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I hear echos...my friends say they hear echos...
I'm on the new Cingular rom and I can get mine to work with MSVC 1.6 using the 09f tweak...(Thanks guys!)
Post your reviews of the Jawbone with the 8525. I'd really like to hear your experiences.
I'm taking the jawbone back tomorrow. I don't like the fit or the tinny sound or the weight. For the money I think it sucks.
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i was thinking of getting this one too. what do you mean by the tinny sound?
I love mine. I think the ear piece could be a bit better but the sound quality is perfect. No tinny for me. I had a Nexxum Hated it never worked with the tytn. Sorry to hear it guys.
Tinny=sounds like the other party is talking through a tin can. Hopefully it was just mine but for 119 bucks I expect quality. Also it is to heavy and big compared to the jx10 and the discovery 655.
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I love mine. I think the ear piece could be a bit better but the sound quality is perfect. No tinny for me. I had a Nexxum Hated it never worked with the tytn. Sorry to hear it guys.
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I have really small ears. I thought I needed the smallest inner ear piece. I ended up dropping it twice on Friday. I did some refitting and actually I ended up using the bigger ear piece shaped like a tear drop with the curve. That one fits much better and feels more stable.
I can almost wear it without the earloop. For me the earloop does nothing really now.
I don't get that tinny sound everyone is talking about. I have noticed though I can speak in a more normal or lower voice and people hear me just fine. THAT I LOVE!
I think the packaging is where the cost went though. I admire their take on BT headsets. They really "raised the bar" but I can't wait to see their next version.
per my review here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=291926&page=3
I have had zero trouble and still love my jawbone.
But BT are kind of like cars... everyone likes a different one.
Jawbone works flawlessly!
I have had the Jawbone for over a month now. I have had several bluetooth headsets from just about every manufacturer, the noise reduction on this headset is unmatched. It sometimes takes a few seconds for the Jawbone to key in and block the outside noise, but once it does the sound is absolutely spectacular. Take the time and find the right combination of adapters to fit your ear size and I truely believe you will not be satisfied with another bluetooth headset.
I just got one and after a driving test at 50MPH with the window 1/2 down talking with a co-worker I'm sold. He told me that it was dead silent and was so impressed that he's on his way to find one tonight. I found the audio, slightly processed, maybe slight compression which improved my perception of voice quality, not unpleasent at all. My co-worker who is also an engineer, said that my audio was very clear and the car noise was virtually gone.
Headsets fit and function is very personal. I've had the Moto 850, 700 and they are OK, just not good at background noise. Jabra was comfy, but others complained of background noise and echo. Sony's 835 strange cyclic noise in my ear, plus it fell out too easily, 435 Feels good on me, others say slight echo.
The Jawbone has 4 ear loops, and about 6 ear pieces. Using a mirror I got a perfect fit, very comfy for me as I quickly forget that it's even there. The noise cancelling is so good, others kept saying "are you still there?" till they got used to the dead silence when I'm not speaking.
I tried the vacuume running next to me test, and it's all true, the noise cancelling is simply the best there is so far.
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I hear echos...my friends say they hear echos...
I'm on the new Cingular rom and I can get mine to work with MSVC 1.6 using the 09f tweak...(Thanks guys!)
Post your reviews of the Jawbone with the 8525. I'd really like to hear your experiences.
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I get echos also...but I think it is the network and not the headset. I was also getting echos with my 8125 and they usually happen when I'm in the same area.
I did have an Ah-HA moment with my Jawbone. I went to a noisey eatery Five Guys burgers and I could barely hear myself think yet the person on the phone said they heard me just fine. I'm gonna test it on the way home today with the sun roof back and the window down. IF it is all good, then I'm sold
Oh and the Jawbone works great with the MSVC 1.6 and 09f fix. Without voice command it's just a regular old pda.
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Help with 09f tweak
You guys mention a '09f' fix or tweak. I've looked around for more information on this but can't seem to find anything.
I'm sorry if it's obvious, but my searching hasn't uncovered anything...
Could someone point me to the source / more information about this 09f fix?
Thanks,
Rob
Do a search for Microsoft Voice Command v1.6 in Hermes Upgrading, it's a long thread. I read thru it and it gives tips on getting voice command to work with the Hermes devices. The main contributer to the thread has created a patch file to get MSVC to work better and it's up to .09f currently. Typical Microsoft product support, slow to fix bugs.
Positive experiences w/Jawbone
I have used mine for the last 3 weeks now, and I am still VERY happy with it. The noise cancellation is not perfect, but its head and shoulders above anything else I have been able to find and try. Getting the right fit is a lot of trial and error, and also makes a significant difference in how well the noise cancellation works in use. I am using the VC v1.6 and .9f fix and all works well for me.
I love my Jawbone
I have had the Jawbone for a couple of months now. In fact, I received mine a week after they came out. I have used it on a Treo 700w with Verizon, a Blackberry Pearl with Cingular, and now a Cingular 8525. I have never experienced any issues what so ever, and have had nothing but positive results. My co-worker bought one when I did and feels exactly the same. We couldn't be happier with our purchases.
Thought I would provide an update and give some insight.
Feedback. Had my Jawbone for few months and has perform perfectly. Matter of fact, I used it several times in Data Centers and the person on the other end hardly hears the server/router backgroud noise.
Insight. I buddy of mine pointed me to the softgel ear pieces from Verizon and this has helped tremendously on the ear. For 3$ bucks go to Verizon and purchase the Mini Gels ear replacements.
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I'm taking the jawbone back tomorrow. I don't like the fit or the tinny sound or the weight. For the money I think it sucks.
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I also took mine back after 3 days. The fit was HORRIBLE .. and yes, I tried all the combinations of pieces.
The incoming sound was tinny, but at the highest volume, it was loud (which i did like).
My biggest complaint, for me anyway, was the noise reduction which was non-existent. I tested it several times with a variety of different background noises and each and every time, background noise could still be heard plain as day .. even after several minutes of waiting for it to kick in (and yes the noise filter was active (white light not red)). I tried adjusting it to several places on my face hoping to get better contact between the "nipple" and my cheek, but nothing made it work.
I really wanted to like it, but for me, the $119 was money wasted as i was much more happy with my Motorola HS850.
Jawbone Vs. Everything Else
I just got the j.b and the thing is people dont say get off your bluetooth! I called everyone that was starting to complained about my current bluetooth and they all sayd i sounded fine. Seems the tinny sound (tin can) after you use it for awhile and it muffles out background noise. Before that I worked for and Independent agent and had the ability to try almost every bluetooth out there. The jabra bt250 and the 500 worked the best for me in fit. It seems though that the older my jabra 500 got the less it ws able to muffle background noise. But the way the Jawbone drowns out the background noise (wind, radio, other people) is so far more superior than anything else. The only thing is the fit. If it fit like my jabra the thing would be TITS!!!
I just got my silver Jawbone today.
The fit isnt that good yet and I've tried all the combinations of earpieces/earbuds. I think I can make it work though.
The talk button is anoying to push. I have to press the thing into my face to activate the button..
The noise cancelation works AMAZINGLY well... so props to them on that. The guy who said it doesn't work must have had a broken device or didnt understand how to turn it on. The buttons aren't "easy" to figure out but they're simple enough that after a couple tries you get it.
Voice quality is really good but it does sound kind of like they're a little far away.
This is all from using it for an hour so far.
Update: 10 minutes later.. I found and used the large round earbud and now this thing fits very very well into my ear.
After messing with it since this post it's configured about perfect now. When i first synced it to my 8525 i only heard static. i had to reset 8525 and then it worked properly.
So right now all is well. Already is better than the **** motorolas I've tried.
Update: Buttons are still anoying.
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Hi all,
I have had my Jawbone for a while now. I drive a 86 CJ7 with no top. This is the only headset that anyone can hear me on while driving down the freeway.
The only drawback that I have encountered is the fit. Why couldn't they just take a hint from Jabra with thier earbuds. Everyone can hear me now and I can't hear anyone becuase it does not block out all the noise that I hear.
A few of you on here have said that you used a different type of ear bud. I am wide open to suggestions. I looked at the verizon website. Still looking for a mminigel earbud, but since I don't know what headset they were designed for makes it a little harder.
Please let me know what earbuds you guys are using with the Jawbone.
Thanks
Joe
Hi Everyone,
I have been looking for such a beast for a long time without avail. I have an old Jabra BT200, but that's too bulky, and of course, answering the phone is impossible. My Motorcycle is my secondary transport, so I would like to keep the spending to a minimum.
My old HP 65xx phone came with a 2.5mm headset that was easy to slip into the helmet, and I could live with that. The TyTN connector is a little awkward, and when the phone's in the case, the connector is not exposed.
I have seen some specialized products like the cardio scala rider, but the price is more than I would like to spend. I remember at some point that vendors were making neck strap BT adapters that would take in a 2.5mm wired headset, but I haven't been able to find them.
Any of the riders in the group have any suggestions besides the Cardio Scala rider? any help would be appreciated.
Best Regards,
I would like to know as well. Although it probably isn't a good idea to be talking on the phone while motorcycling. Its bad enough people don't see us; we don't need to help them out by concentrating on a phone call.
Scala Rider Bluetooth headset
hfam95 said:
I would like to know as well. Although it probably isn't a good idea to be talking on the phone while motorcycling. Its bad enough people don't see us; we don't need to help them out by concentrating on a phone call.
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I ride with a scala rider bluetooth headset. Google it. It is great Works with open and full faced helmets. I use a full face flip down helmet. The microphone boom and head piece clip down to the side of the helmet. The actual bluetooth piece detaches and re-attaches from the rest of it for charging. The voice quality is outstanding. So loud it can not be turned all the way up. Cheers Its the best so far. The only one better is the one built into the helmet. I dont remember the brand of my helmet but will check a repost it.
EBAY EBAY EBAY EBAY....hint
I will check ebay for pricing(thanks stukes). I'm trying to take the cheap route because I don't ride the bike as often as I would like, and the scala is not a cheap option.
I don't like answering the phone while riding either, but sometimes you have to. I would like to at least have the option so that if it's something important, I can call the person back. Right now, I don't even notice that a call is coming in most of the time, and some have been important.
If I find some suitable solution, I'll post it here.
Thanks again
WARNING....Before riding with this thing test and turn down the volume!!! On your phone select the auto answer function. If you dont turn the volume down then there is a possibility of it being so loud an accident can occur!!! So please take caution until you get use to it.
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I will check ebay for pricing(thanks stukes). I'm trying to take the cheap route because I don't ride the bike as often as I would like, and the scala is not a cheap option.
I don't like answering the phone while riding either, but sometimes you have to. I would like to at least have the option so that if it's something important, I can call the person back. Right now, I don't even notice that a call is coming in most of the time, and some have been important.
If I find some suitable solution, I'll post it here.
Thanks again
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I ride with a scala rider bluetooth headset. Google it. It is great Works with open and full faced helmets. I use a full face flip down helmet. The microphone boom and head piece clip down to the side of the helmet. The actual bluetooth piece detaches and re-attaches from the rest of it for charging. The voice quality is outstanding. So loud it can not be turned all the way up. Cheers Its the best so far. The only one better is the one built into the helmet. I dont remember the brand of my helmet but will check a repost it.
EBAY EBAY EBAY EBAY....hint
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I know Dainese has a helmet with built-in BT. Its the Airstream Course "Mugello" Bluetooth Helmet.
Scala FTW.. my friend uses one on his sony phone and when I call him I can't tell he's even riding... he uses the stereo phones that came with his phone to listen to mp3s when a call comes in it mutes the music and he uses his scala BT for the call... I'm guessing my 8525 would work similar... tryin to get him to let me test it with my 8525 before I purchase one...
Just got home from work. My helmet is from CABERG helmets. They had the same split full face as mine with a built in bluetooth headset as well. Once again I really like the scala rider headset. Once properly attached to the helmet its great.
I got an I-tech S38. it allows you to use whatever headphones you want (uses standard mini-stereo plug). I don't ride, but if you can wear earbud(s), you could use it.
http://www.itechdynamic.com/en/productsCatList_en.asp?cid=2
I got mine on ebay $47.70 after shipping.
I use the Scala Rider, and think it's great. Got mine on eBay for less than ½ the RRP.
Does any of these Bluetooth motorcycle headsets A2DP ? I would like to hear voice navigation from TOMTOM running on my TyTN.
So far I bought headset for full face helmet for $40, it is ended with mini DIN connector, then made conversion to 3.5 jack and plugged into TyTN with 3.5 usb to 3.5 adaptor.
It works, but it will need some kind of amplifier, as I can barely hear it when riding.
So many to choose from, so many of them crappy.
I've tried the Sony ericsson HBH-DS970 and Itech R-35, the sony had good sound but too many connection issues etc, the itech only worked -ok- and had a flimsy spring/generally low quality feeling and glitches.
These are ones that I think -might- work well, I've probably overlooked some: Nokia BH-500, SIEMENS HHB-750, SONY DR-BT10CX, Sony Ericcson HBH-DS200, Jabra BT320s, Plantronics 260.
I need good sound quality and it needs to...work.
Anyone?
Plantronics discovery 640e
Right now it is 59.99 after 20 mail in rebate at radioshack in US. Wife approved! I took back all the Moto ones I bought cuz the little misses hated the sound. I use the Kenwood BT1000 that is intergrated into my car stereo when driving. Love it!
Sorry! I just Re-read the post..... this is NOT stereo bt headset
The Motorola s705's work great with my 8525. You can use on earbuds also.
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Looks interesting, a bit bulky but I read that it works reliably, and issues? How good is sound and speech quality?
I have exactly the same question... I was just about to order some Sony DS970 but will see what kind of responses arrive here. Grkn, exactly what connection problems did you have with the Sony?
I had it a long time ago, probably with the default rom and little BT tweaking, but I remember I didn't get it to work properly, maybe I couldn't answer calls, I DO remember there were periodic stuttering. It also didn't have a clip.
But the sound quality was great, and It's very cheap on ebay, I'm tempted to give it another try.
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I had it a long time ago, probably with the default rom and little BT tweaking, but I remember I didn't get it to work properly, maybe I couldn't answer calls, I DO remember there were periodic stuttering. It also didn't have a clip.
But the sound quality was great, and It's very cheap on ebay, I'm tempted to give it another try.
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Be careful of the cheap ones on Ebay there were some very good looking fakes going around. Do a google search and you'll find the pictures... not easy to tell the difference at a cursory glance but sound is no way as good.
motorola makes the s9. best out right now. in ear, sleek, low profile, and great for working out and running with. sound quality is awsome, gets even better if you tweak your ad2p. = )
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I have exactly the same question... I was just about to order some Sony DS970 but will see what kind of responses arrive here. Grkn, exactly what connection problems did you have with the Sony?
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Sound is good but it's sensitive for range, just my arm in the way between it and Tytn causes sound drop outs.
Don't know if this is as sensitive on other models?
Plantronics 260
I really like my Plantronics 260's. Sound great, (especially with one of my roms ), and connect flawlessly. Someone else said his broke, but I don't stress mine physically and its been fine over a month now. I can't compare it to others though as they are the only ones I've had.
jUST GOT THE jABRA jx10 series2 and I'm quite happy with this one so far. Sound and range is good. Phone rings at the same time as I hear it's ringing in the headset. I hoped for a mini usb connector for charging but no such luck.
It comes with a short cable that goes from their special connector to large USB connector so I can use a power adapter I have where I can connect USB charge cable, so I can use this on my travels for charging both headset andmy tYTN.
oPS.. sorry missed the stereo part....
its all about how much you want to spend, the level of quality of music/sound you require, and the shape of your head and ears, and much of a goof you want to look like in public.
The Motorola Bluetooth™ Active Headphones S9 seem to be the most popular for now, and can be bought for less then 99 USD.
And they'll work with anything Advanced Audio Distribution Profile (A2DP) and Audio Video Remote Control Profile (AVRCP) compatible. (ipod bluetooth interface sold separately)
And they do have a built-in mic for incoming/out going calls.
These have inter-ear rubber buds ... that I hate its like having a rubber q-tip jammed down in your ear ... not fun... but some people swear by them. -- for this reason, I wouldn't buy them off ebay in case you wanted to return them without going insane.
http://www.motorola.com/motoinfo/product/details.jsp?globalObjectId=177
Mr
For me they're out of the question due to their cyborg look
The S9's worked pretty good for me, except the speakers blew out 3 months in. Now i'm looking for a new set.
S9... the way to go.
Lost my previous and perfect headphones...boohoo
I recently lost my beautiful and never gone wrong bluetooth headset. I still feel gutted. I looked everywhere as I am not one to misplace anything or so I thought. I went through the garbage too!! thats how upsetting it was. I couldn't and still can't imagine for the life of me where the hell they are.
So..yesterday after carefully consideration and bank balance checking...cough cough splutter splutter (bit short of funds at the mo but just enough left to cover some headphones)...I popped along to our good old friendly eBay site...
Found some S9 Moto and won them. I was unsure whether to buy them or not as I have read so much negative reports on line as to how easy it is to be ripped off and stuck with a low quality copy pair.
I have checked best I could and am moderately confident that I have won a legitimate pair as the seller has 100 positive feedback. Postage costs are high but feedback relates mostly to excellent speed of items received along with next day delivery.
I do hope they work well with my hermes as I want to use them whilst on the bus, on the treadmill, walking about, at college, jogging etc.
Fingers Crossed guys.
Heres the link is anyone knows what to look for (checking legit items against dodgy etc)
here
I have a Sony Ericsson HBH-DS970, realy nice sound only the playtime sucks.
No BT skipping problems.
How long is the playtime?
I've received the Jabra 320s, works like a charm both listening to music and using it as a headset. Sound quality is adequate.
Maybe 3 hours playing time
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How long is the playtime?
I've received the Jabra 320s, works like a charm both listening to music and using it as a headset. Sound quality is adequate.
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I am also looking into this.
Surely the best way to go is to get a unit that allows you to plug in your own headphones. via a standard 3.5 jack connector.
2 reasons, the headphone part of these units will be the first thing to die, you can just replace them instead of the whole unit.... and you can use whatever type of phones you prefer (also connect to an amplifier....)
My issue is finding one that has a reliable connection and playtime.
I don't mind paying that bit extra if it works and does it for long enough!
Any users of the HTC S100 about?
http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=140285
I have a feeling th only downside of this unit might be that if I stick in my Sony Fontopia earbuds then the hands free part won't have it.... no-one seems to know!
Coming from the d1. My thunderbolt sounds like crap when in my pocket and driving in my car I can't hear most of the time. Volume up and changed tones and still not happy for such a big speaker. So any volume hacks?
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Coming from the d1. My thunderbolt sounds like crap when in my pocket and driving in my car I can't hear most of the time. Volume up and changed tones and still not happy for such a big speaker. So any volume hacks?
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kinda surprises me, this phone is a good deal louder than my evo was with volume hacks. But I don't think we'll see any yet. Probably not until the kernal source code is released anyway.
*EDIT* figuired I'd mention that you posted in the wrong section. Should be in general.
Thinkin about drillin' some holes in the kickstand.
Or you can get a ROM that has the DSP Manager and see if you can't tweak the sound. I don't know if it works with ringing/verifications though.
Perhaps taking it out of your pocket will not dampen the sound
Damn your right about wrong sections. Sorry can the mods move it please thank you...but I hate the speaker sounding like crap the kick stand hurts it more I think.... I can hear my d1 in club..well thanks for your post
put it on vibrate also, so when in your pocket you will feel the rumble.
I agree with the volume issue, coming from a D1 myself. The other issue that I find is that when I plug it in my car stereo, via the headphone jack, the volume is much lower than the D1, so I end up with a fair amount of hiss, due to having to turn the volume up on the stereo.
The kickstand could use a couple holes in it. I really wish that they had switched the side that it opens on, that way we could charge it while using the kickstand.
I have the same problem, coming for Droid1. It's a shame how highly advertised the speaker on the TB is, but it sounds so much worse than my old Droid.
I knew some guys who were audio engineers for Sony-Ericsson, and they said that the biggest hurdle they face in designing speakers for phones is how thin the phones are. Good sound needs depth to the speakers, so it makes no sense to me why a phone like the D1 can have a speaker in a space that is a little more than half of the TB, and sound so much louder and better than the TB.
Wonder if you have a bad unit. I carry mine in my shirt pocket all day and I keep turning the volume down because it is so loud.
Just a thought
I swear mine is so loud I've never been happier. I had mine in my gym bag downstairs yesterday and I could still clearly hear the ringer at the other end of the house. I'm ALWAYS turning down the external speaker when using turn by turn or speaker phone. I mean this thing is LOUD Best speaker I've ever had in a phone.
I'd consider going to the store and seeing if the units there are louder to your ear, you may have defective units.
The speaker is fantastic if the kickstand isn't in the way. Otherwise the highs are muffled and overall volume is lower than it normally would be without a LARGE CHUNK OF METAL COVERING IT.
I do have a slight hearing deficit. I was on the original Moto Droid and then upgraded to the thunderbolt. I was subject to using the Old Spice jingle because it was loud so I could hear it from across the room or on my nightstand as I slept. I downloaded the same jingle and it just doesnt work. I really have to listen to it to make it out.
I'm glad its not just me. But still there has got to be something.
So I fell into water with my new HTC one a few weeks ago and I was able to dry everything out and get the phone working. It was actually almost perfect except for there being some static through the speaker when on phone calls. There is however no static in speaker phone. Well just now the speaker became worse and now I can barely hear people on the phone. I was wondering if there is anyway the speaker can be switch to the other speaker that uses speaker phone while on calls?
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So I fell into water with my new HTC one a few weeks ago and I was able to dry everything out and get the phone working. It was actually almost perfect except for there being some static through the speaker when on phone calls. There is however no static in speaker phone. Well just now the speaker became worse and now I can barely hear people on the phone. I was wondering if there is anyway the speaker can be switch to the other speaker that uses speaker phone while on calls?
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So if I am understanding this clearly, the speaker you put up next to your ear has static, but the dual speakers for the loud speakers work well?
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So if I am understanding this clearly, the speaker you put up next to your ear has static, but the dual speakers for the loud speakers work well?
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Yeah. I used to be able to still make out what people say when I put it up to my ear even with the static but it has gotten worse now to the point that I cant understand them. The dual speaker works perfect.
The two speakers that you speak of I believe are separate from the headset speaker that is used for when the phone is placed to your head. I was looking at some tear down pictures from ifixit but couldn't really make out anything.
It must be very cumbersome, but at least the phone works after being in the water.
Edit: This may sound weird, but back when I had a 4th gen iPod with a touch wheel, most people including me had problems where the headphones sounded like they were blown out and producing static. Not sure where I heard to do this, but putting the inside of the headphone barely on your lips and blowing in and sucking would make the speaker push in and out. Weirdly enough, this fixed the problem we had with the headphones.
Not saying that you should try this, but I wonder if the speaker needs to be flexed and pushed around a bit.
Yeah it sucks that I can't talk to anyone without having the phone on speakerphone. I attempted the blowing in technique but didn't seem to do anything. Thanks for the idea. What I was really hoping for was that there was a software way to porting the incoming calls to the other speakers (speaker phone speakers) on low volume. I am not sure if this is possible though.