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I haven't seen any post about the PDA2K...
I remember reading a lot of them about the XDAII and relative problems:
-getting GPS audio out of the car speakers
_...
I also remeber that the best solution seemed to be a car holder with build in speaker... would it work with the 2K as well (without forcing the Pins...)
As far you now is iMate going to come out with an official creadle?
Thanks,
Chris
i am not bothering to wait for the cradle... if the cradle for the xda ii was any thing to go by it will take ages and will be rubbish.
i took things into my own hands and built my own drop in charger for the xda iis.
i was going to post some pictures but i cant from my xda iis as the picture upload is not pocket pc compliant... come on guys - sort out the upload...
Don't wait.....
I agree....when i bought the cradle for the XDA2 i was really amazed to see how stupid i was to pay so much for so litle. The worst carkit i've ever seen.....
Now that i have my new Qtek9090 i didn't bother to wait. I just bought an Arkon powered cradle and it is just fine. I'm waiting for the audio adapter for the 9090 but i tried it with my old qtek2020 and i was amazed to hear Tomtom navigational instructions....mp3...click click.....and so on....
I'm now expecting the new audio adapter (they finished production today and began shipping) and i tell you it will do just fine.
Which Audio adapter?
Could you please be more specific regarding the audio adapter?
Thanks,
Chris
Arkon Cradle
iap sure...
The Arkon cradle (http://www.arkon.com/bluetoothgps.html) model CM745 is designed specifically for the Qtek 2020 and uses 2 connections to the PDA. The cradle has 2 USB connectors at the bottom, one to connecto to the 21pin connector to charge the PDA and another one for any accessory USB powered you may have. On the top of the cradle there is an audio line in wich connects to your PDAs headset jack to output the audio through the cradles internal speaker. The audio adapter is nothing less than a converter from the 3,5" cradle jack to the 2,5" PDA jack wich carries the sound to the cradle but doesn't deactivate the internal mic on the PDA.
Despite the simple concept design, i tried it with the Qtek 2020 and it works really well.
My waiting is due to the fact, i bought the Arkon cradle specific for the Qtek2020 because they told me it would fit the 9090 but they were preparing the new audio connector.
Note: You may have read somewhere posts about the 21pin connector beeing different from XDA2 to XDA3 but in fact (at least my Qtek9090) uses "apparently" the same conector. I don't need to force anything as some of the guys do...
How do you deal with the Arkon RF/speaker interference?
I read here that it was unacceptable...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=13654&start=0
how do you deal with it?
Saw another thread and started Googling. The Arkon "designed" for the Blue Angel is the "Arkon CM750 MDA III 3 PDA mount with speaker and gps charger".
Don't know about the quality but for £34.99 and free delivery to the UK it's got to be worth a shot. Look here http://www.morpethmobiles.co.uk/proddetail.asp?prod=X6AKMDA&cat=114
Best cradle for the PDA 2K
www.ProClipUSA.com
Finally there is a decent DSP carkit released by Carcomm (www.carcomm.nl) . I already have it here it only has to be build in in my car. It also comes with a mutebox that uses the left car stereo speaker to hear the sounds of callers and Tomtom. The partnumber CHFS-16. When it is build in i will make some pics.
Hi. I am a newbie here and I must confess...I am not a technie, just a simple person who loves his o2 XDA. Only problem I have with this baby was that I can only use the phone with a wired handsfree set. I remember reading somewhere that the XDA can be made to link with a bluetooth ear and mouth piece (like the Jabra bluetooth) by adding a component inside the XDA. Can someone please help me?
Thanks and may the XDA be with you!!! :lol:
I don't think that you can. XDA's (Wallaby) is not SDIO port, and cannot add a SD Bluetooth card. There is a camera that gets by the SD/SDIO differences. But no bluetooth so far.
Kegtapper
www.kegtapper.net
you can install bluetooth on an xda1 but it's not done internally. when i was still using an xda1; i bought a jabra 250 bt headset with an adaptor for non-bt phones/ppcs (ages ago). the adapter is the charger/holster for the headset. what happens is the adapter plugs into the xda1's microphone jack. you then proceed with the bonding process between the headset and the adapter. once bonded; there you go...wireless! the only drawback is that the adapter is practically dangling on the xda1; the attached pic wil give you a rough idea as to how this would look. others have gotten by this little problem by sticking the adapter to the back of the xda1...or on mounting it on the leather case. check out ebay or other websites; with bt practically available in almost all ppcs / phones you shouldn't have a hard time looking for a set for the non-bt xda1. should be cheaper too...
cheers
getting a adaptor to get a bluetooth headset working dont add bluetooth to a device
bluetooth is much more then headsets
Bluetooth and XDA
Is the adopter refered to the cradel that is used to charge the headset? If so where do you get the cable to connect this to the XDA ?
Max
I'm sick of trying to find a car cradle that has audio out, ps2 and 12v for charging!
Why is it that no manufacturers of xda cradles ever realise that some of us want to listen to mp3's in the car and have tom-tom voice prompts coming through our stereos!
Being right handed, I want my PDA on the right of the steering wheel, so I can operate Tom-Tom before setting off, or change tracks on media player. I did look at the Brodit pro-clip solutions, but they all seem to be for the centre console for my car (a citroen AX)
I've discovered that the driver's side vent mount has a removable panel, which means I can easily mount a small piece of wood (effectively a small flat shelf) for mounting a cradle, this also brings the device out of the reflective glare zone in the windscreen during night driving. It also means all I need is a standard xda iis cradle to do this mod.
So with much careful thought I've decided to do the following:
Buy a spare cradle:
http://www.my-xda.com/xda2s_other.html
Which leads me to the next question....
Has anyone got any modding experience with the xda2/xdaiis cradle?
similar to this old posting for the Wallaby...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=256&highlight=cradle
(although I couldnt see any of the images on this old posting!)
In theory, this project has 3 key issues to resolve...
1) Powering the cradle and Bluetooth GPS
Three options seem to be available...
a) The hobbyist approach...I've seen various "car-kit diagrams" like this one,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/files/xda_car_kit_circuit.jpg
but to be honest I have no pcb making experience.
b) 12V to 5dc cigarette socket transformer adapter to provide power to the cradle, and perhaps to the bluetooth gps for charging. This should be easier to achieve!
Anyone have any links for low cost solutions for this, obviously it would need to convert 12VDC to 5DC at 2-3Amps
c) As the xdaiis usb cradle charges directly from a USB power source, this seems an Ideal solution!
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=EXP_USB-CLA
2) Audio out: THE MAIN PROBLEM!
Ideally I just want to get in the car and cradle the device, no other connections being required.
Therefore I need to modify the xdaiis cradle for audio output...
Ideally, the feed for the audio should come from the bottom connector, when the xdaiis is cradled.
With this in mind, I found this article about dismantling an xdaii cradle...
http://en.pdamobiz.com/en/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42&PN=1
If you look at the images on this web-page, you can see that - at the back of the cradle on the opposite side of the usb cable from the 5volt dc input is what looks like a pcb pinout for a headphone connector...
is this right? Can anyone confirm this.
Would it be possible to solder a connector onto here (assuming the solder pads connect to the 22pin connector!)
As this would be far easier than mucking about trying to solder onto the miniscule pins on the bottom of the 22pin connector on the cradle as it goes into the pcb!
If it works of course!
b) modify a headset
I did consider modifying an old wallaby headset to wire it into my car amp
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/Connectors , does anyone have any info on the pinout for the himalaya/blue angel headphone socket? I have also tried a friend's xda II headset on the IIs and yet again they have changed the pinout! The audio connections are once again totally different, resulting in the "echoing" effect when one headset is plugged in from the other device. This means that the audio ground pin has changed since the xdaII headphone socket schematic! This difference is also confirmed by looking at the handsfree "pod" on both headsets... The IIs has one button for answering a call, where the II has two buttons, wether it is the same as the XDA1 (Wallaby) remains to be seen....
c) buy a PDA2k 3.5mm headphone adapter...
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=118289&sbadd=118289
Then use a standard lead to connect it to the hi-fi amp in the car.
3) charging the TOM TOM BLUETOOTH GPS
I'm wary of putting anything other than the recommended voltage (5VDC) into this device, so the best option is to supply power using (1b) or (1c) above, perhaps cutting into the supplied RJ cable to minijack psu to hook it up from the same supply.
While I'm on the subject of the bluetooth gps.... Does anyone knopw how long does the tom tom bluetooth gps work with a full charge?
Does it vary based on an active connection, or is it the same as on standby?
Do I need to power it in the car at all? Can I not just charge it as required at home? There doesnt seem to be much literature about the Bluetooth GPS reciever's battery life in the box!
Anyone care to comment on these ideas?
:lol: :lol:
I think the fact that no-one makes a cradle which provides audio-out through the bottom connector of the XDA2 is because the XDA2 doesn't provide this possibility. It's not the car-kit manufacturers' fault. Blame HTC.
However, I could be wrong... :roll:
My solution: I bought one of these XDA2 mounts ( http://www.pdamods.com/proddetail.asp?prod=A11XDA2MNT&cat=23 ) which works really well. It charges the phone and my TomTom BT GPS. To achieve audio-out I plan (eventually) to use the XDA2's headphone socket by drilling a hole through the mount's base in the right spot and using a 2.5mm jack adapted to play through the car stereo. Not an ideal solution, but surely must be simpler for you than trying to build a reliable (and safe!) 12V -> 5V convertor and butchering a spare XDA2 desktop cradle?
Just a suggestion... 8) Let us know how you get on. Good luck!
QUOTE 12V to 5dc cigarette socket transformer adapter to provide power to the cradle, and perhaps to the bluetooth gps for charging. This should be easier to achieve!
Anyone have any links for low cost solutions for this, obviously it would need to convert 12VDC to 5DC at 2-3Amps
Just about any mobile phone car charger will do.
Silicon s, you must be wrong :lol:
I have found someone that makes a DSP handsfree set with Audio on your car speakers, separate mic and all with the bottom connector. It even delivers laptopconnection for Dialup and GPS.
The overview
http://www.thb.de/showpage.php?lang=en&mode=show_product&cat=1&pid=2
Car Talk DSP
http://www.thb.de/showpage.php?lang=en&mode=show_product&cat=1&pid=2
The Cradles
http://www.thb.de/showpage.php?lang=en&mode=show_product&cat=1&pid=2
XDA docked
http://www.thb.de/bilder/take_talk/mda2_gps_big.jpg
http://www.thb.de/bilder/take_talk/mdaIII_large.jpg
MDA III - Important Information:
Replace file "Wavedev.dll" on your MDA III and restart the system. Audio response now can be listen via loudspeaker.
http://www.thb-service.de/download/MDAIII/Wavedev.dll
FYI, It appears that the replacement WaveDev.dll file offered by the car Kit company causes bluetooth headsets to stop working at all (not just in the car).
tfletch said:
FYI, It appears that the replacement WaveDev.dll file offered by the car Kit company causes bluetooth headsets to stop working at all (not just in the car).
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That's what I'm looking for. Have you found anywhere to actually buy them? I looked over the whole site.
How about this alternative cradle. I bought one for my XDAIIs and it works perfectly. Got one for the birds XDA2 and that work great too.
It provides power to either a wired GPS or charges a bluetooth GPS, it has a built in speaker and a cables provided to run from the XDA's headphone socket to the cradle. THIS THING IS LOUD!
One word of caution, the speakers in my car are shielded so I don't get that warning noise from them that I am about to get a call or text. The speaker on the cradle is NOT shielded and so you do get interference when you are about to get a call or switch cells.
http://www.pdamods.com/proddetail.asp?prod=A1SSSPKMNT&cat=23
i thought about using my 6601 as an MP3 player in my car as well. but since my eclipse cdplayer does mp3, i abandoned the idea
option 1: cut up a 2.5mm headset and plug it into the top of the device
pros: cheap and effective
cons: have to plug it in every time (and unplug it to take a call)
option 2: pair a bluetooth headset with the device, crack it open and wire the speaker to a preamp
pros: wireless
cons: ruin an otherwise good bt headset, music would be in mono
option 3:
http://motorola.digitalriver.com/se...e&SiteID=motostor&productID=36065700&Env=BASE
"transfer audio to hands-free"
pros: wireless
cons: EXPENSIVE, pretty vague description
option 4:
http://www.itechdynamic.com/html/border22.htm
http://xprnnews.xfn.info/itech/nightingaleBSH338/en.htm
pros: wireless, stereo, routes incoming cails through car
cons: i cant find it anywhere
its called the "nightingale BSH338" or the "Bluetooth Stereo Clip Headset"
if anyone finds one, please reply with a link
ok i did some more reading on the subject and i found this (page 2 of the forum)
http://www.seidioonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=CK8AG21MXDA3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=17149
Has any crufted an adapter that allows the use of normal 2.5mm cell-phone headsets to work with a TyTN. I like the fidelity of my awesome Plantronics headset, and I want to get it to work with the TyTN. Any luck?
Thanks,
-Humbert
Have you tried buying one from this site.
http://shop.brando.com.hk/htcstereoconverter.php
I just received mine last week and it works great, MUCH better than the stock headset.
Alan.
Edit: "Sorry mis-read the topic, this is to a std 3.5mm headset jack."
aw000002 said:
Have you tried buying one from this site.
http://shop.brando.com.hk/htcstereoconverter.php
I just received mine last week and it works great, MUCH better than the stock headset.
Alan.
Edit: "Sorry mis-read the topic, this is to a std 3.5mm headset jack."
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Not a problem, but thanks for the referral and review anyway. I will probably go ahead and order one of those, too, but really, I just want a wired headset.
Thanks,
-Humbert
No... I've been searching high and low. I've got a pair of Shure headphones that are amazing and have the 2.5mm 3-pole connector that works perfectly with my HTC Magician... I'd love an adaptor to just run them with my Tytn, but so far no luck.
Currently, I'm using a 3.5 adaptor and then another adaptor to the ExtUSB connector, so I've got no mic capability and two dodgy connectors between my 100 GBP headphones and my phone!!!
I'm going to take my Shures to an electronics guy and have him swap the connector eventually.
I found the following mini-USB to 2.5mm adapter for the Motorola phones.
http://www.theboom.com/adaptors.html
Anyone know if its compatible with the HTC mini-USB implementation?
kcchen said:
I found the following mini-USB to 2.5mm adapter for the Motorola phones.
http://www.theboom.com/adaptors.html
Anyone know if its compatible with the HTC mini-USB implementation?
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Nope, it wont work.
this is where our stores get their accy's from, you can get allot of good stuff here.
http://superiorcommunications.com/products/products.aspx
if you have a bussiness/Tax/reseller liscense (mispelled) then you can buy from here.
With the risk of a "me too" post, a 2.5mm converter would be worth money to me. I have yet to find one anywhere and am about to buy an extra headset and start "experimenting" and who know where that will lead. Probably to a new phone.
I emailed HTC America and got this reply...
Hello Michael and thank you for contacting HTC America. Unfortunately we do not make any accessories other than what is included with the device. There are some 3rd party vendors that do offer this accessory however; they are not affiliated with HTC. Please see the following link for one of them:
http://www.cell-phone-accessories.com/emu-headset-adapter.html.
Thanks,
HTC Support
I have one on order. I'll let you know if it works.
Michael
Hope?
Hi Michael --
Please let us know if this does work. This would be a great fall-back adaptor to use if/when my BT headset runs out of juice.
Thanks,
-Humbert
I just finished my request to HTC support. These devices do NOT work. No audio what so ever. I tried regular audio as well as the audio of a call. Nothing-nada. The adapter is stamped as "Motorola" on the back. Apparently the HTC version of the USB plug is not the standard "EMU" version that everyone else is using.
Michael
Ugh, why didn't they just add a standard 3.5mm headphone jack? That would have made everyone's lives a lot easier.
I just bought the Motorola adapter, ended up wasting $5 (not a lot, I know, but hey, it's money).
Maybe I should try for a refund...
If anyone knows any adapters that work with the Hermes/TyTN, I would love to know.
Well, I finally found an option that will work for me. My motorcycle has a 2.5mm plug for hooking a cell phone into the intercom system (it's a gold wing) It also has a 3.5mm plug for an aux device to the stereo. I got the moto hf820 from amazon for around $45. It is a bluetooth hands free device, but it also has a 2.5mm plug on it. So, the phone section of my 8525 now connects to the bluetooth 820 into the intercom through it's 2.5mm plug. For the rest of the audio, I am using one of the extusb to 3.5mm adapters. That way I'll be able to get my gps directions over the stereo. That is a long way around to do it, but the 820 seems to work out pretty well as a 2.5mm adapter.
MSHampton said:
Well, I finally found an option that will work for me. My motorcycle has a 2.5mm plug for hooking a cell phone into the intercom system (it's a gold wing) It also has a 3.5mm plug for an aux device to the stereo. I got the moto hf820 from amazon for around $45. It is a bluetooth hands free device, but it also has a 2.5mm plug on it. So, the phone section of my 8525 now connects to the bluetooth 820 into the intercom through it's 2.5mm plug. For the rest of the audio, I am using one of the extusb to 3.5mm adapters. That way I'll be able to get my gps directions over the stereo. That is a long way around to do it, but the 820 seems to work out pretty well as a 2.5mm adapter.
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Holy ****, what a rube goldberg device!!!! But, I like your ingenuity. I ride myself (BMW GS) and so I just may try to cobble together something similar to yours...
However, most people want the wired headset so that they don't have to rely upon bluetooth. I want a fall-back headset.
To be honest, I found the perfect BT headset, and so I'm not sure if I need a wired connection anymore. I bought a jawbone and have been using it for 2 months. I like it so much, I bought a *second* one for when I run down the batteries on the first one, I can just use that one. Sure, it costs me $120 a pop, but after using 6 different bluetooth headsets over the last few years, this is the first one where people can't tell that I'm on a headset. Yes, it's that good.
-Humbert
HHumbert said:
Holy ****, what a rube goldberg device!!!! But, I like your ingenuity. I ride myself (BMW GS) and so I just may try to cobble together something similar to yours...
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That it is! I have the Kennedy CellSet (www.cellset.com) on my goldwing that integrates the cell phone as if it is a 3rd party on the intercom. Makes it kind of nice because either me or my wife can take a call while we are riding if needed. Anyway, I had the adapter for a 2.5mm plug and they don't make an adapter for the extusb of the HTC so hey, this works. Not only that, the GPS audio and the phone audio are on two different channels on the bike now. Worked out pretty good.
Hi there!
I'm interested in that problem too. So is there an adapter what is working, and tested yet?
If not, maybe we should try to cut down one ExtUSB to 3,5mm adapter and cut down the 2,5 mm side of the headset, and then maybe it can be built together, and we have a headset, with ExtUSB port.
Is it a possible way? Maybe any alternatives? God I'll be really happy if we can do something to do with this
Could always try this
www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2006/08/18/orange_spv_m3100_headphone_adapter_hack
Massiv
2.5 and 3.5 fix for USB
I too have an expensive Shure headset with a 2.5 connector that I used on my Cingular 8125. I just moved to a Cingular 8525 e/w the ExtUSB connector.
I have been working with the tech support guys at Shure and we have sort of a fix. My Shure headset has a Mic so it needs a 4 conductor cable and the corresponding 4 wire jacks to carry voice to the handset. BIG issue. None of the current connectors (Ext USB to 2.5 or 3.5) carry the 4th wire! They will carry audio out over the 3 wires. . . stupid I guess.
So Mobile Planet and others now have a TyTN (Titan) Cingular 8525 cable adapter that is made by ORA and has its own mic, and answer/hangup control and ends in a 3.5 jack for a headset (3 wire). This means that if you have a 2.5 jack on your headset you need another adapter to reduce the 3.5 to a 2.5 (+/- $10.00 US).
Then you use the mic in the adapter. This is a real mickey mouse rig but it works and you do not have to buy another very expensive headset. You just cannot use the mic in your expensive headset! The cable is also a little long since the adapter's cable is about 20".
If you are thinking of buying a good wired headset then use the ORA adapter (Shure is about to come out with one also) and a standard Shure 3.5 headset like the SE series ($150+) which has a shorter cable. The two work nicely together. It is what I am using now. see link below:
(http://www.shure.com/PersonalAudio/Products/Earphones/SEModels/index.htm)
but they really really work well . . . and are worth the $$s
However, does anyone know if the HTC P3350 W100 Wired Remote Control(http://www.mobileplanet.com/p.aspx?i=145859) will work on an Cingular 8525?
2.5mm adapter for 8525
http://store.pchcables.com/spmoppxvat85.html
I ordered one and it works perfect. About $8 with shipping.
Rosbif22 said:
http://store.pchcables.com/spmoppxvat85.html
I ordered one and it works perfect. About $8 with shipping.
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I'm interested in something like this. It says it works with three-connector 2.5mm jacks. Does this mean stereo headphones or mono headphones+mic? I want to have phone conversations so hopefully mono+mic.
Thanks!
Hi there, I have a 2nd hand Blue Angel, and after looking continuously over the pda could not find the headphones jack, as the auctions I looked at said 2.5mm > 3.5mm, so finally found out i'm missing the lil jack thingy.
Am looking to purchase the jack for the bottom of the pda
Please PM me as I will probably not see this thread all the time.
Question: is there a funny usb little plug that goes in the bottom (into this plugs your headphones)? well this what i need.
cheers!
IIRC, the headphone socket is on the top left of the BA. It'll have a little rubber dust cover on top of it.
It isn't a standard 3.5mm socket though, so either get the smaller (2.5mm?) headset or get an adaptor so you can use 3.5mm headphones.
I've got a BA stereo handsfree kit for sale here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=497241
yes, it is 2.5 mm, since mine broke the other day i also researched a bit and found out that adaptors don't really work, we had this discussion in this forum before, the connector layout of the ba's plug is not standard, so if you take an adaptor, you probably won't have the full comfort of an original headset, like proper stereo, ptt..., maybe the mic won't even work. there are also a lot of other branded headsets out there, that seem to have 2.5mm and 4 connectors. so always test handsfrees before buying
HA! great stuff, it was hiding lol, I swear I went over the device numerous times searching, then just assumed there was an adaptor for the bottom (where the dock plugs into- the usb type thing).
thanks guys,