I have read a couple of articles about crossbow, but what i could not found out at least is, if we will have a crossbow rom for the hermes devices. I now that there is that one hermes from orange with crossbow in the wild, but they said that this is just for test and demonstration purposes and no normal update. At the same page the say, that there will never be an update with crossbow for hermes. Is that true? I know it depence from the manufactors service philosophy, but even they won´t do this, will it although be possible to cook a rom with crossbow on it? Because of the bootloader checksum etc...
Thanks and thumbs up for that homepage and the community...
apokryphus, welcome to the forum.
All we have is conjecture, but the general feeling is no, operators are unlikely to release a Crossbow rom for existing hardware, despite it being perfectly feasible. Commercial reasoning prevails.
This is a public, open forum. We've discussed this issue before. Please try to post in existing threads before starting a new one.
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Hi,
I'm the proud owner of a T-Mobile MDA II with vga camera. Half an hour ago I happend to find this interesting forum.
What is this Windows Mobile 2005? I've never heard of it. I searched the Microsoft website, but I didn't find anything.
I have no idea which OS is installed on my MDA... the ROM version is 1.72.01GER (in case that helps).
So... in case I want to upgrade my MDA.... what do I have to do, where do I get the files from etc. And, what is this upgrade all about? Is it a totally new OS, or what is it? I have no idea
Thanks for your help
Bye
*push*
Hi Bauer,
I too am a newbee. Just joined this forum about a month ago. If I may give you a clue ( though I'm not an expert in it), the Windows Mobile 2005 is supposed to be the next mobile phone OS from Microsoft. It is said to have many more user-friendly features than the one you are currently using. However it has not yet been officialy released in the market (I even doubt if its ready yet). But thanks to our great Buzz Lightyear (http://buzzdev.net) we are fortunate to get the taste of the new promised features. Buzz had managed to create his own version of the said OS and named it the Magneto. Why don't you try to drill further into other area of this forum or go to http://buzzdev.net. I'm sure you'll get the idea, and as it happened to me I'm sure you'll like it too. Good Luck.
Hi again Bauer,
Regarding the question as to where to get ROM upgrade, you can try this link http://www.buzzdev.net/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_download&gid=124&Itemid=32 to get the copy of the new ROM upgrade. However you are supposed to register yourself first to be able to access the link. There (and in this forum too) you will get a clear description & instruction for the ROM upgrade.
I would also like to get this opportunity to apologize to the forum (especially to Buzz and the development team) for not being polite enough to say 'thank you' for all the work you've done. I've had no significant problem with either the upgrading process or the tweaking around with both hardware and software (incl. 3rd parties). Everything works fine with my machine since day one I did the upgrade. I love the work. Thank you all, and have a nice day.
Hi Bauer,
Spend time reading the wiki site too which will provide you with a lot of background about your new toy and the sort of things you can tweak/ develop or pick up that others have done.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/
Also learn to use the search function of this website as you can find most of the answers for yourself without relying upon good folk to give the same advice to the next newbee in the queue asking the same questions ('nuff said, we've all been newbees at sometime).
Once you've read relevant parts of the wiki and are comfortable that you want to risk changing your ROM (there are numerous pitfalls you risk (e.g. warrantee invalidation) and ultimately totally killing your machine if you have two left feet/ power surge/ massive bad luck etc) search these forums will educate you to the experiences of others developing/ beta testing/ exploring. Buzz's versions of WM5 are narrated a:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=23151&highlight=
Remember to pay due homage to all his hard work.
Beyond that enjoy.
Viel Glück - Mallow1
Do you think athena will be loved as himalaya or universal?, So we will see all kind of stuff?
Yea that would be great if some of the Rom Cookers and utility Chef's were to purchase an Athena.
There are currently about 4 to 6 WM6 roms recently released in the Hermes forum. It seems a new one is released every couple of days for the last month. THis mostly in part to the new tools being released to update to SuperCID, change the Boot IPL, New Rom Kitchen's, etc.
I wish POF, Dutty, LSVW, Olipro, Buzz, Jmwright, JJ or someone would purchase or be donated an athena to create some great new ROM's as seen in the Universal, Wizard and Hermes Forums.
Let's donate to buy Ameo for Pof
Lets start donating then to anyone of them who would be interested to undertake the task
The Athena is far superior to the Hermes. But it's too expensive for most Hermes users. I fear we will never see such developer "support" as we have it for Hermes for Athena. If HTC would be clever they would donate a few review samples to xda. I guess that would not only help us but also support Athena sales.
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The Athena is far superior to the Hermes. But it's too expensive for most Hermes users. I fear we will never see such developer "support" as we have it for Hermes for Athena. If HTC would be clever they would donate a few review samples to xda. I guess that would not only help us but also support Athena sales.
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just to let you know, HTC and Microsoft dislike XDA, so i don't think they would want to do that.
Funny right?
The produsen hate thier user....and all guru that help thier product user..
poor HTC and Microsoft...
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Funny right?
The produsen hate thier user....and all guru that help thier product user..
poor HTC and Microsoft...
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It's probably something to do with the genius hacking that takes place here such as bypassing the Country Codes, SIM locks, not to mention M$ forcing all the ROMs to be taken off this site. Still, if they had done their job in the first place there would be no need for this site!
Hi guys,
I am new to this, I have done a few searches, I find some stuff but no clear path on how to upgrade my M3100 to WM6.
Could someone help me out with some instructions and what files I need?
Many thanks
Take a look here, and follow relevant links.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299591
Also don't forget to take note of Mr Vanx's guides!
Thanks for the reply, which version would be better?
Which ROM
Impossible to say which is the best for you really, all of the most recent releases are stable, fast and come with a built in selection of applications and ROM specific tweaks. The "which is the best ROM" threads tend to go on without any resolution, we all have our favorite! There are some ROM polls kicking around that are worth getting a feel for whats popular, i would suggest reading those and then trying a few of the popular ones. I went through three before deciding on one i was happiest with.
There are flavours of ROM's being released left right and centre these days, do a spot of reading over at the cooked ROM's depository and check out the Wiki page for all the information you need:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Cooked_ROMs
Hi All,
after reading many posts and searching for answers to my questions I think this might be the place to post my questions concerning my HTC X7500 ; if not please don't be .. I've just signed on to this -I must say great- forum.
Ok here we go;
I am Dutch and own an X7500 and upgraded to WM6 using Advantage_HTC_NLD_2.21.404.1_1.50.00.00_Ship.exe; as you can see the language is Dutch. No tweaks; just plain WM6.
After several mails to HTC support asking for a DL link for WM6 english (if i'm correct WWE) I was told the WWE version was not due until 2 weeks.. uhuh; X7501 ships with MW6 and in English so there should be sw out there for me. Googling brought me to this lovely site and to Duttythroy's post of 31-08-07. Installing Advantage_HTC_WWE_2.21.405.2_1.50.00.00_Ship.exe failed.
I have several guesses why but am just not sure.
So my 1st question is;
What must I do to install WM6 in English on my X7500? (if it kills my warranty, no problem; just should work). Can I also install the upgrades/updates mentioned in topic "Athena Project Black Touch Edition by PK".. Love how it looks!! if the 'feel' is as well..
The 2nd question(s); Could anyone point me to some specific reading material related to upgrading issues for smartphones? eg HTC's X7500. I'd like to understand the principles of it all. Is sw always HW related or are there some 'baselines'? Is a ROM, phone specific? Is firmware referred to as ROM? Those basic things.
Why these last questions? I'm a former IT engineer/manager who stepped out of IT business and ... opened a restaurant. IT is still a hobby but I 'miss' the last 3 years of phone sw selfeducation..
Thx for any reactions and any time anyone will spend on my post.
cheers,
Hans
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Hi All,
after reading many posts and searching for answers to my questions I think this might be the place to post my questions concerning my HTC X7500 ; if not please don't be .. I've just signed on to this -I must say great- forum.
Ok here we go;
I am Dutch and own an X7500 and upgraded to WM6 using Advantage_HTC_NLD_2.21.404.1_1.50.00.00_Ship.exe; as you can see the language is Dutch. No tweaks; just plain WM6.
After several mails to HTC support asking for a DL link for WM6 english (if i'm correct WWE) I was told the WWE version was not due until 2 weeks.. uhuh; X7501 ships with MW6 and in English so there should be sw out there for me. Googling brought me to this lovely site and to Duttythroy's post of 31-08-07. Installing Advantage_HTC_WWE_2.21.405.2_1.50.00.00_Ship.exe failed.
I have several guesses why but am just not sure.
So my 1st question is;
What must I do to install WM6 in English on my X7500? (if it kills my warranty, no problem; just should work). Can I also install the upgrades/updates mentioned in topic "Athena Project Black Touch Edition by PK".. Love how it looks!! if the 'feel' is as well..
The 2nd question(s); Could anyone point me to some specific reading material related to upgrading issues for smartphones? eg HTC's X7500. I'd like to understand the principles of it all. Is sw always HW related or are there some 'baselines'? Is a ROM, phone specific? Is firmware referred to as ROM? Those basic things.
Why these last questions? I'm a former IT engineer/manager who stepped out of IT business and ... opened a restaurant. IT is still a hobby but I 'miss' the last 3 years of phone sw selfeducation..
Thx for any reactions and any time anyone will spend on my post.
cheers,
Hans
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Sorry for such short answers but i'm headed to bed but still wanted to start you off:
Upgrading Phone
- Take out SD card
- Use Olipro's unlocker to SIM/CID unlock your phone (All three steps)...more info on this forum.
- Install ANY Athena (x7500/Dopod/Ameo) ROM you wish (read around and you'll pick up on what others like)...you can do this either from Bootloader or after the ROM sets up.
- Reinstall your programs.
More Info on Phones etc
- Read through this forum
- Check the Wiki (you'll find it if you read through the forum ;-) )
- You can also read through other device threads to gather a little info on what they do. The forum has 90% of what you need already
Maybe someone else will pitch in and answer questions in more detail.....nite all!
Thx a lot Itxda,
I stayed up late also and read myself trough the forum.. took a lot of coffee and some beers Was my day&night off; was fun again to 'dive into' IT related stuff..
I came to the conclusion that I had to follow Olipro's unlock routine 1st, but it's very nice to have it confirmed!
Unfortunately I cannot get sound playing the video from Agent Bignose.. Other video's youtube etc play with sound so.. 1st have to fix that although I have a clue what the vid. msg holds..
After reading trough the - I like it better and better! - forum I expect that the re-installation of my x7500 will go smoothly. ehh hope so
Again thx for the response; If I find the time I will try to make a 'understanding x7500 for dummies' with my experiences which some of you might fine tune. Will save you Senior Members time explaining and will help me understanding the big picture better.
Is that ok with you?
Cheers,
hans
Hansimaus said:
Thx a lot Itxda,
I stayed up late also and read myself trough the forum.. took a lot of coffee and some beers Was my day&night off; was fun again to 'dive into' IT related stuff..
I came to the conclusion that I had to follow Olipro's unlock routine 1st, but it's very nice to have it confirmed!
Unfortunately I cannot get sound playing the video from Agent Bignose.. Other video's youtube etc play with sound so.. 1st have to fix that although I have a clue what the vid. msg holds..
After reading trough the - I like it better and better! - forum I expect that the re-installation of my x7500 will go smoothly. ehh hope so
Again thx for the response; If I find the time I will try to make a 'understanding x7500 for dummies' with my experiences which some of you might fine tune. Will save you Senior Members time explaining and will help me understanding the big picture better.
Is that ok with you?
Cheers,
hans
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Pefection! Just let us know where you get stuck and we'll help along. Take care.
Thx ITxda!
Just one check before I go nuts; Does any of you have sound playing Bignose's Video?
Tried out on several independent systems; nada.
It's not 1st of april. So no sound probably in vid.
Cheers,
hans
Due to my own problems with getting informations about issues mentioned in topic, I'm posting this thread...
Idea is simple: could anyone explain strictly, what is SPL, RADIO etc., PLEASE?? The reason is, that there is really a lot of informations about it on the forum, but as they are everywhere - they are "nowhere"...;/
In advance: sorry, that I'm not spending hours on searching for answers, but the idea is to collect all this basic informations in ONE place...
Hope you will understand and won't shout at me...x)
I bet this page will answer all of your questions. All the basic information is in this one place: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Athena
techntrek said:
I bet this page will answer all of your questions. All the basic information is in this one place: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Athena
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Ye, I was there of course, but sorry - no informations found about WAHT particular things ARE, only HOW TO do some things (e.g. how to make them works)... Can't find anything in "Athena for beginners" (and Athena Manual), Athena FAQ's and so on... Or am I blind...??
I have to agree with you that for noobs it can be quite overwhelming.
Here is a list of what everything stands for
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Acronyms
The radio is the part of the phone that enables communication with the cell towers and the gps satellites. Upgrades can help to improve signal strength, battery life and gps responses.
Anyone can upgrade the radio on their windows mobile phone without making any other changes to the phone (assuming that the radio was designed for your phone and not another phone- the latter is possible but requires extra work).
Upgrading the radio is quite straight forward- select a radio rom that you want and then either put it on an sd card or flash it from active sync (xp) or wmdc (vista).
This will have no impact on the operating system (o/s) and as such you will not lose anything.
Upgrading the o/s involves wiping the existing o/s- in this case you will lose all of the info on your phone- you can use 3rd party programs to backup/restore.
There are limitations on the o/s roms that you can use. Official upgrades from the supplier/maker will be straight forward- other (better/newer) roms might require you to make your phone cid unlocked so that you can install the rom.
Here is info on making your phone cid unlocked
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315831
This will also allow you to use radio roms not initially designed for your phone
There are other considerations to take into account regarding the memory allocation in the phone. Some of the o/s roms require you to change the memory allocation- more to the o/s and less to the running programs memory. These are defined as spl1.2 or the hacked spl3.5.
To hard spl your phone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316846
Once the above has been done you MUST ensure that the rom SPL matches the spl on your phone- I have made the mistake of using the wrong rom for my spl and ****ed up my phone before.
Should you wish to downgrade your spl then read
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=405604
If you forget which spl you have then enter the phone bootloader by pressing the camera button and using the stylus in the reset hole at the same time.
You can find out which radio and o/s you have by going to settings/system/device info
I hope this helps- please ask if you need more help- it is ages since I last up/downgraded my phone so hopefully any errors here will be highlighted by others.
Be warned that no rom is perfect (not even the stock roms) and that upgrading is not allowed under the terms of the warranty and is not with out risk.
It is fun though...
Wonderful!! Thank you a lot, imaginarynumber! This informations are really usefull Only two questions at the moment...
imaginarynumber said:
There are limitations on the o/s roms that you can use. Official upgrades from the supplier/maker will be straight forward- other (better/newer) roms might require you to make your phone cid unlocked so that you can install the rom.
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OK, but how can I check, or is my device CID-locked or maybe not...? (I'm not the first owner, so I've got no idea...) Or maybe unlocking already unlocked device wont cause any additional problems...?
imaginarynumber said:
There are other considerations to take into account regarding the memory allocation in the phone. Some of the o/s roms require you to change the memory allocation- more to the o/s and less to the running programs memory. These are defined as spl1.2 or the hacked spl3.5.
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So the only difference is a size of memory allocations?? Are this amounts constant for each SPL? And so the rule "higher (version) is better" doesn't works here...?
Thank you a lot for all this work one more time...
hi mrkazor
If the phone is not cid unlocked then you would not be able to use any rom other than the maker's/supplier's rom, so for example if you had a cid lock tmobile then when trying to flash it would check the signature of the rom and if it found that it was not a t-mobile rom it would not allow you to flash it.
I believe that you can check the cid status with mtty using the info 2 command (its a telnet program).
I think that it is ok to cid unlock a phone that is already cid locked (but it would be safer to check/ask in the cid unlock post).
Re the spl, there are two allocation sets, spl1.2 and 3.5 with the latter taking up more memory for the o/s. In general the higher spl version roms have more bells and whistles but there is also the risk of more incompatibility crashes/problems with the extra clever new programs. Newer windows mobile versions will require increasingly higher spl/memory allocations.
To date I have never found a perfect rom- some are better than others depending on your requirements.
I went as far as wm6.1 from wm5 and played with many different wm6.1 roms.
At the time of writing MichyPrima has a wm6.5 that looks quite impressive.
The key thing to remember with any roms is that they are based on the buggy windows ce platform.
Good luck
You were right - dont't know about CID-lock, but I had't had SIM-lock on my device before for sure, and now I have already passed all 3 steps (Sim-unlock, CID-unlock) of Olipro's Athena Unlocker, having no additional problems And what could be more interesting: succeed even despite Windows 7 on my PC I've also updated radio to 1.57, but still having SPL 1.2... In the future will be needed 3.5 (e.g. for WM6.5 by Michy ), but I have no idea how to upgrade it Is the SPL avaliable as a file (like radio) to inclose it to RUU...?
hi mrkaczor
Sorry an ommission on my behalf.
There is no single spl upgrade per se. You need to do the ap4 upgrade which will move you to spl3.5 at the same time.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387409
After that you can then try any of the other spl3.5 roms or if you ever want to go back to an earlier stock rom you will need the spl downgrader, found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=405604
These forums are the best single source of info for htc owners but the info is not always as easy to find as perhaps it could be. I guess that there are very good reasons for this but that is cold comfort to a newbie. That said many of the memebers (much wiser than me!!!) are willing to devote a lot of time to helping others. I think that some of the more experienced and established members like to pretend to be grumpy sods... yet they still help those in dire needs.
Welcome to the "club".
Hope this helps
Hope I didn't come across as a "grumpy sod". I thought the wiki was fairly thorough and covered the OP's questions.
One thing I can tell you from experience - if you have 3G available in your area, you want to upgrade to radio 1.58. It has a large network speed improvement over 1.57 and all earlier radio roms.
imaginarynumber, yes - this DO helps...xD Thanks one more time
techntrek said:
One thing I can tell you from experience - if you have 3G available in your area, you want to upgrade to radio 1.58. It has a large network speed improvement over 1.57 and all earlier radio roms.
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But does it works correctly?? Couse author of the thread about Radio v1.58 writes:
lakeman said:
** adition October 2008 **
Unfortunately Video call is not playing nicely with this radio
I have had to revert to Radio 1.57 to get it working again
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So does 3G works on your device?? Because I have it available in my town, so I'd rather have efficient video calls...
BTW. And how it is about GPS signal? How long is your device waiting for it? Cause I've had radio v1.45 before, and it took ages for my x7500 to connect with satelites:/ And no chance for that inside the building (and for example my father's Mio p560 connects even from the building, of course not too far from some windows... Could Mio have better radio than HTC??)
Hi Techntrek
My slight wasn't aimed at you, honestly. I recently revisited the wiki after not having played with my ameo for ages and found that although it is comprehensive it is not "easy" to follow.
My grumpy sod reference was aimed more at the SuperGods such as Olipro- I have seen how much hard work he puts in so I assume that it is some kinda elder statesman bravado
I think the main problem is that there are too many assumptions re the experience of the reader. As a first timer it is difficult to follow.
Some of the threads in this forum become outrageously long, for example,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=477235
The above is a thread for the touch pro- it is hoped that users will post problems there rather than starting a new thread- there are over 2000 posts- how helpful is that.
I hope that I am not coming across as ungrateful but who has the time to go through such long posts- not even knowing if their problem is covered there or not.
I am unable to provide a better solution and thus respect people such as mrkaczor who have the guts to ask basic questions in-spite of the fear of being shot down. By the same token I also respect people like you (techntrek) who are happy to help others- keep it up
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With regard to the radio options- we have little choice with regard to radios compared to some other handsets- I never noticed any real improvement in GPS- others have. I never make video calls so issues here have never been a concern.
It seems that one radio might suit one mobile subscriber more than others. It might be helpful to mention in the radio thread which provider you are with and ask others on the same network which radio worked best for them.
Good luck