I was very very happy when I saw 2003SE last week and I tried every version of it, incl. chinese one, but now I give up becouse it's not stable "NOT STABLE AT ALL" right now my PPC is so death as a peace of rock and when it starts after 100 times of softreset then it's freezes after 10 seconds...
So I'm going to flash it with off. v1.7 + ROM 1.18 and I'll wait one more month and see whats happening then....
Thanks you guys for your hard work
There seems to be alot of different experiences depending on the version of bootloader you have. I have version 1.06 and SE works like a charm, except for ONE anoying bug.
It simply wont ring when someone calls me.
Other than that, im very satisfied.
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There seems to be alot of different experiences depending on the version of bootloader you have. I have version 1.06 and SE works like a charm, except for ONE anoying bug.
It simply wont ring when someone calls me.
Other than that, im very satisfied.
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anoying bug,It simply wont ring when someone calls me
It happent to me also, because I edit the register
so no sound, Think I take out the default ring tone
uninstall wisbar or pocketplus, soft-reset and check it out.
uninstall wisbar or pocketplus, soft-reset and check it out.
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I was very very happy when I saw 2003SE last week and I tried every version of it, incl. chinese one, but now I give up becouse it's not stable "NOT STABLE AT ALL" right now my PPC is so death as a peace of rock and when it starts after 100 times of softreset then it's freezes after 10 seconds...
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Well my fren, that's called life. We should be able to feel the joy and accept the sad part when something turns hairwire. No high and low will definitely make you an extremely dull person.
Cheer up! Specify your problems clearly and i think all the SE supporters will definitely help you in anyway they possibly could.
Look at the bright side, a not stable PPC makes me occupied and keep on thinking to overcome the challenges ahead. Opps...sorry guys i think i'm abit overly here like doing a motivation course.....
Nevertheless, i just wanted to save a lost soul of SE to revive back his excitement before an official launch of WM2003SE.....
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uninstall wisbar or pocketplus, soft-reset and check it out.
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Ah!! now i see, its because i chosed to start wisbar advance automaticly.
When i removed that option, it WORKED!! THANX!!!!
Wisbar advance freezes the phone application on 2k3SE shame because it is a good program.
My extended ROM consists of GSFinder (freeware), MIDI561.sa, todayweather (freeware old version), Extended ROM unlocker by xda-developers, Cproghook, BT executable upgrade and CameraB10_Hima25_WWE.
Oh yeah and a licensed verion of TomTom3.
I threw everything else out as I dont use it.
My XDA2 now benchmarks at 1452 according sbp benchmark which according to their comparisons on the website is 2nd or 3rd fastest. 1 full charge see's 24-30 hrs use without a recharge on standby including the folowing settings: bluetooth of, average of 4-5 hrs spend email, telephone, sat nav and games with back light to minimum and switch of backlight after 2 min and unit of after 3 min .
My conclucion is that 2k3SE is stable however a lot of the software used by us is not wholely compatible yet as it is a new platform and until the vendors realise their software bugs it will make 2k3SE appear to be unstable!
just my £0.02
I can assure you that the 2.20.07.CHS, aka the chinese version i s stable just like 1.72 was in its time
yes maybe there are some problem relating to the software (wisbar, I had the same problem as you guys), but it is not the wm2003se fault, but the fault of the software houses realesing apps with no SE support.
So try to look at the good times we are having doing all that upgrade, downgrade stuff....
The T9 Intellipad, does NOT save words if you chose another language.
This is seriously not good on my device, since im from sweden.
Has anyone got any sollution to this problem?!...
you will need to get the latest new version for WIn2003 SE
cause most of the software/program design for win2003 only not SE yet
wait for new version for SE
then you dun have the problems
I m running my A.K.A chinese SE no error/problems with all my software/program
Now I figured out how to get rid of the wisbar adv problem.
I found it on the lakeridge soft forum.
There is a guy that uninstalled the caller_id app, and it solves the problem.
I personaly don't use the caller_id thing (picture of the caller) and I don't have any problems in removing it.
Maybe it helped
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As a regular contributor to various motor car forums I am always amazed at how idiots destroy perfectly serviceable cars in an attempt to 'improve' them. Anyway - today, I am one of those idiots.
I recently purchased a QTEK 2020 which I got a bit cheap on account of it not having 'iMate' written on it. Before I get really into it and put software and stuff on it, I'd like to upgrade my ROM from 1.66 to 1.72, which I have found on this site. Do I have to go through all of the xda2nbftool stuff (which I more or less understand)? Presumably yes, to change the Operator (only?). I'm quite happy for the machine to think that it is an iMate, but presumably this does not work!
I am happy with my machine. It hasn't crashed yet. But it annoys me that it might not be quite as good as yours...
(I so feel like one of those people who wants to remove his cylinder head and replace it with pineapple's to make the engine run sweeter)
i dont really understand what you are asking
are you asking
1 about changing operator and so sim locking ?
2 are you asking if you need the pretty manual xda2nbftool way to upgrade xda2's ?
3 are you asking if it will work upgrading to 1.72 ?
1 you can sim unlock your device without changing rom
a rom never require you to use a special operator but the preset settings will be the operators who put out the rom
2 yes currently it's the only way with time people are likely to make it a bit more gui like the xdatools for xda1
3 it should work but some people are reporting issues with it or maybe that was the beta of 1.72
read about the exp of others in the posts about 1.72
Sorry - it's a simple question.
If I had an iMate I could just use the RUXXX upgrade without any fuss to upgrade to 1.72
However, I have a QTEK 2020. I guess therefore I have to use xda2nbftool to modify the operator name to QTEK - otherwise it will not work (despite the 2 devices being identical). I do not want to unlock a SIM or anything else (it is unlocked by default).
Just looking for confirmation of the above paragraph!
I read about the experience of others using the 'official' 1.72 and it seems okay (better battery life etc.)
Cheers
there are 2 errors i think which stop people from just flashing their xda2 flavor with any rom update in the form of an exe file
1 is country code error if the rom is released in one country it often have a block which will stop people from upgrading their another country xda2 with it, not sure why they do that
2 maybe a form of device block so you dont upgrade your qtek with the imate
i'm sure if you had an imate and the country code dident differ you would be able to upgrade without using xda2nbftool
with time a GUI tool like xdatools for xda1 will come and you'll be able to get around all these blocks without having to type
and such
If you want to upgrade your Qtek to Imate's 1.72 ROM, yes, you need to do all that stuff.
It's actually quite simple, the description on http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/HimalayaRomFlashing is full, accurate, and is actually suited to Qtek owners without changing a single instruction.
I flashed my device (though on the first go it ended up in a dead-ish screen and I had to re-flash) and it works swimmingly.
However, you might get somewhat nervous encountering such dead-ish screens; and for good reason, flashing is dangerous after all.
Perhaps it's best to wait for a Qtek upgrade, they seem to be holding back a bit, so perhaps they're waiting to integrate WM2003 Second Edition, which should be a much larger upgrade. Also, you'll still be covered by warrantee.
If you're having specific problems with your 1.6x ROM, it could conceivably be a good idea to upgrade to the iMate ROM (using the instructions on the wiki), but if you're not having any problems, or problems that also occur in 1.72, or which are a result of 3rd party software you're using; don't bother.
You are right that QTEK seem to be a little slow in releasing anything. In fact I can't find any detailed 'official' support on QTEK outside the pages of this forum. Their website appears to be in swedish and is of very little use!
The QTEKCorporation website doesn't even list the 2020! Strange, as I understand that HTC own QTEK.
Most vendors (Expansys for example) list the 2020 as 'discontinued' (which is how I managed to negotiate a big discount!)
I tried to gatecrash club-iMate but they didn't like my IMEI number, and when I asked why not they said that they don't support my device.
I don't really care (assuming that my machine never has a problem...) and is it seems to do everything I want it to, I'll wait before updating the ROM. Maybe something will come from QTEK eventually - although I am not sure from where!!
Cheers
well qtek were the first ones out with 1.66 it came on my device before most people had gotten 1.60
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As a regular contributor to various motor car forums I am always amazed at how idiots destroy perfectly serviceable cars in an attempt to 'improve' them. Anyway - today, I am one of those idiots.
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Who am I to contradict you? ;-)
Seriously: don't do the upgrade yet. Why?
- 1.72 has well-known problems. First, ClearType has become much worse - text just doesn't look as good as with older versions. Second, quite a few people report hangs that needed a hard reset (and cause a loss of all data). See, for example, the pages 45 - 50 of the PocketZenPhone thread in this forum. With my ROM version (1.60) I never had to hard-reset a single time. And I tried quite a few programs, some less buggy, some more buggy.
- also, although there are detailed instructions, things can always go wrong. And if that happens, you may need a bit of experience to sort them out. So wait a few more week, enjoy your device, read forums, and gain experience.
Cheers
Daniel
I have 1.72 for some time now and:
- it *never* crashed (I have to do soft reset from time to time like in any other release though, but no hang or anything)
- clear type is fixed. There's a post about a .cab to install which fixes the problem. ClearType is now great on 1.72
- my battery life improved over previous versions and I have a unit that can stand up to three days connected to my BT headset (a bluetrek G2) with me talking 2 to 3 hours a day and doing PDA stuff
so I would recommend you move on
Hi beljames, really I can understand you! I've almost destroyed a lot of good working car engines trying to "improve" them... :lol:
So: if you want to do this with your brand new QTEK 2020 go there
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=9060
and read carefully.
All worked fine for me. I upgraded from 1.66 ITA to 1.70 EN and my QTEK works perfectly!
About the cleartype problem you can find a fix in this forum: it works too.
I've also added a N2Ox system and a small turbocharger... it's a little bit heavier, yes, but it runs like a rocket! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Good balanced opinions!!
I think I'll wait a while to see if it annoys me. One single hang and I'll upgrade. Screw it up in Ghana and you don't get a lot of 1 to 1 technical support!!
By the way - I find it far easier to read the screen with Cleartype switched off (and mine is 1.66). Cleartype makes me squint!
An Loxodont - assuming that you are Italian, you will be amused to hear that the one car I used to lunch very frequently was an Alfa 33. Used to blow the inlet manifold clean off almost weekly.
- 1.72 has well-known problems. First, ClearType has become much worse - text just doesn't look as good as with older versions. Second, quite a few people report hangs that needed a hard reset (and cause a loss of all data).
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in defence of 1.72 then i have had both these issues with 1.66
Go for it....
Hi all,
just to let you know I also upgraded my Qtek 2020 from 1.66 to i-mate 1.72 following the "manual steps" to overryde the country code error and it works fine. The steps are simplier than it seems and i did it in 5 minutes. The upgrade itself is quite boring....it took almost one hour to complete the upgrade on all stacks.
One thing i can tell you: after the upgrade the device gets faster and it seems it has a "new" battery.
The cleartype prob is solved and forgotten with the right patch.
The only problem i still get is the stupid i-mate logo at startup and i can't seem to get rid of it. I want my old qtek logo back....
If i can give advise on this: Just go for it.....
Portuguese do it better....and we will win Euro2004 !
The only problem i still get is the stupid i-mate logo at startup and i can't seem to get rid of it. I want my old qtek logo back....
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maybe this guide can help you get your old pic or a new and more fancy one as bootImage
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=3759
Hi,
I have had it ! I decided to change my PocketPC OS to some company other than Microsoft !
Each time I install a new Program(most of the good ones) in the WM2003se ... either hang or Hard Reset !
Don't wast your time with it ..
Also , Don't wast your time developing or looking after better extended ROM !
Simply install you OS , then install all your favorite Programs in your favorite location (SD may be) then set all of the copy protection serials numbers and then perform a backup in your SD (using Sprite or any other that provide Self extracting) !
Whenever you have a problem .. simply hardreset .. then restore !
Sorry for being so straight !
Waleed
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Any
That may be a good solution for your situation but that doesn't mean that it will for for every body!
I like my self cooked Extended ROM and haven't experienced any hang or hardreset until know.
Also everyone must be aware of the fact that not every application will run on the w2k3 se. Just like it doesn't on your PC.
So there is not one solution and the solution is specific to the needs someone has.
Regards,
Mark
Waleed,
Sorry you feel that way but for me its the real fun part of owning a XDA II. Coz being an engineer also helps .. we love to fix things, even if it aint broke ... until it breaks.
Cheers
rasli said:
Waleed,
Sorry you feel that way but for me its the real fun part of owning a XDA II. Coz being an engineer also helps .. we love to fix things, even if it aint broke ... until it breaks.
Cheers
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My sentiments too... It's a TOY for me to bash!!!!!!
I've only experienced 1 hang:- with XCPUScalar ver 2.82. I upgraded to ver 2.85 and my device is running smoother than the old 1.66.00WWE ROM.
Mind you, I don't run that many apps either. Just calculators / Adobe / XSForms etc...
I installed and am enjoying using Fonix Voice Dial, which I never would have since ROM 1.72 isn't released for Asia as yet!
Either way, I am having a ball playing with this powerful work tool... cough... toy!
Recrem...
Windows Mobile 2003 Second Edition, WOW....!!, It's a Fenomenal ROM, I very like it !!!, but if you don't, just to downgraded to 1.72 + SRS Appl.
Cheers,
I recently bought a TyTNfor almost $900 including a 2 GB expansion card. Despite dozens of hours of trying to get it to work correctly, I find th TyTN almost intolerably buggy.
Specifically:
1) the phone loses connections frequently -- much worse than the Cingular 8125 or my old Treo 650.
2) numerous application programs either crash the device or do not run properly -- specifically, the Audible.com player, the the automated download feature or of Audible Air, most of the SPB utility applications, SBSH Weather (VGA Icons), SBSH Ilauncher and others.
3) the battery life absolutely sucks. I get less than eight hours of operation -- with very few telephone calls. I do have Microsoft push e-mail turned on. However, this ought to work -- for God's sake, or what's the point?
4) the screen/stylus requires re-alignment at least twice a daily..
Is there anyone out there who can help me and walk me through the installation of a new ROM, or some kind of update that makes this device work in a tolerable manner?
I would be very happy to pay you for your consulting time. Otherwise, I want to try to get HTC to take this buggy phone back for a full refund and I will go back to using my old Treo 650.
Many thanks for your attention and future help.
ROM version 1.18.255.3
ROM date 07/22/06
Radio Version 1.03.03.10
Once I hear that you have alignment problems, then, from what I hear you have bad luck since you have one of the firt TyTns out there. I heard that HTC replaces these units. It hapens to be a common problem on the early devices.
I have my MDA Vario II (a variation of a Hermes) and till now 4 days long extremely happy with everything.
natgoldhaber said:
I recently bought a TyTNfor almost $900 including a 2 GB expansion card. Despite dozens of hours of trying to get it to work correctly, I find th TyTN almost intolerably buggy.
Specifically:
1) the phone loses connections frequently -- much worse than the Cingular 8125 or my old Treo 650.
2) numerous application programs either crash the device or do not run properly -- specifically, the Audible.com player, the the automated download feature or of Audible Air, most of the SPB utility applications, SBSH Weather (VGA Icons), SBSH Ilauncher and others.
3) the battery life absolutely sucks. I get less than eight hours of operation -- with very few telephone calls. I do have Microsoft push e-mail turned on. However, this ought to work -- for God's sake, or what's the point?
4) the screen/stylus requires re-alignment at least twice a daily..
Is there anyone out there who can help me and walk me through the installation of a new ROM, or some kind of update that makes this device work in a tolerable manner?
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Well, I am sorry you are having these problems. I don't think most of them are a Tytn problems in general.
1) First I have heard of this. I have had the Tytn for a month now and don't have that problem. I move in and out of a 3g area and whether on GSM or UMTS, call quality has been great (better than my Wizzard in fact). Maybe your problem is a SIM issue since this phone is not supported by your carrier where you others might be? I went and got a new SIM when I got mine so I don't know if that could be an issue or not.
2) I don't use many apps. I do use SBSH Weather v1.3.3 (regular icons) and it works well. No issues at all, updates just fine etc. I thought the VGA icons were for devices with a VGA screen (Universal for example). To the best of my knowledge the Wizzard, Tytn etc are not VGA devices so I don't think it helps to use the VGA icons, and who knows, maybe it could cause an issue on a non-VGA device. I have heard that SPB has issues. Slingplayer also works well for me, streaming video runs great.
3) I get ~3-4 days out of the battery if just used for calls, weather updates, and light browsing. Heavy UMTS browsing or streaming cuts that down significantly to 24-36 hours. I don't use push mail so don't know there, but there might be a config setting that is causing your device to get polled too frequently. I do know that one time I went into the phone menu and Band page to set Band to UMTS only. I forgot I did that, left a UMTS area and the phone went into constant network search mode instead of switching to GSM. That drained my battery in something less than 8 hrs.
4) I also don't have this problem. There are many reports of this problem though and the only fix I am aware of is a replacement.
Bottom line is I suspect you have a bad phone (reception and alignment issues) as well as setup issues or program conflicts causing your apps problems.
try to upgrade to the lastest rom!
natgoldhaber said:
I would be very happy to pay you for your consulting time. Otherwise, I want to try to get HTC to take this buggy phone back for a full refund and I will go back to using my old Treo 650.
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I would love to take your money, but I think you should take it back and get something else. Maybe even a Treo. The reason I say this is because the TyTn is just not ready for Prime Time unless you are a power user or someone who doesn't feel the need to complain because it doesn't work properly. Power user go around these issues and figure out the problems.
This is no way an insult to you, it's just that if you can't deal with the problems, and you need to rely on a phone/pda, and email is very important to you maybe even go as low as to get a blackberry. In the meantime I personally would keep the TyTn and explore it and fully understand how it works. When you are ready to dive in and start using it as a "power user" then you will no longer need to worry about it's faults.
This is coming from 2 years of experience with the O2 Xda IIs. Which was the buggiest pocketpc phone that ever came out and today is one of the top, mainly due to the fact that once the ROM is hacked the development efforts go up considerably and you see increased productivity and usability.
But if you need the money, just get a refund.
Sorry about my blunt response, but I had a friend who I converted from a palm to a Blue Angel. He didn't like it so I got him into a wizard. He curse at it for a while, then he started loving it after a few weeks of using it. Now he would never go back to a Palm or a Treo or anything else. I got my TyTn only last week and have cursed it to hell and back several thousand times. But this is just the way it goes when you're one of the early adopters. Especially when the phone is not commercially available to the US and Canada.
Time heals all.
Fully agree with you axiom, the most sincere response you could have given him.
I also come from the BlueAngel and was one of the early adopters, now running helmi's 1.32 rom, that's why I truely understand what you mean
Thanks pof for backing me up. I am also still using my BlueAngel with with the 1.32 rom but primarily in my car for navigation. This way I don't have to spend another few hundred dollars on a Nav system. And it really bothers me when tomtom loads faster on my BlueAngel then it does on my TyTn, but then I am hopeful that the TyTn will prevail when the time is write and all our heads are in the right place.
As always, everyone is welcome to post their problems, concerns, and findings and I am always pushing people to hang in there because "I know" there is light at the end of the tunnel.
Thanks for all the thoughtful replys - but....
Perhaps this is a device that is a little too early for me. But I will not return it. I love the speed of the Cingular 3G network. And I am blown away by how well Exchange/Outlook push works. I would never go back to a Treo or to a Blackberry.
I was rather hoping someone may have an idea about an improved ROM. I did have a direct conversation with HTCEurope's tech support office. They said they were well aware of the problems with applications, especially with the Audible player. They wistfully referred to the folks in Taiwan creating a new ROM - any month now.
I hoped that one of you might feel that a beta Cingular or other ROM might fix some or all of my problems. And I hope that someone could talk me through the installation. I hope that is true.
Many thanks.
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I hoped that one of you might feel that a beta Cingular or other ROM might fix some or all of my problems. And I hope that someone could talk me through the installation. I hope that is true.
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Oh please don't install the cingular beta ROM. Infact, as much I enjoyed using it for testing purposes, the last thing you want to do is start pushing ROMs. I am also waiting for a newer ROM, I was one of the first along with pof and others who installed the cingular roms and found some harsh truths, and some benefits. However, I went back to the dopod rom, with a radio update from the cingular rom. And this was a journey in possibly bricking my unit because going back from the cingular to one of the other roms is a chance and you need your original rom to go back.
If you must pursue upgrading your ROM, please keep a few things in mind:
1) And very important: If you don't know what you're doing, you could brick your unit.
2) A rom upgrade is only as good as the comments it has received from the users on this forum.
3) Most users who use the newest roms are, in most cases, advanced and understand that there will be problems.
4) Once you have started to upgrade your rom, you will be doing it all the time and be ready to reinstall your apps and settings.
If this is all ok to you and you have a back up phone, that you can use while you play with your TyTn, then go ahead and try the Dopod, Imate or TyTn rom. Look through the wiki and you will find all the information you need.
READ EVERYTHING FIRST, THEN START YOUR JOURNEY. The worst thing is having someone tell you "Do a search", or "RTFM", or "Read the wiki". People will respect you more and will be willing to help you more if your questions legit and the wiki can't help you out.
To start you off, I would suggest the Dopod ROM, with radio 1.16. This should take you about 1 hour to update. Then if you're not satisfied with this, then go to the TyTn or the IMate.
I hope this helps, and I have never seen anyone ask for money on here to help our fellow users and if they have, then shame on them. We are all here to learn and teach, this is what makes us a community of excellence.
I hope this helps you and many others on this board. Until the next rom, or hopefully the successful hack of the TyTn rom... Long live xda-developers!
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axiom: I took part of your last comment and updated the upgrading FAQs with it
As far as the screen alignment issue goes i am shortly sending my TyTN to HTC (in the UK) to get fixed under warranty (ie free)....the guy on the helpline was REALLY helpfull in sorting it out...they estimate a 5 day turnaround for it which is just SWEEEEET......shall be back to my P900 for a few days URGH!
So afaik the screen alignment can be sorted with an under warranty repair
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axiom: I took part of your last comment and updated the upgrading FAQs with it
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Thanks pof, I am very honored to me contributing to the wiki. Hehe.
There is one spelling mistake, can you change:
help you more if your questions legit and the wiki can't help you out.
to
help you more if your questions are legit and the wiki can't help you out.
Thanks.
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There is one spelling mistake, can you change:
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I changed it, but remember that you can edit the wiki too... it's very easy, and if you need help, just ask
Dear Prof, Asukal and especially Axiom:
I want to thank you for your responses. I took the plunge last night and upgraded the phone radio ROM to the Cingular 1.16 version using the instructions and files from Asukal.
There were moments of sheer terror. The ROM upload to the phone took hours. In fact, I went to sleep and let it continue through the night. But when I woke up, there was the predicted error message on the TyTN. Just as instructed, after a reset, everything worked perfectly. I will write this up more thoroughly in a day or two after I have a chance to really test the radio.
But thanks for giving me the courage to try the upgrade. I am also including a snippet from a message I received from HTC Support about the next ROM:
"There are no ROM updates available for the TyTN at present, although are actively working one to address various issue customers are experiencing.
We are expecting this to coincide with the Windows Mobile 5 AKU3 update."
Nat
please help/ new to this
I have a 02 xda exec that has several programs that states that " either it is not signed in with a trusted cetificate, or one of it's commponent can not be found, you might have to reinstall or restore this file." My desktop had the backup files for the 02 exec but it crashed. im using my laptop to try to find out how to restore my files. I tried the update but that failed too. Please help.
BASSMAN said:
I have a 02 xda exec that has several programs that states that " either it is not signed in with a trusted cetificate, or one of it's commponent can not be found, you might have to reinstall or restore this file." My desktop had the backup files for the 02 exec but it crashed. im using my laptop to try to find out how to restore my files. I tried the update but that failed too. Please help.
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This is the TyTn forum. You want to post this in the Universal forum.
natgoldhaber said:
Dear Prof, Asukal and especially Axiom:
I want to thank you for your responses. I took the plunge last night and upgraded the phone radio ROM to the Cingular 1.16 version using the instructions and files from Asukal.
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Congratulations and you are very welcome. Btw, which base rom did you stay with? I have noticed better reception with the 1.16 radio, how are you finding it?
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Congratulations and you are very welcome. Btw, which base rom did you stay with? I have noticed better reception with the 1.16 radio, how are you finding it?
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ROM is version 1.18.255.3
Date:7/22/06
Radio: 1.16.00.00 (hurray)
Protocol: 32.53.7018H
ExROM: 1.18.255.106
I will give a full report on the radio tomorrow - not enough experience with it yet - and some very minor anomalies after the upgrade.
If you're experiencing shortened battery life, try changing the push email settings (active sync for the mail server) -- if you set it to other than "as they arrive" to an hour or so, for off-peak, it will really reduce the battery drain. Same with the settings for an POP3 email mailboxes -- change the polling interval to a longer duration. I've found that to be one of the biggest battery drains on my TyTN.
I've had a TyTN for more than 2 months and absolutely love it. Sold my k-jam (wizard) because I want the 3G if Cingular USA ever gets it working in my area. I've found the TyTN faster even on the EDGE network locally and better overall than my k-jam -- seems like the issues with the wizard have been largely addressed. Mind you I've never had the screen alignment problem so I can sympathize with those who do. I did switch my HTC ROM to the Imate ROM and I feel like the stability is better.
Slightly better
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ROM is version 1.18.255.3
Date:7/22/06
Radio: 1.16.00.00 (hurray)
Protocol: 32.53.7018H
ExROM: 1.18.255.106
I will give a full report on the radio tomorrow - not enough experience with it yet - and some very minor anomalies after the upgrade.
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I think the Cingular 1.16 Radio ROM is just a bit better than the TyTN ROM that was native to my device. It seems very clear and it MAY hold the signal a bit better. My house is in a marginal area, switching constantly between GPRS and UMTS. That may make things difficult. My reception at home is clearer but about the same as my old Treo 650 in terms of maintaining a connection. The 8125 I had on trial from Cingular for a few weeks was better - but of course it had no UMTS.
Might be interesting for someone to do a hack which grabs GPRS during phone conversations in marginal areas and prevents going to UMTS during the call. ?????
I downloaded the fix4cat TyTN tweaker and set audio to "excellent." Not sure what that does, but excellent sounds good. I also enabled HSPDA, but that seems to do nothing.
Anyway I am happy.
The audible player still does not work worth beans (boohoo - their tech support is NO HELP AT ALL) and I had a really terrible experience with Chapura Pocket Mirror which I used successfully on the Treo for years. I need to synchronize public folders on my Exchange server. Any ideas? Chapura is brain dead, temporarily broke my device and made me spend hours recovering my programs and settings.
Finally - anyone ever able to get into a Cisco firewall and look at files on the company server with the VPN software in WM5??? I have tried using PPTP – no luck.
And really finally, thanks to everyone who helped. (Battery life better with push email off and TyTN magically stopped alignment drift completely and I am no longer a ROM virgin).
Nat
hiya,
bit new to all this, so some advice from you guys is needed!
what are the best options for the m1000?
not sure if there are different versions of the phone so give you as much detail as i can find?
cpu intel pxa263
speed 400mhz
ram 128mb
model ph10a
the main app i need is excel, plus a prog to print via ir to my dj450 printer(have been using printpocketce)
hope i have not missed anything important??
thanks in advance
there are 2003SE roms wm5 roms wm6 early roms
personaly if your device works as it should now i prob would leave it alone as i cant say if printing would work with later roms
thanks for the reply!
cant say its been working well?...had a few random hangs from time to time and there has been times where you get a call no ringtone heard and no way to answer it? h/ware buttons didnt work,touch screen button flashes like its been pressed but still didnt answer
only way i found to sort it out was a soft reset
so the main reason for the upgrade was an improvement in phone function rather than a printing issue?
think the main question i meant to ask really was which is the most stable version for this type of phone,most of the bugs sorted out?
thanks again
upgrading time got error in spv m1000 help please
i regreat to say i did try for update my spv m1000 today but my got died now when i tried i did conntect my ppc with ppc via bluetooth actvesync when i run HimaUpgradeUt.exe then a window open and shows mgs wait 30 minunt but after even 1 minunt got error also my phone got stop like dead and screen shows on top serial and on bottom it shows v1.3 i realy .sad. becouse now i cant reeboot also even ui have not data cable any body help me plz what i do now ?
voltesep said:
thanks for the reply!
cant say its been working well?...had a few random hangs from time to time and there has been times where you get a call no ringtone heard and no way to answer it? h/ware buttons didnt work,touch screen button flashes like its been pressed but still didnt answer
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Had a lot of hanging, on my M1000, but after upgrading to the WM2003SE WWE, the speed of the machine has improved a lot, and it does no longer hang, allmost no matter what I do.
I found that some of the build in Orange apps were the reason for "hangtime" and slowdowns, because if I tryed to install them, from the original Ext-ROM, all the problems came back.
So my experience is, that "Genuine English WM2003 SE " http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=230279 is a major improvement, to the Orange standard WM2003
I upgraded my SPV M1000 from Orange ROM to WM5 and now to Tofclock WM6 ROM, and it works fine. All features are ok for me, it's great!!!
thanks for the reply guys
would like to try tofclock wm6, if im going to do it may as well go the whole hog!
does anyone know if you can print via ir in office on wm6?...or am i going to need some more software??
Dear Xda Experts!
My name is Guy, I own an Xda Atom and I critically need your help...
About a month ago my life became miserable as the wifi module of the poor device has stopped functioning completely: It doesn't start when I click Menu->Turn on Wifi, doesn't respond to wireless manager clicks, fails the self diagnostics test etc.
After looking all over the relevant internet forums, I've found This post, suggesting I put the atom in the fridge for a few minutes. I've done that - and suprisingly - the wifi began functioning for a few minutes time. After that, it returned to its normal state of misfunctioning.
I understand that the problem is being caused by some sort of a heating problem within the device.
Is there a solution to this problem?
Rom experts (especially Jiggs) : is there a registry edit that might help, maybe to take some pressure of the processor, or to prevent the disappearance of the wifi as the device heats?
I bought the Atom especially because the wifi ability, as it is highly important to me, and as for now I'm seriously disappointed. The O2's support's laconic response was "Try the official ROM" (My warranty period is over).
Needless to say, I have already tried Hard resets, Rom upgrades of all kinds, flashing and reflashing, taking out the battery for a few days and nothing worked.
Please try to assist,
Your help will be much appreciated.
Thank you all,
Guy Sando.
Same with me.
Hi Guy,
I have the same problem with my Atom.
I tried to reinstall ROMs/Hard Reset and nothing helped.
One day in the morning after charging it all over the night, the WIFI suddenly started to work, but only for few hours.
Hope someone would have an idea.
Yaniv.
Do not used wireless manager or the wrlsmgr. try using Wifi Utilty by ALE**** i forget
Bye try to flash with the AKU 3.3.3 or AKU3.3F
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329181
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Do not used wireless manager or the wrlsmgr. try using Wifi Utilty by ALE**** i forget
Bye try to flash with the AKU 3.3.3 or AKU3.3F
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329181
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Dear Jeffkewin, thanx for the response.
Do you have a link or maybe a bit more specific name of the software that you recommended? (Btw, Software replacement seems a bit like a long shot, because of the fact that the "fridge-therapy" works for the wifi...)
As for the AKU's - I've tried them both, they're really nice, but none of them has fixed my wifi issue...
Maybe The upcoming WM6 Rom will. I keep my fingers crossed...
Thanks again,
Guy.
Can u goto the Settings, Connections, use the Wi-fi Utility.
Ignore the Turn on and off button. Turn on is turn off, turn on is turn on.. that the only text bugs, but the software is working fine.
Try SPB phone suite wireless icon
it happened to me one time while trying to reflashed ROM. When im going to Wireless Manager, I cant open my wifi. But if im trying to open it in SPB Phone suite , its working...maybe try this software. download it and i will give to you the serial for registration. But first try if it is work then thats the time i will give to you...
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Can u goto the Settings, Connections, use the Wi-fi Utility.
Ignore the Turn on and off button. Turn on is turn off, turn on is turn on.. that the only text bugs, but the software is working fine.
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it happened to me one time while trying to reflashed ROM. When im going to Wireless Manager, I cant open my wifi. But if im trying to open it in SPB Phone suite , its working...maybe try this software. download it and i will give to you the serial for registration. But first try if it is work then thats the time i will give to you...
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Thank you Jeffkewin and Generalriden,
Unfortunately, The solutions you proposed are not working. I have tried Phonesuite, Hitch-hiker and many more - none have worked.
I have also tried ignoring the text in the "Wifi utilities" application (In many different Rom versions) - still no good...
Has someone encountered the same problem and got it solved? Is there something about the Rom version that can fix this?
Thanks again,
Guy.
If you're using the official ROM and it's not working, then this is more hardware related. 'Fridge Theraphy' is not normal for your device. You have no choice but to go to service center, have it estimated for cost. You can buy now a brand new Atom at $250 or less.
Alternate solution would be a $50-$100 SDIO wifi card, but I think none would fit the miniSD slot.
There are miniSDIO wifis. They're pretty much the only miniSDIO devices. However, you're still better off getting a new device.
Sounds like your wifi module's overheating. This is a hardware problem (just like cracking speakers) and there's no way to fix it permanently short of a physical repair.
Good News
I had the same problem.
I tried almost every single possible solution which was discussed on this forum, including the Fridge Therapy. Fridge therapy really worked for a couple of minutes.
Finally, I took it to the service center and they said, the problem is with the board and the cost of repair is $400/-.
I was put off and challenged to see, something which works after the fridge therapy will stop working at room temperature.
Finally, I realized, the last thing beyond the ROM which I changed was the MS Active Sync. I had using Active Sync Ver 4.5. It seems to have some conflict. I reverted back to Active Sync Ver. 4.1 and reflased the original rom.
It worked and Active Sync Ver. 4.1 is working perfectly fine for my device. After the WiFi worked, I reflashed it to Jiggs latest WM6 ROM and its working well.
Might sound wiered, but the fact, I could resolve this issue by reverting back to Active Sync. 4.1.
Hope this helps to all dissappointed users of Atom.
Regards,
Anand
Anand Bhargava said:
I had the same problem.
I tried almost every single possible solution which was discussed on this forum, including the Fridge Therapy. Fridge therapy really worked for a couple of minutes.
Finally, I took it to the service center and they said, the problem is with the board and the cost of repair is $400/-.
I was put off and challenged to see, something which works after the fridge therapy will stop working at room temperature.
Finally, I realized, the last thing beyond the ROM which I changed was the MS Active Sync. I had using Active Sync Ver 4.5. It seems to have some conflict. I reverted back to Active Sync Ver. 4.1 and reflased the original rom.
It worked and Active Sync Ver. 4.1 is working perfectly fine for my device. After the WiFi worked, I reflashed it to Jiggs latest WM6 ROM and its working well.
Might sound wiered, but the fact, I could resolve this issue by reverting back to Active Sync. 4.1.
Hope this helps to all dissappointed users of Atom.
Regards,
Anand
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Dear Anand,
Thank you very much for your help.
I'm anxious to see if that's gonna work for me as well.
I'll try going back to AS 4.1 right now and will let you know.
Keep your fingers crossed for me!
Many thanks again!
Guy.
I'm happy for you mate, but that just sounds like the biggest load of bollocks I've ever heard it just proves how unpredictible and unreliable our Atoms are, my Wifi has also gone on the blink for one or two weeks at a time and then for no apparent reason it fixes itself. Although I suppose running the Atom Exec rom in the Atom doesnt help nor the fact we run overclock apps to 624MHZ
I have now finished downgrading to AS 4.1 and to the official ROM.
Unfortunately, that did not do the trick. Thinking about it, seems like Homer is right:
The AS doesn't start communicating with the device until its connected to the desktop, after the HR and the SR that follow the ROM upgrade. therefore, there's no obvious reason why it should affect the wifi module, which seems to be off even before that connection. In addition - Anand, how did you get the AS 4.1 to work with the WM6 ROM? Isn't AS 4.5 the only version that works with WM6?
As been said, our devices are totally unpredictable, which is really disappointing. I'm happy for you, for getting everything running, and I hope that my device will do that as well soon.
I'll be more than glad if someone here will be able to assist in that matter.
Thank you all,
Guy.
guysando said:
I have now finished downgrading to AS 4.1 and to the official ROM.
Unfortunately, that did not do the trick. Thinking about it, seems like Homer is right:
The AS doesn't start communicating with the device until its connected to the desktop, after the HR and the SR that follow the ROM upgrade. therefore, there's no obvious reason why it should affect the wifi module, which seems to be off even before that connection. In addition - Anand, how did you get the AS 4.1 to work with the WM6 ROM? Isn't AS 4.5 the only version that works with WM6?
As been said, our devices are totally unpredictable, which is really disappointing. I'm happy for you, for getting everything running, and I hope that my device will do that as well soon.
I'll be more than glad if someone here will be able to assist in that matter.
Thank you all,
Guy.
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i think guys,IMHO, if the problem doesnt have a solution, change mobile and get the better one. So far, my atom pure is working great so i can wait to buy an iphone ;-)
guysando said:
I have now finished downgrading to AS 4.1 and to the official ROM.
Unfortunately, that did not do the trick. Thinking about it, seems like Homer is right:
The AS doesn't start communicating with the device until its connected to the desktop, after the HR and the SR that follow the ROM upgrade. therefore, there's no obvious reason why it should affect the wifi module, which seems to be off even before that connection. In addition - Anand, how did you get the AS 4.1 to work with the WM6 ROM? Isn't AS 4.5 the only version that works with WM6?
As been said, our devices are totally unpredictable, which is really disappointing. I'm happy for you, for getting everything running, and I hope that my device will do that as well soon.
I'll be more than glad if someone here will be able to assist in that matter.
Thank you all,
Guy.
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I have not yet syncronized my device with WM6 and AS 4.1. I just used it to reflash the Atom.
Also, I have heard, of AS to have an impact on WiFi Connectivity in the past.
Mine is still working fine. Infact, WiFi with WM6 is working much better than WM5.
Also, another thing which my help to have a logical conclusion is the fact, that when I used to sync with my laptop's WiFi on, my PDA's WiFi used to dissappear and when the Laptop's WiFi was off, it used to work well.
To be honest, I tried many things, starting flashing the first Atom update to the cooked roms, with AS downgrade. I wanted to share my experience, was quite excited that it may help many other like me.
Feel sorry for you :-(
Regards,
Anand
WIFI mulfunction
It sounds completly reasonable - a sofware conflict.
I have the same the problem.
However, one morning after recharging my ATOM for a complete night, the WIFI module suddenly worked in the morning till I......used the active sync 4.5 to synchronize it.
I will try to reinstall the 4.1 version and see how it works for me.
Yaniv