Sony or Parrot - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Accessories

I just bought a vehicle, a 1999 Ford Ranger, and i have been looking for bluetooth car stereos. I have a Cingular 8125, running the 1st Edition of Molski's 3.0.0.0 AKU3.2 Rom. I have loaded the A2DP fix so you can run stereo via bluetooth. I have only really seen two bluetooth car stereos out there. Thats the Sony MEX-BT5000(http://sm.crutchfield.com/S-jlrKOcv...asp?g=300&tab=essential_info&i=158MEXBT50#Tab) and the Parrot RHYTHM N'BLUE(http://www.parrot.biz/usa/products/rhythmnblue).
Has anybody tried these products, have any suggestions on which one would most likely be better, or other products?
Thanks for any input.

killjoy08 said:
I just bought a vehicle, a 1999 Ford Ranger, and i have been looking for bluetooth car stereos. I have a Cingular 8125, running the 1st Edition of Molski's 3.0.0.0 AKU3.2 Rom. I have loaded the A2DP fix so you can run stereo via bluetooth. I have only really seen two bluetooth car stereos out there. Thats the Sony MEX-BT5000(http://sm.crutchfield.com/S-jlrKOcv...asp?g=300&tab=essential_info&i=158MEXBT50#Tab) and the Parrot RHYTHM N'BLUE(http://www.parrot.biz/usa/products/rhythmnblue).
Has anybody tried these products, have any suggestions on which one would most likely be better, or other products?
Thanks for any input.
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The 2000 Ranger has the A2DP already built in... hehe sorry couldn't resist. If you have a FRY's or a Circuit City nearby (or some other car stereo place I guess...) I'd run down and try it out on their wall of demos. Let us know how things go!
--M

Go with the Parrot, Sony's automotive electronics are *trash*.

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play mp3's in the car

Hi. im using a car kit that connects the cassete to a 3.5mm jack and a converter to a 2.5mm jack to my MDA. I hate the quality of the sound. I have to turn the music up way up. almost near maximum both in the phone and the car stereo. Is there any way that I can hook my MDA to my car to play mp3's without diminished quality??? id really appreciate any help.
thanks in advance
Bryan
What software are you playing the files with? Use GSPlayer or TCPMP over the built in WMP (the sound quality is far greater with those programs).
yeah im using wm5... i dont think it has anything to do with the software. im thinkin it has something to do with the headset jack bein 2.5mm. i own an n-gage too and it has the same kind of jack. same kind of results. really poor quality. but when you use the earphones/headphones, the quality is really good. can someone confirm this?
well things seem to be going well for me today. fixed 2 problems with my MDA today :lol:
anyway, figured out the loss of quality when i hooked my MDA to with a cassette adapter and a 2.5mm to 3.5mm jack was not because of any of the accessory defect and not a phone defect... it all trailed back the my cassette player in the car. figures tho... the tape deck probably has never been used in 6 years :lol:
just cleaned it up with a cassette cleaner... TADA! clear music. although i need to run it a couple more time theres some interference going on. probably needs more cleaning. cheers!
bryan :lol:
What kind of car radio do you have??
Sometimes (also with the older car hifi) on the back you have an IP bus or some connector to the cd changer.
You can buy connectors (ebay) brom this ipbus to the 2,5 jack (or3,5)
I have my pioneer ipbus directly connected to my Magician. Works perfect with no loss of quality
I had trouble finding a 2.5mm to 3.5mm adapter that worked reliably, so this is what I did.
I bought a Globalsat GBH-820 BT adapter, which supports A2DP and AVRCP, and has a 3.5mm jack. So, I just plug in the 3.5mm plug from my cassette adapter, activate the "Wireless Stereo" profile for the GBH-820, and viola, music in my car from my 8125!
The sound quality is better using TCPMP, since I can use the equalizer to add bass and cut out some high-end hiss. However, the AVRCP functions don't work with TCPMP. They do work with WMP.
Is the quality as good as a CD player, or even using actual cassettes, would be? Probably not, but it's nicer having a wider range of music available to listen to in the car, and not having to tote CDs or tapes around in the car. And, makes it a little easier to keep hanging on to my 10yr old Q45 for another couple of years.
fj1200 said:
What kind of car radio do you have??
Sometimes (also with the older car hifi) on the back you have an IP bus or some connector to the cd changer.
You can buy connectors (ebay) brom this ipbus to the 2,5 jack (or3,5)
I have my pioneer ipbus directly connected to my Magician. Works perfect with no loss of quality
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i have a stock car radio. hmmm i actually thought about that. but i was thinkin, it would be kinda messy to install that by myself? i mean wires all over the place. i kinda want to keep my car as clean lookin as possible. i was actually thinkin of letting a professional do it for me instead, but i see negatives from it.
1. gotta pay about $100 for installation or so. plus the converter. (vs $20 at most for the casette deck adapter. just borrowed what my bro uses for his ipod)
2. wouldnt that mean that i'll lose the function of my cd changer? i know i wouldnt actually need it once i got it running but then again, it still would be nice to have one.
and 2 good things:
1, better quality
2. more space in my glove compartment. :lol: cd changer is located there.
i got question tho. since you replaced the cd changer, when you play music, do you play music through the cd option?
I saw this the other day at a local car audio store. I hear it works great. It's a bluetooth Pioneer deck. Here is the link.
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-2006-PIONEE...ryZ39752QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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It depends what type of car you have, but you can tap directly into the AUX of your car and transfer audio through headphone jack.
I did it on TL http://www.fperkins.com/AudioinputandAudiovox6600installina2006AcuraTL.html
Why not use an FM transmitter device?
I currently use this: http://www.the-gadgeteer.com/review/irock_wireless_music_adapter_review
Works great.
MPIIIMan said:
Why not use an FM transmitter device?
I currently use this: http://www.the-gadgeteer.com/review/irock_wireless_music_adapter_review
Works great.
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Do you have to use a 3.5mm to 2.5mm adapter? If so, which one do you use?
Yep I use an adapter I picked up at Radio Shack.

Official HTC bluetooth stereo headphones?!

Hey people anyone had a look at a set of these for thier Hermes?? (look at bottom of the page)
I was walking through town today using the standard wired headphones and found it a bit of a hassle with the wire in ma pocket cluttering up space. On expansys they say soon to be released anyone been thinking of buying a set??
Alternate BT 2.0 A2DP Plantronics Pulsar 260 cans
These are also interesting dangly headphones:
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=139855 @ £47
The Pulsar 260 is a "pod" that connects to your musicphone over Bluetooth A2DP to provide stereo audio. A set of wired earbuds, with an inline mic, connect to the Pulsar 260 itself, where you'll find controls for track skipping and volume (which operate on the Audio/Video Remote Control Profile).
When a call comes in, the music stream is put on pause automatically - the user can take the call by pressing the button on the mic.
This control unit sporting Bluetooth 2.0 is for more discerning users with MP3-playing phones demanding high quality stereo earbuds and remote facilities for volume control and track selection.
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@mrvanx: That headset looks just like the Itech S35 Clip available now in the UK I believe. Interestingly, the Itech is one of two stereo headsets known to work well with the TyTN.
That would be great, people wouldn't need a headphone Mini USB Adapter, althogh i know bluetooth stereo would be draining your battery more than usual, you can use this device and even use your own headphones (it looks like you can plug in any headphones), so if you have a dedicated pair of Shure e3c...... awesome.
Consider the R35, also from i-tech. Adds control buttons (although pause/play) don't seem to work with tytn - forward, backwards, and volume up and down do though).
I *really* like it.
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I *really* like it.
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Ditto! !
Hows the range on the R35?
Hi!
Any recommendations regarding the Plantronics Pulsar 260?
Thanx!
i have Jabra 620s (Bluetooth, stereo), working good on 1.34 Rom.
I am about to take delivery of a pair of Sony Ericsson HBH-DS970 Bluetooth 2.0 stereo headphones with multipoint that should allow me to switch easily from Media Player to the phone, and hopefully also from my PC (eg Skype) to my Hermes. Question: I have been reading your posts on A2DP hacks, etc., with interest, but I was wondering if the latest HTC ROM had solved most of the problems or whether I still needed to do some tweaks to get good stereo performance.
performance is good (not great) you will still get a one second skip every 30-40 seconds.
SE HBH DS970 vs Nokia H-12W
Has anybody tried both SE and Nokia A2DP headphones? How would you compare the?
Thanks
darky said:
performance is good (not great) you will still get a one second skip every 30-40 seconds.
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The skip is a real drag. Any word when there will be a fix for this, if ever?
WOW didnt notice this thread had taken off!
Im really wanting something like the HTC bluetooth stereo clip, as i can use decent headphones with the TyTN untethered.
Is there anything out yet that can do the Audio/video remote functions with A2DP??? if so where cos im out of ideas and effort tonight
Kurvenal said:
The skip is a real drag. Any word when there will be a fix for this, if ever?
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hopefully in the next update, a month or less could be any day now
.. or not
Have you guys eventually found a fix with the skipping issue?
I'm having this issue since I upgraded to 6.1. It was fine with previous Shap's 6.0 ROM.
Thanks.

recommend wired headset with mic?

Well my wired headset decided to stop working today! Not really interested in buying a bluetooth headset so can any body recommend a good audio quality wired headset with a mic so i can still make calls?
Unbelievable! I came here to post almost exactly the same message. I too am looking for wired headset (with mic) recommendations. Anyone?
guys im after finding out the wiring n connections inside the mic/button/volume unit. Are you electronicly minded and would take em apart and do a diagram for me. if not where are you and would you be up for sending them to me. I can then post this info on here.
Ive come to the conclusion that bluetooth cant do what i need to need to work with wired units.
s4vva said:
Well my wired headset decided to stop working today! Not really interested in buying a bluetooth headset so can any body recommend a good audio quality wired headset with a mic so i can still make calls?
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I like the wired one that came with my phone. I'll look for a link but I picked up one last time I was in Taipei...
--M
If you have a TMobile store or Cingular Store around they might just give you a wired headset from the display box...I think that most people "throw" them away and go for the BT headsets.
Just another random thought.
--M
After much research and experimentation, I finally found and acquired the Shure i2c-T, which is promoted for the Treo 650 but works perfectly with my 8125 - very well-made, thick cable, monster dual-speaker in-the-ear speakers - VoiceCommand works fine with this - I am very pleased with this set. I found it for under $100 by shopoing around online.

HTC TyTN to 2.5mm Wired Headset

Has any crufted an adapter that allows the use of normal 2.5mm cell-phone headsets to work with a TyTN. I like the fidelity of my awesome Plantronics headset, and I want to get it to work with the TyTN. Any luck?
Thanks,
-Humbert
Have you tried buying one from this site.
http://shop.brando.com.hk/htcstereoconverter.php
I just received mine last week and it works great, MUCH better than the stock headset.
Alan.
Edit: "Sorry mis-read the topic, this is to a std 3.5mm headset jack."
aw000002 said:
Have you tried buying one from this site.
http://shop.brando.com.hk/htcstereoconverter.php
I just received mine last week and it works great, MUCH better than the stock headset.
Alan.
Edit: "Sorry mis-read the topic, this is to a std 3.5mm headset jack."
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Not a problem, but thanks for the referral and review anyway. I will probably go ahead and order one of those, too, but really, I just want a wired headset.
Thanks,
-Humbert
No... I've been searching high and low. I've got a pair of Shure headphones that are amazing and have the 2.5mm 3-pole connector that works perfectly with my HTC Magician... I'd love an adaptor to just run them with my Tytn, but so far no luck.
Currently, I'm using a 3.5 adaptor and then another adaptor to the ExtUSB connector, so I've got no mic capability and two dodgy connectors between my 100 GBP headphones and my phone!!!
I'm going to take my Shures to an electronics guy and have him swap the connector eventually.
I found the following mini-USB to 2.5mm adapter for the Motorola phones.
http://www.theboom.com/adaptors.html
Anyone know if its compatible with the HTC mini-USB implementation?
kcchen said:
I found the following mini-USB to 2.5mm adapter for the Motorola phones.
http://www.theboom.com/adaptors.html
Anyone know if its compatible with the HTC mini-USB implementation?
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Nope, it wont work.
this is where our stores get their accy's from, you can get allot of good stuff here.
http://superiorcommunications.com/products/products.aspx
if you have a bussiness/Tax/reseller liscense (mispelled) then you can buy from here.
With the risk of a "me too" post, a 2.5mm converter would be worth money to me. I have yet to find one anywhere and am about to buy an extra headset and start "experimenting" and who know where that will lead. Probably to a new phone.
I emailed HTC America and got this reply...
Hello Michael and thank you for contacting HTC America. Unfortunately we do not make any accessories other than what is included with the device. There are some 3rd party vendors that do offer this accessory however; they are not affiliated with HTC. Please see the following link for one of them:
http://www.cell-phone-accessories.com/emu-headset-adapter.html.
Thanks,
HTC Support
I have one on order. I'll let you know if it works.
Michael
Hope?
Hi Michael --
Please let us know if this does work. This would be a great fall-back adaptor to use if/when my BT headset runs out of juice.
Thanks,
-Humbert
I just finished my request to HTC support. These devices do NOT work. No audio what so ever. I tried regular audio as well as the audio of a call. Nothing-nada. The adapter is stamped as "Motorola" on the back. Apparently the HTC version of the USB plug is not the standard "EMU" version that everyone else is using.
Michael
Ugh, why didn't they just add a standard 3.5mm headphone jack? That would have made everyone's lives a lot easier.
I just bought the Motorola adapter, ended up wasting $5 (not a lot, I know, but hey, it's money).
Maybe I should try for a refund...
If anyone knows any adapters that work with the Hermes/TyTN, I would love to know.
Well, I finally found an option that will work for me. My motorcycle has a 2.5mm plug for hooking a cell phone into the intercom system (it's a gold wing) It also has a 3.5mm plug for an aux device to the stereo. I got the moto hf820 from amazon for around $45. It is a bluetooth hands free device, but it also has a 2.5mm plug on it. So, the phone section of my 8525 now connects to the bluetooth 820 into the intercom through it's 2.5mm plug. For the rest of the audio, I am using one of the extusb to 3.5mm adapters. That way I'll be able to get my gps directions over the stereo. That is a long way around to do it, but the 820 seems to work out pretty well as a 2.5mm adapter.
MSHampton said:
Well, I finally found an option that will work for me. My motorcycle has a 2.5mm plug for hooking a cell phone into the intercom system (it's a gold wing) It also has a 3.5mm plug for an aux device to the stereo. I got the moto hf820 from amazon for around $45. It is a bluetooth hands free device, but it also has a 2.5mm plug on it. So, the phone section of my 8525 now connects to the bluetooth 820 into the intercom through it's 2.5mm plug. For the rest of the audio, I am using one of the extusb to 3.5mm adapters. That way I'll be able to get my gps directions over the stereo. That is a long way around to do it, but the 820 seems to work out pretty well as a 2.5mm adapter.
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Holy ****, what a rube goldberg device!!!! But, I like your ingenuity. I ride myself (BMW GS) and so I just may try to cobble together something similar to yours...
However, most people want the wired headset so that they don't have to rely upon bluetooth. I want a fall-back headset.
To be honest, I found the perfect BT headset, and so I'm not sure if I need a wired connection anymore. I bought a jawbone and have been using it for 2 months. I like it so much, I bought a *second* one for when I run down the batteries on the first one, I can just use that one. Sure, it costs me $120 a pop, but after using 6 different bluetooth headsets over the last few years, this is the first one where people can't tell that I'm on a headset. Yes, it's that good.
-Humbert
HHumbert said:
Holy ****, what a rube goldberg device!!!! But, I like your ingenuity. I ride myself (BMW GS) and so I just may try to cobble together something similar to yours...
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That it is! I have the Kennedy CellSet (www.cellset.com) on my goldwing that integrates the cell phone as if it is a 3rd party on the intercom. Makes it kind of nice because either me or my wife can take a call while we are riding if needed. Anyway, I had the adapter for a 2.5mm plug and they don't make an adapter for the extusb of the HTC so hey, this works. Not only that, the GPS audio and the phone audio are on two different channels on the bike now. Worked out pretty good.
Hi there!
I'm interested in that problem too. So is there an adapter what is working, and tested yet?
If not, maybe we should try to cut down one ExtUSB to 3,5mm adapter and cut down the 2,5 mm side of the headset, and then maybe it can be built together, and we have a headset, with ExtUSB port.
Is it a possible way? Maybe any alternatives? God I'll be really happy if we can do something to do with this
Could always try this
www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2006/08/18/orange_spv_m3100_headphone_adapter_hack
Massiv
2.5 and 3.5 fix for USB
I too have an expensive Shure headset with a 2.5 connector that I used on my Cingular 8125. I just moved to a Cingular 8525 e/w the ExtUSB connector.
I have been working with the tech support guys at Shure and we have sort of a fix. My Shure headset has a Mic so it needs a 4 conductor cable and the corresponding 4 wire jacks to carry voice to the handset. BIG issue. None of the current connectors (Ext USB to 2.5 or 3.5) carry the 4th wire! They will carry audio out over the 3 wires. . . stupid I guess.
So Mobile Planet and others now have a TyTN (Titan) Cingular 8525 cable adapter that is made by ORA and has its own mic, and answer/hangup control and ends in a 3.5 jack for a headset (3 wire). This means that if you have a 2.5 jack on your headset you need another adapter to reduce the 3.5 to a 2.5 (+/- $10.00 US).
Then you use the mic in the adapter. This is a real mickey mouse rig but it works and you do not have to buy another very expensive headset. You just cannot use the mic in your expensive headset! The cable is also a little long since the adapter's cable is about 20".
If you are thinking of buying a good wired headset then use the ORA adapter (Shure is about to come out with one also) and a standard Shure 3.5 headset like the SE series ($150+) which has a shorter cable. The two work nicely together. It is what I am using now. see link below:
(http://www.shure.com/PersonalAudio/Products/Earphones/SEModels/index.htm)
but they really really work well . . . and are worth the $$s
However, does anyone know if the HTC P3350 W100 Wired Remote Control(http://www.mobileplanet.com/p.aspx?i=145859) will work on an Cingular 8525?
2.5mm adapter for 8525
http://store.pchcables.com/spmoppxvat85.html
I ordered one and it works perfect. About $8 with shipping.
Rosbif22 said:
http://store.pchcables.com/spmoppxvat85.html
I ordered one and it works perfect. About $8 with shipping.
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I'm interested in something like this. It says it works with three-connector 2.5mm jacks. Does this mean stereo headphones or mono headphones+mic? I want to have phone conversations so hopefully mono+mic.
Thanks!

Streaming Music to a Stereo

can anyone recommend a good BT device to allow me to stream music from my Hermes to my Stereo?
YES! I have been using the Motorola DC800 for a few weeks now (picked mine up super cheap at a manager's clearance special from Radio Shack for $30!) and it is rock solid. This device allows you to not only stream from your Hermes to your home stereo/speakers but you can also stream from it to a pair of compatible stereo bluetooth headphones such as the Motorola HT820's or even the newer S9's. Hope that helps ya out.
Cheers
PS- anyone have any idea how to access the DC800 through the mini-usb? thanks!
thanks, i'll try and find one here in the UK. expect they won't be that cheap!
DC800 and S9 is great!
That's exactly what I use, although I wish the S9 price was as cheap as the DC800 at the same Radio Shack sale . I think the miniUSB is power only, but I could be wrong
The reason I asked if anyone has accessed the internals of the DC800 through mini-USB is because when I connect the device to my PC, it detects a USB Human Interface Device with firmware revision 20.62. It's really neat that I can stream my music from my PC to just about anywhere around my house. I wouldn't mind tweaking around with it a bit to perhaps juice up the range and/or sound quality. Googling around for drivers and firmware updates were fruitless.. can anyone point me in the right direction of software that can query a USB device and draw a list of commands, ala PuTTY?
Any assistance is appreciated
so the DC800 definately streams boths ways ie FROM a stereo unit TO a BT headset and FROM hermes or a PC TO a stereo unit?
warmkiwi99 said:
so the DC800 definitely streams both ways ie FROM a stereo unit TO a BT headset and FROM Hermes or a PC TO a stereo unit?
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CORRECT! However just to clarify one point you made, I would like to add that the DC800 will stream from any audio source via 2.5mm/3.5mm -> RCA (red and white plugs) to a compatible pair of STEREO bluetooth capable headphones.
Just picked up a DC800 myself on ebay for $42 delivered. Took a whole 5 mins to hook it up and now I'm streaming 3G over to my main system from my TyTN w/GSPlayer. Awsome fidelity too. Wow.... what a cool gizmo this is!

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