As a new user/owner of the Siemens SX56, I have quickly discovered the limitations of the units memory/storage capabilities.
While I may not be using the correct rhetoric (please correct me where necessary) I am hoping someone might be able to help me.
If I buy a 256MB SD Card, can I use it to as a place to install and run programs, or am I limited to using it for data storage only? Can it be recognized as MAIN MEMORY instead of simply a "storage card"?
Otherwise, what are my options to increase memory/storage?
Also, COSTCO has the 256MB SD Card available for $104 CDN (plus 7%GST and 8%PST), is that a good deal or should I look elsewhere?
Many thanks!
Guinness said:
If I buy a 256MB SD Card, can I use it to as a place to install and run programs, or am I limited to using it for data storage only? Can it be recognized as MAIN MEMORY instead of simply a "storage card"?
Otherwise, what are my options to increase memory/storage?
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Yes you can install and run programs from the SD card!
No the SD card will only be recognized as a Storage card!
Your other option is to send your unit in for a memory upgrade.
Visit:
http://www.pocketpctechs.com/PPCPup.asp
HTH
Thanks for you reply Qman, it is really appreciated! Can you offer me some more detail though?
Qman said:
Yes you can install and run programs from the SD card!
No the SD card will only be recognized as a Storage card!
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Do I need to do anything differently when installing new pocket pc applications so that they are installed on the SD card?
Does the SX56 automatically add the new available memory to its configuration and then manage space for file storage and/or memory usage? Can I choose one or the other for storage of data files and/or applications?
Is there any difference between "Main" memory and "Storage Card" memory??? I initially thought there was a difference that needed to be considered, but now I'm not so sure. I kinda likened Main Memory to the RAM on a PC and the Storage Card to a mini "hard drive" ...which lead me to think that the Storage Card was used ONLY for the storage of data files. I guess I was wrong in my thinking?
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Also, COSTCO has the 256MB SD Card available for $104 CDN (plus 7%GST and 8%PST), is that a good deal or should I look elsewhere?
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the price you mentioned, in my opinion, is not a good deal. i was in hong kong and i was able to buy a 512 mb sd card for $114. you may need to search around sites for a more lucrative package.
cheers
robson
Guinness said:
Thanks for you reply Qman, it is really appreciated! Can you offer me some more detail though?
Qman said:
Yes you can install and run programs from the SD card!
No the SD card will only be recognized as a Storage card!
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Do I need to do anything differently when installing new pocket pc applications so that they are installed on the SD card?
Does the SX56 automatically add the new available memory to its configuration and then manage space for file storage and/or memory usage? Can I choose one or the other for storage of data files and/or applications?
Is there any difference between "Main" memory and "Storage Card" memory??? I initially thought there was a difference that needed to be considered, but now I'm not so sure. I kinda likened Main Memory to the RAM on a PC and the Storage Card to a mini "hard drive" ...which lead me to think that the Storage Card was used ONLY for the storage of data files. I guess I was wrong in my thinking?
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it is not true, that the SD-Card can be used to run programs. You can use the SD Card for your data and install programs to the sd Card. When you're running a program the internal memory of your pda will be used.
So you can install much more and bigger programs at your device, but the memory for running programms won't be changed. You see, SD Card is a little bit like a Hard Disc in your pc. You can install more programs and save more data, but you're still limited in the maximum amount of running programs.
You can install programs to your SD-Card via Active Sync. Normally youßre asked, if you want to install the software in the main memory. If you select no, you can choose between main memory and SD-Card.
HTH
Stefan
also the sd flash is a lot slower then internal ram
much like a harddisk is slower then ram in a computer
so if you could merge the sdram with the internal ram and access it as one pool it would be troublesome because the interal ram had to slow down to match the sdram or
you would need some asyncron access plan which would be pretty complex since you could be reading some data which were 1/2 on the slow sdram and 1/2 on the much faster internal ram
ok, and on reverse ...
have you come across any software that can not be installed on SD card and can not be run from SD card ??
regards,
monika
Yes there are some programs that won't run from the SD card. I can't remember which ones I've run across though. I almost always try to install on th esd card first. If the app won't run then I put it in main memory. Good luck - Jim
thanks for your response - good idea ....
try to install software on SD card first
regards,
monika
SD Card Deals
Guys,
Check this site out www.e-xcessories.com , They have really got great Memory Cards Deals, specially SD Cards.
I got my 1GB Sandisk today, very happy. Loaded loads of Mp3 and having fun.
Hello all,
I recently had to reformat my 2GB SD card, and now it only shows up as a 1GB. I have low-level formatted the card as well as all the standard formatting methods... Is there something I should know about these?
It's a Sandisk.
most probably fake??
the duo pros are on ebay say 4gb but really 2gb , it only shows once formatted , just a thought ?
There are fake cards on sales these days. They changed the `section` of the card to make it appeared 2GB on a 1GB card. I can't remember formatting the card will make remove this `section` or not.
Anyway, have you ever had more than 1GB of stuff in your card? Although these cards can report 2GB, it will cause error when you have data of more than the actual capacity (eg more than 1GB on a fake-2GB-1GB card). If you did have more than 1GB stuff on this card before, probably you need to find some other method of formating it (card reader? FAT system?)
Interesting. Formatting it from Linux would only give me 1GB, but when I put it back in the PocketPC, it formatted to 2GB just fine. And yes, I had put more than 1GB of data on it before. Well, thanks for the suggestions, and I guess this case is closed
is there a maximum size for sd cards in xda's... im having problems with my 4gb sd... is this a common problem?
Its the speed that is the key.
Hi, I had similar probs with Magician and 1gb,2gb, 4gb cards.
Seems that certain devices can't handle SD cards with speeds more than 60X. Most high end cards are 150X.
Finally I got this Kingmax 4gb SD40X card from Dabs.com under £50 and it works in my Magician ,Universal and Himalaya. Hope this helps
PS; If you can try your card in another device at least you can check if the card is faulty.I had one faulty card .I also had a faulty device which had backlight probs and had to go back under warranty for repair !!!!
http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?quicklinx=447h
Official answer from Qtek
After i had problems with TomTom:
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Had the same error {map not found} thought it was TomTom error so i bought Destinator (excellent software) but the problem was identical.
So bought a new storage card Contacted Qtek about it:
"Thank you for your E-mail. Regarding your query, please note that the SD card standard is limited to 2 GB and our devices are fully compliant to the standard. Cards with the capacity greater than 2 GB are not compliant to the standard and we cannot guarantee that they will function correctly. As to transferring speed, we recommend not using ultra speed SD cards with the speed more than 64x as they either will not work or may pose problems later. Also we would like to inform you that some SD cards need to be formatted using any PC / Laptop (supporting SD cards) before using with our devices.".
So put in a 45x speed 2GB SD card and still the same problems.
Contacted Microsoft and they gave me a hint:
http://support.microsoft.com/support.../Q277/7/42.ASP
Finaly all works perfect now running Destinator 6 & Navigon 5.2.6
SO ALLWAYS CREATE FOLLOWING FOLDER ON STORAGE CARD
Storage Card\My Documents
You do not have to have any files in this folder (mine is empty)
Tuurtje
please let me know if this solved your problem
tried a 4gb transcend 150x speed SD on it and no problem encountered at all.
skodadave said:
is there a maximum size for sd cards in xda's... im having problems with my 4gb sd... is this a common problem?
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How about XDA II? I heard it is only support 512Mb
Can anyone tried SD card bigger than 512Mb?
i think it depends on the OS
Hi guys
don't quote me on this but i think the supported size by enlarge depends on the version of ppc/wm you are running...form what i read people with wm5 on their himalayas were happily running 4 gig cards (i think someone may have evn been using an 8gig) but 2003 i think only really likes up to 2 gig.
if someone can confirm this it would be appreciated as i'm looking to get a new card for mine...i'm stuck down in 2k3 so i have full backpack functionality but i'm hoping i can get a 4gig working in there
if anyone is using the 2k3 and has a 4gig working all fine and dandy please let me know which rom ver you are using and which card you are using so i at least have some idea what is possible.
Tim
TomTom Navigator v6.01
rvs97 said:
How about XDA II? I heard it is only support 512Mb
Can anyone tried SD card bigger than 512Mb?
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Hi, Flakey software from TomTom. I have XDA IIs with 1GB and 4GB SD cards. TomTom v6, Western Europe maps, two voices, GB postcodes and satellite images sneaks into 1GB card.
TomTom wouldn't install to 4GB card, using 1GB SD card and TomTom Home software product I performed a backup. Then restored backup to 4GB card. Yes TomTom and maps work with the 4GB SD card.
However, when attempting TomTom Home back up from 4GB card software message says "No data to backup". Thats what I call flakey software and where are software updates for v6.01?
Using a 4GB SD Card in an XDA IIs
rvs97 said:
How about XDA II? I heard it is only support 512Mb
Can anyone tried SD card bigger than 512Mb?
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TomTom Navigator 6 - TomTom - Home software product doesn't like the 4GB SD memory card very much. Then again TomTom navigator 6 doesn't like the 2GB SD micro memory card either oh what fun
2GB cards DO WORK with Xda IIs and XDA II mini
The issue posted on the Microsoft Site isn't really related to the size of the SD card inserted - here's the updated URL by the way: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/277742
I've found that my XDAIIs does support a 2GB card - the main problem that I had was formatting it. The trick is that the card has to be formatted as 2GB (or max capacity) BEFORE inserted into the device, otherwise problems will occur. When I formtted the 2GB SD card in my device, it indicated that the card was a 2GB card, but 1GB of the sectors on the SD card were marked as bad (just run a DOS chkdsk command on the card following such an operation on the PC). To format the card properly, you'll need a SD card reader/writer that copes with cards > 1GB. I've also got a SD card reader in my Fujitsu latop (built in), but it only supports up to 1GB. Most of the latest USB multi-format card readers should work with the large capacity. So, to get it to work:
1) Ensure that you have a SD card reader on the PC that supports >1GB capacity
2) Format the card on the PC in the reader/writer
3) Validate that the format was successful by running the DOS chkdsk command on the SD Card - ensure there are no bad sectors
4) Then insert the SD Card in your PPC
I know for a FACT that a 2GB card works in both an XDA IIs card, and an Xda II mini device, as I've had both working.
rvs97 said:
How about XDA II? I heard it is only support 512Mb
Can anyone tried SD card bigger than 512Mb?
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4gb working fine on my xdaII w/ wm5 ROM buzzlightyear virgy 3.33a
if 4 gb can be used.i wanna grab it by tomorrow.currently i'm using 2gb.Thks bro.. U the Man !!
4gb RiData card in O2 Xda IIs
I can confirm that a RiData 150x 4gb card is working correctly in my O2 Xda IIs, but unfortunately, I can not get an Adata 8GB card to work.
Does anybody know the difference between SD and SDHC cards?
My 4GB card is an SD (and that works); but my 8GB card is an SDHC, and that does not..................
hi to all
i test 4GB 150 x transcend SD card on
1 Himalaya 2003 se
2 Himalaya 2005 2.01a.64wwe
3 BlueAngel 2003 se
4 universal o2 exec
and work good on these devices
and sdhc mean SECURE DATA HIGH CAPACITY
ATANTION:SDHC dont work on thes divicees
becuese the sdhc have new technology for store data and most another product such as camera and ...
dont suport it
cryptonomicon said:
I can confirm that a RiData 150x 4gb card is working correctly in my O2 Xda IIs, but unfortunately, I can not get an Adata 8GB card to work.
Does anybody know the difference between SD and SDHC cards?
My 4GB card is an SD (and that works); but my 8GB card is an SDHC, and that does not..................
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you can not compare 4G and 8G,they are completely different
Tuurtje said:
After i had problems with TomTom:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Had the same error {map not found} thought it was TomTom error so i bought Destinator (excellent software) but the problem was identical.
So bought a new storage card Contacted Qtek about it:
"Thank you for your E-mail. Regarding your query, please note that the SD card standard is limited to 2 GB and our devices are fully compliant to the standard. Cards with the capacity greater than 2 GB are not compliant to the standard and we cannot guarantee that they will function correctly. As to transferring speed, we recommend not using ultra speed SD cards with the speed more than 64x as they either will not work or may pose problems later. Also we would like to inform you that some SD cards need to be formatted using any PC / Laptop (supporting SD cards) before using with our devices.".
So put in a 45x speed 2GB SD card and still the same problems.
Contacted Microsoft and they gave me a hint:
http://support.microsoft.com/support.../Q277/7/42.ASP
Finaly all works perfect now running Destinator 6 & Navigon 5.2.6
SO ALLWAYS CREATE FOLLOWING FOLDER ON STORAGE CARD
Storage Card\My Documents
You do not have to have any files in this folder (mine is empty)
Tuurtje
please let me know if this solved your problem
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Thank you, and yes, your solution worked for me
im using the XDA II WM 5 and have a problem with the Sandisk 4gb sd card.. it can be read from device, but it cannot be used. it cannot open the MP3 song that i have copy to it via PC. Can somebody help me please?? thanx...
have drivers SDHC for Himalaya ?!
Storage Card Problems & Windows Media Player
erdond said:
im using the XDA II WM 5 and have a problem with the Sandisk 4gb sd card.. it can be read from device, but it cannot be used. it cannot open the MP3 song that i have copy to it via PC. Can somebody help me please?? thanx...
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To the forum,
Lately I've been having an intermittent problem where Windows Media Player Mobile doesn't "see" the storage card anymore [where the songs are stored]. All other apps on the card run fine. Pocket Mechanic Pro v2.50.199 shows no problem with card. A friend stuck in his storage card & media Player "saw" the card??? I reformatted the SD card using Pocket Mechanic Pro and checked that Media Player could see the card. I have a /My Documents folder on Sd card.
Three weeks later, the same problem is occuring, Media Player can't see the storage card. If I remove the SD Card and reinsert it, a media player dialog box comes saying a SD card was inserted, do you want to search the card for music and video. I say yes and it finds the 45 songs but hangs in trying to build a library of them. It finally returns with no songs and unable to see the SD card.
The SD Card is a 1GB SanDisk micro SD card about 8 months old.
Any thoughts out there?
Storage Card Recommended FAT & Cluster Size
cshields1 said:
To the forum,
Lately I've been having an intermittent problem where Windows Media Player Mobile doesn't "see" the storage card anymore [where the songs are stored]. All other apps on the card run fine. Pocket Mechanic Pro v2.50.199 shows no problem with card. A friend stuck in his storage card & media Player "saw" the card??? I reformatted the SD card using Pocket Mechanic Pro and checked that Media Player could see the card. I have a /My Documents folder on Sd card.
Three weeks later, the same problem is occuring, Media Player can't see the storage card. If I remove the SD Card and reinsert it, a media player dialog box comes saying a SD card was inserted, do you want to search the card for music and video. I say yes and it finds the 45 songs but hangs in trying to build a library of them. It finally returns with no songs and unable to see the SD card.
The SD Card is a 1GB SanDisk micro SD card about 8 months old.
Any thoughts out there?
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Another question for the group: Pocket Mechnic Pro (PMP) has the ability to set the FAT and Cluster size when formatting the storage card. Could it be I have the wrong FAT-cluster combination? PMP supports formating a fat of FAT12, FAT16 & FAT32 and cluster sizes from 1 sector, 512B up to 128 sectors, 64K.
Any recommendation on FAT/Cluster combination to use for my SanDisk 1GB micro SD Card?
Thanks Craig
hi all
i haven't use my xda2 for long time, and recent wm6 bring my interest back on.
The stoneage sd card i'm using is 256m, and all in suddent i found a tool which says support the SDHC with XDAII. and can someone have SDHC plz try this tool on the device. The tool is harmless I swear, and only designed for the SDHC, NORMAL SD CARD WILL DISPPEAR from the device after installation as I tried on my 256 card, after uninstallation and it works again.
Please post reply if it works(with your device) and i'm gonna grab a SDHC for my XDAII. Thank you very much in advance!
Please always run virus check after download for your own safety.
Hello.
I have an o2 atom life and an 8gb microsdhc.
It couldn't read the card, so I searched and got a sdhc.cab
After using that, the phone is able to read the card, but reads only 4gb.
What can I do to use all the memory?
Regards.
tags: microsd hc micro sdhc 8g 6gb 4gb 6g 4g mwg memory
(for future noobs)
Please... any one?
use sdhc driver ,and miniSD sdhc card or microSD sdhc (t-flash) with adapter. U must use wm6.0 or 6.1 rom as wm5.0 has 4gb storage limit
rgds
can you send us feedback if it worked? thanks
I recently owned a HTC Desire with a 16GB MicroSD installed. After I bought my Galaxy S3 I didn't had another 16GB MicroSD card so I decided to keep it as a backup and use a 8GB MicroSD. After few weeks of usage I decided to put the 16GB card to use. I shut down my S3, popped out the 8GB card, copied it's contents to my WindowsPC, formatted the 16GB card to fat32 and copied the contents over. Started my S3 and now several tools (Android Assistent, Quick System Info) indicates that this is a 11,25 GB card with 3,3 GB left ! I shut down the S3, put the MicroSD card in my PC and it tells my is't a 14,3 GB card with 10,2 GB left. Am I missing something or did I do something wrong ?
Edit: doh, just found out that both tools are reporting the internal memory as SD-card, when I use the generic option (settings > storage) it shows the real SD card capacity..
Thread can be closed !