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Wow. It's lush. What a really good-looking phone. Having already owned the Kaiser, Diamond and TouchPro, I'm looking forward to getting my teeth into this over the weekend.
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Cool things:
1. Exchange and push email setup easily and working perfectly.
2. Great battery life.
Problems:
1. When I press the power button momentarily (in the hope of switching the screen off) it gives me power off and profile options. There doesn't seem to be a way of just switching the screen off easily.
2. HTC Today screen doesn't show all-day items and there doesn't appear to be a way of showing more upcoming appointments.
3. it's not easy to play solitaire! Although they have included it (phew) it's more than a little tedious with number presses. And there's no option for cumulative and vegas scoring. What kind of solitaire is THAT?
4. Sometimes it seems I need to press the "call" or "end call" keys extra hard. I have started pressing the "end call" key twice as a matter of course, just to be sure.
5. "Batti" doesn't work.
I too am searching for a quick and easy one key click to lock & turn off the display.....my Palm Treo Pro and Touch had this ability.....quick check email/txt, then hit key and it turns off display & locks for pocket protection....
baliles said:
I too am searching for a quick and easy one key click to lock & turn off the display.....my Palm Treo Pro and Touch had this ability.....quick check email/txt, then hit key and it turns off display & locks for pocket protection....
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Press and hold the call end key to lock the phone quickly (and dim the screen). This is the same as the S710 and S730.
You can also set this lock to kick in automatically after x minutes in the settings menu as well
rb14 said:
Wow. It's lush. What a really good-looking phone. Having already owned the Kaiser, Diamond and TouchPro, I'm looking forward to getting my teeth into this over the weekend.
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I must admit, I have had this a couple of days now and am soooo impressed (I have an S710 before). I had decided to go for the Touch Pro but after 3 faulty handsets and the experience of the really buggy software (does ANYBODY really think a daily reboot is acceptable) I decided to wait for this one.
But the one thing that stands out more than anything else on this phone is that with 3G push mail, wifi on full time, bluetooth on, a bit of GPS use loads of calls and general use, I am getting almost 24 hours out of the battery. That alone is worth the upgrade
networkguy said:
Press and hold the call end key to lock the phone quickly (and dim the screen). This is the same as the S710 and S730.
You can also set this lock to kick in automatically after x minutes in the settings menu as well
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Yeah, got there in the end. Nevertheless, I'd prefer a single-touch operation.
networkguy said:
I must admit, I have had this a couple of days now and am soooo impressed (I have an S710 before). I had decided to go for the Touch Pro but after 3 faulty handsets and the experience of the really buggy software (does ANYBODY really think a daily reboot is acceptable) I decided to wait for this one.
But the one thing that stands out more than anything else on this phone is that with 3G push mail, wifi on full time, bluetooth on, a bit of GPS use loads of calls and general use, I am getting almost 24 hours out of the battery. That alone is worth the upgrade
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My experience with the TouchPro is certainly not as bad as yours. I love it still. Originally the battery life wasn't better than a day, but it would easily last that. It was totally stable. Always. And once I upgraded the firmware and radio, it became a different animal altogether. I usually get two days out of it with good use. Sometimes three.
The S740 is actually for my less-geeky partner who I think will find it easier. Now though, I have it for a few weeks' "testing" and if I prefer it...
...well, you know. Who's in charge here?
rb14 said:
2. HTC Today screen doesn't show all-day items and there doesn't appear to be a way of showing more upcoming appointments.
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Yes, it does show all-day items. And to show more upcoming appointments just hit right softkey ("Today").
I'm thinking of upgrading from an S730, which suffers really badly from a lack of memory (64Mb). I know the S740 has 256Mb RAM but can anyone tell me how much is actually available after a soft-reset? This is the figure that's displayed as "Available Memory" on the "About" screen under the Settings menu.
Thanks
I'm wondering about battery life...
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I'm wondering about battery life...
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It's the best I have seen on any Windows smart phone EVER.
Today I left the house at 9, took the family on the train to London (a 2 hour trip) for which I spent most of the time with my son watching the progress of the train using the GPS and Google Maps whilst using the free WiFi on the train for data.
Push mail has been running all day and because it was central London, I got a good HSPDA signal for most of the time. I also made a handfull of calls during the day
We then spent the day around London (all that time on the underground with no signal always hammers a phone battery), I took a load of pictures and then we cam home again this evening (again tracking with GPS) and when I got home, the phone connected to the wifi and I synced all the photos back to my home PC. It is now nearly 10.30
So right here right now, my battery level is showing as 61%
boggle said:
I know the S740 has 256Mb RAM but can anyone tell me how much is actually available after a soft-reset?
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I currently have:
Available Memory: 125.34MB
Total Memory: 187.48MB
Please note that I have a few utilities running in the background, so available memory might be even a little bit higher when you first boot it.
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It's the best I have seen on any Windows smart phone EVER.
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My experience exactly. I don't quite understand how does this phone manages to get so much out of its 1000mAh battery, but it's amazing. It easily kills my previous PDA - TyTN II (which had 1350mAh) in terms of battery life in both standby and heavy usage
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Update:
Cool things:
1. Exchange and push email setup easily and working perfectly.
Problems:
1. When I press the power button momentarily (in the hope of switching the screen off) it gives me power off and profile options. There doesn't seem to be a way of just switching the screen off easily.
2. HTC Today screen doesn't show all-day items and there doesn't appear to be a way of showing more upcoming appointments.
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1 - Of course, this is a smartphone, not a PDA running WM6.1 Standard, it's the OS
I've received it yesterday and it works like a charm. Just wish there was a non-slider version, because the front keypad is good, that I don't need the qwerty keyboard.
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It's the best I have seen on any Windows smart phone EVER.
Today I left the house at 9, took the family on the train to London (a 2 hour trip) for which I spent most of the time with my son watching the progress of the train using the GPS and Google Maps whilst using the free WiFi on the train for data.
Push mail has been running all day and because it was central London, I got a good HSPDA signal for most of the time. I also made a handfull of calls during the day
We then spent the day around London (all that time on the underground with no signal always hammers a phone battery), I took a load of pictures and then we cam home again this evening (again tracking with GPS) and when I got home, the phone connected to the wifi and I synced all the photos back to my home PC. It is now nearly 10.30
So right here right now, my battery level is showing as 61%
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I'm with you on this. I was out of London for the weekend, playing, bluetoothing, GPSing, left it on all weekend and used the alarm, and came back with battery life to spare. That's cool.
karhoe said:
1 - Of course, this is a smartphone, not a PDA running WM6.1 Standard, it's the OS
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Yeah I know that. My point was probably poorly made. I was trying to make two points: that push email through Exchange is working perfectly with no issues and that setting it up was easy.
I so want this phone. As soon as I saw it online my jaw dropped, lol. Having owned 3 htc touches, a s710 vox and s621, i can say I do like HTC products, lol. I just got my 3rd touch, but it just doesn't feel right, the touch screen seems bad (my iphone spoiled me i think), and i can find a good reliable keyboard, so I think im gonna sell it and get another s710 until this phones comes down a bit.
Just curious, where did everyone on here get theirs from, and what kind of prices? I am in Canada, so I won't be able to buy it from a retail outlet
I got mine from Clove Technology in the UK and I'm sure they'll ship if you ask them nicely. I've used them for all my HTC phone purchases and plenty of other gear; they're very good to work with.
the 'amazing' 710
Guys
like everyone else I like the phone, however, I am just not getting the amazing battery life you are talking about.
From my phone on a full charge I am getting: -
Standby time - 6.5 hours
Talk Time - 53 minutes
Device usage - 4 hours 11 minutes
this is without Push E mail (polling every 5 mins) moderate use of wifi and GPS (less than 10 mins) and occasional but consistent use of OCS (office communicator mobile with power saving settings activated for those of you that know it)
so I wondered if people could read from their settings and post, I cant really handle another phone that needs 2 or 3 batterys in a day!
Kerry
S74 not S710
kerryburn said:
Guys
like everyone else I like the phone, however, I am just not getting the amazing battery life you are talking about.
From my phone on a full charge I am getting: -
Standby time - 6.5 hours
Talk Time - 53 minutes
Device usage - 4 hours 11 minutes
this is without Push E mail (polling every 5 mins) moderate use of wifi and GPS (less than 10 mins) and occasional but consistent use of OCS (office communicator mobile with power saving settings activated for those of you that know it)
so I wondered if people could read from their settings and post, I cant really handle another phone that needs 2 or 3 batterys in a day!
Kerry
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I think you'll find they were talking about the S740 not the S710.
Apologies guys
Typo on my part, thanks Pete,
I do mean the 740, that is what i am using, I had the 710 before hence my mistake!
I have turned off HSDPA, moved to manual polling on e mail to see if this improves the appalling figures.
Pete now I have corrected this, do you have a 740 and if so what is your performance??
Kerry
Sorry to sound a bit down. It's just that after 6 weeks of increasing hell with my Hero, sorry, Halfwit, I'm really, really missing my Touch Pro2.
1. Phantom Screen Flipping: No one knows the solution to this problem. My home screen now constantly flips to the right. In fact, any screen with an option causes erratic flipping (contact screen, email screen, menu screen etc). It's worse than a landed fish.
2. Random Battery Draining: Usually my Halfwit lasts a full day. Sometimes, though it drains within an hour, for no apparent reason.
3. Ringtone Madness: A couple of days ago I took a call. The call was instantly dropped. But the ringtone kept going. And going. And going.
4. Dropped Calls: probably 3 in 10 calls are dropped, either coming in and going out.
And just to be a little unfair, (but I feel justified): Sense. I've given up switching between "Home", "Office", "Travel", and so on. I could make breakfast in the time it takes to change.
Like I say, I know the entire Universe has had an excellent experience with the Halfwit, so before I return it, can anyone suggest a reasonably polite solution?
You could try flashing the new rom (again) to make sure that process went well.
If the problems consist send it back to htc cos it's not normal to have all these problems.
Yes, to have some many of these non standard issues at the same time, you must have a faulty unit.
I have never heard of a Hero behaving like that. Send it back and get a new one!
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1. Phantom Screen Flipping: No one knows the solution to this problem. My home screen now constantly flips to the right. In fact, any screen with an option causes erratic flipping (contact screen, email screen, menu screen etc). It's worse than a landed fish.
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Thats a bug when you open the 2G data connection
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=546206
Take that thing back and get one that works! That stinks you've had so many problems, definitely not normal or acceptable. It's a great phone, sounds like you got a lemon.
Sounds like a software malfunction or maybe your device could have liquid damage in it.. Not sure though, you should take it back to the store!
Mostly I am trying to see if this is an isolated issue with mine that might be fixed by rolling the dice again and re-flashing 2.1, but I'm sure people have interesting anecdotes to share as well.
For me, the ROM gave me severe overheating issues. Like, I would be in a heavily air conditioned room playing a video file, and after 20 minutes even though the outside doesn't feel exceptionally warm, running the internal temp monitor would show 98-100 degrees! This heated area was highly localized in the lower left corner, where according to ifixit the processor rests. Without air conditioning, even simply browsing the internet would cause it to eventually overheat.
To add to that, comparing 1.6 to 2.1 charging speed and general battery life seems to be much better after going back to 1.6. Whereas in 2.1 watching a 20-minute video could cut down my battery by 30 percent even in airplane mode, in 1.6 I lose maybe 5 percent in the same situation.
Of course even in 1.6 I am still having troubles with heat when I am in a hot environment, though I don't know if this is just the nature of running a modern smartphone in 29 degree C (84 F) weather. As an aside, has anybody had overheating issues in hot environments?
Several reasons include:
1 - Utterly crap, slow, useless & innaccurate keyboard
2 - Less icons fit on screen
3 - Only 5 home screen in which you cannot remove/add
4 - Wallpaper does not work properly, instead of filling one screen
it distorts and stretches onto all the other screens...
That's all I can think of now...
100*F after 20 minutes of video playback? That's absolutely normal. In fact it's kinda cool.
I'm back on 1.6 because:
No WMA support in stock or aftermarket players (RockPlayer did work, but that's no good for music)
I prefer the 1.6 keyboard
I like Dell's FB, Twitter and RSS widgets
I want my restricted market apps to be available
I do miss (from 2.1)
The eye-candy
Being able to charge in aeroplane mode (what is UP with that anyway?)
The dialer/contact app is great
Did I mention the eye-candy?
2.1 was very pretty and I am very much looking forward to it in an official ROM. IMHO though, it doesn't provide the functionality I need.
MSigler said:
100*F after 20 minutes of video playback? That's absolutely normal. In fact it's kinda cool.
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Seriously? I mean, what's the point in having a media tablet if it can't even finish a TV episode without an emergency shutdown? Is this normal for android smartphones in general, or is the streak just badly designed?
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Seriously? I mean, what's the point in having a media tablet if it can't even finish a TV episode without an emergency shutdown? Is this normal for android smartphones in general, or is the streak just badly designed?
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my guess is that the cpu throttling isnt fully implemented or that it doesnt support hardware decoding.
either way, i feel the 2.1 is pretty buggy, the facebook sync goes funny, the dell rss widget crashes every few hours, and a few more that i cant recall off the top of my head.
waiting eagerly for 2.2 to release.
I have to agree with the other posters...
- New icon spacing is terrible (what a waste of a big screen)
- Old keyboard was better
- Old recent programs menu was better
- Old camera UI was better
- Old desktop (with seperate rooms/wallpapers) was better
If the final OTA update is this bad I'm going to be sticking with 1.6 - and I'll be happy with it.
Updates are supposed to make things better, not worse.
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Several reasons include:
1 - Utterly crap, slow, useless & innaccurate keyboard
2 - Less icons fit on screen
3 - Only 5 home screen in which you cannot remove/add
4 - Wallpaper does not work properly, instead of filling one screen
it distorts and stretches onto all the other screens...
That's all I can think of now...
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Ok all of that is fixed by third party solutions. ADWlauncher rocks
Did anybody ever have trouble with videos in 2.1? I fixed my overheating issue, got it so that I could watch videos as much as I wanted in 1.6. So I went back to 2.1 thinking my biggest gripe was solved, but now, even at 30 degrees C (86 F), the thing restarts maybe ten minutes into a video.
Not sure whats behind this overheating, but i am running 2.1 since it was leaked without any issues, to be fair I have only watched about 30 mins of District 9 but ran fine.
I was really glad to see the back of 1.6, so many awesome apps were unavailable. As the other post mentioned most of the failures of the current 2.1 can be remedied with other istalls. ADW lets you set the ammount of columns and rows of icons, and up to 7 home pages, plus loads of other tweaks, themes and portrait mode.
I was super dissapointed with the new keyboard too, but the HTC multitouch keyboard is awesome and super fast with really good correction too, only thing that doesnt work yet is auto capitolisation as far as I know, and theres various skins to chose from.
For me there was also a noticable speed increase, this with proper multitouch meets my gaming needs with psx4droid. The dialer and contacts is a huge improvement, as is the stock gallery. Only thing with that is the proximity hangs sometimes and takes a while for the sceen to light up but thats pretty rare and I think that could be some app interfering...
I for one cant wait for the official 2.1 hopefully sligly ironed out release, this will nicely hold me over till froyo, which better be soon Dell!! Though I understand some people cant be bothered to tweak and play with it, just want it working out of the box. I guess coming from WM im used to that LOL..
Hello,
I know, I know... old problem, yet there is still no definite answer to the question of continous random freezes. My HD2 is also experiencing them (worked fine for about 3 months, during which it never fell down whatsoever)
but!!!
I knew from a few days before the first freeze that something was wrong. The bottom of the phone was getting incredibly warm while heavily using the hardware (watching HD vids, browsing web etc.) Me being stupid did not think of it till today. So once again, knowing that my HD2 would freeze, I plugged it in to recharge the battery. This time - enlightened by the thought of old overheating problem - I put it right next to the opened window - it was -1 *C outside. Results? No freeze! Battery fully charged for the first time without a random reset! In my case this is definitely temperature-related problem, it could possibly not be just mine.
The question is: How to lower the temperature? I don't feel like using my phone in a fridge or moving to subpolar areas.
EDIT @28.02
So far my theory is correct. Once I kept the screen on for 10 minutes and was far enough away from the window, the phone restarted itself (and I was not abusing the hardware; I was, in fact, just writing a text message.) Normally it would shut down right after the attempt to load and stabilize the main screen, but since I put it right next to the window at the PIN window, it cooled down and now works fine again.
muodypl said:
Hello,
I know, I know... old problem, yet there is still no definite answer to the question of continous random freezes. My HD2 is also experiencing them (worked fine for about 3 months, during which it never fell down whatsoever)
but!!!
I knew from a few days before the first freeze that something was wrong. The bottom of the phone was getting incredibly warm while heavily using the hardware (watching HD vids, browsing web etc.) Me being stupid did not think of it till today. So once again, knowing that my HD2 would freeze, I plugged it in to recharge the battery. This time - enlightened by the thought of old overheating problem - I put it right next to the opened window - it was -1 *C outside. Results? No freeze! Battery fully charged for the first time without a random reset! In my case this is definitely temperature-related problem, it could possibly not be just mine.
The question is: How to lower the temperature? I don't feel like using my phone in a fridge or moving to subpolar areas.
EDIT @28.02
So far my theory is correct. Once I kept the screen on for 10 minutes and was far enough away from the window, the phone restarted itself (and I was not abusing the hardware; I was, in fact, just writing a text message.) Normally it would shut down right after the attempt to load and stabilize the main screen, but since I put it right next to the window at the PIN window, it cooled down and now works fine again.
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Maybe it is the battery, you could try an inexpensive replacement one from ebay.
Well, ebay is off the limits for me, but I will surely try some cheaper counterpart. It's been over a week and thus far my theory is proving to be correct - low temperature = no freezes.
The heat might also be caused by lots of stuff running in the background - have you checked this out as well?
Of course I did - Task Manager is one of the 3 apps on the main screen. I always make sure nothing is running, be it an app, or an unnecessary process.
But yes, some of the applications do increase the temperature, however I find that normal... well, as long as the heat does not make my HD2 shut down!
EDIT @ 09.03:
Waiting for a new batt to arrive. I just hope this is just some minor energy output problem and that's why my hd2 is overheating, leading to shutting down.
Got my new battery from a pretty decent company. Normally after turning off the phone and even reattaching the battery I'd have problems turning it on again (would have took me several attempts); however this time it went very smooth.
Any update on use with the new battery? I have the same overheating/screen lock problem with my HD2. Mine has done so after taking a call and having the phone up to my ear for several minutes.
Unfortunately it wasn't the battery. The most common circumstances in which my HD2 freezes is trying to use the internet, followed by playing music from the Sense player. The only thing left to do is to return it.
I declare HTC HD2 and the HTC tech support piece of junk.
Final edit:
Sold my HD2 and bought Desire HD. <3 Android!
Hi there, Ive had a SGS2 for about 24 hours now and am about ready to send it back and get a refund. Its driving me insane. One one had, its a fantastic phone, looks great, fast as hell, really neat features.
But one feature I cant stomach is the 10 second lag I get when waking the phone. 10 seconds from when I press home or power to being able to open the lock screen. Is anyone else experiencing this?
I understand from other posts that this may be related to a power saving feature, but in all honesty, what other phones have this poor response time?
Does anyone have a solution? Ive tried rooting, updating firmware, kernel, lockscreen etc. No joy. It kills me that I have to send it back because of this stupid bitty issue, but I will break this phone in frustration in a few weeks if I keep it...
S
You should get it replaced. Mine is .5 seconds before it turns on. it's REALLY fast to turn on on mine. I'd say faster than my iphone 4. I think you've got a fuddy duddy.
I have a sneaky suspicion you're exaggerating the delay by about 9 seconds. I agree a delay of any sort on a phone of this spec is annoying (my MIUI flashed HD2 had zero delay) but is it enough to return the phone? Not in my opinion, it's a software issue.
I will be happy when a solution is discovered of course but for the time being there are more annoying issues on this phone. Like the constant '3G' to 'H' switching on data connection.
nope, you must have something faulty happening there. 10 seconds is not normal at all. not in my experience anyway. There IS a lag unlike any other phone when hitting the home button. I hate it too. but 10 seconds!? That's crazy. If it doesn't cost you then you should get it replaced.
Of course you could try rooting/flashing to see if it helps but then all that extra hassle if it doesn't work and you still have to return it.
'power saving feature' is not true... phone is doing the same as most decent smartphones out there in terms of battery.
despite all this, I love this device. I truly believe it is the best handset available right now. period!
Im afraid Im not exaggerating, just timed it, 9 seconds from lights on to lockscreen being responsive. Ive tried flashing it, Went from Vodafone BUKE1 to XWKE7 and no difference. Will flash it back to BUKE1 and send it back.
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Im afraid Im not exaggerating, just timed it, 9 seconds from lights on to lockscreen being responsive. Ive tried flashing it, Went from Vodafone BUKE1 to XWKE7 and no difference. Will flash it back to BUKE1 and send it back.
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Then your phone is faulty. Mine becomes responsive after about a second and has always been that way, even on the stock rom before I rooted or flashed VillainRom. An unusual fault though, as I'd bet my bottom dollar it's software related.
That's a fault. People talk about a small (<1 second) delay... Probably < 0.5s
My SGS2 doesn't even take 0.5secs, its almost instantaneous. you should get an exchange.
@OP- 10 seconds are horrible. Though mine also takes >1 second. But I have noticed that when the Phone is charging (AC/USB) it comes up instantly, the lag occurs when the phone is off charge.
Regards.
I have a small lag too. Sometimes up to 3 sec.
Seams to be a software issue.
10 sec sounds strange...
I'm thinking of a lockscreen replacement.
Is there anyone that will remove the lockscreen delay?