the CAB files into the EXTROM but... when the hard reset was perform it did not install the CAB files i added in? what could be the prob i know there is a "autorun.exe" in it but i dunno whether will it affect the process. I also notice a "config.txt" in the extrom, tried editing it but it seems that nothing happen
Reason for adding the cab files is because i was using a 1.72.00 rom with radio stack 1.12 but intend to change it to radio stack 1.14 and also try cooking up my own rom in the ktchen but after doin so its like nothing happen. need some advice for cooking roms in the kitchen been searching the forum... found a few but its all talking about Linux platform.
Hi Kelvin,
1)
The way to know if your rom is not writ protected is if you see a folder called extended_rom in the root of XDAII and if you can add files in it.
If not, there’s a nice tool to make the extended_rom visible and to make it writable.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=8422&highlight=extended+rom+hide
2) The config.txt is made to lunch the programs in the extended rom when you hard reset the XDA or when it starts for the first time.
You just need to put the cab files in your extended_rom folder and edit the config.txt this way:
Exemple:
I added the cab file vxIPConfig.ppc3_arm.CAB in the folder extended_rom
and added this line in config.txt
CAB: \Extended_ROM\vxIPConfig.ppc3_arm.CAB
Cheers,
Yann
hi yann,
i tried doing that way as i figured out that config is like a startup "prg" to actually start the programs installing when hard reset is performed. But the thing is i cannot make the programs i added in the install after the hard reset is perform. I don't know why but the rest of the cab files can be done. Do adding of all this cab files into the ROM consider cooking ROM??? not really fimilar with the terms of cooking ROM unless that is the way.

O2 settings on an XDA with the T-mobile 1.72 Beta ROM

I have installed the T-mobile 1.72 Beta ROM update on my O2 XDA. Everything has installed just fine and it appears to be working great. The addition of the Fax module is really welcome although a little buggy has allowed me to send a number of faxes.
The BT stack now gives me an extra option on my Widcom BT software on my desktop pc. It seems much more stable than the O2 stack.
My only problem is that all my MMS, SMS, GPRS and WAP settings are for T-Mobile UK and not O2 Ireland. I have tried to enter them manually with little success.
After reading through some of the other threads would it be possible to take the relevant cab files from an O2 1.60 (latest ROM) Extended ROM and copy them onto my PDA and then run them to install the settings? I also miss the O2 Active screen and would like to install that as well. If this is possible could and please tell me that it is!!!! Would someone be kind enough to send me the relevant Cab files?
Many thanks in advance for any help or advice.
Paul
I think its posted on this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=8515
On page 2. There is a modified extendend rom.
Thanks for the mail
I have downloaded the extended ROM that you mentioned but it seems to just contain the T-Mobile stuff. I would like a copy of the O2 Extended ROM if possible and just install the O2 settings and Active.
Thanks
Paul
If you have an old backup, you can replace that with the new one you have now. And then runt the desired CAB files (Camera, mms, andsoon) from the new 1.72 upgrade.
Here you go mate...
Attached is a ZIP file, containing a folder.
In it, are ALL the O2 files found in an O2 Extended ROM, as per 1.60.00 ROM Upgrade, O2 WWE.
I am not sure exactly which CAB is the settings file (can anyone tell me what the GPRS settings file CAB is called in an extended ROM), so you will have to find it yourself.
It also includes the O2 Active stuff.
Hope it helps.
Download it quick, becuase I'm not sure the legalities of posting it here, and also its a big file, so using up a lot of my space, so I wanna delete it soon.
Thanks
Thanks Shadamehr
I downloaded the ROM ran the Cabs and I now have O2 connection settings and O2 active. Thank you so much.
My next project is to copy the o2 files to the extended 1.72 ROM so that if I require a hard reset it will install the O2 stuff and the newer 1.72 files etc.
Out of interest the application for unhiding and unlocking the Extended ROM requires the sending of "arguments" how do you do this on Pocket PC. i am familiar with doing this on a desktop PC. Any help would again be appreciated.
Thanks to you all.
Paul
Re: Thanks
Pastor said:
Thanks Shadamehr
I downloaded the ROM ran the Cabs and I now have O2 connection settings and O2 active. Thank you so much.
My next project is to copy the o2 files to the extended 1.72 ROM so that if I require a hard reset it will install the O2 stuff and the newer 1.72 files etc.
Out of interest the application for unhiding and unlocking the Extended ROM requires the sending of "arguments" how do you do this on Pocket PC. i am familiar with doing this on a desktop PC. Any help would again be appreciated.
Thanks to you all.
Paul
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Er, you've totally lost me mate.
For the Unlocker, all I do, is copy the cab file for it over to my XDA2, then use File Manager on the XDA2 to locate the file, and click to run.
This installs it.
Then, if you go into programs, there is a new folder, next to games, for the extRom tools.
Open that, and you can hide/unhide, and lock/unlock the extended ROM.
It sometimes requires a soft reboot.
When it is unlcoked and unhidden, you can simply delete all files in it, and copy the whole O2 folder contents into it that I posted.
Then, after a hard reset, it will install all the programs in the extended rom.
Not sure what all these 'argument' things are you mention mate, sorry.
Sorted!!!
Did not see the programme group had been using the application via the file explorer and it was asking for "arguments". Thanks for the help.
Paul

Custom ExtROM Issues

Hi all, i normally make custom roms for our devices but am having issues with this one, its about to be the 1st Hermes in space [coz i am gonna strap it to a firework and send it skyward ]. I have the ExtROM unhider, i remove all the rubbish, i add my custom read-only cab's [all signed btw] edit my config.txt, then hard reset the device. All looks ok on the loading stage, you see my cabs being called and run, but they move on to the next file far to fast, and when i check the programs installed after, its not there, so its skipping the cab files. No errors on load, nothing, if u run the files manually they work but i did noticed they say "Unknown Publisher" on the certificate part of the install. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to overcome this please.
Thank you in advance
EViLOPTiC
Hermes startup is full security mode. Your CABS need to be signed by a trusted root CA and you might even need the more secure provider level signature (although I'm not sure of this).
V1605
Hey EViLOPTiC,
IK see you are having the same problem as I'm having with my V1605.
I had a Qtek 9000 before did the ext Rom modification had no problem, I had a Signed disable security cab which I run in the cab first then all the another after no problem.
Now with this pda the signed cab still says it is not signed I've tryed anothe 3 another disable security cab but with the same issue.
All we need is a signed cab file that well modify the register 0000101a from 1 to 0 put that in the Extended Rom followed by all the another cab file we want to install.
Where can we find this cab.
PLEASE SOMEONE HELP US PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Thanks
Gigino

Different language packs for the Mogul?

Hi everyone. Just wondering if there's any possible (preferably free) way to get other language packs/fonts on the mogul. I was looking a japanese website and got frustrated when 90% of it was in block form....=(
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
You want type/read Japanese on your mogul? I am a Japanese, so I can help you
First, do you cook your own ROM or do you use pre-built ROM?
If you cook your own ROM, this method will be far more stable:
Method 1 (stable) (designed to work only with dcd kitchen...)
Extract WinCENLS_WWE.zip to your kitchen's SYS directory, overwriting the WinCENLS_WWE directory and all the files inside. Make sure wince.nls was overwritten or else you will fail.
Extract Localize_Japanese.zip to your kitchen's OEM directory, and when you go to build a ROM, ensure that "Localize Japanese" is checked in BuildOS as an option under heading "Localizations" (it should be at bottom).
If you have any failure about SIP, hive file, etc... please don't continue and tell me about your trouble and we can go from there. This will NOT work with any other software that make use of SIP type "IME" like HTC xT9 IME keyboard... make sure only one "IME" type software will be installed.
Now, I can't make the IME.cab file into an OEM package. I tried, and fail. If you can make an OEM of it that will work by dcd and other files in the localization, great - and please send me a copy! But, I don't think it can work right now. Anyway, after burn this new ROM to your Titan, launch IME.cab through your SDconfig.txt file.. that way, everytime hard reset will happen, you will not have to think, "Oh, I need to install IME before I can use my phone."
Files:
Localize_Japanese.zip
IME.cab
Alt WinCENLS_WWE.zip location
Method 2 (unstable)
Install asukal's version of this by making use of his program called usemynls.exe which patches wince.nls to another wince.nls from a ROM already built with the 0409 version of the file. This causes system instability and often times you cannot send or receive more than 2 or 3 text messages without causing the machine to need a soft reset. It's highly annoying and not at all correct. But, it works - sort of.
Here is files:
AsukalLetsJapanNo6
IME
Goodluck with method 2 if you do decide to use it...
arigatou gozaimashita!
kondo ROM-wo cook suru toki, Method 1-wo tsukatte-mimasu!
Thank you very much for the info, illuminarok. I'll see if i can make an OEM and get back to you. Thanks again!

What is a Hard or Soft SPL

I allreyd flashed a lot and did use a soft spl, but I do not find a proper
explanation what it is.
So, i Think it is the Bootloader ?
Can anyone tell me what a soft and a hard SPL is and does ?
For what do I need it ?
I just got my new Touch Pro bought in UK and now it is here in Germany and I want a german ROM on it as soon as it is available.
Please don´t write your standard answers like WIKI and Search - a forum is here for communication and I did not find the proper answers - only too long threats
Greetings
Marcus
69reichertm said:
....So, i Think it is the Bootloader ?...
....Can anyone tell me what a soft and a hard SPL is and does ?....
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Yep your right on that assumption sir The bootloader does alot of the low level handling of the startup process when you power on the device aswell as handling the process when you flash anything to the device...im sure its far more technical than that but thats a starter explanation Essentially you NEED a bootloader for the device to work at all, the case with many of the HTC devices...other devices are different most likely.
Soft SPL: (normally referred to as SSPL) IS loaded into RAM and allows you to perform some of the operations the standard bootloader would do, naturally with some extra functionality (explained later)
HardSPL: Same sort of thing except it is flashed to the device permenantly, so it replaces the HTC bootloader in your devices flash memory.
Both of these tend to safeguard against corrupting the device by having some fancy workarounds and updates to the processes built into the HTC SPL, and the best part is that they allow you to flash ANY ROM you wish therefor allowing us to use Cooked ROMs and various updates like radio updates and etc...frees the device up quite superbly.
69reichertm said:
Please don´t write your standard answers like WIKI and Search - a forum is here for communication and I did not find the proper answers - only too long threads
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Perhaps some mebers feel like adding a general HardSPL page to the wiki for FAQs like this to be answered better than "Search the forum.." since we know its not that good for finding anything.
The Wiki is there for everyone to use and edit so, learn and pass it on
Just a quick question, does any of this interfere with HTC released updated ROMs? Like, when they release a new version on their site, does having HardSPL prevent you from updating?
Hello !
Thank you for your advise.
One more question:
Should I install Hard or Soft SPL ?
I want to try out many ROMS - I think Hard is better, what do you mean ?
Thank you for your help
By the way:
I am a kind of technican - working in IT for nearly 18 years starting fron Novell, Banyan Vines and DOS up to Windows Vista. Also I am a kind of apple Guru, thats why I have certainly an iPhone 2G and 3G.
For business I use HTC devices sind the first MDA. But I lost track a little sind iPhone.
As I am a technic nerc I sstarted with th the Diamond touch again and I liked the device but i swapped this week to the touch pro because of the keyboard, SD Slot an flash light. I love this device.
By the way I also have the new Samsung Omnia 900 here and an unfun Nokia E71 ( I hate this old symbian - looks like last centuty )
So good night and thank you
Marcus
Jiggs1337 said:
Just a quick question, does any of this interfere with HTC released updated ROMs? Like, when they release a new version on their site, does having HardSPL prevent you from updating?
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no, raphael hardspl is unsigned, means any rom is allowed, including HTC official roms.
69reichertm said:
One more question:
Should I install Hard or Soft SPL ?
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you can only install hardspl. the job of soft spl is to install hardspl.
do not ever try any of the following:
- with SSPL, do not flash anything other than the included SPL NBH files. as extra protection the diamond and raphael SSPL's require htchacker sign (except the version jocky edited) and will reject anything that's not an SPL.
- and do not ever try to flash SSPL as an NBH, especially if it is a diamond or raphael.
Im sorry to disagree with your "don't tell me to use the Wiki".
But this is a fairly comprehensive answer to your question: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=SPL Questions? straight out the wiki.
Ta
Dave
When flashing a new ROM, do u lose all ur settings? Like installed programs, and other customizations?
Do you lose these by installing Hard-SPL?
Jiggs1337 said:
When flashing a new ROM, do u lose all ur settings? Like installed programs, and other customizations?
Do you lose these by installing Hard-SPL?
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Yes - Everything Goes.
No.
Ta
Dave
Thanks Dave.
So what do you guys do? Just reinstall everything one by one after you've flashed the new ROM?
Jiggs1337 said:
Thanks Dave.
So what do you guys do? Just reinstall everything one by one after you've flashed the new ROM?
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There are several things.
UC is short for User Customisation; it is in all the Kaiser ROM's nowadays. l3v5y's Raph ROMs also have it.
Links: l3v5y's ROMs & Main UC Thread.
I use UC to install programs, Provisioning XML (as part of UC) to change registry settings, my xcopyce application to copy folders and active sync to copy contacts, calender etc.
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Dave
Ok, thanks. Seems very complicated. Having to write XML files and such.
when running RaphaelHardSPL-Unsigned_190_1_3.exe, it says all information will be lost on my device. Are you sure i dont lose everything when installing Hard-SPL?
Jiggs1337 said:
Ok, thanks. Seems very complicated. Having to write XML files and such.
when running RaphaelHardSPL-Unsigned_190_1_3.exe, it says all information will be lost on my device. Are you sure i dont lose everything when installing Hard-SPL?
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I can't say. I haven't done it, what says you will lose all the info, the RUU or the thread? If it's the RUU, then you should be OK, it's probably the standard message that the proper RUU (used for carrier ROM upgrades) has.
UC is good, takes maybe an hour or two to get setup, but once done, you don't have to do it again and it makes flashing so much fun. I started with just installing CAB's and Copying files, then went onto ProvXML for my registry settings next. The latest version of Schap's Advanced Config (3.0) can export tweaks into a Prov XML file for you. It is worth it if you flash your ROM as often as I do.
Dave
I do love this kind of stuff. Any new gadget i get, i like to do this kinda stuff with it. But its a little overwhelming in this case .
So, using UC, i can set it up so that my settings, such as email accounts, wifi networks + passes, notify settings, etc, as well as all the programs are restored after a ROM flash?
To do this i have to manually go through my registry to find the entries for each of these settings though? No way to just extract my current unflashed devices settings to a file that the new ROMs then use? That would be nice
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I do love this kind of stuff. Any new gadget i get, i like to do this kinda stuff with it. But its a little overwhelming in this case .
So, using UC, i can set it up so that my settings, such as email accounts, wifi networks + passes, notify settings, etc, as well as all the programs are restored after a ROM flash?
To do this i have to manually go through my registry to find the entries for each of these settings though? No way to just extract my current unflashed devices settings to a file that the new ROMs then use? That would be nice
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We are getting a little off topic of the OP now but...
Any tweaks done with schaps Advanced Config can be easiler exported using a "export" menu option.
If you export your registry after flashing, and again after you have all your settings setup right, you can Diff then using a Diff Program and copy the changes into your ProvXML file. Most PPC Regedit programs can export.
Any more on UC, I'd have a read of the UC thread and ask any questions in there. Myself and l3v5y keep and eye on it most of the time and should be able to help fairly quickly.
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Dave
Hello
So my Threat became quite interesting.
One last question foe me.
What File should I download to HARD SPL my Touch Pro.
Is there a file which includes all ? I mean I do not have to modify files inside the cabinet or so ?
Is there a fast link ?
Thank you for all the help - now lets start using the Touch - weekend is near
69reichertm said:
Hello
So my Threat became quite interesting.
One last question foe me.
What File should I download to HARD SPL my Touch Pro.
Is there a file which includes all ? I mean I do not have to modify files inside the cabinet or so ?
Is there a fast link ?
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lol, sure, there is only one package, and you simply click the EXE and it goes
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410150
Is it possible to use those backup softwares? Like Spb Backup for example that say "ROM Upgrade Mode — now it's possible to restore data after the ROM upgrade"? Instead of UC and such?
there is a IPL initial program loader (sort of bios)
a SPL secondary program loader (kinda like the ntloader)
and there is a service mode (3 color screen) (the flashprog)
then we have a RUU remote unit upgrader
mft masterfile table
mbr master boot record
and some other shizzle
the device switches the output of the internal usb when device is in 3 colorscreen to a service mode which allows it to overwrite the internal flashdrive .. pretty neat as what it actually does is switching to an internal flashprogrammer which programs the internal flashdrive. this is the same process as is used for your pc at home to update the bios.
the CID celloperator identification code (used for blocking certain rom upgrades)
enjoy..
Soft SPL quesiton
I have a SPV M700 and it's unlocked. I want to install Schaps rom. I have the folowing SPL version 1.07.000. I have't managed to install hard spl. Can I use soft spl to flash it? Can I permanently brake it?

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