hey all, my XDA II O2 is dead, i have a bit of a story to tell about it too. the poor thing won't boot up past the O2 spash screen.
i was initially selling my O2 around the traps as a working unit, then someone asked me to show them landscape view, and i didn't know how. i soon found out i needed to upgrade to 2003se or 2005. so on my homage to flashing my O2's ROM. i went and tried a 2005 and some random version radio stack hoping to upgrade two things at once, then, only one worked. my OS flash was fine, but my radio ROM didn't work at all. so basically i could get into WM2003, 2003SE, 2005 fine but couldnt use my simcard.
i've tried countless times to manually fix it aswell as using the official O2 ROM update off their site. then i went and sent it to O2 customer service or whatever it's called this year Razz. they charged me $45AUD for general service fee which included flashing the radio and OS roms up to the latest. then they ring me up one morning saying my poor O2 needs a new motherboard (somewhere between $350 - 450 i think). i asked why, they said because it wouldn't power on at all. so i tried turning it on, it didnt work all of a sudden, so to speak.
i still had to pay the $45aud and ended up without a working O2, at all.
i felt furious but helpless and tried not to have to pay the fee, but had to.
long story short, heh, i need to do something with my shell of a XDA II, either sell, sell parts, fix, find a special ROM flash that might fix it. i don't know, i've tried so hard and have gotten nowhere. so, guys, any insight in what i could/should do?? any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks! Shocked
OH OH OH also, on that note, i can't go into bootloader mode or any other mode at all, so i cant re-flash
"NO RADIO" or "NO GSM" GSM/3G module failure T-Mobile Ameo original ROM for warranty?
****** A note for those who may be in a similar situation or pondering over something similar ****
How it ended is that HTC refused to honour the warranty for the reason of "nonstandard software installed / user inflicted damage". To be perfectly honest the law is on their side on this one unfortunately.
I was charged for the repair, waiting for the unit now. :/
Conclusion - as was easy to predict is that HTC will try to use the argument of different branding to refuse warranty, so if you're using HTC branded ROM on T-Mobile branded unit - the warranty goes.
Nothing new here, just for others to have a track.
Also, for those experiencing following problems:
- No GSM, No 3G, but at the same time WiFi and GPS working
- At the boot "NO GSM", "NO RADIO" or "R NONE" displayed instead of the radio stack version, the message depends on the radio stack version
... your motherboard is 99% damaged.
It's not repairable apparently (relax, the unit is). I was charged for "M/B repair", but when the unit came back the motherboard was obviously replaced - new IMEI, physical marks gone. Compared to the price of the whole unit the repair is not that much, so don't despair, send it to them. They're very fast.
The fault is apparently rather rare, but not unknown. May be caused by misuse like leaving the power source plugged in when removing the battery or simply a manufacturing fault. If you have standard software, you will have the repair under the warranty.
Mine just died in the middle of the call for no apparent reason and as I had Olipro's SPL and other non-standard ROM on it I was charged for the repair.
The unit is back, like new, I'm happy again and hope it won't happen to any of you.
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Hi all.
First of all, thx for all the effort that you've put into making Athena/Ameo work with WM6 and all those tools.
Now, I need an original T-Mobile UK Ameo ROM. I have searched hi and low on FTP, wiki, but I cannot find an original T-Mobile UK ROM, only HTC (different branding, etc)
The situation is such - my Ameo was bought second hand from E-bay. It already had a WM6 put on it by a very nice and helpful seller.
After some time of using it, the phone module got fried somehow. After the soft reset due to a hang in a phone call the device doesn't see the phone anymore.
GPS works, WIFI works but no phone, when booting it shows "R NONE" like there's no radio.
I've tried re-flashing with two different radio ROM's, then a full WM6 re-flash, all to no avail.
I have a feeling it's a fried SIM reader, before going completely it complained once about "incorrect SIM" or something similar. The SIM is ok of course, I've checked it in other mobiles and also other sims in the Ameo with the same result.
I've seen similar posts on the net, but to claim warranty I will have to revert back to WM5 or of course they will try to claim that the phone module got fried by WM6, wich is balls (excuse my Latin).
So... after this lengthy introduction - does ANYONE have a backup copy of T-Mobile UK original ROM?
PLEASE?
Jack
Check here:
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Athena/Shipped_Complete_Updates
jpiskorski said:
Hi all.
First of all, thx for all the effort that you've put into making Athena/Ameo work with WM6 and all those tools.
Now, I need an original T-Mobile UK Ameo ROM. I have searched hi and low on FTP, wiki, but I cannot find a definite answer.
The situation is such - my Ameo was bought second hand from E-bay. It already had a WM6 put on it by a very nice and helpful seller.
After some time of using it, the phone module got fried somehow. After the soft reset due to a hang in a phone call the device doesn't see the phone anymore.
GPS works, WIFI works but no phone, when booting it shows "R NONE" like there's no radio.
I've tried re-flashing with two different radio ROM's, then a full WM6 re-flash, all to no avail.
I have a feeling it's a fried SIM reader, before going completely it complained once about "incorrect SIM" or something similar. The SIM is ok of course, I've checked it in other mobiles and also other sims in the Ameo with the same result.
I've seen similar posts on the net, but to claim warranty I will have to revert back to WM5 or of course they will try to claim that the phone module got fried by WM6, wich is balls (excuse my Latin).
So... after this lengthy introduction - does ANYONE have a backup copy of T-Mobile UK original ROM?
PLEASE?
Jack
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And you're sure it's a hardware problem and not a band issue with the phone? I know when I first got my phone I had to change the band to make it work with T-Mobile.
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And you're sure it's a hardware problem and not a band issue with the phone? I know when I first got my phone I had to change the band to make it work with T-Mobile.
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Yes, 100%.
1. It did work for 3 days with some heavy usage (phone calls, 3G for browsing for 3 hours straight for a test, GPS driving across country roads for 4 hours, boy that was fun).
2. Before it stopped working it complained about a problem with SIM. SIM is ok, other SIMs don't work either.
3. After a soft reset and all following hard resets, radio rom updates, full re-flashing still at the black screen there is that "R NONE" message. Google'ing around I've found three similar reports about Athena/U1000 and all three end up with "had to take the handset to the warranty repair, got a new one back"...
4. And finally - I left it switched off for the night with 50% battery still there at 1am. At 7:30am when switched on it had 10%. There seems to be some power drain, that makes me think something is hardware-fried.
I am really cautious about approaching T-Mobile warranty with WM6 and Olipro 1.20 SPL onboard, I can almost hear the answer and I don't like it.
Thx.
Jack
wgary said:
Check here:
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Athena/Shipped_Complete_Updates
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Hi, thx for your answer, I've looked there, but there's no T-Mobile UK ROM there, only HTC.
Does anyone have an original backup ROM for T-Mobile UK?
Also - how can I make sure the Hard-SPL by Olipro is gone and all is left is Ameo as it left the factory? Is there something I have to be aware of (to take it off)?
If those questions are stupid I appologise, but I don't have much experience with Athena, I only had it for 4 days. :/
So far I was always working with ipaq's and Imate Jam. Never had to deal with warranty on those.
Thx once again.
Jack
i can send you an NBH file with the T-mobile splash screens, i think you can find the extended rom in the forum.. i don't know what is the Radio rom version is, nor the OS that came with mine .. i've a problem with the GPS as well and i did buy my unit from ebay
whammer said:
i can send you an NBH file with the T-mobile splash screens, i think you can find the extended rom in the forum.. i don't know what is the Radio rom version is, nor the OS that came with mine .. i've a problem with the GPS as well and i did buy my unit from ebay
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Hey, that would be great. Can you upload them here? Or simply mail to [email protected]
Do you still have original WM5 on your device too by any chance?
What problems do you have with your GPS? Maybe I can help?
If your unit is bought on E-bay, you still should have the manufacturers warranty, check that on http://service.htceurope.com/Wizard.aspx
At that link you can quickly check if your unit is still covered, it should be, Ameos are not long enough on the market to expire their warranty.
Thx in advance
Jack
Thanks man for the info, here is the NBH file i've crearted using the HTC tool (attached), Note that your device should be SUPERCID to be able to flash the rom with this image.
My gps isn't working under wm6, tried wm5 but still didn't work, it stops when i try to flash the SIRFBootloader.nb (GPS) with an error code 00018003, i only get that error when i use the miniSD for flashing, as the normal activesync flashing doesn't show the errors as well as the miniSD one. i've tried every single rom in the forum, all fails .. asked for help but non had that problem, some don't know that some roms don't include that SIRFbootloader.nbh and only have the OS,splashes are the radio.
whammer said:
Thanks man for the info, here is the NBH file i've crearted using the HTC tool (attached), Note that your device should be SUPERCID to be able to flash the rom with this image.
My gps isn't working under wm6, tried wm5 but still didn't work, it stops when i try to flash the SIRFBootloader.nb (GPS) with an error code 00018003, i only get that error when i use the miniSD for flashing, as the normal activesync flashing doesn't show the errors as well as the miniSD one. i've tried every single rom in the forum, all fails .. asked for help but non had that problem, some don't know that some roms don't include that SIRFbootloader.nbh and only have the OS,splashes are the radio.
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Cheerz mate, I will try to combine this branding with HTC WM5 and see how it looks... still I'm hoping somebody will come up with full original image.
Somehow I can't believe nobody backed it up before doing upgrades. In the olden days when I was playing with Linux on iPaq's, how else could we come back? (Ohhh... the warm fuzzy feeling of a text console on the black screen on my iPaq... and nothing more. That was year 2000. )
Sounds like some real trouble you're having there with GPS... I'm afraid it's completely out of my league, maybe somebody else will have some advise.
Jack
Original Ameo ROM
Hi,
having bricked one Ameo trying to unlock it I have a replacement from T-Mobile UK. I am a noobie so I have no idea how to make an image of what you need, but if you post instructions and there is no danger of another bricked unit I'd be happy to upload it for you
Hard-SPL is permanent
Just thought I'd let you guys know that Olipro's Hard-SPL and signature on the bootloader-screen is permanent. Sorry, but that is what made it unbrickable too.
I don't think it is permanent, I no longer have his spl appearing on the boot screen. I presume it was during the last rom flash, (but I've been to sleep since then so may have forgotten what I did), but it now shows as 2.20. before it was the olipro one..
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Just thought I'd let you guys know that Olipro's Hard-SPL and signature on the bootloader-screen is permanent. Sorry, but that is what made it unbrickable too.
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Oh sweet... :/
Thx for clearing this up.
Did anyone have experience trying to claim warranty from HTC on the T-Mobile unit with WM6 on it? After all it's HTC's own soft, but the legal standing is that voids the warranty, so they can use it to refuse repair.
Damn it, it seems the GSM module is not repairable, all reports say about replacing the whole unit. :/
I saw some reports here about T-Mobile UK releasing WM6 official upgrade in September, I think I'll just wait until then, the soft will be official even if the SPL won't.
Will keep you all posted here about the development of all that in case some other poor sod finds himself in a similar pickle.
Damn. :/
Jack
ArnieSack said:
Hi,
having bricked one Ameo trying to unlock it I have a replacement from T-Mobile UK. I am a noobie so I have no idea how to make an image of what you need, but if you post instructions and there is no danger of another bricked unit I'd be happy to upload it for you
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Thx for your offer, it's really nice to find help when you need it.
Although I think I'm giving up.
I'm at the mercy of HTC Europe service anyway. In that situation I'd rather approach them honest with WM6 and the unit as it is, as it is clearly a hardware fault, if they're sensible I have half a chance there.
I need the unit badly as a GPS now anyway, so I have to wait and there's a chance T-Mob UK will release WM6. Then the situation looks even better again.
But as I cannot apparently remove Olipro's SPL, the unit shows clear signs of tampering. If I were them, I must say I would be much less understanding seeing a modified unit which then somebody tried to conceal and did it badly on top of it leaving the SPL cracked.
Or... if that's hardware problem and there's a power drain there's that outside chance the whole motherboard will go and the ROM version is not a problem anymore I guess.
I find it all a bit crazy though, I hate those legal catch 22 cases. ROM by the manufacturer, but warranty void on a 400 quid unit because of branding (warranty would be ok if I used the HTC WM6 straight on the HTC branded unit instead of Ameo).
Ok, sorry for flooding, it's just that the frustration is killing me. :/
Jack
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I don't think it is permanent, I no longer have his spl appearing on the boot screen. I presume it was during the last rom flash, (but I've been to sleep since then so may have forgotten what I did), but it now shows as 2.20. before it was the olipro one..
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I think you're referring to ROM version.
SPL original would be 1.00 I think and Olipro's I have now is 1.20
Jack
Hi Experts of the world!
Im having major issue with my beloved imate, i want to edit the extended rom as its bloated to hell.
Before anyone says oh just flash it, can you get my rom unlcock code from imate?
Would love WM6.1 with some code work around crack or a simple ext rom tool that actually works and lets me delete the telstra rubbish.
If it helps i have a half dead imate 9502 with the imei and rom unlock code if that can some how help.
Hi
When you find out let me know...
I've been on this quest since just after I-mate shut down. if you have the box it came in, you are in luck, as it is listed on the sticker with the IME number, if not... Don't hold your breath...
After I-Mate had shut down, I had to send my phone into Telstra for a warranty repair. It came back flashed (each of the three times it went to them), but they would not give me the code, or tell me how they got around it.
An appeal... If any service techs are out there that know how they get the code, and can let us know, there would be a lot of very greatful users.
Alright guys I tried to search for this but basically I couldnt find the answer,
Anyway I might be buying an orange uk HTC mozart from *bay, and then I'll be getting it unlocked via IMEI code also from *bay.
My question is how will I go about de-branding it i.e. taking everything "orange" away from it and also how will I make sure the phone is up to date i.e. which rom will i have to flash?
Sorry for the noob-ness its just I'm coming from android so all this wp7 malarky is new to me!
Thanks!!
try to read some threads before posting new ones..I am sure you will answer all your questions that way.
Sorry to say I cant find anything that answers my question would appreciate if you could help me out.
I'm confused as to whether the mozart will ge the NoDo update on a non-orange carrier?
Thanks
To be honest you won't see much orange stuff on it! You can uninstall all the programs and after that its just the start up screen (which you'll rarely see as who turns off their phone) and I think one of the colours is called orange uk! But the above guy is right there are millions of posts on here about debranding your phone, I did it and went back to the original rom as the european rom doesnt seem to have english uk, only english american...
Thanks for the tips, but im unsure as to what you mean by the original rom?
Basically i dont know what version it will be until it arrives, but i want to make sure I can unlock it, debrand it and keep it up to date whilst being on t-mobile (which happen to share a 2G network with orange lol)
my advice is: get your hands to the phone first, buy an unlock code through some of the several sites providing it if the phone is locked to orange or another network. then pop your sim in, enter the unlock code you purchased and uninstall any orange apps if there are any installed on the phone.. plug your phone to zune and update it to pre-nodo, no-do depends on what version currently is. remember that you have to un-plug and plug again your phone to the pc for each update.. hope that helped..
I did the same thing, bought a Mozart from Ebay, Unlocked by buying a code from the internet and then debranded the phone by downgrading it and letting it update through Zune.
Still looking at getting one of these, but just reading issues about responsiveness on the latest roms i.e. screen response etc.
Is it an issue i should worry about?
BUMP
My mozart is coming tomorrow on Orange UK, and I will need to use it on t-mobile UK.
Please, please oh pretty please will someone help me unlock and debrand it?
Thanks
I bought a Mozart locked to Orange last week to use with an O2 sim card. All you need to do is get an unlock code using the IMEI no. (I used Unlocking.com, cost about £15), then get your phone on a wifi network and dwnload the HTC settings app from Marketplace, which will automatically configure your phone for web/MMS/texts etc. Then just delete the Orange apps by long pressing on them in the app list and assign the correct voicemail number.
Job done! Other than an Orange logo on start up, you won't know any different.
Got my mozart Yay!
HOWEVER
What the hell is with the banding?!?!?! Whenever the screen is any other color than black, there's banding!?!?
Banding? Oh dear - I think you might have a duff screen
No I think this is the issue
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1028496.html
Oh, right. Turns out I have that too, but hadn't noticed until now! Supposedly it'll be fixed in Mango, and it's no big deal so I can wait until then.
Hi all, I could really do with an expert or someone who deals with unlocking phones that never happened. Anyway, anybody's point of view would be appreciated.
Right, basically I've got an X10 mini(e10i) on O2 and have unlocked bootloader and flashed CMmini 7 2.3.7 and it's been working perfectly for the past 2 weeks with no issues. Today I went out to find an unlocker, the 1st one said he's need to charge extra because it was a custom rom, why that has anything to do with the unlock code I don't know?
I then went to the 2nd unlock stall and I explained it was custom rom etc and he said that was fine, hooked it up to SEtool box and after a few mins said he couldn't do it at the moment as the server was offline (about 12.40GMT today).
I left and put my sim in and it had no service so I did the norm and cleaned it etc and still no joy. Before I took it to the 1st stall it was working then because I got a txt message shortly before and he didn't even hook it up as he checked the f/w version 1st.
I took it back to the stall and asked him what was wrong, he checked it out, tried an 02 sim in as that was the original network and still nothing. He showed me the SEtool log which had my IMEI in it which said it tried to connect but no access to server/offline, something like that anyway.
Anyway, I kicked off as you do because it was working fine before he hooked it up and after getting nowhere went to the market police and got them to investigate. They came back and said what he told me anyway plus it might have been O2 themselves that blocked the phone? Why they'd do that when unlocking is common place I don't know!
I went off to O2 and they confirmed it's not blocked so went back. To cut a long story short I've gotta go to an O2 phone guru for them to find out what happened and if it's the unlockers fault then he'll have to replace it!
What I want to know is if connecting it up to SEtool (SEtool 2 I think it was) would in any way cause the issue i'm jhaving? I've already flashed back to stock kernal and firmware and still exactly the same. I'm also getting no sim inserted now and whichever network I try and connect to I get sim not supported or something like that.
If I can maybe even get a vaiid reason as to why this happened and there's no way they might be at fault i'll have to learn to accept it, it just seems funny that it was working shortly before! If there is any reason that he is at fault somehow i'd like to hear about it so I've got some info and ammo to go on.
Thanks for taking the time to read this, I thought it best to explain everything that happened and what i've done to try and resolve it. I hope someone can help and any guides/info etc offered i'll at least give a go once to try.