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As a regular contributor to various motor car forums I am always amazed at how idiots destroy perfectly serviceable cars in an attempt to 'improve' them. Anyway - today, I am one of those idiots.
I recently purchased a QTEK 2020 which I got a bit cheap on account of it not having 'iMate' written on it. Before I get really into it and put software and stuff on it, I'd like to upgrade my ROM from 1.66 to 1.72, which I have found on this site. Do I have to go through all of the xda2nbftool stuff (which I more or less understand)? Presumably yes, to change the Operator (only?). I'm quite happy for the machine to think that it is an iMate, but presumably this does not work!
I am happy with my machine. It hasn't crashed yet. But it annoys me that it might not be quite as good as yours...
(I so feel like one of those people who wants to remove his cylinder head and replace it with pineapple's to make the engine run sweeter)
i dont really understand what you are asking
are you asking
1 about changing operator and so sim locking ?
2 are you asking if you need the pretty manual xda2nbftool way to upgrade xda2's ?
3 are you asking if it will work upgrading to 1.72 ?
1 you can sim unlock your device without changing rom
a rom never require you to use a special operator but the preset settings will be the operators who put out the rom
2 yes currently it's the only way with time people are likely to make it a bit more gui like the xdatools for xda1
3 it should work but some people are reporting issues with it or maybe that was the beta of 1.72
read about the exp of others in the posts about 1.72
Sorry - it's a simple question.
If I had an iMate I could just use the RUXXX upgrade without any fuss to upgrade to 1.72
However, I have a QTEK 2020. I guess therefore I have to use xda2nbftool to modify the operator name to QTEK - otherwise it will not work (despite the 2 devices being identical). I do not want to unlock a SIM or anything else (it is unlocked by default).
Just looking for confirmation of the above paragraph!
I read about the experience of others using the 'official' 1.72 and it seems okay (better battery life etc.)
Cheers
there are 2 errors i think which stop people from just flashing their xda2 flavor with any rom update in the form of an exe file
1 is country code error if the rom is released in one country it often have a block which will stop people from upgrading their another country xda2 with it, not sure why they do that
2 maybe a form of device block so you dont upgrade your qtek with the imate
i'm sure if you had an imate and the country code dident differ you would be able to upgrade without using xda2nbftool
with time a GUI tool like xdatools for xda1 will come and you'll be able to get around all these blocks without having to type
and such
If you want to upgrade your Qtek to Imate's 1.72 ROM, yes, you need to do all that stuff.
It's actually quite simple, the description on http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/HimalayaRomFlashing is full, accurate, and is actually suited to Qtek owners without changing a single instruction.
I flashed my device (though on the first go it ended up in a dead-ish screen and I had to re-flash) and it works swimmingly.
However, you might get somewhat nervous encountering such dead-ish screens; and for good reason, flashing is dangerous after all.
Perhaps it's best to wait for a Qtek upgrade, they seem to be holding back a bit, so perhaps they're waiting to integrate WM2003 Second Edition, which should be a much larger upgrade. Also, you'll still be covered by warrantee.
If you're having specific problems with your 1.6x ROM, it could conceivably be a good idea to upgrade to the iMate ROM (using the instructions on the wiki), but if you're not having any problems, or problems that also occur in 1.72, or which are a result of 3rd party software you're using; don't bother.
You are right that QTEK seem to be a little slow in releasing anything. In fact I can't find any detailed 'official' support on QTEK outside the pages of this forum. Their website appears to be in swedish and is of very little use!
The QTEKCorporation website doesn't even list the 2020! Strange, as I understand that HTC own QTEK.
Most vendors (Expansys for example) list the 2020 as 'discontinued' (which is how I managed to negotiate a big discount!)
I tried to gatecrash club-iMate but they didn't like my IMEI number, and when I asked why not they said that they don't support my device.
I don't really care (assuming that my machine never has a problem...) and is it seems to do everything I want it to, I'll wait before updating the ROM. Maybe something will come from QTEK eventually - although I am not sure from where!!
Cheers
well qtek were the first ones out with 1.66 it came on my device before most people had gotten 1.60
beljames said:
As a regular contributor to various motor car forums I am always amazed at how idiots destroy perfectly serviceable cars in an attempt to 'improve' them. Anyway - today, I am one of those idiots.
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Who am I to contradict you? ;-)
Seriously: don't do the upgrade yet. Why?
- 1.72 has well-known problems. First, ClearType has become much worse - text just doesn't look as good as with older versions. Second, quite a few people report hangs that needed a hard reset (and cause a loss of all data). See, for example, the pages 45 - 50 of the PocketZenPhone thread in this forum. With my ROM version (1.60) I never had to hard-reset a single time. And I tried quite a few programs, some less buggy, some more buggy.
- also, although there are detailed instructions, things can always go wrong. And if that happens, you may need a bit of experience to sort them out. So wait a few more week, enjoy your device, read forums, and gain experience.
Cheers
Daniel
I have 1.72 for some time now and:
- it *never* crashed (I have to do soft reset from time to time like in any other release though, but no hang or anything)
- clear type is fixed. There's a post about a .cab to install which fixes the problem. ClearType is now great on 1.72
- my battery life improved over previous versions and I have a unit that can stand up to three days connected to my BT headset (a bluetrek G2) with me talking 2 to 3 hours a day and doing PDA stuff
so I would recommend you move on
Hi beljames, really I can understand you! I've almost destroyed a lot of good working car engines trying to "improve" them... :lol:
So: if you want to do this with your brand new QTEK 2020 go there
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=9060
and read carefully.
All worked fine for me. I upgraded from 1.66 ITA to 1.70 EN and my QTEK works perfectly!
About the cleartype problem you can find a fix in this forum: it works too.
I've also added a N2Ox system and a small turbocharger... it's a little bit heavier, yes, but it runs like a rocket! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Good balanced opinions!!
I think I'll wait a while to see if it annoys me. One single hang and I'll upgrade. Screw it up in Ghana and you don't get a lot of 1 to 1 technical support!!
By the way - I find it far easier to read the screen with Cleartype switched off (and mine is 1.66). Cleartype makes me squint!
An Loxodont - assuming that you are Italian, you will be amused to hear that the one car I used to lunch very frequently was an Alfa 33. Used to blow the inlet manifold clean off almost weekly.
- 1.72 has well-known problems. First, ClearType has become much worse - text just doesn't look as good as with older versions. Second, quite a few people report hangs that needed a hard reset (and cause a loss of all data).
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in defence of 1.72 then i have had both these issues with 1.66
Go for it....
Hi all,
just to let you know I also upgraded my Qtek 2020 from 1.66 to i-mate 1.72 following the "manual steps" to overryde the country code error and it works fine. The steps are simplier than it seems and i did it in 5 minutes. The upgrade itself is quite boring....it took almost one hour to complete the upgrade on all stacks.
One thing i can tell you: after the upgrade the device gets faster and it seems it has a "new" battery.
The cleartype prob is solved and forgotten with the right patch.
The only problem i still get is the stupid i-mate logo at startup and i can't seem to get rid of it. I want my old qtek logo back....
If i can give advise on this: Just go for it.....
Portuguese do it better....and we will win Euro2004 !
The only problem i still get is the stupid i-mate logo at startup and i can't seem to get rid of it. I want my old qtek logo back....
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maybe this guide can help you get your old pic or a new and more fancy one as bootImage
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=3759
Help, i want to upgrade my UK (English) XDA IIto WM2003SE, having had a quick look at the posts on here ive seen a Dutch version and an Australian version.
I dont want make my XDA into a doorstop so does anyone from UK who have upgraded to WM2003SE have a link to a ROM they have used successfully.
Ta
Not a problem at all
Hi,
I've just put on WM2003SE a few days ago. Few quirks but I can live With them. Mines the Irish model but the Irish and UK upgrades have always been the same so I don't see this being a problem for you.
ftp://xda:[email protected]/HimalayaSE206/windowsmobile2003se.exe
You also might want to upgrade to ActiveSync 2.8 as well. Not sure if you have to, though.
I just ran the setup and it worked. To be safe, don't use your somputer while the upgrade is being done and make sure that your XDAII is fully charged.
Problem
Hello, I have the English XDA II, and when I tryied to install this rom it answered me back with a message: error 120, country code error.
does anyone have any Idea of what to do?
Hi,
That brand it has its pda?
Re: Not a problem at all
ranger said:
Hi,
I've just put on WM2003SE a few days ago. Few quirks but I can live With them. Mines the Irish model but the Irish and UK upgrades have always been the same so I don't see this being a problem for you.
ftp://xda:[email protected]/HimalayaSE206/windowsmobile2003se.exe
You also might want to upgrade to ActiveSync 2.8 as well. Not sure if you have to, though.
I just ran the setup and it worked. To be safe, don't use your somputer while the upgrade is being done and make sure that your XDAII is fully charged.
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hey folks, I just did the same as ranger did and now have a nice new wm2003se on my Irish xda ii as of 5 mins ago. looks pretty cool. cheers for that ranger. btw ranger, have you put all your O2 specific stuff back on? I see the text messages and all are working grand but what about gprs & O2 active etc? cheers m8
I don't use GPRS. Any internet related stuff I do while I'm docked in work. Got a nice fat 1MB line each way.
O2 Active Sync. I'm glad I got rid of it. It was awful. It was the one Internet 'App' that I could not get working over docked internet. It insisted on a GPRS connection to give O2 more money.
I suppose I should have recorded my GPRS settings before I flashed, but not to worry.
Thanks for that ranger, when u install it does it wipe out all your existing installed programs and data?
It wipes everything.
OS ROM, Extended ROM and updates the Radio stack.
There will be nothing left of the original software if you do the normal install. Then again, if you obtain certain tools from this website you may just be able to flash the OS ROM only.
I didn't bother as I didn't really care either way.
upgrade way back?
If after using your WM2003SE ROM I still wish to return to a regular O2 ROM:
Do you advise me to make an O2 ROM backup (something I should first learn), or can I re-install the regular O2 ROM (WM2003) from the o2source site without hickups?
I'm not sure
That I'm not sure about. There maybe topics somewhere here on the forum that might say if it's possible or not.
I haven't tried it myself but I may do in the future. There are some things I'm not happy about in WM2003SE but the pros far outway the cons.
My device can be very un-responsive at times
There are only 3 alarms rather than the 4 with the O2 source.
It probably wouldn't so any harm to back up your ROM beforehand, though.
WM2003SE Diamond 1.2 Succesfully installed
I tried this http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=104422#104422
Very complete and it seems to have good support and outlook for next versions
XDA II O2 UK
PH10A Himalaya
ROM 2.06.00WWE 06/14/04
Radio 1.18.00
Protocol 1337.38
ExtROM Diamond 1.2se
Serial v0.26b
HERMIMG_O2_1.25.207.1_SHIP.nbh
http://www.o2online.de/o2/kunden/technikundeinst/exclusive/xda/xdatrion/index.html?nidx=1
did not test it yet - will do when i´m back home and have a few mins spare time
finally! thanks for the headsdup!
@dutty
give it a try please and let me (us) know if you notice any fixes or improvements
Wiki updated, and ROM moved to safe heaven in FTP:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Upgrades
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Hermes/Shipped_Complete_Updates/O2_1.25.207.1_GER.exe
Thanks guys
okay. it's flashed, i havent noticed anything different tho!
screenalignment issues are still present and there is only one new cab : suspend_resume_null.cab not sure what it does as i really see no difference.
i wonder why they never release any changelogs..
dutty said:
okay. it's flashed, i havent noticed anything different tho!
screenalignment issues are still present and there is only one new cab : suspend_resume_null.cab not sure what it does as i really see no difference.
i wonder why they never release any changelogs..
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The screen alignment issue is a hardware fault, about this problem this is the email that I have received by htc europe:
Good Afternoon,
There are now procedures in place for fixing the Screen alignment issue with the TyTN devices. This is a hardware issue that we have identified and we are offering a replacement to owners of affected devices with two conditions.
1: The device must be returned with all accompanying accessories.
Everything that was in the box when you bought the device must be in the box when you return it.
2: The device must be a Genuine HTC Badged device. This means that the device cannot be a Vodafone v1605, an O2 XDA Trion, a T-Mobile Vario II or any other device based on the TyTN, but that is not actually a TyTN. For these devices, you must contact the Network/Reseller for further advice on this issue.
If you meet these two provisions, you may contact your nearest repair centre to arrange the swap. Please place everything back into the original box and arrange to have the device picked up. It will then be tested to confirm that it has the problem, and then it will be swapped for a replacement unit.
If you are unable to return everything, you will be eligible for a repair under the warranty. For this also, you can contact your nearest repair centre to arrange this.
I must note that this email is a standard answer. Other people have received the same email.
Hi,
does it exist O2 English ROM yet ?
Hello,
can anyone tell me the version and date from the file SAPSettings.exe in the windows-directory from the new O2-Update?
Thanks
Mad_M said:
Hi,
does it exist O2 English ROM yet ?
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No at moment o2 uk doesnt sell the trion.
You can find it only in o2 german
It is possible create a MUI for this Rom?
OK i am again disappointed from this O2 sh*t realease.
The GPRS/UMTS Radio disconnects itself and i have to hard resed my device again. Now i know why i moved away from the O2 ROM. I flashed my device back to the updated O2 ROM in hope the issue was only a temporary problem and will be fixed in the new update but its not.
I am considering to replace my device. With this problem i cant live for much longer time.
Overall i am a lot more unsatisfied with the TRION. The Wizard from Cingular didnt had those major issues and performed very well. It doesnt matter if the TRION has a 400 Mhz CPU inside compared to the Wizard it works more worse and I am going back to use my Wizard until O2 has a stable release of the TRION ROM. :evil:
EXT_ROM keypad .cab
Hey,
does anybody knows which .cab from O2 Ext_ROM is for keypad (phone dialer) layout and colors ?
Tnx
http://rapidshare.com/files/43432242/RUU_Hermes_O2_DE_3.54.207.2_6275_1.47.00.00_108_Ship.rar
here is officail wm 6 o2 germany
Okay so I recently purchased an i-mate Spartphone I have a couple of questions that I couldn't find thru the search feature.
1st I was wondering is the phone I have a Qtek 8500 (I think thats what I read on here) it only says imate on the outside and smartflip below the inner screen and say's imate on loading.
2nd when I use the camera all I see is static no picture... is there a way to fix this or should I load a different rom? I am thinking of running the rose or neo rom anyways (I have to get on my home computer and do the unlocks first I believe)
3rd I am also new to Winmo phones so I was wondering if there was any nice apps that anyone could point me towards.
Thanks in advance
spinn360 said:
Okay so I recently purchased an i-mate Spartphone I have a couple of questions that I couldn't find thru the search feature.
1st I was wondering is the phone I have a Qtek 8500 (I think thats what I read on here) it only says imate on the outside and smartflip below the inner screen and say's imate on loading.
2nd when I use the camera all I see is static no picture... is there a way to fix this or should I load a different rom? I am thinking of running the rose or neo rom anyways (I have to get on my home computer and do the unlocks first I believe)
3rd I am also new to Winmo phones so I was wondering if there was any nice apps that anyone could point me towards.
Thanks in advance
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The phone is made by HTC but is also sold as other names such as i-mate smartflip.
I have an i-mate smart flip that I purchased on e-bay and was able to use the camera just fine with the original WM5 ROM. Though I must admit that after upgrading the ROM to Erofoch's Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional for HTC StarTrek the camera works even better with the camera night mode option.
This version of WM6 works amazing on this phone, it also has BatteryStatus set up with safe and quick overclocking.
It took me a while to figure out all the steps, there is so much great information in this forum that it can be a bit overwhelming. I was directed to this wiki web page which outlines the ROM upgrade process step by step. http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index...Trk_ROM_Update
For the Mobile 6.1 Pro ROM that I installed I only had to stop at step 2 because this ROM does the rest.
I hope this helps.
Kind regards,
Rudydb.
Okay I installed the Rose Rom by pampooh??(probably mispelled hope does not offend) anyways still just static on the camera not a huge deal for me I have a different camera phone for that purpose just was hoping it would fix it may be that I just got one with a bad camera but oh well
Yep, sounds like a bad camera. In general, when there is a driver issue, you will either get an error message when you launch the camera, or else a blank screen, but definitely not static.
iMate, Startrek, 3185, and a few other names are all the same phone. HTC sells the phone to Cellular carriers, and they can name it whatever they want. With the phone nerds here at XDA, the easiest way to refer to it is as "StarTrek", since this was the HTC code name for the phone. All the phones are basically alike, except for the Cingular/AT&T 3185, which has a larger battery, and twice the ROM (64MB instead of 32MB). You can buy the extended battery and associated back plate on eBay if you want it. All the versions of the phone run the same software and operating systems.
Software:
Tons of good software out there. What you will like is a matter of opinion. I can't live without:
1. Microsoft Voice Command 1.6 - Gives you text to speech, and awesome voice recognition.
2. Coreplayer - An actual working media player for the phone (not crappy like WMP).
3. Replacement calandar/tasks program - Tons out there, but I don't like the MS one.
4. Games - Again, find ones you like.
Hi all,
Merry Christmas to all on this wonderful site
I have been using the HD2 from the last 5-6mts. However, recently noticed that the problem with not getting enough network on my cell phone, calls dropping, sms giving a problem. If I get the phone inside my apartment, get very less network, unlike other handsets where using the same SIM, I get excellent reception! I don't know if any upgrade is required or not.. below are the phone details.. I really don't want to give up on this beauty, I love it except for this...
Model : HTC HD2 T8585
s/n : HT03XNW03568
IMEI : 35412003737464001
OS : 5.2.21869 (21869.5.0.82)
Manila version : 2.5.19211619.0
ROM version : 1.66.405.2 (76641) WWE
ROM DATE : 01/11/10
RADIO VERSION : 2.06.51.07
PROTOCOL VERSION 15.30.50.07U
I trying to upgrade the ROM on the HTC India as well as UK site but keeps telling me the s/n number does not permit this upgrade!
Totally confused and don't have a techie mind here to apply ..so ne step by step help would be gr8.
Also read a few posts of people upgrading the HD2 to Android... Any specific benefits in doing so ? My battery life, call drops (no network) are quiet a pain with the above versions that I am using...
Cheers and thanks again to all for your help... please keep writing in with your suggestions / feedbacks..
enigma075 said:
Hi all,
Merry Christmas to all on this wonderful site
I have been using the HD2 from the last 5-6mts. However, recently noticed that the problem with not getting enough network on my cell phone, calls dropping, sms giving a problem. If I get the phone inside my apartment, get very less network, unlike other handsets where using the same SIM, I get excellent reception! I don't know if any upgrade is required or not.. below are the phone details.. I really don't want to give up on this beauty, I love it except for this...
.......
I trying to upgrade the ROM on the HTC India as well as UK site but keeps telling me the s/n number does not permit this upgrade!
Totally confused and don't have a techie mind here to apply ..so ne step by step help would be gr8.
Also read a few posts of people upgrading the HD2 to Android... Any specific benefits in doing so ? My battery life, call drops (no network) are quiet a pain with the above versions that I am using...
Cheers and thanks again to all for your help... please keep writing in with your suggestions / feedbacks..
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Your Phone is Vodafone HD2 Sir
Go to here and download with your S/N
the new LEO-S Vodafone UK 3.14 Stock ROM
see you, in Artemis ROM thread...
hi there..
Thanks for being the 1st to reply spot on...I have a few questions though (pardon my ignorance on this and please be patient)
- The version i currently have is 1.66 whereas on the link which is for Vodaphone it is 3.14... is it ok to str8 jump to this version or are there any other versions I need to first update and then go to the latest one ? BTW I use a separate service provider in India (and not vodafone).
- I have Microsoft My Phone on the phone which I have loaded all the contacts/sms etc on. After the download is over, am assuming I will have to reload all the contacts/sms again ?
- I am downloading the ROM upgrade file on the desktop (use Vista) without attaching the phone with the USB cable. Am assuming to run the .exe file I will need to attach the phone to laptop and then run the file ?
- Will the Radio versions get upgraded too ? As I think the calls dropping due to network issues is to do with the Radio versions...
Kindly revert when convenient, the download is ongoing on my laptop as I write this message...
Cheers and thank you again for your help.
Greetings from India
to each question above.
correct
correct
correct
no, you can't change radio on 3.14 roms because there is no hspl for it yet.
hi there,
Thanks for your kind revert.
Does that mean the call dropping thing will not improve with the new ROM... the Radio version shows 15.42.50.11U_2.15.50.14 where as the version I am on is 2.06.51.07. Hope this Radio upgrade along with the ROM upgrade helps cause the call drops are quiet unprofessional especially when someone calls from work... and I don't seem to face this problem on other handsets which are less than a fraction of a cost to the HD2...
yea going from 2.06.51 to 2.15.50 should certainly see improvement.
Hi samsamuel,
i have bad news for you. After two or three months of use, my HD2 started to drop Data, SMS couldn't be delievered sucessfully and I wasn't able to do any phone calls in certain areas. I send it for rma an got an new one after 3 weeks.
hope this helps
Hi there,
I just did a ROM upgrade... Thank you all in here...
Some more questions on it...
- I get the vodafone logo on the start up... hope that shouldnt create a problem with settings with my own service provider as I do not use vodafone...
- While sending SMS, it quickly shows sending failed. After a 2nd retry, the message goes thru successfully... ne reason why ?
- My WAP/GPRS settings are obviously gone and my service provider will call 2mrw to load it back again...only then will i be able to sync by address book from Microsoft My Phone
Kindly advise/comment on the above when you guys can...
Thanks again for your help.
Cheers!
gweurk said:
Hi samsamuel,
i have bad news for you. After two or three months of use, my HD2 started to drop Data, SMS couldn't be delivered successfully and I wasn't able to do any phone calls in certain areas. I send it for rma an got an new one after 3 weeks.
hope this helps
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lol, not bad news for me, i hate the 2.15.50 radio, its rubbish. i was being general, and the Op should see an improvement by moving up a few radio versions.
enigma075 said:
- I get the vodafone logo on the start up... hope that shouldnt create a problem with settings with my own service provider as I do not use vodafone...
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thats the 'splashscreen', its just a picture, you can change it just like flashing roms.
- My WAP/GPRS settings are obviously gone and my service provider will call 2mrw to load it back again...only then will i be able to sync by address book from Microsoft My Phone
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shouldnt need to wait for them to do anything
settings - menu - all settings - connections - connection setup.
Im surprised it didn't run automatically when the phone restarted.
hi Samsamuel,
Thanks, as always for your help.
- How does one change that vodafone logo showing up on start up or on shutdown ?
- I too was surprised as to how the wap/gprs settings didnt come on automatically... finally after around 14hrs of logging a complaint, waiting for 2hrs on the phone (literally over several calls) and visiting the service providers store, the WAP/GPRS settings were provided and I could get my contact list reloaded again...Now you know the level of service that we get.
- Any other recommendations on any applications / upgrades on the phone would be appreciated...Do you recommend I change the radio version as the current one that i have with this upgrade is 2.15 and didn't notice much difference in the connectivity area (which is my main problem really) though have used it only for a day as yet.
Cheers!
see the 'splashscreen watermark' link in my sig for the technicals of flashing splashscreens.
for recommendations, i rarely offer recommendations, except cookies home tab
i didnt like 2.15 radio, but its very VERY much trial and error, , no two people agree on radio performance. for me 2.10.50 and 2.11.50 work best.