Change Slave USB XDA to master USB device? - MDA, XDA, 1010 General

HI everybody
All of us know SD slot of wallaby devices dont support SDIO and this is the most important disadvantage of these smartphones that we can not connect many prepherals. So this is an interesting challange to think about this problem.
I'm not an specialist in electronics and Just I read a message from coolhawk (http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=21120&highlight=rs232+usb+gps) and this was intersting for me, if a guy could connect a usb gps to XDA, maybe we can connect other usb prepherals too. If we can change the xda device from slave to master usb device, maybe we can connect many of prepheral usb devices such as camera, gps, bluetooth and network card.
what's ur idea
thanks

I dont think he is solving the usb slave/master problem with the gps, he is converting the signal to serial and wiring it into the com port to be read by gps software. He isnt actually using usb

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xda and bluetooth

Hi,
Anyone know how to connect bluetooth to
O2 XDA? Thanks.
Bluetooth usb adaptor F8T001
Use bluetooth usb adaptor F8T001.
The XDA can only be hooked up as USB slave. Meaning it can only talk to a computer, not to peripherals, such as bluetooth adapters.
What?
That BlueTooth adapter is for adding Bluetooth to a computer with a USB port. That is the Belkin adapter.
That wont work.
IF someone has seen something... Id like to know... but as far as I know its not possible considering the SD slot does not support SD/IO and a serial implementation would be bulky. Furthermore the USB sync connection does not offer USB host which is what is needed to use USB devices. To my knowledge there is only one or two Pocket PCs that have this. The toshiba and one of the Cassiopeias.
BeDammit
YellowTab... the ressurection of BeOS
long usb sync connection
No bluetooth on Xda.
Only option is to use a very long usb sync connection?
bluetooth with usb port?
Hi,
Anyone know if there is such thing as a bluetooth with usb port?
Thank you.
Yes, but it would not help you since the device can only talk to USB-equipped computers, not to USB devices. To use BDSM terminology, it's a 'slave' and not a 'master', and doesn't like reverse roleplay.
I am lost here
I just dont understand why there is no way to use bluetooth on Xda
since you can use a usb sync cable or infrared to synchronised the
xda & desktop pc. Can there be a blue tooth unit at the end of the
usb sync cable that hook up to xda to received the signal from the bluetooth adaptor that connect to the desktop pc usb port. I thought
it is like just cutting the usb sync cable and using sort of wireless
medium to joint their ends. I understand a little bit about xda being a slave device etc but dont understand the part that you cannot use
sort of connections or adaptors etc to transmit signal? Maybe those
guys from bluetooth,SIG, will look into this area. So far as I know
they only have bluetooth to connect pc to printer and keyboard.
Seems like they say something like the OS of xda will not accept
bluetooth etc.. Hope you experts can enlightened me. Thank you.
Yeah, no problem! Go stick a Blutooth adapter on the end of a USB cable........then come back and let us know when you have paired the two devices up.
Hi everybody,
I´m new in here, so please forgive me when I'm asking stupid questions or anything
several things I found out so far :
first of all, of course there is a difference between a USB host and a USB device, as BeDammit pointed out correctly above. To use USB devices, the XDA would need host function instead of its built-in USB slave used for synchronisation. Generally speaking, there are just a few devices offering both host and slave function, since there are only a few USB chips offering both (for the developers: Philips has just launched some new of these chips).
For PDAs with Compact Flash, there is a new solution, which you can check out here : http://www.ratocsystems.com/english/products/subpages/cfu1u.html
(If they'd only had a SD version... :? )
Nevertheless, a synchronisation via bluetooth should still be possible since xda would only be a slave. There are some guys here in Germany offering Bluetooth Headsets via ebay, article number is 3329163765. On this auction's site they say : "don`t keep telling us your xda has no bluetooth; we know that. Therefore you will be delivered an additional bluetooth adaptor " (sic!)
I have not gone further to this so far, for actually I don't have my xda yet... 8) , but maybe this helped you a little further...
<half an hour later : >
I got it ! I got it ! It's made by Toshiba, but compatible. Check it out here :
http://www.csd.toshiba.com/cgi-bin/...pfam=PDA Accessories&poid=209738&Adoid=140389
Interesting
Anyone care to look more closely into this product and give us some feedback? Unfortunately I don't have the skills to do such a thing.
Cheers!
XDAs do not support SDIO cards, only SD memory cards...
(And doing a search in older messages would have revealed this same answer, only about 50 times...)
I have heaRD THAT o2 MAY BE RELEASING AN xda with triband and 64Mb ROM c/w bluetooth. A dealer told me but no word on the net. The XDA 64i apparently.
Anyone else heard that?
E-Ten P700
Yes, I got a reply from the supplier E-Ten who told
me The new device with bluetooth will be call E-Ten P700.
It is similar to O2xda just like their older version P600 series
but this one will have bluetooth. Their P610 has wifi 802.11b.
But the new P700 will only be release Q3. Most probably O2xda
new release might be around the same time. Cheers

SDIO Hub/ expansions/ extra slots

Oh great and wise of you out there, a question,
Just like you can expand your number of USB ports on a PC by using a hub is it possible to expand your number of SDIO slots on your Hima (as per the idea of internal dual SIM holders)?
I came across this "mod" where somebody has obviously tried to double up on slots.
Would the concept work for the Hima or as per dual SIM holders does anyone know if there is a product out there already (failled to find on by googling).
FYI I'd love to add WIFI, Storage and GPS to my Hima but don't really want to be forever swapping cards or having combo cards wifi/storage where I'd be stuck once say storage ran out).It would be great to have my current 1G SD storage side by side with a new wifi card both flat against the back of the hima (inside or out space allowing) then I could pop the GPS SD into the top since that's the bulky one).
Thoughts/ insights much appreciated.
Regards - Mallow1
PS posted this over in buzzdev too and the feedback seemed to be positive on the theory but nothing re a product out there already or anybody else trying the same thing.
xda's cant host other usb devices
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=13031&highlight=usb+host
Hi Rudegar,
Thanks for the reply but I think you miss understand me. did you follow the link embedded in the "mod" text in my post above?
I'm not wanting to connect USB devices to my Hima. Instead I'm wanting to connect multiple SDIO cards at the same time (e.g. Wifi, Memory and GPS). The link I supplied showed how this was done on another pda via an aweful hack of the hardware. It seemed to work (albeit messy and probably not very robust) so I'm trying to see if there is a product or procedure out there which will work for our Hima's.
Suggestions so far have been to use a miniSD adapter to help bring the SDIO contacts out from inside the Hima (hnce hosting a splitter connection), strip a muliple card reader to donate card hardware or try to utilise the other I/O connections that the backpack uses. All of this is beyond my scope so I'm seeing if anyone else has contemplated adding more than 1 SDIO card to their hima simultaneously.
My analogy was to refer to a PC's ability with only one USB port to use multiple USB devices simultaneously via a USB hub. I'm not looking to attached USB devices to my Hima.
Any thoughts on the multi-SDIO idea?
Regards - Mallow1
any luck yet?
Hi Mallow,
I understand your question and I am also looking for a way to extend the number of sdio slots on my Acer N35. About a year ago I found such an sdio hub. Unfortunately I cannot find it anymore.
I hope you found a solution. I am very interested.
Regards,
Steve.
Mallow1 said:
Hi Rudegar,
Thanks for the reply but I think you miss understand me. did you follow the link embedded in the "mod" text in my post above?
I'm not wanting to connect USB devices to my Hima. Instead I'm wanting to connect multiple SDIO cards at the same time (e.g. Wifi, Memory and GPS). The link I supplied showed how this was done on another pda via an aweful hack of the hardware. It seemed to work (albeit messy and probably not very robust) so I'm trying to see if there is a product or procedure out there which will work for our Hima's.
Suggestions so far have been to use a miniSD adapter to help bring the SDIO contacts out from inside the Hima (hnce hosting a splitter connection), strip a muliple card reader to donate card hardware or try to utilise the other I/O connections that the backpack uses. All of this is beyond my scope so I'm seeing if anyone else has contemplated adding more than 1 SDIO card to their hima simultaneously.
My analogy was to refer to a PC's ability with only one USB port to use multiple USB devices simultaneously via a USB hub. I'm not looking to attached USB devices to my Hima.
Any thoughts on the multi-SDIO idea?
Regards - Mallow1
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USB Device (GPS RCVR, kYBD) possible on Hermes?

I've looked around here a good bit and can't seem to find info on the USB functions of this device (I have an 8500). I've read where somebody got an external memory card to work through the cable, but what I am kind of curious about is do other USB devices work as well? Ie, if I get a cable with the appropriate ends on it, could I hook up a keyboard or, more importantly (and at the risk of "Read-the-massive-thread" flaming) an external GPS antenna (such as the one that comes with Microsoft Streets and Trips)?.
any ideas?
sorry if this is posted in the wrong place.
Jason
In any USB connection, there has to be a "bus master" device, which "directs" all the other devices, and manages the transactions. This operation is usually done by a PC; while there are other pdas (I've seen HPs do it) which can be "reversed" and turned into bus-masters, no HTC device can do this. It is a hardware problem, as the pda needs some special hardware in order to be able to act as a bus-master. As a usb bus can't work without a bus-master, two "client" devices (such as your hermes and a usb memory stick) will not be able to work together.
Sorry!
The Samsung S3C 2442 processor used by the HTC Hermes actually does have native USB Host support per Samsung's documentation here: http://www.samsung.com/products/semiconductor/MobileSoC/ApplicationProcessor/ARM9Series/SC32442/SC32442.htm.
Now if the wires are connected or not, that's a question I have not yet dug deep enough to answer. Maybe, maybe not.
The ETEN M500 supported USB Host while the M600 does not. These devices are identical hardware as far as I could tell, both using the Samsung S3C 2440. The difference is Windows Mobile 2003 on the M500 vs 5.0 on the M600.
This indicates to me that Microsoft has either omitted USB Host support which they previously included in the operating system, or a change in the OS has made USB Host very difficult to implement.
Hope this helps somebody figure out a way to hack USB Host onto our devices.
- Trane
Thanks for the reply Trane. this would be really handy to have working. Perhaps soemone else will chime in.
~Jason

[Q] SGS II cant read usb otg...

hi guys...i ve got the SGS2 rooted with custom rom...angelom 1.7 but cant read usb otg....any solution..???
manouvras said:
hi guys...i ve got the SGS2 rooted with custom rom...angelom 1.7 but cant read usb otg....any solution..???
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Did it work before you flashed angelrom?
i didnt try it before my friend....today i bought the converter from micro usb to usb......so...is there any service that maybe did not is enable in the custom rom....and cant run the usb host....
It's unlikely that it's the ROM, as this is a feature that many people use.
It may be that what you are trying to use simply doesn't work. Do you have a USB mouse you could try? Also, is the device that you are connecting powered, or does it expect power from the USB connection?
well...i connect 3 devices... a keyboard...a mouse...and a usb strage stick....
and no led...power on...of the devices
In that case, I suggest you ask on the thread where you got the ROM. Have you already searched that thread to see if anyone else has the same problem?
i did a quick search...but i didnt find anything important...well ok my friend thx....
manouvras said:
i didnt try it before my friend....today i bought the converter from micro usb to usb......so...is there any service that maybe did not is enable in the custom rom....and cant run the usb host....
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don't bother checking with more devices or posting in the rom thread, you just bought the wrong cable for otg purposes.
a simple converter from micro usb to usb won't do, the sgs2 discovers connected devices by the resistor between pin 4 and 5 of the micro usb plug inserted, and afaik, a usb otg cable needs a 200k resistor (if you decide to weld one in yourself, double check the number against other threads, i am not sure about that). simple converters, adapters and even some "usb otg" marked cables don't have a resistor in there.
and if the correct resistor is present in the plug, the device should discover the cable when plugged in, and then you can connect any device afterwards and get another notification. (as is seen in the usb otg video in the accessories section.)
i hope you did not pay too much on that cable, or have the possibility to return it for a refund or exchange, because yours has little to no known uses.
Thanks Chef, I didn't know that. That's the "something new" that I learnt today
thx my friend..i give 4 euro for this ****...but its ok....
i m gonna buy....this one of nokia cable....its ok i thing right... ??? http://europe.nokia.com/find-produc...cables/nokia-adapter-cable-for-usb-otg-ca-157

[Q] BST Dongle for Samsung and most Android devices

Hi,
Some of you might remember me asking in the forum to solve the IMEI problem on a Galaxy S3 NOT REGISTERED ON NETWORK.
I was not able to solve the problem even though I tired the impossible.
I came across a YouTube video repairing IMEI using a software and a piece of hardware and I was very impressed what this tool can do!!
So, I decided to buy it which had cost me 100$, but even though if it didn't help me solve my problem, I will most certainly need it in the future for ton of things.
It's called BST Dongle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RZZrQCm9bQ
Now, I saw some videos on YouTube but I can’t see how do you connect the UART r523k
I have that cable and I connect it to that piece of hardware which has 4 ports.
1 port service cable and 1 port USB OUT (I put the UART R523K there and I connected the other end to my phone)
1 port USB IN 1 PORT USB OUT, What do I put there?!!
Please I need help.

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