My second hand BA has AZERTY keyb. but it acts like a QWERTY. Explaining better: first Key is an "A" and write "Q", second is "Z" wriete "W" and so on. Is ther any patch to turn sor this issue? Thank you. I Forgot to mention that the BA was French and I upgrade to wm2k5. Thanks
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Hello all
I own the O2 star (Niki) since a few days and i like this phone as i like this forum and i wanna excuse me for my horrible english
One question to Niki: Is there a way to increase the time of keyboard backlight? The keyboard on my Niki gets too fast dark.
Hoping for answers and with best greetings
Cressari
don't really know how but i always just press the alt button, the one on the bottom left and it brings the light back without opening any apps or changing text.
Schap's Advanced Config has the setting -> CLICK!
Worked for me
which doesn't work on the dual
I was curious cause Schaps and installed it anyway. I could install and the program runs but the changes seem not to take place. Anyway thanks for your answers
are they different?
if they are, can anyone teach me how to change them?
i've just changed the hardware on my 16key nike into a 20key version, but the key mapping is still like the 16key ones, so i'm trying to figure out how to get it to recognise it as a 20key dual instead
i know the "Switch Niki 16 keys Keyboard to 20 keys" thread is just a few threads down below, but i though with this title it would be easier for me to get help. i apologise in advance if this isn't what i should be doing
and thank you very very much!
can someone with a 20key dual tell me what is in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINES\Drivers\Builtin\Keypad?
it may be what i'm looking for, but i'm just guess
thanks a lot!
cassio said:
are they different?
if they are, can anyone teach me how to change them?
i've just changed the hardware on my 16key nike into a 20key version, but the key mapping is still like the 16key ones, so i'm trying to figure out how to get it to recognise it as a 20key dual instead
i know the "Switch Niki 16 keys Keyboard to 20 keys" thread is just a few threads down below, but i though with this title it would be easier for me to get help. i apologise in advance if this isn't what i should be doing
and thank you very very much!
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Do not change the pid... That will not be a good idea...
joaosousa said:
Do not change the pid... That will not be a good idea...
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ok...so any ideas? i had not much idea where to start apart from the registry, which i didn't manage to find anything that seem to be related to 16/20 key, so that means i now have no idea at all.
any help will be appreciated. thank you very very much!
the PID of niki 16 key and 20 key is the same...
i said we played around with the PID not that u have to
change it^^
i said it should stored into the NAND that the device is
16key or 20...
i only had a little look into the keypad driver but it seams it
check something in the nand... evtl. it could be patched that it think
it's a 20 key niki...
but haven't the time too look into it deeper atm, woring still on the
WIFI-patch.
but u can check something for me^^ is the keypad connector for the 20key version the same like
the one for the 16key version?
Valvarin said:
the PID of niki 16 key and 20 key is the same...
i said we played around with the PID not that u have to
change it^^
i said it should stored into the NAND that the device is
16key or 20...
i only had a little look into the keypad driver but it seams it
check something in the nand... evtl. it could be patched that it think
it's a 20 key niki...
but haven't the time too look into it deeper atm, woring still on the
WIFI-patch.
but u can check something for me^^ is the keypad connector for the 20key version the same like
the one for the 16key version?
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hardware connector? i think it is, because everything just fits in place, and everything still works. which i why i'm a bit surprised that it doesn't work.
ok, just used gollum's keymap software and "clicked the keys to find their codes", and i found that ALT, ENTER, DEL and OP doesn't actually return a code
As I have the problem with the hardware keyboard (20 keys) I just flashed the original rom of O2 germany back and looked at HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\Qwerty\Layout. In the original ROM I have 1031 and in the Tom-Niki-Project-2.1.3 I have 2052 which gives me a 16 key keyboard.
After changing the value from 2052 to 1031 I got back my 20 keys keyboard.
Hope this helps.
cassio said:
can someone with a 20key dual tell me what is in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINES\Drivers\Builtin\Keypad?
it may be what i'm looking for, but i'm just guess
thanks a lot!
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Mines the Neon, but its value name is Flags and the value is 0. Hope thats what u were looking for
Author - you just need to change key mapping files. You can find it on this forum, cab file for Niki20.
I ordered a 20 key pad too, but it seems like I have to change the board with the flex cable too since the layout is slightly different and the additional 4 keys are missing wich I tought would be there
My new HTC S740 is excellent except for one thing - the keypad backlight goes out after only 15 seconds. Very irritating in the dark.
I've looked for kb_light_timeout in hklm/software/htc/keypad but this does not exist.
I've found keylight timeout and qkeyledtimeout in hkcu/control panel/backlight which looks like the right place but altering values and rebooting makes no difference.
I've also looked in hklm/drivers/builtin/keylight and keypad.
I feel I'm very close. Can anyone help?
Yes Its most annoying as well as fact that only numbers or keys round circular button light seperately. Look forward to someone cracking it. Otherwise an excellent phone.
I agree, this is very annoying.
So theres no fix for this issue? To bad no ACT for this phone. An awesome phone, just wm standard gets so little love it seems.
I did some research today and he're the results:
1. This is far of to be a new issue. First complaints about the keyboard backlight timeout you can find under Qtek models...
2. Apparently, they were just few (2-3?) HTC models supporting a registry entry included in WM hkcu/control panel/backlight/QKeyLedTimeout - Rose definitely doesn't
3. The issue could be a case of WM 6.1 limitation - Rose has in fact three keyboard backlight arrays with separate light managements (soft keys, numeric, QWERTY - try to use them simultaneusly and you will see - their timing is independent on each other) and I've found some extra HTC registry entries concerning power management confirming a bit non-standard settings. Unluckily, nothing useful there for the kb backlights.
Sorry, based on my experiments, I can advice you only one very strange way how to overcome it for now: Limit the display timeout to the same 10 seconds as the keyboard has. At least, first press of any key will become inactive and just light-up both display and keyboard. Until display works, all keys are still active even the keybord backlight is off.
Nevertheless, any opposite finding will be appreciated...
Thank you for your investigation
I have a new s743 and this is the exact problem I came searching for fix for!
Too bad - it really is a sweet phone.
-John
To me this is a winmo thing. I don't understand why this option isn't included from the factory. It is a plain "NO BRAINER"! It's been this way on all my previous devices whether pro or standard. The diff being the pro os has wonderful tweaks and various cabs one can install to set the time out. What we need is to get some tweaking guru to set up something like ACT for standard. Problem is so little love for the standard os. The screens are to small anyway for my taste. I'll just stick to pro, the tweaks are better.
Well, i set the display timeout on my device to 5 seconds. Backlight of the qwerty and numeric keypads went off after 5 seconds.
The softkeys remained lit till 10 seconds was up.
Hello,
I do write many many on phone, but don't want use qwerty keyboard. So, I will use numeric keyboard. Is it suitable for someone who writes much?
Thanks for any answer,
RA
I mostly use the numeric (for SMS etc) and I don't have any problems until now. However if you dont need the keyboard why dont you look for another (maybe smaller) phone?
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I mostly use the numeric (for SMS etc) and I don't have any problems until now.
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Thanks for your answer
Corduroy-21 said:
However if you dont need the keyboard why dont you look for another (maybe smaller) phone?
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Thats the problem...HTC stop produce smartphones with numeric keyboards and NON-touch screen. That's a pity. There is only S740 and HTC Snap. I don't know why the go like this. Writing with numeric keypad with T9 is 1. Quicker 2. More comfortable (I can use only one hand). That's a pity...
RA
Well, you can write pretty easily with the numerical. At least I don't have a problem. When I dont have time (or a second hand available) I always use the numerical.
The only thing I dont know is its quality. I have the phone for about 3 months now, so it's too early to tell you if any problems with the keys arise.
The Keypad is not very robust... it squaks and requires really hard presses as the phone gets older..
What i don't like about the numeric keypad is it's surface, which does not differ at all underneath the "joystick". That forces you to look at your fingers while writing (or am I too unsensitive), cause you can't determine if your fingers are on the key or between two keys (you really don't feel a difference at all, except that it gives "double haptic feedback" when you have pressed and when its too late cause then you already made two instead of one input ) if you don't ALWAYS LOOK AT THE NUMERIC KEYPAD.
Perhaps I just need some more excercise to intuitively press the keys correctly without looking (which was no problem btw with other phones that have little bars on the keys or a space between the keys).
I like the haptic feedback btw. If you press a key correctly, it nicely snaps.
Thanks to all!
I want to thank you all for answers. It was very important for me!
RA
yes !! type seams heavy . like htc tytn2 official rom . like htc diamond offial rom !! i worked with those .
My main problem is that the two keys for the calls are way way too small. OK they are somewhat higher but they are small. And that wouldnt be a big problem if you use a handsfree, but one of them is used for locking the keyboard and is annoying at times (I have to use the 2-key combo to lock the keys)
Did you try Danny Baumann's Automac Keylock? It's the best way for locking keyboard
Best greetings,
RA
Hello, is it possible to answer calls from the hardware keyboard? I have Samsung galaxy Y which has nice qwerty keyboard and a little bit small screen(very blackbarish). Is it possible to answer on the keyboard(predefined keys or something like that).
Thank you,
Dimitar.