Dear Guys, i thought I might want to share these with all of you, just incase you are deciding to do something stupid...
In the place I worked, I help my company convert devices into chinese platforms so to serve our chinese customers better... and of course other languages as well..
What happen was that, I was doing upgrades till the versions of 1.60WWE on O2 xda ii, turning them into 1.52CHT which I downloaded from O2 myxda.com
Now, got an order yesterday, and so i provide this services for my customer again, upgrading the O2 to chinese.
Being so damn comfident, I double click on the CHT upgrade program, and then walk off for dinner. Guess what happen! I have a dead deviced, and the CHT program just shuts off before I could read the ERROR message.
Back to the company, try the INDIANA JONES trick(a name I thou of which descrides a technique, that one of the guys in these forums shared on how to recover from 1.72 T-Mobile to lower versions by using two devices)
And no it did not worked, then at this point I come to realize that the version numbers on this new XDA II are 1.66WWE.
I think what happen is that, the most i could get to was att he stage of erasing the ROMs and it keeps getting stuck at 0%.
As I am typing this message, I am trying to upgrade this dead O2 into a T-Mobile 1.72WWE. and then re-use the indie trick.
Cheers
hey all, my XDA II O2 is dead, i have a bit of a story to tell about it too. the poor thing won't boot up past the O2 spash screen.
i was initially selling my O2 around the traps as a working unit, then someone asked me to show them landscape view, and i didn't know how. i soon found out i needed to upgrade to 2003se or 2005. so on my homage to flashing my O2's ROM. i went and tried a 2005 and some random version radio stack hoping to upgrade two things at once, then, only one worked. my OS flash was fine, but my radio ROM didn't work at all. so basically i could get into WM2003, 2003SE, 2005 fine but couldnt use my simcard.
i've tried countless times to manually fix it aswell as using the official O2 ROM update off their site. then i went and sent it to O2 customer service or whatever it's called this year Razz. they charged me $45AUD for general service fee which included flashing the radio and OS roms up to the latest. then they ring me up one morning saying my poor O2 needs a new motherboard (somewhere between $350 - 450 i think). i asked why, they said because it wouldn't power on at all. so i tried turning it on, it didnt work all of a sudden, so to speak.
i still had to pay the $45aud and ended up without a working O2, at all.
i felt furious but helpless and tried not to have to pay the fee, but had to.
long story short, heh, i need to do something with my shell of a XDA II, either sell, sell parts, fix, find a special ROM flash that might fix it. i don't know, i've tried so hard and have gotten nowhere. so, guys, any insight in what i could/should do?? any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks! Shocked
OH OH OH also, on that note, i can't go into bootloader mode or any other mode at all, so i cant re-flash
"NO RADIO" or "NO GSM" GSM/3G module failure T-Mobile Ameo original ROM for warranty?
****** A note for those who may be in a similar situation or pondering over something similar ****
How it ended is that HTC refused to honour the warranty for the reason of "nonstandard software installed / user inflicted damage". To be perfectly honest the law is on their side on this one unfortunately.
I was charged for the repair, waiting for the unit now. :/
Conclusion - as was easy to predict is that HTC will try to use the argument of different branding to refuse warranty, so if you're using HTC branded ROM on T-Mobile branded unit - the warranty goes.
Nothing new here, just for others to have a track.
Also, for those experiencing following problems:
- No GSM, No 3G, but at the same time WiFi and GPS working
- At the boot "NO GSM", "NO RADIO" or "R NONE" displayed instead of the radio stack version, the message depends on the radio stack version
... your motherboard is 99% damaged.
It's not repairable apparently (relax, the unit is). I was charged for "M/B repair", but when the unit came back the motherboard was obviously replaced - new IMEI, physical marks gone. Compared to the price of the whole unit the repair is not that much, so don't despair, send it to them. They're very fast.
The fault is apparently rather rare, but not unknown. May be caused by misuse like leaving the power source plugged in when removing the battery or simply a manufacturing fault. If you have standard software, you will have the repair under the warranty.
Mine just died in the middle of the call for no apparent reason and as I had Olipro's SPL and other non-standard ROM on it I was charged for the repair.
The unit is back, like new, I'm happy again and hope it won't happen to any of you.
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Hi all.
First of all, thx for all the effort that you've put into making Athena/Ameo work with WM6 and all those tools.
Now, I need an original T-Mobile UK Ameo ROM. I have searched hi and low on FTP, wiki, but I cannot find an original T-Mobile UK ROM, only HTC (different branding, etc)
The situation is such - my Ameo was bought second hand from E-bay. It already had a WM6 put on it by a very nice and helpful seller.
After some time of using it, the phone module got fried somehow. After the soft reset due to a hang in a phone call the device doesn't see the phone anymore.
GPS works, WIFI works but no phone, when booting it shows "R NONE" like there's no radio.
I've tried re-flashing with two different radio ROM's, then a full WM6 re-flash, all to no avail.
I have a feeling it's a fried SIM reader, before going completely it complained once about "incorrect SIM" or something similar. The SIM is ok of course, I've checked it in other mobiles and also other sims in the Ameo with the same result.
I've seen similar posts on the net, but to claim warranty I will have to revert back to WM5 or of course they will try to claim that the phone module got fried by WM6, wich is balls (excuse my Latin).
So... after this lengthy introduction - does ANYONE have a backup copy of T-Mobile UK original ROM?
PLEASE?
Jack
Check here:
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Athena/Shipped_Complete_Updates
jpiskorski said:
Hi all.
First of all, thx for all the effort that you've put into making Athena/Ameo work with WM6 and all those tools.
Now, I need an original T-Mobile UK Ameo ROM. I have searched hi and low on FTP, wiki, but I cannot find a definite answer.
The situation is such - my Ameo was bought second hand from E-bay. It already had a WM6 put on it by a very nice and helpful seller.
After some time of using it, the phone module got fried somehow. After the soft reset due to a hang in a phone call the device doesn't see the phone anymore.
GPS works, WIFI works but no phone, when booting it shows "R NONE" like there's no radio.
I've tried re-flashing with two different radio ROM's, then a full WM6 re-flash, all to no avail.
I have a feeling it's a fried SIM reader, before going completely it complained once about "incorrect SIM" or something similar. The SIM is ok of course, I've checked it in other mobiles and also other sims in the Ameo with the same result.
I've seen similar posts on the net, but to claim warranty I will have to revert back to WM5 or of course they will try to claim that the phone module got fried by WM6, wich is balls (excuse my Latin).
So... after this lengthy introduction - does ANYONE have a backup copy of T-Mobile UK original ROM?
PLEASE?
Jack
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And you're sure it's a hardware problem and not a band issue with the phone? I know when I first got my phone I had to change the band to make it work with T-Mobile.
ltxda said:
And you're sure it's a hardware problem and not a band issue with the phone? I know when I first got my phone I had to change the band to make it work with T-Mobile.
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Yes, 100%.
1. It did work for 3 days with some heavy usage (phone calls, 3G for browsing for 3 hours straight for a test, GPS driving across country roads for 4 hours, boy that was fun).
2. Before it stopped working it complained about a problem with SIM. SIM is ok, other SIMs don't work either.
3. After a soft reset and all following hard resets, radio rom updates, full re-flashing still at the black screen there is that "R NONE" message. Google'ing around I've found three similar reports about Athena/U1000 and all three end up with "had to take the handset to the warranty repair, got a new one back"...
4. And finally - I left it switched off for the night with 50% battery still there at 1am. At 7:30am when switched on it had 10%. There seems to be some power drain, that makes me think something is hardware-fried.
I am really cautious about approaching T-Mobile warranty with WM6 and Olipro 1.20 SPL onboard, I can almost hear the answer and I don't like it.
Thx.
Jack
wgary said:
Check here:
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Athena/Shipped_Complete_Updates
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Hi, thx for your answer, I've looked there, but there's no T-Mobile UK ROM there, only HTC.
Does anyone have an original backup ROM for T-Mobile UK?
Also - how can I make sure the Hard-SPL by Olipro is gone and all is left is Ameo as it left the factory? Is there something I have to be aware of (to take it off)?
If those questions are stupid I appologise, but I don't have much experience with Athena, I only had it for 4 days. :/
So far I was always working with ipaq's and Imate Jam. Never had to deal with warranty on those.
Thx once again.
Jack
i can send you an NBH file with the T-mobile splash screens, i think you can find the extended rom in the forum.. i don't know what is the Radio rom version is, nor the OS that came with mine .. i've a problem with the GPS as well and i did buy my unit from ebay
whammer said:
i can send you an NBH file with the T-mobile splash screens, i think you can find the extended rom in the forum.. i don't know what is the Radio rom version is, nor the OS that came with mine .. i've a problem with the GPS as well and i did buy my unit from ebay
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Hey, that would be great. Can you upload them here? Or simply mail to [email protected]
Do you still have original WM5 on your device too by any chance?
What problems do you have with your GPS? Maybe I can help?
If your unit is bought on E-bay, you still should have the manufacturers warranty, check that on http://service.htceurope.com/Wizard.aspx
At that link you can quickly check if your unit is still covered, it should be, Ameos are not long enough on the market to expire their warranty.
Thx in advance
Jack
Thanks man for the info, here is the NBH file i've crearted using the HTC tool (attached), Note that your device should be SUPERCID to be able to flash the rom with this image.
My gps isn't working under wm6, tried wm5 but still didn't work, it stops when i try to flash the SIRFBootloader.nb (GPS) with an error code 00018003, i only get that error when i use the miniSD for flashing, as the normal activesync flashing doesn't show the errors as well as the miniSD one. i've tried every single rom in the forum, all fails .. asked for help but non had that problem, some don't know that some roms don't include that SIRFbootloader.nbh and only have the OS,splashes are the radio.
whammer said:
Thanks man for the info, here is the NBH file i've crearted using the HTC tool (attached), Note that your device should be SUPERCID to be able to flash the rom with this image.
My gps isn't working under wm6, tried wm5 but still didn't work, it stops when i try to flash the SIRFBootloader.nb (GPS) with an error code 00018003, i only get that error when i use the miniSD for flashing, as the normal activesync flashing doesn't show the errors as well as the miniSD one. i've tried every single rom in the forum, all fails .. asked for help but non had that problem, some don't know that some roms don't include that SIRFbootloader.nbh and only have the OS,splashes are the radio.
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Cheerz mate, I will try to combine this branding with HTC WM5 and see how it looks... still I'm hoping somebody will come up with full original image.
Somehow I can't believe nobody backed it up before doing upgrades. In the olden days when I was playing with Linux on iPaq's, how else could we come back? (Ohhh... the warm fuzzy feeling of a text console on the black screen on my iPaq... and nothing more. That was year 2000. )
Sounds like some real trouble you're having there with GPS... I'm afraid it's completely out of my league, maybe somebody else will have some advise.
Jack
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Hi,
having bricked one Ameo trying to unlock it I have a replacement from T-Mobile UK. I am a noobie so I have no idea how to make an image of what you need, but if you post instructions and there is no danger of another bricked unit I'd be happy to upload it for you
Hard-SPL is permanent
Just thought I'd let you guys know that Olipro's Hard-SPL and signature on the bootloader-screen is permanent. Sorry, but that is what made it unbrickable too.
I don't think it is permanent, I no longer have his spl appearing on the boot screen. I presume it was during the last rom flash, (but I've been to sleep since then so may have forgotten what I did), but it now shows as 2.20. before it was the olipro one..
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Just thought I'd let you guys know that Olipro's Hard-SPL and signature on the bootloader-screen is permanent. Sorry, but that is what made it unbrickable too.
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Oh sweet... :/
Thx for clearing this up.
Did anyone have experience trying to claim warranty from HTC on the T-Mobile unit with WM6 on it? After all it's HTC's own soft, but the legal standing is that voids the warranty, so they can use it to refuse repair.
Damn it, it seems the GSM module is not repairable, all reports say about replacing the whole unit. :/
I saw some reports here about T-Mobile UK releasing WM6 official upgrade in September, I think I'll just wait until then, the soft will be official even if the SPL won't.
Will keep you all posted here about the development of all that in case some other poor sod finds himself in a similar pickle.
Damn. :/
Jack
ArnieSack said:
Hi,
having bricked one Ameo trying to unlock it I have a replacement from T-Mobile UK. I am a noobie so I have no idea how to make an image of what you need, but if you post instructions and there is no danger of another bricked unit I'd be happy to upload it for you
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Thx for your offer, it's really nice to find help when you need it.
Although I think I'm giving up.
I'm at the mercy of HTC Europe service anyway. In that situation I'd rather approach them honest with WM6 and the unit as it is, as it is clearly a hardware fault, if they're sensible I have half a chance there.
I need the unit badly as a GPS now anyway, so I have to wait and there's a chance T-Mob UK will release WM6. Then the situation looks even better again.
But as I cannot apparently remove Olipro's SPL, the unit shows clear signs of tampering. If I were them, I must say I would be much less understanding seeing a modified unit which then somebody tried to conceal and did it badly on top of it leaving the SPL cracked.
Or... if that's hardware problem and there's a power drain there's that outside chance the whole motherboard will go and the ROM version is not a problem anymore I guess.
I find it all a bit crazy though, I hate those legal catch 22 cases. ROM by the manufacturer, but warranty void on a 400 quid unit because of branding (warranty would be ok if I used the HTC WM6 straight on the HTC branded unit instead of Ameo).
Ok, sorry for flooding, it's just that the frustration is killing me. :/
Jack
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I don't think it is permanent, I no longer have his spl appearing on the boot screen. I presume it was during the last rom flash, (but I've been to sleep since then so may have forgotten what I did), but it now shows as 2.20. before it was the olipro one..
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I think you're referring to ROM version.
SPL original would be 1.00 I think and Olipro's I have now is 1.20
Jack
I am ready to purchase an HD2 for use on Rogers in Canada and after some searching for local suppliers with stock, I have narrowed it down to 2 options. However, they are each offering a different ROM version so I thought I would seek some advice.
The first is a Canadian supplier who is offering the T9193 Telstra version with a stock Telstra ROM. The second is a US supplier and they have the same T9193 Telstra unit but claim they have removed the Telstra stock ROM and all the bloatware and replaced it with the "Pure HTC WM 6.5 EURO Version (1.72 Latest Release)".
I should mention that I really do not want to get involved myself in flashing ROMS etc at this point in time. I am interested in buying the device and using it with the least amount of hassles. Also, money is not an issue because I don't mind paying a little more to make sure this device runs well and has no issues.
So what I am trying to sort out is:
a) Is the stock Telstra ROM really that bad with all it's "bloatware" (meaning that it affects performance or just eats up memory, or both)?
b) Assuming the US supplier is reputable and will stand behind their warranty with respect to the re-flashed ROM etc, will the EURO version ROM pose and problems for me using it in Canada?
c) What about possible ROM updates for both, should they become available...any issues I should be considering?
d) Are there any other issues I should be considering when making this decision (commercial aspects notwithstanding)?
Thank you in advance for any assistance with this tough decision.
WOW - November 8th and no response.
I bought the one that was advertised as - The HTC HD2 US: An On The Go Solutions Exclusive
Unlocked GSM, US & International 3G (850/2100Mhz)
The HTC HD2 US is our flagship product. Starting off with an HD2 Telstra , we remove the Telstra ROM, and install the pure HTC HD2 ROM. This enhances your product in several important ways: Removes all Telstra software, data-settings, links and branding
Solves known bugs and problems on the Telstra units
Adds HTC applications and advanced functionality
Adds automatic setup of data/mms settings just by inserting your sim!
Qualifies for future HTC HD2 Windows Mobile updates
No Annoying Programs / Links from Telstra (Bloatware)
Rom: Pure HTC WM 6.5 EURO Version (1.72 Latest Release)
The manila version is 1.0.1921
This answers a - no bloatware - I can attest.
b) Onthegosolutions has been reputable - no problems and I have had the phone for over 3 months.
c) I haven't fiugred out ROM updates perhaps someone else can answer. But I am not really interested in reflashing either - unless there was a significant change. To date I haven't seen any except perhaps adding more quicklinks on the home page - not worth a reflash.
d) I have used several of the cabs from this site and have not found any issues. I even have been able to use several of the programs I used to use on my old Axim x51v (note: I stll miss by d-pad), but now that I have a 32 gig sd card - I am at least a little closer to my beloved device.
Lastly, I am on AT&T and have no issues other than the usual connection issues you get with AT&T ;-( . But I can't beat the price as my wife has an iPhone and combined we are paying $100 a month for both of us with full internt usage. I hope this helps.
Thank you for your feedback trotterjerry. Since posting this query I have done a fair amount of "soul searching" and I am now at the point that I am not sure what I am going to do. After waiting so long for Windows Phone 7 details to become confirmed, I was so disappointed that without MS Exchange Server, there is no way to "cable-sync" with Office on my PC. This is the main issue that pushed me towards the HD2.
I have been limping along on my Touch Pro 2 for business use and iPhone for personal use, however, the "touch experience" on the TP2 (and internet for that matter) leave a lot to be desired. Actually, it is kind of ironic that, if you take Windows Mobile 6.x and previous out of the mix, one of the most capable devices for syncing with Outlook and Office is the iPhone (through MobileMe).
So, looking at it from this perspective now, I am considering WP7 with a hosted Exchange account because it shouldn't be that much different from a cost perspective than using MobileMe.
I will know better in a couple of weeks as I just bought my son a Samsung Focus for Christmas to replace his iPhone (his request). Little does he know that he is going to have to share his new toy with his dad while he is home from University on Christmas break!