I recently bought a stereo headset, Plantronics 590A, and I wonder what the rest of you think of the sound quality in your headsets.
I sometimes experience a low hiss while playing music with a lot of high pitches, like a lot of cymbals, crashes and high hats etc ( = Metal! )
Music with mostly base sounds just fine.
I solved this to some degree by adjusting the high pitches in the equalizer.
What quality sound do you have using A2DP?
I experience the hissing using both WMP and Pocket Player 2.72. Is there some player that is better or worse for use with A2DP?
Noticed that the hissing is significantly lower if the volume on the pda is set as low as possible and the volume on the headset is turned up than set the other way around.
Also, shameless bump...
Yea I am trying my friends motorola ht820 and I notice the same thing you said. It is still there even at setting the hardware volume low, any way we can reduce it more? It seems the treble is high
Dmon said:
I recently bought a stereo headset, Plantronics 590A, and I wonder what the rest of you think of the sound quality in your headsets.
I sometimes experience a low hiss while playing music with a lot of high pitches, like a lot of cymbals, crashes and high hats etc ( = Metal! )
Music with mostly base sounds just fine.
I solved this to some degree by adjusting the high pitches in the equalizer.
What quality sound do you have using A2DP?
I experience the hissing using both WMP and Pocket Player 2.72. Is there some player that is better or worse for use with A2DP?
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I use GSPlayer and TCPMP, with itech R35
I don't notice such problem
I know this is common pocket/WM problem with some devices
I'm getting this problem also.
I raised a thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=59333 to try and get my ideas out on the subject but I seem to have gotten to cold shoulder from the forum.
I've been doing a lot of my own testing but I cant decide if its 1)My phone (o2 xDA MiniS / Wizard / QTec 9100), 2)my headset (Motorola HT820) or 3)something to do with the bluetooth bandwidth/quality (Because when I use the external audio jack the sound is perfect).
Does anyone have an idea as to what the problem is?
Thanks all.
Plonka2000.
Experiencing ths same problem with Plantronics Pulsar 590A and S200 with AKU 3.2
I would say it could be due to bleutooth A2DP compression like it sounds like a bad/low bandwidth encoded file...
I'll test with an acer n311 if it is a2dp compatible ?!
could like to test with, for example, a SE K800i to see if it isn't the MS bluetooth stack...
Humm... I'll test with the 590A supplied bt audio adapter too tonight. If the sound's good, then we'll have to wait for some fixe on WM2005 :'(
tested with the Plantronics bt receiver, the sound quality is just vrey good.
So the problem is on the pda side..
Need to test with an other pda...
Yea, I am really disappointed with the sound quality of my Motorola HT820 that I got on ebay. Where did you guys purchase your headsets? I heard there were some fake ones on ebay, I don't know how they can forge it but it is a possibility.
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Greetings
I replaced my SE HBH-DS970 with an iClip R35 because I wanted to use my own earbuds (Shure). Now I find that when I use stereo Bluetooth on my TyTN with the iClip to listen to music, there is a very irritating high pitched noise, almost to say distortion that almost ruins the whole thing.
I don't get any skipping like I did with the SE headset (at least not when using the "high" quality registry setting).
Wondering if this is a TyTN or iClip issue...
/POL
Hi
I had the same problem with my blueant X5 stereo's as well. no skipping but high pitched distortion.
Its not the BT headphones, its the Hermes.
Luckily i returned mine and got my money back as there was no point having them.
Lets hope we can port the Widcomm bluetooth stack to the hermes.....as the M$ stack sucks...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284329
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Greetings
I replaced my SE HBH-DS970 with an iClip R35 because I wanted to use my own earbuds (Shure). Now I find that when I use stereo Bluetooth on my TyTN with the iClip to listen to music, there is a very irritating high pitched noise, almost to say distortion that almost ruins the whole thing.
I don't get any skipping like I did with the SE headset (at least not when using the "high" quality registry setting).
Wondering if this is a TyTN or iClip issue...
/POL
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Get Sleuths A2DP fix and use hermes tweaker and set A2DP to excellent. Works great with HBH-DS970.
Sigh, known problem on this headset unfortunately. There's another thread on this issue here.
Funny but the R35 works great with my prophet/etymotic combo. I use iplay as the media player. I have the bitpool at 51.
I replaced HTC ROM 1.18 with South African ROM 1.35 on my TyTN and noticed that sound quality played through i.Tech R35 worsen. Applying fit4cat Hermes Tweaker didn't help much (just enabled stereo). Is anybody else experiencing the same? Any suggestions how to solve this problem? I've tried to set bitpool to 51, this reduced the high pitch distorion but didn't eliminate it. So, can anybody propose a different solution?
RE: i.Tech Clip R35 stereo BT headset -depends on what headphones you're using
In addition to my previouse posting I want to add my recent obserbation. In my previouse posting I noticed that after I upgraded the ROM of my TyTN the quality of sound detiriorated. At that time I tested sound using regular replaced standard headsets that came along with R35. BUT after I replaced them with Etymotic earbuds the quality substantially improved. And what's more imposrtant I don't hear high pitched distortions anymore. I used bitpool 51. So for those who experience this problem with higр pitch distortion perhaps it's worth trying different headsets.
I saw MSI bluetooth player on the back of my iTech so I did a search and low and behold I found the following:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=262715
Sound quality is excellent although you have to use the player and it is very basic. The volume controls are the only ones supported in this altered version, the latest MSI release does handle pause, next and previous but it is limited to a 30 second play time for non-MSI devices. Look through the thread and you may spy a solution.
Hi everyone
I need help choosing between 2 bluetooth stereo headphones:
1) Sony Ericson HBH-DS970
-$60 CAD used from someone local (he claims it is not a fake)
2) Jabra BT8010
-about $110-140 CAD on eBay
I am having a hard time deciding between the two.
Are they both equally compatible with the Hermes? Which one has better sound quality when playing music?
Please help me decide or a different BT headphone that you think is better.
Thanks
I just tried out the SE DS970 and I was not impressed with the audio quality. there was no skipping because I used Sleuth's patch and I tried all the BT quality settings using the HTCtweak but the audio quality was poor compared to the OEM USB headphones. I am certain it was not a fake. Is that normal sound quality on the Hermes?
I hope someone can comment on this.
There are two threads with extensive discussion on the SE HBH-DS970 and also some on the Jabra 8010
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299082
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=291926
Try these.
I personally use the SonyEricsson and am very happy with the quality. The bass is particularly good.
I have not tried the Sony, but looking at the comments and the ergonomy of the headphone, it may provide better bass than the BT8010.
The BT8010 sound is well balanced with good bass, but the reason I am using it is that it is flexible. it can convert from a headset to a headphone very easily.
When used as a headset, you can get A2DP sound in your ear including phone ring, Voice command and system sounds.
It has also a vibrate function so you can put it in your pocket and still get those phone calls.
No compatibility issue whatsoever with Hermes.
For best sound on the go I am using the superwifi5 with BT320s or simple cable adaptor cable as Sling Video has some trouble to keep up with WiFi and BT A2DP at the same time
I bought the Logitech FreePulse BT headphones about a year ago and have been in love with them ever since. The fit and design aren't that great, and it doesn't have buttons for changing the songs. However, all of this is made up for by the amazing sound quality.
I have been using them religiously ever since...with my laptop, desktop (with the provided receiver) and Touch Cruise.
I decided it was time to upgrade, and get something that had what these dont; buttons for changing the songs, a mic, and the ability to switch between calls and music; all with good sound quality.
A friend recommended the Motorola s9's. I tried them, and absolutely hated them. I loved the features that they had, and I loved how lightweight they were...but the sound quality was so bad -- it was tinny, no bass at all, crackly, and hollow...like something I would expect from a pair of headphones that come free with another product.
I returned those, and then purchased the Motorola HT820's on ebay. These were a bit heavier, but I liked the fit better. These also had the buttons for switching between songs, and had a mic for calls too. However, they suffered from the same issue as the s9 - absolute crap sound quality.
I have been checking out alot of different reviews for other products, and am stuck. People never seem to agree about anything, and the reviews are always mixed.
So, I'll ask you guys here at XDA..
What do you think the best quality BT headphones are, that also have a mic, and remote control buttons?
Are there any studio quality monitors like ultimate ears that use bluetooth a2dp / handsfree?
Thanks in advance for your posts...I hope I can find something decent
Has anyone experience with the motorola s705 soundpilot in combination with the touch cruise?
Jabra bt320s: imho this is the best; buyed from ebay.co.uk 1 month ago and no problems at all:
http://www.jabra.com/Sites/Jabra/UK-UK/products/Pages/JabraBT320s.aspx
bye.
Plantronics
I have plantronics 665 & with BTArouter its great but no a2dp,
Check the plantronics 855 it should be the best BT headset exist.
i bought a Sony Ericsson HBH-DS980 and its just perfect,
Basses are deep, and sound quality is just like my PC Speakers(logitech 5500 digital...)
Really cool !
g0r3t3x said:
i bought a Sony Ericsson HBH-DS980 and its just perfect,
Basses are deep, and sound quality is just like my PC Speakers(logitech 5500 digital...)
Really cool !
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Me too!
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I bought the Logitech FreePulse BT headphones about a year ago and have been in love with them ever since.
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Ha, I thought I was the only one. The Logitech simply are amazing in terms of sound quality, bar none. I just wish they had the AVCRP and handsfree profiles and I could deal with the fit issues and the fact that its kinda bulky. Honestly, I can't say anything is better and I've tried many. Unless Sony has vamped up its game in the last 6 months, they don't compete at all...although maybe the SonyEriccson line is better (althought I got into A2DP to avoid tangled wires, so earbud form factors are not an option for me). I have high hopes for the Jabra BT8030 though and may pick them up one day as an addition to my current A2DP headphones. The BT8030 certainly looks like it has awesome sound.
I personally use Samsung SBH-170 mainly bc of their convenience and small size. The sound was better than everything else I had tried, but nowhere near the FreePulse. FYI the FreePulse is the only headset that you could turn the Bluetooth A2DP thoroughput/bandwith all the way up on the PC w/o any stuttering.
Thanks sonus, those samsungs look really nice
However, I have given up and am stuck with the freepulse for now..
All the ones i've tried from best buy \ circuit city suck compared to those, sound quality wise. I do agree that the fit is not the best, and others are way better, but since I'm a musician \ producer my main concern\priority in the end will always be sound quality.
I would try to order some online; but alot of places don't like people returning things and then they take a month to refund your card, etc. :-\
I saw some real good ones on ebay a couple weeks ago, but I forgot what they were called. They were labled as professional audio quality, so I'm gonna check into those for now I guess.
I still have a2dp issues with the freepulse + polaris tho..like lag, skips, weak signal, etc. Do you have the same problem sonus?
No, I don't have any serios A2DP problems, although maybe once every 15min I might get a skip. Have you tried editing the A2DP settings in the registry?
HKLM/SOFTWARE/Microsoft/Bluetooth/AD2P/Settings/BitPool
Reduce this value to lower the standard bitpool that is used the majority of the time
30-40: Medium audio quality
48: High audio quality
58: Excellent audio quality
HKLM/SOFTWARE/Microsoft/Bluetooth/AD2P/Settings/MaxSupportedBitPool (Default=64)
Reduce this value to lower the maximum bitpool that is used when your MP3 player encounters high bitrate songs. I'm guessing that since you are a musician and since you probably have high quality mp3s, this value might be your issue. Try lowering this before reducing the bitpool setting.
HKLM/SOFTWARE/Microsoft/Bluetooth/AD2P/Settings/UseJointStereo
0=Real Stereo
1=Joint Stereo
Turn your bluetooth off then on to make the changes take effect. Lower values will also give you better battery life, and reduce processor usage while a2dp is being used.
Thanks very much for the info..i changed both values to 50 and turned on true stereo (I can't believe joint stereo was enabled by default -- YUCK!) It seems to have helped..
I just listened to four songs in a row using core player and I only got 3 skips..believe it or not that is a big improvement
But the problem when coreplayer is playing and i press the power button it still skips for 2-3 seconds every time.
It's better, but I still am kind of suspicious because my laptop and desktop have 0 skips at all, no problems whatsoever...but i guess mobile devices are different sooo..yuh..I'm somewhat content now at least =]
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But the problem when coreplayer is playing and i press the power button it still skips for 2-3 seconds every time.
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It might be that HTC underclocks our devices when the power button has been pushed. So try a lower bitrate, experiment with a value like 45 or even 40 to see if the music quality is audibly degraded, you should get no skipping at that point.
yeah, it definately has something to do with the bluetooth settings too because when i have the audio adapter connected (Wired) to my car's aux i can push the power button all day long and no skips, and really no skips when playing songs at all in core player...maybe when a notification comes up but thats to be expected i guess
I bought this BT headset, works perfect with the TC and not expensive:
http://cgi.ebay.nl/a15-3-5mm-Stereo...ryZ80085QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Now im using a motorola H3. It's really cool. Now i'm looking for a stereo one. Could you please tell me which type should i buy? BT 1.1,1.2,2.0?
V Three BTH-18
I bought the V Three BTH-18 Bluetooth Headset from expansys and I have to say that it's working very well. No problem pairing, answering or making calls with voice speed dial. Also it's very small!! (Mind you, I've not tested it with programs like coreplayer, etc, for music or movies...! I suppose I'm not interested in that feature)
And there's another one:
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs...10151&productId=8198552921665400453&langId=-1
I don't know if anybody tried it. I have a choice now of getting Sony Ericsson DS980 or this new Sony bluetooth. Looking for a feedback about this device, but can't find it. Maybe someone can share his experience with this toy? Thanks!
I think these are the best I've ever heard
the Sony DR-BT22 they fit perfect on the ears sound quality is awsome ....I know that I have a Kaiser but stereo headsets work with all devices.
Peace
mike
I bought I-tech Clip D Radio! Work awesomely!!!
BT2.0 if possible as that should theoretically support higher bitrates. The vast majority of stereo headphones are BT 1.2 however. For the most part newer 1.2 headphones will work just fine.
I have a Nokia BH-503. I think it's great (good sound, easy to use controls for music and calls, and very comfortable).
Only problem is that after I turn it off, when I turn it on, even though it reconnects in phone mode automatically, I have to manually reconnect for music. I think this is a problem with other headsets as well though.
Hello,
who has made good experience with a 6.x ROM (or any BT patch) and a bluetooth stereo headset. I am still looking for the best combination of ROM, bt headset und software to listen to music in good quality. All I have heard so far has a terrible metallic sound or some high frequency hissing.
Best regards,
Michael
Eh, really nobody?
I don't use BT or BT headsets so I can't help there, but for general sound quality boosting, SRS WOW HD (a quick search will find it) is great...
As for player, WMP does things well, relatively stably and with relatively good sound, but there are other, better, alternatives.
EDIT: SRS WOW is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=355725
I used a BT headset for 3 months with WM5 and WM6. The soundqualli was ok, but the driver hangs up the system (decoding needs a lot of load). So the PPC was very slowly.
Question,
Using bluetooth to play audio from Pandora sounds terrible. Lots of static, studdering, skipping, cut outs.
If i use a stereo cable it sounds great, so that rules out software.
My atrix sounded gorgeous over blue tooth, so that rules out the equipment.
Anyone else have any sound quality issues with the bluetooth?
No issue so far, use for about 4 hours a day for conference calls and then pandora/slacker or doubletwist for 2-3 hours more. Using Samsung sbh600 bluetooth.
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I use A2DP stereo streaming to two different devices (car and supertooth disco) and it sound excellent! Much better than my old evo and just as good as the nexus S I had for a while.
If you are using wifi for the connection to Pandora, try switching to 3G or 4G. Wifi and bluetooth can interfere with each other as they use the same frequency. I haven't had any issues, but have seen it before with other devices.
azwildfire said:
Question,
Using bluetooth to play audio from Pandora sounds terrible. Lots of static, studdering, skipping, cut outs.
If i use a stereo cable it sounds great, so that rules out software.
My atrix sounded gorgeous over blue tooth, so that rules out the equipment.
Anyone else have any sound quality issues with the bluetooth?
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I noticed the same thing today streaming to my kenwood unit. My droid X had flawless sound, this was exactly as you described. Any fix yet?
One thing I noticed, my X had a check box for an enhanced bluetooth audio quality....not sure if that made a difference or not.
Been using the phone in my car with my alpine deck without issue. I have the add-on bluetooth from alpine and it works really good with the phone. Randomly the music cuts out for a second but my old blackberry did the same thing, and so did my iPod Touch (2nd gen).
Shutting off the wifi on the phone isn't a bad idea... might give that a shot to see if that helps your issue? My blackberry would randomly distort the music. I would close pandora and do a battery pull then it would usually be back to "normal".
I have the same issue with my Clarion deck. Of course...I've somewhat convinced myself the speakers are a bit blown...but it's worse on BT than wired. From what I've been able to read there is a "bitpool" setting which controls the quality, and by default it's pretty low in the 30's, while it can go up to the 50's and the sound quality is noticeably different. CM fixes this from what I've read, but that's all. Apparently Blackberry has a higher setting by default, and each manufacturer can set their's different.
I'm hoping that a combination of new speakers and CM7 will remedy my issue.
interesting I've got a pioneer premier DEH-P710BT
and it sounds amazing
maybe look for a firmware update for your receiver?
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interesting I've got a pioneer premier DEH-P710BT
and it sounds amazing
maybe look for a firmware update for your receiver?
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mine is updated to their most current firmware. I'm more inclined to think it's a bad bluetooth stack like weiln12 mentions above. gonna try it out with my friends thunderbolt tonight and see if it is the same.
I also have a clarion deck and find the bluetooth audio quality to be horrific. I find it hard to believe that it's the head unit at fault since my old Droid1 sounded perfectly fine.
Is anyone aware of any roms or kernels that have a higher bitpool setting?
I haven't found any yet. I'm hoping when we see CM7 things will be better.
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Sounds absolutely perfect on my Ford Sync audio.. I have a Scoche Bluetooth in my other car that I can test.. I haven't tested as it is currently off the road. I will let you know. With my Scoche and past phones I noticed the bluetooth is a little lower quality then the audio jack but not much and only with that unit.
I have a Motorola S305 headset that works very well with music (slacker, amazon mp3, and pandora). However, my bluetooth Samsung WEP570 sounds so bad, crackled, and quiet (even on max volume) that I don't even use it anymore for calls.
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Sounds absolutely perfect on my Ford Sync audio.. I have a Scoche Bluetooth in my other car that I can test.. I haven't tested as it is currently off the road. I will let you know. With my Scoche and past phones I noticed the bluetooth is a little lower quality then the audio jack but not much and only with that unit.
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How is your call quality on the Ford sync? Specifically the incoming call volume.
I'm streaming Pandora to a MOTO roadster, then over fm to stereo, sounds great, no loss on the bass end either.
Have you tried another bt device?
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I personally have tried a few and have problems. However, I've tried multiple thunderbolts and they all sound the same on my kenwood. I've definitely read about HTC using less than stellar bluetooth on their units before, so I am assuming that is the case here. I guess it just works ok with some and not with others. Testing my X on the same kenwood unit I have and it's crystal clear with no distortion.
This has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the bluetooth hardware itself. Bluetooth is a wireless digital transfer protocol, nothing more nothing less. It does nothing to the audio quality during it's transmission. Where we have a problem is in the amount of "space" (the bitpool) provided to send the information from your device to the receiver. The lower the bitpool, the less space is available for your music and the more it must be compressed. Motorola may infact provide a higher bitpool setting in their devices than HTC which would account for them sounding better and I also know that the X has a "Use High Quality Bluetooth Audio" setting, which I'm sure enables a higher bitpool.
The type of music you listen to also has a significant effect on how this sounds. If you listen to something that is sonicly simple (ie hip hop, pop, etc etc) it doesn't need as much "space" to sound good. However, when you switch over to music that has more going on like heavy metal, it needs more room.
I can give you a perfect example. I was listening to Rage Against the Machine today. In the slower parts of the songs, it sounded GREAT, but then when it picked up and the song got more involved there was a huge loss of fidelity and it didn't sound very good at all.
Now, for those of you who are happy with how yours sounds, that's awesome, but for those of us who are not, we simply just want to know of a way to adjust the bitpool setting or find a developer who is willing to code it in to their kernel/rom which I believe is what needs to happen.
kkozma said:
This has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the bluetooth hardware itself. Bluetooth is a wireless digital transfer protocol, nothing more nothing less. It does nothing to the audio quality during it's transmission. Where we have a problem is in the amount of "space" (the bitpool) provided to send the information from your device to the receiver. The lower the bitpool, the less space is available for your music and the more it must be compressed. Motorola may infact provide a higher bitpool setting in their devices than HTC which would account for them sounding better and I also know that the X has a "Use High Quality Bluetooth Audio" setting, which I'm sure enables a higher bitpool.
The type of music you listen to also has a significant effect on how this sounds. If you listen to something that is sonicly simple (ie hip hop, pop, etc etc) it doesn't need as much "space" to sound good. However, when you switch over to music that has more going on like heavy metal, it needs more room.
I can give you a perfect example. I was listening to Rage Against the Machine today. In the slower parts of the songs, it sounded GREAT, but then when it picked up and the song got more involved there was a huge loss of fidelity and it didn't sound very good at all.
Now, for those of you who are happy with how yours sounds, that's awesome, but for those of us who are not, we simply just want to know of a way to adjust the bitpool setting or find a developer who is willing to code it in to their kernel/rom which I believe is what needs to happen.
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Amen. You just summed up the situation perfectly. I forgot the X has the check box for high quality BT audio, that could very well be what makes it better. I'm going to check it out tonight w/o that checked and see how it fares. Not sure why HTC wouldn't have an option like that.
Just found a post here that seems very related. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=708685
Apparently CM uses an open source BT stack that has good settings to use the higher bitpool but HTC chooses the Broadcom stack that utilizes a much lower bitpool as stated above. They don't seem to have a way to raise this value though....
azwildfire said:
Question,
Using bluetooth to play audio from Pandora sounds terrible. Lots of static, studdering, skipping, cut outs.
If i use a stereo cable it sounds great, so that rules out software.
My atrix sounded gorgeous over blue tooth, so that rules out the equipment.
Anyone else have any sound quality issues with the bluetooth?
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i've had no issues. I use Pandora w/ high quality audio over BT into my Ford Sync system.
Sounds great. Somewhere between satellite radio and MP3 player SNR ratio.
Ironically my streaming audio is fine from mp3's i put on the SD, but IN CALL volume is much lower then i am used too, i have a Jabra BT530, its weird because the media volume is fine, but as soon as a call comes in i have to switch to the handset to hear the other end well.
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Ironically my streaming audio is fine from mp3's i put on the SD, but IN CALL volume is much lower then i am used too, i have a Jabra BT530, its weird because the media volume is fine, but as soon as a call comes in i have to switch to the handset to hear the other end well.
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I had that problem but it turned out to just be a volume issue, BT vol was set way higher...
Again, Streaming pandora to Motorola Roaster, which in turn broadcasts FM to my car stereo. It sounds fantastic.