Are all mini USBs pins configured the same??
Reason i'm asking is that i saw this...
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/3-5mm-Audio-H...9QQihZ012QQcategoryZ42404QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
..and wondered if it will work on my MDA vario II??
Also I've seen a few Bluetooth headsets with a mini USB connectors for charging duties... Ideally I'd like to use the same charger for phone and headset (voltage dependant obviously).
No, that one wont work, and its a mono 3.5mm adaptor anyway, the audio doesnt come out of the normal mini usb pins, it comes out of the pins on the other side of the connector,
You cant get a 11pin usb to 3.5mm heaphone adaptor for love nor money at the moment in the UK, even HTC dont have any!!
I unsoldered the headphones from the crappy headset that comes with the Vario2 and soldered a 3.5mm socket onto the pads on a 1" long flying lead, and the sound quality is absolutely awesome plugged into my Koss portapro headphones, loads of volume, a decent amount of bass and just slightly muted treble response, but perfect good enough for me!
Here is a solution to your problem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=292699
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Just a bit of whining here...
The TyTN seems fine after a month of use but the headset issue is blowing my mind. I want to listen to the music and talk on the phone with some quality headsets.
First the supplied headset is a non standard USB, you cannot use your own headphones or connect to speaker inputs. Bluetooth stereo headsets are available but I believe that they are still too bulky and the technology is not yet fully developed.
You can't charge the phone while using the headset. This is just dumb, Very dumb.
Needless to say the quality of the supplied headset is not good, it is not even recognized by the phone as headset when you connect it. If you connect it to your phone while the phone is non silent, the phone still rings and not just your headset.
I have no idea why HTC is doing this, the TyTN is a relatively large device and it doesnt make sense that there are no spaces for a 2.5mm plug where you can buy all kidns of aftermarket wired headsets for it. Even the high end headset makers SHURE make headsets with the 2.5mm...
Finally I've made a move. TyTN X Sony Crossover Custom Headphones.
I've used a solder to remove the original earbuds wire and soldered a pair of cut SONY MDR-EX71SL headphones on. They sound 100 times better than the stock ones. This will ease my frustrations for now. I was tempted to solder my MDR-EX90LP on but they are $100 a pair. Too much for now
Later on I will try to rework the stock mini USB headphone and make a 2.5mm connector for it so I can use all kinds of headphones(with mic) and connect to a speaker system as I want!
EDIT: It appears that the original mini USB headset has 6 wires, 4 should be for the headphones and the remaining 2 for the mic, I can simply cut up the wire right after the mini USB port and connect the 6 wires to a standard cell phone headset 2.5mm connector then I should be able to connect the TyTN to all kinds of headsets![/img]
Arent you essentially doin this? http://www.4winmobile.com/tutorial-replace-hermes-headset-connector-with-35mm-socket-vt3146.html as seen in another post, seems like the most universal way to solve the problem.
I do like the way you built a set without a plug, cleaner..less cord and weight, but I know myself, I go through a pair of headphones about every 2 months on my mp3 player, Id hate to have to redo the soldering everytime, I expect with the headphones being such an issue for most peple that the market will be flodded in a month or so with headphones for the tytn, or atleast adapters, shoot, the one guy in the above url even offered to do it for free, as long as you bought the plug.
is there still no adaptor available to buy?
i just do this way........
can swap any earpiece....
crash74 said:
i just do this way........
can swap any earpiece....
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@crash74
Looks very good, even more solid than the other solution, but how do you open the unit to reach the print, is their any trick?!
Can i also use the new connection as a line-out for little active stereo boxes, or is this to tricky for TyTn/boxes?
worked like a dream i have no more crapy hissing inbetween tracks and now i can play my song thu my hi-fi that 1 to the modders and 0 to htc
Adapter usb to 3.5 jack
Go to semsons.com, they have the adapter
qing84, I have the same headphones as u=) firstly I solve this problem like you, but I smash the small "black box"=) with mic and volume control, and i was need connect my mdr-ex71 directly to TyTN without "black box"=(
I was glad that i did it, because sound became much more louder, and more clean...
qing84 said:
Just a bit of whining here...
The TyTN seems fine after a month of use but the headset issue is blowing my mind. I want to listen to the music and talk on the phone with some quality headsets.
First the supplied headset is a non standard USB, you cannot use your own headphones or connect to speaker inputs. Bluetooth stereo headsets are available but I believe that they are still too bulky and the technology is not yet fully developed.
You can't charge the phone while using the headset. This is just dumb, Very dumb.
Needless to say the quality of the supplied headset is not good, it is not even recognized by the phone as headset when you connect it. If you connect it to your phone while the phone is non silent, the phone still rings and not just your headset.
I have no idea why HTC is doing this, the TyTN is a relatively large device and it doesnt make sense that there are no spaces for a 2.5mm plug where you can buy all kidns of aftermarket wired headsets for it. Even the high end headset makers SHURE make headsets with the 2.5mm...
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umm...you could have just bought this.... http://www.cellphoneshop.net/auadforci85.html
i think its a good idea to replace the head phone leaving the mic in workin condition.as there is no connector is still available at least in my town.i ll try it tomorrow.thanx dude
I'm looking for an adapter for my Cingular 8525 that allows me to plug in a plain ole 2.5mm headset that I've come to love.
I've seen plenty of adapters for sale that allows one to use normal stereo earplugs with the TyTN, such as on http://www.doml.net/productdec.asp?pid=2698&model=HTC_TyTN&modeln=TyTN
The pinout seems to be Pinout from Tracy and Matt's blog
Should I, perhaps, just bust open the crappy Cingular headset and do some soldering? Will the impedence for the microphone be the same? How should I combine the stereo that they have in the crappy headset to the mono that all 2.5mm jacks use?
Thanks!
-Humbert
workable, but not great
I used the same pinout to add a 3.5mm jack to the original headset end. The problem is the wires used in the cable are very difficult to solder. They are more like a metallized fabric than plain copper wire. And I am pretty good with fine wire soldering in general.
That said, I did get the jack on (though I'm not thrilled with the non-flowed solder joints) but the output level is pretty low. If I plug it into the input jack on my car stereo, the GSM phone noise (which I *hate*) overwhelms the wired signal every time I change towers.
Bill
I posted a reply to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=450197 because it also talks about such an adapter, but I thought I would post a new thread for the phone that I actually have.
I'm looking for a extUSB to 3.5mm adapter, but not the common kind that allows you to plug in stereo headphones or has a microphone built inside the adapter. I'm looking for an adapter that allows you to plug in stereo headsets with in-line microphones. These headsets are designed for iPhones and BlackBerrys and has a 3.5mm connector with an extra ring to support the microphone, and I'm hoping to find an extUSB adapter that supports 3.5mm connectors with three rings so the microphone would work. Does anyone know if such a thing exists? Thanks.
I use this one. It's kind of big but it is the only i can find that I am able to use my iphone headphones with inline mic. After cupcake came out the adapter stopped working but is now working with cyanogen's rom. I would love to find another smaller one that will work with an inline mic.
Thank you so much flowidc for confirming that such a thing actually exists! Please keep me up to date on your quest to find a smaller version of the adapter.
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I use this one. It's kind of big but it is the only i can find that I am able to use my iphone headphones with inline mic. After cupcake came out the adapter stopped working but is now working with cyanogen's rom. I would love to find another smaller one that will work with an inline mic.
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is this adapter still working for you in Cyans 4.04? mine isnt being detected.
Figured it out. you need the ToggleHeaadset.apk
foltz61 said:
is this adapter still working for you in Cyans 4.04? mine isnt being detected.
Figured it out. you need the ToggleHeaadset.apk
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mine never broke. only time it didn't work was in OTA cupcake
I have this same HTC usb to stereo with mic adapter and have used it with Cyan 4.04, Cyan 41x, and all the Hero Roms and had no problems. I use both Blackberry earpieces w/ mic and a cheapo earpiece w/ mic. I like way better than the regular HTC usb adapter and earbuds.
I found it on Ebay, I offered the guy $5 and he accepted my offer. Here is the link
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330350650612&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
this might be a stupid question, but would the HTC Multifunction Audio Adapter allow you to use a headset that comes with a mic, or would you have to use a earpiece along with an inline microphone?
thanks
shockaj said:
this might be a stupid question, but would the HTC Multifunction Audio Adapter allow you to use a headset that comes with a mic, or would you have to use a earpiece along with an inline microphone?
thanks
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You just use a headset that has a built in mic.
*edit*
Nevermind, same thing already posted but for much less...
Try this instead
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-OEM-Stereo-Headphones-Headset-Adapter-GOOGLE-G1_W0QQitemZ220410822003QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item3351823d73&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
Great adapter and good build quality too (it has rubbery coating on the cable and it doesn't feel/look cheap unlike some adapters with this style). Great for driving headset since it already has built-in mic. You can use any headphones you want, even though I think the original pair that comes with it performs quite well. The downside is that there's no manual volume control on it, but I can live with that.
Dream not of inline microphones...
I got the OEM adapter as well, but on my ADP1, it doesn't fully work;
I can charge, but the 3.5 and 2.5 jacks are dead. They neither work as outputs or inputs. If I plug an EXtUSB to 3.5 adapter into the EXTUSB headset port on the OEM adapter, the phone's microphone is disabled.
I really want an adapter that can be used to connect, via 3.5 wire, to the car stereo, and still be able to use the phone's microphone, or be able to plug in an external microphone for hands-free use.
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I got the OEM adapter as well, but on my ADP1, it doesn't fully work;
I can charge, but the 3.5 and 2.5 jacks are dead. They neither work as outputs or inputs. If I plug an EXtUSB to 3.5 adapter into the EXTUSB headset port on the OEM adapter, the phone's microphone is disabled.
I really want an adapter that can be used to connect, via 3.5 wire, to the car stereo, and still be able to use the phone's microphone, or be able to plug in an external microphone for hands-free use.
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I have a similar setup, I discovered yesterday on the way home a way to get audio through the 3.5mm jack. This is a convoluted way, but it did work.
1. I had my OEM adapter plugged in
2. I plugged in my OEM headset to the headset jack
3. I plugged in the 3.5mm adapter into the 3.5mm jack
4. Started the music player
The sound came through both the headset and the car radio, unplugged the headset and the sound continued to play through the radio. Once the 3.5mm jack is unplugged, the process will need to be repeated. I hope this helps.
rrstx
I was at work the other week and had a slight problem.. how the hell do i get music from a TG01 into a sound desk.. I tried to use the micro USB to 3.5mm adapter with a 3.5 to 3.5mm cable into the desk AUX input, we also tried using a 3.5 to RCA cable... the final thing we tried to make sure it wasnt a problem with the desk was to go straight into the DJ mixer using a 3.5mm cable. nothing worked. but Iphones, Ipod, other MP3 players all work using this method...
any ideas folks?
Have you tested the supplied USB to 3.5mm with a normal earbud? do you get sound out of it?
The USB to 3.5mm cable is just a simple Analog Left/Right/Ground port and so it should work with any Stereo plug regardless of the destination
I suspect that the USB to 3.5mm you used is busted
you can also use a bluetooth adapter with 3,5mm plug, the one i use was 32,- euros and works perfect
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Have you tested the supplied USB to 3.5mm with a normal earbud? do you get sound out of it?
The USB to 3.5mm cable is just a simple Analog Left/Right/Ground port and so it should work with any Stereo plug regardless of the destination
I suspect that the USB to 3.5mm you used is busted
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Not at all.
The TG01 does require a certain resistance to be presented to the device and it is this which it interprets as to how to respond.
If the two data lines D- and D+ are shorted, it will go into Charge mode. If it sees a resistance of around 20 Ohms or more it will switch the audio output to the micro USB port. Typical earphones will have an impedance of around 30 Ohms, while the input to many battery powered external speakers is 4 or perhaps 8 Ohms (ever lower on amplifiers). This is why your TG01 worked fine into the earphones but not your external feed.
This texts it's not mine (just the blue one). It was written for the great kevinpwhite, on MODACO some time ago. And it's true (I've made the resistor modification in a set of stereo amplified speakers than failed as Tomsutton said and now they work perfectly.)
You can read the full explanation here: (I'm xdalover on Modaco )
http://www.modaco.com/content/toshiba-tg01-tg01-modaco-com/298887/headphone-amplified-sound-output/
(from post #7)
Have a nice day
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Not at all.
The TG01 does require a certain resistance to be presented to the device and it is this which it interprets as to how to respond.
If the two data lines D- and D+ are shorted, it will go into Charge mode. If it sees a resistance of around 20 Ohms or more it will switch the audio output to the micro USB port. Typical earphones will have an impedance of around 30 Ohms, while the input to many battery powered external speakers is 4 or perhaps 8 Ohms (ever lower on amplifiers). This is why your TG01 worked fine into the earphones but not your external feed.
This texts it's not mine (just the blue one). It was written for the great kevinpwhite, on MODACO some time ago. And it's true (I've made the resistor modification in a set of stereo amplified speakers than failed as Tomsutton said and now they work perfectly.)
You can read the full explanation here: (I'm xdalover on Modaco )
http://www.modaco.com/content/toshiba-tg01-tg01-modaco-com/298887/headphone-amplified-sound-output/
(from post #7)
Have a nice day
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Cheers pete, Il dig out the specs of the desk and see what the resistance is, I dont remember it going into charging mode though..
Why would an Ipod work but the TG01 wont?
tomsutton529 said:
Cheers pete, Il dig out the specs of the desk and see what the resistance is, I dont remember it going into charging mode though..
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If standard headphones works and aux IN don't work, no doubt. This is the origin of your problem
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Why would an Ipod work but the TG01 wont?
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Easy, an Ipod has a dedicated analogic output. Instead TG01 has a shared USB port with different uses...
Noticed this on mine when I wanted to play music from the phone on my stereo. VERY annoying, and a bit daft of them to do this, even though it's a shared port.
There should be a software option to enable the usb port for purely sound to allow it to pass it across. I see the hardware resistive work as a workaround not the solution (although well done on getting it working!!)
no way. toshiba support:
"There are no settings available on the phone in order to set up the electrical resistance."
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I was at work the other week and had a slight problem.. how the hell do i get music from a TG01 into a sound desk.. I tried to use the micro USB to 3.5mm adapter with a 3.5 to 3.5mm cable into the desk AUX input, we also tried using a 3.5 to RCA cable... the final thing we tried to make sure it wasnt a problem with the desk was to go straight into the DJ mixer using a 3.5mm cable. nothing worked. but Iphones, Ipod, other MP3 players all work using this method...
any ideas folks?
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With thanks to Pere for the kind words above re. my earlier explanations on this subject on MoDaCo....
....in addition, please note that all of these charactaristics are an intentional part of the micro USB AB 'On The Go' port design and will become increasingly the norm as more devices adopt uUSB.
There is at least one chip being manufactured, but as yet not available to individual purchasers, which will support an external plug in device capable of providing intelligent charging combined with concurrent audio out. Sort of configuration applicable to eg. a car hands free scenario. I imagine that such add-ons will start to become available in due course - this is one of the drawbacks of choosing what is still a leading edge device well over a year after it first appeared !
For the mixing desk input, I'd suggest using an isolating transformer (eg. these here) as the ideal means of coupling - this will provide the necessary impedance (typically >10kOhms) to make the TG01 respond with an audio output while also ensuring electrical separation and maintaining as high quality audio signal as possible.
When travelling, I have used an audio y-splitter to hook up two headphones so that me and my girlfriend can listen to a movie at the same time. How can I accomplish this without a headphone jack? I have seen some 3.5mm + USB C dongles on Amazon that claim to charge the phone while hooked up to a headphone. However, nobody claims to be able to listen to audio from both ports. Is this possible at all?
use the USBC to 1/8 adapter that came with the box, then plug in your 1/8 y-adapter
That's what I wanted to avoid. It looks ridiculous with all these adapters. Any way to have Bluetooth and the USB C headphone going simultaneously?