After some advice. I am slowly getting through the suite of products. Was a proud owner of a Wizard, currently using a Tornado, but am very interested in the StarTrek.
Can anyone offer some advice on the difference between the 2 products and what people recommend. I'm tempted to change to go for the smaller flip style set up as my only problem with PDA Phone devices has always been the size.
Any advice much appreciated.
I personally LOVE the Flip phone
Owning both I do believe the Tornado is the better device, but I think the Qtek 8500 aka HTC StrTrk is way more sexy.
My personal pro's and cons:
- 8500 lighter then the Tornado, it's also thinner so easier to take with you.
- 8500 clamshell design protects the display.
- 8500 keyboard is way easier to use with one hand, Tornado's keys are very small and close to each other, to small and close for one hand use (without dropping the phone).
- 8500 is black.
- 8500 is cheaper.
- 8500 supports A2DP profile, but....
- 8500 has lousy sound quality since it play's soundfiles at the lowest sound quality. The 200Mhz CPU can hardly handle the A2DP profile as it is built in the 8500, that's why the factory setting is set to play at the lowest sound quality. One needs to (security-) unlock the phone to alter registry settings and to make the 8500 play at a higher quality. To get these files to play at a higher quality without clipping, you need to overclock the processor with OmapClock to at least 240Mhz.
So... the Tornado is the better MP3 player. There is a world of difference here!! I'm sure A2DP profile will be available for the Tornado in the next ROM update, untill then you can use the Tornado A2DP patch someone made to get your Bluetooth Stereo Profile. It works better then the built in A2DP profile in the 8500...
- Tornado has WiFi.
- Tornado has much better battery life, there's a difference in day's here.
- Tornado has slightly better sound quality during phone calls.
- Tornado has a standard mini-USB connector for connection to your PC.
- Tornado has a standard 2.5mm jack for your headset.
- Tornado uses Mini-SD (2GB capacity soon 4GB capacity) instead of the 8500's Micro-SD (1GB capacity soon 2GB capacity).
So a few points to consider. I must say I use the 8500 more than the Tornado due to it's lesser weight and more sexy looks. But if you intend to listen to music a lot with your phone, go for the Tornado. WiFi is a strong consideration too. If both points are of no importance to you, you might want to keep some money in your pocket and go for the slim and black (or pink if you want) 8500.
Good luck with deciding
roma!
I totaly agree, you could not put it beter.
I also having 3 devices prefer the 8500 since the clamshel design is really, really handy (even if it only for a reason that you do not need to lock the keys after you use the phone aslip it in the pocket, and then unlock them first before use)
And the 8500 is Sooooooooo Sexy....
I also find it more comfortable to talk to since when you talk with it it forms like a cradle around your fase..
Many thanks Guys for your help....really appreciate it.
Really fancy the startrek. Only concerns now will be whether I can cope with the weaker battery (although I could get a spare), and how the startrek would deal with Tomtom mobile - although I'm still having trouble getting that to work with my Tornado (despite calling my external GPS receiver 'GPS').
Anyway, thanks again...PNA
QTEK 8500 works perfect with TOMTOM Mobile 5 by me. I use it on a daily basis. I did have to get the latest version though form t-mobile site I beleive version 5.20
Also I had to application unlock the phone, which is a simple registry tweak. MAKE SURE you do the reg tweak first before you install TomTom since if you do that after you shall need to activate TT5 again since the device ID changes. Very weird, and I had the problem. It took me two weeks to get throught to TT support what exactly happend.
Same here, no problem with TomTom Mobile 5.20. Also application/security unlocked the phone before installing TTM5. Use is every day. Since yesterday have me a Brodit passive holder with a car charger for the 8500 so battery life is good enough for me. Battery life is shorter then the Tornado but hasn't got me in any trouble so far.
yea, I also can say that with normal use it lasts about two days, although I do turn it off at night. I love the smartphone feature to be able to switch the phone off. Because in my MDA Vario and PRO I have to turn the flight mode on in order to be off line.
If I get the choise it would definitely be the startrek. Very very handy and confortable to use. I have not got a tornado, but always had a phone with the keys in front and hated it always. Now the fact that it is a clamshel design it is great.
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Afternoon Folks,
I guess we all want our ideals and dreams fulfilled.. so my aspirations are small really...
My TyTN pleasure would be boundless if I could get some bluetooth headphones/handsfree with an FM radio built in that either had, or I could attach some decent sony earbud ear phones (gotta blank out the incessant crap-chat on the train to work in the mornings ) rather than the pad ones that just fall out every other step..
So I'm thinking my only (currently available) option would be to get a Nokia HS-12W headset and pay a grown up to change the earphones over...
My questions are...
1. Anyone tried a HS-12W with a TyTN?
2. Anyone know of a person/company in the UK who would do the electronics sorcery?
3. Anyone think of a better way to achieve my modest dreams?
Thanks,
Andy
I have some Nokia HS-12W bluetooth headphones and to be honest I am disappointed with the results which I suspect has more to do with the phone than the headset.
I find that if I am more than about a metre away from the phone or the phone's memory is in anyway dealing with any other task, that I get constant skipping. I have come to the conclusion that this is because the phone memory can't keep up with the streaming but that is just a guess.
Also, I have found that the radio reception is a bit poor so quite often I get a lot of static noise, even on the strong stations. Sometimes it's okay though.
It is possible that either my headset or my phone are in some way faulty because I have read other peoples posts regarding the HS-12W and they have had some good results. Perhaps I am just unlucky
I have resorted to going back to using the standard headphones and using streaming radio instead (I am on T-Mobile so doesn't cost silly amounts of money for the data use).
Thanks for your reply Nicky...
I'll have a search myself for feedback on the HS-12W... I tried earlier and couldn't find anything directly tried with a TyTN but I'm crap at searching..
The closest "off the shelf" option seems to be one of itech's old PowBox's... LINK HERE it fulfills everything I want apart from it's not stereo bluetooth... it's mono... but at the moment I'm kinda thinking that may be a better option than trying to find someone to change the earphones on the Nokia, and then it perhaps not work afterwards...
From what others have written here the itech prodcuts in general seem to work ok with the TyTN so maybe an older itech product will work seamlessly! Yeah right!
Yep... my one beef with the HS-12W is the range (2-3 meters or so). I think its fidelity when in range is awsome though and it plays skip free too.
I've never tried the FM radio on it to be honest...
Thanks Sleuth
Do all the buttons on the Nokia work with the TyTN?
I was put off the itech R35 when a few people on here said some of the buttons aren't compatible...
Thanks,
Andy
Just out of interest, does anyone know what the difference is between the Itech S35, S38 and R35.
I was thinking of trying one of these to see if the range/skipping was any better than the HS-12W but also, I have some fontopia headphones which I would quite like to use and this would be quite a good solution for that too.
I have looked on the Itech website but am still struggling to see any comparitive difference.
@sts_missle: From an AVRCP standpoint, all the buttons work just fine with WMP. I can skip tracks, pause and control the volume without issues.
There's no AVRCP support at all for TCPMP/CorePlayer 1.0 yet however. This is a problem with those apps, not the HS-12W though. I believe CorePlayer AVRCP support is in the very near future though since it seems that the Technology Preview had it.
Thanks again Sleuth.
I've just found out the itech PowBox can't stream audio from a device, only from itself, (256mb memory or the radio) and it's a big ol' thing too, so the Nokia it is then..
Now I've just got to find someone who'll swap the earphones over for me...
I am trying to turn my 8125 into a GPS device.
I have everything i need. Except the GPS receiver. Any sugestions? they are not expensive so i want to get the one that goes better with this phone but have no clue wich one, any experience?
CNET says the belkin is really good.
Go with any unit featuring the Sirf III chipset -- it has superior performance with low signal. Go to Semsons or BuyGPSNow for a good selection.
Thanks 3way. I took part of your advice and bought from buygpsnow. but not with sirf III, bought this http://www.buygpsnow.com/i-blue-hig...ceiver-ps-3200-free-arkon-vent-mount-509.html
Read a lot of reviews and everybody loves it. And the most important is that the battery lasts 30hs!
Well, it's about X-Mas time, and I've made a few changes to my phones. Namely, I no longer have my second line, and my Wizard is seeing alot more use. As such, I'd like to get a few accesories for it. The big things I'm looking for:
1. 4GB memory card - bidding on one on EBay, will let you all know if the brand I buy works for the big thread.
2. A2DP wireless headphones. Would really like something to listen to when I run / work out. I saw a plantronics set with a slide-out microphone that looked decent, but I have a big head (size 8 and some change, no joke) so some of the hard-band headphones bug me a little. I was looking for something with just a wire in the back,and was wondering if anyone had any suggestions.
3. A2DP capable USB Bluetooth adapter. I'd like to be able to use my headset with my PC for gaming / listening to tunes when my room mate's sleeping. The smaller, the better.
4. Bluetooth Capable car audio solution, ideally via FM modulator. All my best tunes are on my Wizard, and I'd like to just tune my radio and them use my phone to play songs.
Any advice is appreciated. Also, I'm looking at possibly upgrading to a new HTC Pocket PC around April for a birthday gift. Anyone know of any cool models out there now or otherwise planned?
Thanks.
Hi,
I'm thinking to buy a bluetooth headset, any one can suggest me one? Battery life is my main concern.
Thanks
i use a nokia one, last me a good 2 days
I have tried alot of headsets since they first came out and all i can say is dont buy a cheap one, I have had the cheap, the medium priced and the highend headsets and I can tell you that the only ones i keep are the high end ones. Right now I have the Plantronics Discovery 975 and I love it. Its really light wieght I wear it mostly all day and i sometimes have to touch my ear to make sure its still there, thankfully it always is because it never falls off. It comes with a really convenient case that can charge it fully three times with one charge which means if I charge the case and the headset together to full charge I dont have to charge either for about four or five days. Great buy in my book and well worth the money
nokia bh 104 cheap'n'good
I use the Jabra BT4080.
Small, light, CHEAP, and has A2DP for listening to music.
i use a motorola one
Jabra BT3030 works good
lv99782 said:
Hi,
I'm thinking to buy a bluetooth headset, any one can suggest me one? Battery life is my main concern.
Thanks
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A few months back I bought a Iqua Sun for about 50 euros (70 bucks), here is a link to the official site:
http://www.iqua.com/products_sub.php?navi_id=1476
I am extremely satisfied with the photovoltaic cells, whenever i get home i leave the headset near a window when it can get sunlight and that's all. In four months of moderate usage (20-30 minutes every day on average) i've only had to recharge the battery (via mini usb, perfect) twice . Of course it works with the Hero . I can't speculate on the extent of solar power charging on daily heavy usage , but if you don't need it beacuse of your work and simply use it when you are driving etc etc imho this is perfect.
I can vouch for my Altec Lansing Backbeat 903 A2DP headphones..what's nice is that they offer noise canceling and music streaming capabilities..and the microphone is out of sight yet accurate when you're talking. I've found them to be very comfortable when using them at the gym and just having them on all day. =D link to site
2 words - Jabra BT530
This is an amazing earpiece that filters background noise, AND can be connected to 2 phones simultaniously
Works like a charm, and fits perfectly in the ear(more ear pieces are enclosed so you can choose the best one)
I can wear mine for hours a day, and not even notice i have it "on"
/Smirge
Jabra BT2020 works well with the hero, clear sound and overall very good
There's only one headset i've tried that's good enough and that's Sennheisers VMX100.
Everyone in our company has one of those and save for a few minor problems, mostly related to generic bluetooth problems and the rest probably related to heavy usage, we havn't had any problems at all using a bunch of WM versions, stock android 1.5, iphone and sonyericsson.
Don't mind people talking about problems pairing it with Windows Mobile, my hero didnt even ask for a pass code.
I use the nokia bh-905 on a daily basis. I am really happy with the features (BT+A2DP+sound cancelation+microphone)
I use Sony-Ericsson stereo one: SDK-MW600, You can pair up to 3 devices, it works well with hero, with GB it even show name of song, calling nr. Quality of sound is very nice. And also long battery life.
Hello, I love the HD2 however it is just to expansive for nearly 500 € - I would rather buy another Notebook
An used TG01 with one year warranty costs at ebay only 160 - 190 €!
I think that is a great Price - now my question - would you guys say that the TG01 is (with the new ROMs) a good phone by now? Or are there still problems with the phone in your opinion?
I want to use that phone every day as Mp3-Player (the size doesn't matter to me), Video-Player, Internet Browsing, "Textmaker" (like MS Word) and to use Pleco (chinese learn Program).
(For example what disappointed me is the fact that there is no 3,5mm jack for my Headphone because I would use the Phone as my daily MP3 Player. I have a good blue-tooth stereo-headset with 3,5mm jack but I prefer to listen music without headset or adapter.)
Its getting there, for the prices its possible to buy them for its a bargain.
Yes being able to use custom roms is great and does change the devices prospects and usability, the things the TG01 does not have, radio, compass, multitouch and of coarse, a 3.5mm socket on the phone itself, flash for the camera.
I like my TG01....
I'll be honest, I like my TG01. I have SPB Mobile shell 3.5.3 plus MSkip Pro Elegance loaded, TomTom 7.9, Opera 10 (best ever), MyPlayer, Office Mobile 10 a ton of other programs plus games like Xtrakt2, Experiment 13. and still memory left. What more could I want! Well, a battery that lasts more than 4 hours when you use the phone would be helpful!!! If you want just a phone, buy a basic Nokia!! If you want something to play with, the TG01 ticks most boxes..
Forgot to mention, Bluetooth headphones are a must - I have the motorola's and they are great.
Hi .....
When you get this one cheap - it´s maybe a deal - when you can live with it´s faults. With the custom ROM´s the situation is getting better (at least compared to the german o2-ROM) ...
But it´s still ...
- missing a real 3,5 mm headphone connector
- the camera quality isn´t very good (missing at least a flash)
- the accu drains really fast when you use wireless connections (WiFi, BT or 3G), usually i charge twice a day and I don´t think I use it excessive.
- is a little short on memory (my opinion)
- horrible performance (with the german o2-ROM - my old Elfin was faster. At least sometimes)
It still has it´s good sides (that were the only things I saw when I got it):
- it´s really thin - you can put it in your pocket and forget it
- the display is great (big & good resolution)
- 1 GHz CPU
- ...
I wouldn´t buy this thing a second time, but now I have it, I use it and hope the cooks make this device more useful (at this time I use ffboy´s 6.5.5 ROM with SPB Mobile Shell and it works good).
If you like tweaking get a TG01 ... but I won´t get it a second time. Toshiba missed a chance to make a real good phone. I don´t know if they learned anything for the TG02 or the other new models - but I won´t give them another chance
After 10 month with a TG01 , this is my opinion:
No one say nothing about USB Host.. TG has it , HD2 DON'T. and it's very very useful. You can read USB pen drives and card readers anyway, connect game pads, mouses, keyboards, barcode readers, portable hard disk!....
Before the official Toshiba update to 6.5, this phone had a dangerous problem: SD card corruption. Since them, no problem regarding SD integrity. Very very safe
Now the TG01 is usefull, powerfull, and FAST!! I use it every day for business and leisure and it's awesome.
I have more than one hundred apps and no problem.
Known Cons:
Battery life (but I always carry a fresh battery with me)
No Flash ( not a big problem for me)
SD card placement (you have to remove battery to change the SD card) odd, isn't? but true. As results, most people never extracts SD and they use USB host or internet for file interchange instead
3,5mm headphones (I use bluetooth headphones)
In two words, it's the best device that you can buy under 300€, and now with the new ROMs ( and that's just the beginning) the possibilities are infinite
Agreed there has been a MASSIVE improvement with the roms.
I love the size. Beautiful 4.3" screen. I had to switch to Garmin GPS from TomTom but only because i don't want to deal with using GPS Gate software.
It uses GPD port, instead of a COM port for GPS communications.
Anyway, I'd recommend it as an awesome value. An excellent compromise if you don't want to spend the money and get an HD2.
Thanks for the many replies!
At the moment I am using the HTC x7500 and I think the TG01 could be a good replacement. For the accu problem I am using since 2 years an Just Mobile external battery with 5V 1A output and 4400mAh - it is handy and also charges my bluetooth headset and my "normal" phone very fast. It should be able to charge the TG01 up to 3 times. I'd recommend it to any one.
What is your favorite ROM? Is there by now a german ROM that works well?
As a user of both TG01 and HD2 i can tell you is relay about design, if you like TG01's design you can get a phone just as good as HD2 for a great price.
Maybe i have been lucky with my TG01 but didn't relay have any issues with it, sure sound is a little different then HTC phones but if you don't put speaker to max is fine.
GPS work just fine for me, the trick may be to have as much RAM free as possible or gps signal lost and have to reset (or so i read).
Audio cable HAS a 3.5 jack but you still have to plug it to usb connector and connector is straight not L shape so not very nice in pocket.
HD2 vs TG01
- HD2 4.3" vs TG01 4.1"
- HD2 448(576) MB RAM vs TG01 256MB
- HD2 3.5 at bottom vs TG01 3.5 mm jack on usb cable plugged to left side
- HD2 smaller size
- HD2 5MP camera with focus and 2 led flash vs TG01 3MP low quality and bad soft
- HD2 has compass
- HD2 capacitive glass screen vs TG01 scratch prone resistive
TG01 vs HD2
- Resistive touchscreen, more precise and works with stylus
- USB host to connect gamepad, mouse, keyboard
- support In Call Recording
- slimmer
- lighter
- small(compared to HD2) XDA community but more friendly and willing to help.
TG01's screen is by a small margin brighter and more vivid at max background light but with light sensor on you will never notice it.
HD2 has better software.
TG01's Malaysia original ROM has SPB mobile shell 3 out of the box witch should work with Sence la Révolution V2 theme (yet to test).
In conclusion TG01 is a good phone for the money (actually beast deal) and by price/features it wins. Another close one is Acer Liquid if you digg android or Acer S200 if WiMo is a requirement.
Also you may want to compare TG01's used price with price of a used HD2 not a new one (i payed ~360€ for HD2 and ~220€ for TG01).
TG01 can manage HD video on mpeg 4 and Divx better than any other device tested for me before. It's a pity that it has not TV out (my former one had this feature) I miss this possibility (perhaps the next one?)
By the way the HTC doesn't have TV out neither
Dodge0069 said:
I love the size. Beautiful 4.3" screen.
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cedesmith said:
- HD2 4.3" vs TG01 4.1"
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now I am confused - what size is our screen? 4.3 or 4.1?
http://pdadb.net/m/
Tg01 4,1"
HD2 4,3"
Nice day
Yippee! Just made a good deal on ebay ... at least I think/hope so
Got an 9 month used TG01 + silicon case (ok that one is pretty cheap) + Richter car suction mount + 1300mah extra battery (intern) for 186€ : )
I am happy
Hopefully I can sell it in one or two years still for more than 100€ and buy an used HD2 for same price LOL
If I think about the loss in value from phones above 500€ (recommended retail price) in general - in just one year - I get headaches.
I personally like the HD2 more. I had/have good experiences with HTC and believe they build there phones in better quality than Toshiba, the perceived value is much higher using HTC Phones.
I hope Palm will made an HD2 soon, I tried there new OS/Phone and I love it! It is so quick and native to use, even with low processor ... and task changes are incredible. Just the phone is ... gosh ...
TG01 is 4.1", check the specifications on Toshiba's page.
HD2 is 4.3" and in spite of that is is smaller in size.
Sorry, not trying to hijack, just needed to check up on this:
Before the official Toshiba update to 6.5, this phone had a dangerous problem: SD card corruption. Since them, no problem regarding SD integrity. Very very safe
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That's strange, because a few days ago, my TG01 crashed, so I did a hard reset (presume that's a hard reset?) (held down off for 11 seconds anyway) and when it loaded back up, the screen was frozen everytime and there was nothing that I could do. I only managed to get it working again when I removed the SD card (manufactured by Toshiba) so figured the card is now corrupt and I can no longer get access to my data and have to buy a new card. But you say this can happen before the WM 6.5 update?The phone came preinstalled with WM6.5 though so perhaps the problem is Toshiba's cheap SD Card? I don't understand it otherwise.
SD cards are not very persistent. That is why prof. photographers are using CF cards. It can happen that a SD card is corrupt after one day or in 4 years, the chances are higher than with most other memory flash card, but all flash memory cards have that disadvantage. I do not think this is due to TG01 just bad luck.
i'm using novembre5's rom.. i've found them to be great for freeing up ram, and very stable.
And YES, he does have a German ROM (scroll down in first post for link... i thought i should link you to the description, instead of just the link)
Tozzy2 said:
Sorry, not trying to hijack, just needed to check up on this:
That's strange, because a few days ago, my TG01 crashed, so I did a hard reset (presume that's a hard reset?) (held down off for 11 seconds anyway) ..........
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I think what you did was actually a soft reset - basically powering off and then on again. To hard reset you either need to use 'Master Clear' in Settings or else Power Off and then hold down the Camera and Vol Up buttons while Powering Up again. Release the Power button when the green LED lights but keep holding the other two. Then follow the on-screen instructions to complete the hard reset.