please help me!!! i dont know how to deal with it?!
thanks for help!!!
well, what bootloader are you using?
I think you can't because you have radio bootloader 0108
yeah, if you just ran the exe file to do the update, you're screwed mate. sorry.
so are we saying that even if I ran another full update package like RUU_HERMES_HTC_WWE_1 5B1 5D.35.255.2_1.35.255.102_1.08.00.10_SHIP.EXE I'll still be stuck with 1.33 radio? Would this mean that if I tried I'd brick my phone or would just the radio part skip the flash process??
ratcom said:
so are we saying that even if I ran another full update package like RUU_HERMES_HTC_WWE_1 5B1 5D.35.255.2_1.35.255.102_1.08.00.10_SHIP.EXE I'll still be stuck with 1.33 radio? Would this mean that if I tried I'd brick my phone or would just the radio part skip the flash process??
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You will not brick your phone. Radio part simply will not be downgrade.
thx ghz for your speedy reply! Hmmm and I take it the mitty method dont work yet?
ghz said:
I think you can't because you have radio bootloader 0108
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can i modify the radio bootloader and then change the radio to 1.27???
ywl3k said:
how to downgrade radio 1.33 to 1.27?
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1. Flash bootloader 1.09 on your device
2. Flash radio 1.27 in NBH format (shipped update, not extracted).
This will put radio 1.27 on your device, but HTC_BOOT (radio bootloader) will still be 0108.
pof said:
1. Flash bootloader 1.09 on your device
2. Flash radio 1.27 in NBH format (shipped update, not extracted).
This will put radio 1.27 on your device, but HTC_BOOT (radio bootloader) will still be 0108.
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Is this CID unlockable?
Steveborough said:
Is this CID unlockable?
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Not using my free unlocker, but yes paying imei-check.
pof said:
Not using my free unlocker, but yes paying imei-check.
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Does imei-check able to change HTC_BOOT from 108 to 107?
ghz said:
Does imei-check able to change HTC_BOOT from 108 to 107?
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No, it keeps 0108 on your device.
Is it possible to make a radio upgrade with radio_boot < 1.08 that will allow radio upgrade to 1.33 without the dreaded 0108?
I did the upgrade to the cingular rom with the mtty mfg package, but would also like to try a newer radio. I am currently running 1.27 with cingular 2.06 rom...
I've also just flashed ROM 2.05 & ExtRom. What is contained in the 05_GSM.nb file? is it 1.33. If so can I ugprade from 1.27 and then downgrade later to 1.33>
I have SPL 1.01.
How do I check what Radio Bootloader I have?
Thanks
eagle 1 said:
Is it possible to make a radio upgrade with radio_boot < 1.08 that will allow radio upgrade to 1.33 without the dreaded 0108?
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I disassembled decoded radios 1.34 and 1.27 and I'm comparing them with radare. At the moment I still don't know if we will be able to do it or not.
Once you have the dreaded 1.0108 radio bootloader on your device you're stuck with it FTTB unfortunately...
rv1nd said:
How do I check what Radio Bootloader I have?
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Code:
USB> [B]rtask a[/B]
Enter radio bootloader
[B]rversion[/B]
0107
Only through the IMEI method. i'm afraid that that costs some money.
pof said:
I disassembled decoded radios 1.34 and 1.27 and I'm comparing them with radare. At the moment I still don't know if we will be able to do it or not.
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pof, but isn't the 1.34 radio bootloader 1.0108? And i imagine that the the cingular 1.33 is actually the 1.34 or am i wrong?
Related
For those wondering what's de difference between each radio version, I've compiled a table with all radio ROMs available for the Hermes from the info I could extract from the decoded radios.
Here comes an explanation of each field, some things are just my guess and others are unknown to me:
Radio: Shipped Radio version as shown on splash screen or device information under WM5.
Protocol: If it ends in W means it's WEDGE (WCDMA and GSM/GPRS/EDGE), if it ends in H means HEDGE (HSDPA/WCDMA and GSM/GPRS/EDGE).
KMRX: M6275B-KMRX version (don't ask me what is this!)... seems to be part of the protocol string.
HTC_BOOT: HTC Radio Bootloader version.
QC_BOOT: Qualcomm bootloader version.
DATE1: First date string found (1 time) - this is most probably the radio build date.
DATE2: Second date string found (6 times) - this seems to be the common base between radio's build date.
JNAND: QUALCOMM JNAND Version and build date of JNAND.ELF for MSM6275 SURF and FFA
I have the feeling that HTC_BOOT V1.0108 will be a pain in the ass
If someone can bring more information, it is welcome
Some more information
RADIO VERSION
The Qualcomm MSM6275 chipset is found on Hermes, Trinity and Breeze devices.
If radio version ends in "1" it means GPS is enabled in this radio, if it ends in "0" it means is disabled. Example:
Radio 1.21.31.10 ==> GPS is disabled
Radio 1.22.01.01 ==> GPS is enabled
To see NMEA data you can use the command "[email protected]" in GSM AT Command interpreter. To stop receiving NMEA data use "[email protected]". It is possible to flash a GPS enabled radio from Trinity on Hermes, but Hermes hardware seems to lack either the antenna or the RF amplifier (or both) and it is not possible to use the MSM6275 as internal GPS on Hermes. See related thread for more info on this.
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HTC_BOOT
This is the radio bootloader, do not confuse with normal bootloader (SPL).
Until now there are three radio bootloader versions found inside hermes radio (GSM.nb): 1.0106, 1.0107 and 1.0108
The last 4 digits of the radio bootloader version is returned by radio bootloader command "rversion".
These are the known differences between them:
1.0106 -- still has command 'rrbmc' to read back the memory content
1.0107 -- command 'rrbmc' does not work anymore, but it has been replaced by command 'rdpram' with the same syntax.
1.0108 -- this was first seen in Softbank X01HT post december 2nd devices (radio 1.14) and is also included in some trinity radios. The peculiarities of this radio bootloader version are explained here:
If you have a radio with HTC_BOOT 1.0108 on your device, you can't use extracted radio ROMs: This means you will not be able to flash radios in NBF format with MaUpgrade_NoID.exe anymore, you'll allways need to flash them in signed NBH format (ie: full ROM upgrade).
If you have a radio with HTC_BOOT 1.0108 on your device and flash a full ROM upgrade in NBH format, the radio will not be flashed unless your SPL version is 1.09.
If you have a radio with HTC_BOOT 1.0108 on your device and flash a full ROM upgrade in NBH format with SPL-1.09 on your device, your radio will be changed to the radio contained in the NBH file, HOWEVER the radio bootloader will stay the same HTC_BOOT 1.0108.
The same, explained in other words:
If you have a radio with HTC_BOOT 1.0108 (for example softbank x01ht 1.14 radio) and want to flash radio 1.21.31.10 on your device:
Upgrade your SPL to version 1.09, either by flashing a full rom containing SPL 1.09 or by flashing only this SPL with MFG bootloader.
Flash a full ROM containing 1.21.31.10 (or your desired) radio version, for example jasjam 1.31 rom. This will put radio 1.21.31.10 on your device, but HTC_BOOT will be 1.0108 even if the radio 1.21.31.10 has HTC_BOOT 1.0107.
Flash MFG bootloader again and flash extrom and OS "manually" from MFG.
Results after this:
Radio 1.21 will be back on your device, but HTC_BOOT 0108 will stay instead of being the original HTC_BOOT found on radio 1.21 (HTC_BOOT 0107). This means you will not be able to flash radios in NBF format with MaUpgrade_NoID.exe anymore, you'll allways need to flash them in signed NBH format.
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Recommendation:
Don't flash any HTC_BOOT 0108 radio on your deivce if you plan to test Trinity's GPS enabled radios on Hermes, because you'll loose the ability to flash radios in NBF.
There are 2 trinity GPS enabled radios:
- 1.29 with HTC_BOOT 0108
- 1.22 with HTC_BOOT 0107
If you want to test, flash the 1.22, otherwise when you flash a new full hermes ROM in NBH you will keep the HTC_BOOT 0108 and will never be able to flash a Trinity radio on Hermes again.
Uau! pof, this is a very interesting info. Did you translate it to the wiki?
Not yet, I'm still doing research on the radio and will be using this post to add my findings. When I think it's complete then will probably write the wiki page.
To pof:
Must a radio version 1.14 of X01HT be 1.0108? How can we check it?
So we can only upgrade the radio rom by a full rom only (ex: jasjam 1.31 rom). If we do it, whether it has other effect on our devices? I think we still can flash other full rom after do it, isn't it?
Thank you for your kindly reply first!
kamiru said:
Must a radio version 1.14 of X01HT be 1.0108? How can we check it?
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All softbank X01HT post 2006-12-02 with ROM version 1.33.761.4 have:
- radio 1.14 with HTC_BOOT 1.0108 (radio bootloader)
- SPL-1.09 (normal bootloader)
You can't check it because you need to access the radio bootloader for that, but the command to do this (rtask a) has been removed in SPL-1.09.
If you downgrade the SPL to 1.04, you can see it using radio bootloader command "rversion":
Code:
USB>[B]rtask a[/B]
[COLOR="SeaGreen"]Enter Radio Bootloader[/COLOR]
[B][COLOR="DimGray"]rversion[/COLOR][/B]
[COLOR="SeaGreen"]0108[/COLOR]
kamiru said:
So we can only upgrade the radio rom by a full rom only (ex: jasjam 1.31 rom).
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Yes, and after having unlocked your phone with imei-check unlocker latest version (v4b). Otherwise you will not be able to flash other full rom because SPL-1.09 will check your CID and give you the "invalid vender id" error all the time.
kamiru said:
If we do it, whether it has other effect on our devices? I think we still can flash other full rom after do it, isn't it?
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You loose softbank warranty after doing it, that's the only downside.
flash without radio
I gues when the new HTC firmware comes out, it will most likely have a radio with HTC_BOOT 1.0108.
so is it then possible the extract everything from it and flash it without the radio part.
this way we can allways chose witch radio we want to have, including the gps enabled radio. Or else it will be impossible to flash the gps enabled radio in the future, or am I wrong?
trion said:
I gues when the new HTC firmware comes out, it will most likely have a radio with HTC_BOOT 1.0108.
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I guess that too, as new trinity ROMs are coming out with that version.
trion said:
so is it then possible the extract everything from it and flash it without the radio part.
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Yes, using the 1.01 MFG bootloader.
trion said:
this way we can allways chose witch radio we want to have, including the gps enabled radio. Or else it will be impossible to flash the gps enabled radio in the future, or am I wrong?
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You're right.
There is a new Radio-Rom in FTP-Uploads (1.27.0.0).Can anyone confirm, that is has 1.0107 ?
It has 0107, it's safe
Code:
USB>[B]rtask a[/B]
[COLOR="SeaGreen"]Enter Radio Bootloader[/COLOR]
[B][COLOR="DimGray"]rversion[/COLOR][/B]
[COLOR="SeaGreen"]0108[/COLOR]
Dear pof,
After I checked my device, I found it is 0108 version. But I think my device does not be hacked by imei-check unlocker latest version (v4b), since I used it before v4b release.
So whether I can upgrade to a full rom? After I upgrade it, whether I need to purchase the imei-check unlocker?? thank you for your kindly reply again.
@kamiru: If your device is SuperCID you can upgrade the radio in NBH format with bootloader 1.09, either by flashing a full rom or the 1.27 shipped radio we have now. If it's not SuperCID you'll need to purchase the imei-check unlocker.
Need SPL-1.09...
I used the HERMES Bootloader 1.01 MFG to check the HTC_boot on my x01ht, and it's 1.08.
So now I need to go back to SPL 1.09 but where's the file? I only have the spl-1.04.nb and spl-1.01.nbs from the .zip.
Mike
you have to flash your devicewith a complete rom to get the version 1.09 on it.
sorry
ok so if i purchase the imei-check unlocker, does that give me SuperCID even though my device is not sim locked?
what does the imei-check actually do?
Considering that a full rom update will flash the HTC radio bootloader, can an older full rom update downgrade and replace the HTC radio bootloader to an older version?
or is there some sort of dependency that the radio bootloader can only be flushed up a version.
Where to download 1.29 with HTC_BOOT 0108?
Thanks
Superenchi said:
now I need to go back to SPL 1.09 but where's the file?
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here.
apokryphus said:
you have to flash your devicewith a complete rom to get the version 1.09 on it?
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No, use SPL-1.01 MFG to flash SPL-1.09 only.
walshieau said:
ok so if i purchase the imei-check unlocker, does that give me SuperCID even though my device is not sim locked?
what does the imei-check actually do?
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Not sure, ask their support team
funks said:
Considering that a full rom update will flash the HTC radio bootloader, can an older full rom update downgrade and replace the HTC radio bootloader to an older version?
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No, once HTC_BOOT 0108 is flashed on your device there is no known way to downgrade it, at the moment it will stick forever.
funks said:
is there some sort of dependency that the radio bootloader can only be flushed up a version.
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0107 can be downgraded to 0106, but 0108 can't.
hokkeung said:
Where to download 1.29 with HTC_BOOT 0108?
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here.
Dear POF,
Sorry to my poor English first. So,as you say,if HTC-bootloader upgrade to 1.08,I can still flashed other rom and radio with running full rom method?What I can not do is I can't downgrade the Radio Bootloader?Is that what you mean?Thanks for your help!!!
pof said:
here.
No, use SPL-1.01 MFG to flash SPL-1.09 only.
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Sorry my fault, didn´t noticed that you´ve extracted it already till now i thought there were only 1.01.nbs and 1.04.nb as extractet bootloader-files.
Any ideas? I tried searching the forum already but i can't get a it?
Start in bootloader mode, download mtty.exe and start it, connect via USB.
Then type "info 2" - without the quotes.
All info here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_BootLoader
HmmmI`ve got this message:
HTCS11111111ĐŻ©îHTCEUSB
so it is locked or unlocked?..I have the SPL-1.04 and the Orange rom but have managed to installed the 1.27.00 radio rom withouth problems...but now I want to update the ROM with the SA one...
Regards,
Primoz
p.s. In the case it is not unlocked could I use the poh unlocker again?
Pc78 said:
HmmmI`ve got this message:
HTCS11111111ĐŻ©îHTCEUSB
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This is a SuperCID, your Hermes is completely unlocked
hmmm.....
I have message HTCSuperCid..... is this ok? Only problem is that i'm stuck on 1.18 radio and i can't upgrade to any other version... When i want to upgrade i have error message but not after 10+ minutes, i've got it after minute or two
Bootloader is 1.09
please help
pof said:
This is a SuperCID, your Hermes is completely unlocked
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Thx pof!...I was just on the way to write you a PM but you were quicker
Regards,
Primoz
franula said:
hmmm.....
I have message HTCSuperCid..... is this ok?
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Yes this is OK too.
franula said:
Only problem is that i'm stuck on 1.18 radio and i can't upgrade to any other version... When i want to upgrade i have error message but not after 10+ minutes, i've got it after minute or two
Bootloader is 1.09
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Read: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtractedRadioRoms
BTW, you will be able to use shipped 1.27 radio.
so when we get a message from info 2 that has HTCSuperCID in it then were safe to do whatever right?
@pof
I tried to upgrade to 1.27 radio and i have same problem
madmattco said:
so when we get a message from info 2 that has HTCSuperCID in it then were safe to do whatever right?
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Yes, once it is SuperCID you are able to flash any shipped ROM in NBH format.
franula said:
I tried to upgrade to 1.27 radio and i have same problem
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please READ: to flash an exctracted radio you need bootloader 1.04, your bootloader is 1.09. The radio 1.27 is offered in two different formats: shipped (NBH) file which you will be able to flash and extracted (NBF) file which you will not be able to flash unless you downgrade your bootloader to 1.04.
@pof (hi again LOL!)
From what ive read (see my sig am on 1.09) i cant use these upgraded radio ROMs, but if im not really having any unwanted issues is it even worth trying to downgrade to 1.04??
More to the point (im most probably wrong but...) to downgrade to 1.04 i must flash a different ROM, im happy with the HTC south Africa one?!?
mrvanx said:
From what ive read (see my sig am on 1.09) i cant use these upgraded radio ROMs, but if im not really having any unwanted issues is it even worth trying to downgrade to 1.04??
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If you are happy with the 1.18 radio, and don't need to access the radio bootloader or AT command interpreter, you can keep 1.09 bootloader without problems. There's no difference in day-to-day use of the Hermes as a PDA/mobile.
mrvanx said:
More to the point (im most probably wrong but...) to downgrade to 1.04 i must flash a different ROM, im happy with the HTC south Africa one?!?
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That's a way, but as I see in your signature your device is SuperCID, so to downgrade the bootloader you don't actually need to flash a full rom. The steps would be:
1. Flash bootloader 1.01 MFG
2. Flash SPL-1.04 from bootloader using 'lnb' if you don't want to keep the MFG.
You can do this without having to hard reset your device.
pof said:
If you are happy with the 1.18 radio, and don't need to access the radio bootloader or AT command interpreter, you can keep 1.09 bootloader without problems. There's no difference in day-to-day use of the Hermes as a PDA/mobile.
That's a way, but as I see in your signature your device is SuperCID, so to downgrade the bootloader you don't actually need to flash a full rom. The steps would be:
1. Flash bootloader 1.01 MFG
2. Flash SPL-1.04 from bootloader using 'lnb' if you don't want to keep the MFG.
You can do this without having to hard reset your device.
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Sweet! Would it be a good idea to stick with 1.01 MFG if im planning on pursuing the GPS thing (IF we get past any risky stuff!), or even if i want to use some cooked goodies later on?
@mrvanx: Yes, it's the best one for playing with this kind of stuff
Please help Pof
pof said:
This is a SuperCID, your Hermes is completely unlocked
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I am trying to establish the CID status for my TyTN.
I get the following code: HTCSQTEK_001ÖUSB>
I cannot see a thread where I can decypher it.
What is my CID status?
I am on bootloader 1.09 that came with the SA ROM.
Would like to upgrade the radio to 1.27
Thanks
basilrsa said:
I am trying to establish the CID status for my TyTN.
I get the following code: HTCSQTEK_001ÖUSB>
I cannot see a thread where I can decypher it.
What is my CID status?
I am on bootloader 1.09 that came with the SA ROM.
Would like to upgrade the radio to 1.27
Thanks
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Your CID is the part just after "HTCS"
So in your case you get (from info 2) "HTCSQTEK_001ÖUSB" so your hermes is an English HTC branded device, your device is not SuperCID yet.
Check this post to see which it is (im only going by memory)
EDIT: I upgraded to the 1.27.00.00 radio yesterday, aslong as you use the signed released version (the first option on the related thread) you should be ok, dont use the extracted one. You MUST be SuperCID to upgrade the Radio (covering ones ass).
@basilrsa: Your CID is QTEK_001. Your device is CID locked with bootloader 1.09, you won't be able to flash 1.27 radio unless you downgrade your SPL to 1.04 first, either to continue CID locked and be able to flash extracted radio or to CID unlock and be able to flash shipped radio.
Thanks Pof
pof said:
@basilrsa: Your CID is QTEK_001. Your device is CID locked with bootloader 1.09, you won't be able to flash 1.27 radio unless you downgrade your SPL to 1.04 first, either to continue CID locked and be able to flash extracted radio or to CID unlock and be able to flash shipped radio.
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Thanks for your info Pof, but how can I down grade to SPL 1.04
Sorry for the stupid question but all this is still new to me.
I will really appreciate it.
Thanks
basilrsa: read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=291827&p=1122696
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Howto_Bootloader104
Hi,
I'm getting the following string:
HTCSQTEK_H10é8Ã3HTCEUSB>
but I don't know how to decode it... Is this a super CID or not?
Thanks in advance!
Mogg
Please help!
I have upgraded raido 1.29.00.11 form "Experimental", now I can't change radio to any version.....
How can I do?
Thanks
You've Probably Flashed Radio Bootloader 108 On To Your Device.
This Means That You Will Not Be Able To Flash Just A Radio Rom Any More. You'll Have To Flash A Whole Rom Just To Upgrade The Radio. There Are Notices About 108 All Over The Forum
mousey_ said:
You've Probably Flashed Radio Bootloader 108 On To Your Device.
This Means That You Will Not Be Able To Flash Just A Radio Rom Any More. You'll Have To Flash A Whole Rom Just To Upgrade The Radio. There Are Notices About 108 All Over The Forum
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Thanks for your information.
I already fixed this issue. ^^
piao said:
Thanks for your information.
I already fixed this issue. ^^
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If you accidentally flashed your Radio Bootloader, how did you go back to the previous version.
My guess is that you were already SuperCID and you had to load a complete older ROM to get back. Am I correct?
wpbear said:
If you accidentally flashed your Radio Bootloader, how did you go back to the previous version.
My guess is that you were already SuperCID and you had to load a complete older ROM to get back. Am I correct?
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Yes, I had SuperCID.
My method was upgrade to latest ROM (Include SPL-1.09) and twice successive flash.
First, SPL will upgrade 1.09, but radio still 1.29.00.11
Second, Radio will upgrade 1.34.00.10
not quite. Your radio bootloader is not downgraded. You can no longer flash radio in nbf with bl 1.04. You must flash in nbh using bl1.09. Then you can downgrade bootloader to 1.01MFG and flash os/extrom of your choice.
Sleuth255 said:
not quite. Your radio bootloader is not downgraded. You can no longer flash radio in nbf with bl 1.04. You must flash in nbh using bl1.09. Then you can downgrade bootloader to 1.01MFG and flash os/extrom of your choice.
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So he can change radio or not?
He can change. But he must start with a specific Bootloader and flash a full RUU in nbh. Then he must put on BL1.01MFG and flash seperate os.nb and extrom to change to the os build he wants. The "radio only" upgrades flash in nbf and will not work any more.
Sleuth255 said:
He can change. But he must start with a specific Bootloader and flash a full RUU in nbh. Then he must put on BL1.01MFG and flash seperate os.nb and extrom to change to the os build he wants. The "radio only" upgrades flash in nbf and will not work any more.
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ok thanks, i'm iterresting for radio upgrade only (after bigggg mistake Flashed HTC_BOOT 1.08).
SO no issue for me now:-(
The key here is that Bl1.09 and radio bl 1.0108 work together. 1.09 will not allow the radio to upgrade unless flashed in NBH. Radio bl 1.0108 will not permit upgrades unless initiated from bl 1.09. If superCID is enabled then bl 1.09 will permit any operator's rom, flashed in nbh, to upgrade the radio.
I really need to flowchart this for the wiki... I barely understand this myself...
but why, after restoring all, bootloader 1.01mfg etc. it is still impossible to flash radio rom only?
i can´t get it.
Actuality, I used this ROM "RUU_Hermes_HTC_WWE_2.05.255.1_6275_1.34.00.10 _108 _Test.exe".
After flashed, I don't change SPL to 1.01 MFG or 1.04, just re-flashed it again.
The radio will be change 1.34.00.10.
apokryphus said:
but why, after restoring all, bootloader 1.01mfg etc. it is still impossible to flash radio rom only?
i can´t get it.
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Device BL 1.09 acts as the "key" for Radio BL 1.0108. By flashing to Device BL 1.01, or any other, you have broken the "key" and now can't access the radio rom...basically.
Ninja1
apokryphus said:
but why, after restoring all, bootloader 1.01mfg etc. it is still impossible to flash radio rom only?
i can´t get it.
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radio bl 1.0108 won't allow upgrade to occur unless initiated by bl1.09. bl1.09 won't allow radio flashing in nbf (which is what all extracted radio rom only files use)
somehow i have flashed the bootloader 1.09 onto my device/.. hahaahaha
has anyone been able to flash back to 1.04/1.06??
edit... and no its not SuperCID
One solution is to obtain the bootleg 1.04 bootloader downgrade solution. With bl1.04 in place you can SuperCID. You may also be able to unlock with IMEI-check unlocker which I believe will also SuperCID you for 20 euros. I'm not too clear on this though...
thanks... will try and have a look for it....
found it and tried it but im getting a '262' error.. and does anyone have the Readme.doc file???
woohoo!!!!! all works!!!!! i can confirm it downgrades it to 1.04...
At least you're somewhere. I'd try pof's superCID solution next. It may not work though. If not, you'll have to superCID with IMEI-check's unlocker.
edit:
the reason that pof's solution may not work is that your radio bootloader may not permit flashing of the custom radio rom required to implement it. I'm just not sure what radio you flashed when you mistakenly got bl1.09....
it's never easy.....
flashing POF's SuperCID radio now... currently 19%.....
works!!! now SuperCID after using DownGrade_SPL.rar and then flashing POF's patched radio... now to decide which version of OS and RADIO to update to... Sleuth, can you confirm if i now run an update from the exe will it keep the SuperCID and update the SPL to 1.09??
Best to stay 1.04 or even 1.01 MFG BL.
Flashing in nbh (using ruu exe) will maintain SuperCID so you can always get back to bl1.04 or 1.01MFG by using the bl1.01MFG solution (it includes bl1.04 in the download).
Watch out for the radio you flash though! flashing in nbh updates everything! Check the wiki: if radio bl is 1.0108 you don't want to go there!
Also: first test to make sure you are superCID by using mtty. Issue a "task 32" command. It must return "level = 0"
mmmm interesting... im using the Dopod838Pro variant of the HERM100.... now it was SuperCID, i just reflashed it with the HTC 2.05 Test ROM and now my CID is back to DOPOD001..... any ideas???
I was afraid of that. What's your radio ROM now? I believe you gave yourself a radio with bl 1.0108 when you originally flashed the rom that gave you bl1.09.
bugger.... put bootloader back to 1.04 and now reflashing radio to POF's patched SuperCID radio....
edit... but im curious as to why didnt it save the SuperCID???
pof's radio flash is actually failing because your current radio bl (1.0108) isn't allowing it to flash.
You may be down to purchasing imei-check unlock solution to get superCID. Your radio upgrade choices will be limited too if this is the case.
after you're done flashing and running the update, immediately go to mtty and issue task 32. It must say "level = 0" if you are SuperCID. The update program always says "success" btw.
whats the command in bootloader to get the version of Radio Firmware / BL??
Maybe no need, first get your radio version in settings->system->Device info then look it up in the "available radio roms" wiki section. Radio bl is shown there.
If you are on a radio with bl 1.0108, your options (still a lot of them )are essentially spelled out in this thread.
ok but if i have managed to flash a new version of Radio ROM and Radio BL, if i downgrade the Radio Version to lets say 1.20.31.10 does it keep the newer version of Radio BL??
edit ...... ahh sh**.... Radio version is 1.34.00.10, is there any chance/possibility of downgrading this??? so i can SuperCID my device???
Hello, What you use to downgrade the bootloader?
Using the imei-check to unlock the phone?
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ok but if i have managed to flash a new version of Radio ROM and Radio BL, if i downgrade the Radio Version to lets say 1.20.31.10 does it keep the newer version of Radio BL??
edit ...... ahh sh**.... Radio version is 1.34.00.10, is there any chance/possibility of downgrading this??? so i can SuperCID my device???
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bugger.... put bootloader back to 1.04 and now reflashing radio to POF's patched SuperCID radio....
edit... but im curious as to why didnt it save the SuperCID???
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Did you run Herm_Unlock_v2a.exe on your Hermes after flashing the unlocker's 1.16 patched radio? If not, that's why you lost SuperCID.
I've read and reread various posts about this. I just want to make sure I have the steps down before I go forward.
What I have now:
Cingular 8525
Rom: 1.34.502.1
Radio version : 1.16
SPL: 1.06
What I would like achieve:
Rom: 2.06.502.3
Radion version: 1.27
SPL: 1.04
Ext Rom: 2.06.502.3
1) Downgrade to SPL 1.04 by flashing the 8525 with file RUU_HER_Cingular_1.30.502.1_1.11.00.00_wwe_cws_ship.exe. This is because it matches my CID CWS__001 and it has SPL 1.04. I guess I simply run it without any other preparations. Is this correct?
2) Super CID and simunlock using HTC_Hermes_SIM_Unlock_v2a.zip
3) I choose the ROM RUU_Hermes_CINGULAR_WWE_2.06.502.3_6275_1.33.31.00_108_Ship.exe
4) Use NBExtract to decompress the above ROM to get files OS.nbf and Extrom.nbf file
5) Flash SPL 1.01MFG using mtty.exe. Is this necessary? Can't I flash OS.nbf with SPL1.04?
6) Flash OS.nbf file extracted using mtty.exe
7) Flash extrom.nbf file extracted using mtty.exe
8) Flash radio from file RUU_Hermes_TMD-TMA_Radiopatch_1.27.00.00_107_GER.exe by simply running it. Is this correct?
Am I missing something in the process?
Lastly, Is this the best COMBINATION of ROM, radio, and ext ROM? And how does RUU_Hermes_CINGULAR_WWE_2[1].06.502.3_6275_1.33.31.00_108_Ship compared to 2.05?
Thanks for any input.
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1) Downgrade to SPL 1.04 by flashing the 8525 with file RUU_HER_Cingular_1.30.502.1_1.11.00.00_wwe_cws_ship.exe. This is because it matches my CID CWS__001 and it has SPL 1.04. I guess I simply run it without any other preparations. Is this correct?
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I guess there isnt really any need to do that, if you flash SPL 1.01MFG to it then theres no need to do this step.
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2) Super CID and simunlock using HTC_Hermes_SIM_Unlock_v2a.zip
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I would use the unlocker v3 (i suspect you meant v3 anyway)
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3) I choose the ROM RUU_Hermes_CINGULAR_WWE_2.06.502.3_6275_1.33.31.00_108_Ship.exe
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The ROM you choose is entirely up to you so yes this should be ok
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4) Use NBExtract to decompress the above ROM to get files OS.nbf and Extrom.nbf file
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Yep goes without saying ;-)
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5) Flash SPL 1.01MFG using mtty.exe. Is this necessary? Can't I flash OS.nbf with SPL1.04?
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IF you are doing this then it would be the FIRST step you do
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6) Flash OS.nbf file extracted using mtty.exe
7) Flash extrom.nbf file extracted using mtty.exe
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Still....yes no problem.
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8) Flash radio from file RUU_Hermes_TMD-TMA_Radiopatch_1.27.00.00_107_GER.exe by simply running it. Is this correct?
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This part is beyond what i did, my process was that i upgraded to radio ROM 1.27.00.00 using the signed .exe because i originally had SPL 1.09.
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Am I missing something in the process?
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You seem to have it figured out, but dont go on what i say here, wait for it to be verified by more than just me
My process (having already got superCID and unlocked a while ago) was to upgrade to radio 1.27.00.00 before anything else, then to flash SPL 1.01MFG using mtty, then flash the OS.nb file from the ROM i chose, then to flash ExtROM.nb (again from the ROM i chose). By using radio 1.27 you will have radio loader 107 which is recommended still.
Once some other people have looked over what you posted then you should go ahead (if they all give the "all clear" )
You combination of rom and radio is a good idea (the ROM and ExtROM is entirely up to you but the radio is the highest that doesnt have loader 108?)
It's even easier than that;
get my Custom RUU kit and you can skip the reflash;
take the 3.3AKU and extract the RUU_Signed.
extract the RUU signed with NBHExtract or my GUI tool (make sure it's all in the same directory) then you can create a NEW RUU with SPL 1.04, whatever radio you like (if you want a new one) and the 3.3 OS AKU.
remember: if you do it this way, you can have whatever components you want; ExtROM, OS, mix and match anything.
however... if you don't think you can manage doing this, tell me what you want and I'll happily assemble it for you
1. SuperCid and Unlock with POF VERSION 3
Website:
http://pof.eslack.org/hermes-unlocker/
Install Instructions:
Easy auto-install Instructions:
Unzip unlocker and run AUTO_Unlock_v3.bat
If you don't want to install automatically, or for some reason the process doesn't work for you, here are the manual instructions:
Transfer SSPL/SSPL-HERM.exe to your phone and run it
Tri-color screen will appear
Disable activesync (file -> connection settings -> uncheck "allow USB connections")
Connect your phone to your computer using the USB lead.
Run RUU/ROMUpgradeUt.exe
Follow the flashing process (Check the "I understand..." and "I completed..." boxes and update!)
Allow your phone to reboot.
Transfer HERM_Unlock_v3.exe program to your phone and run it
Click the Unlock Button, select unlock option. Select if you want SIM/CID unlock.
Click "Unlock!" and wait until process finishes.
When done, turn off your phone for 10 seconds and reboot after that.
2. Then Run this cooked ROM (Cooked w/Olipro software)
http://uploadingit.com/files/8194/RUU_CINGULAR_2.06.502.3_1.27.00.00_SPL1.04.zip
Rom: 2.06.502.3
Radion version: 1.27
SPL: 1.04
Ext Rom: 2.06.502.3
I think radio 1.33 or 1.34 is better then 1.27. I do not see a difference between 1.33 or 1.34 though.
You pretty much had the process but this will be easier for you.
just to point out; SuperCID and Unlock (unless using a different SIM) is unnecessary and *could* potentially invalidate your warranty.
SuperCID is pretty much redundant nowadays with the new SSPL; the only real advantage to having your device SuperCID is if there isn't a ROM for your CID with old version stuff to revert to.
Thank you for all the replies! I appreciate it.
@mrvanx and wpbear
The reason stated using unlocker v2a was because, from what I understand, if I use v3 it would put a patched 1.08 Radio BL (which I thought we want to avoid). Which means that I won't be able to "downgrade" to a lower version radio. Am I wrong?
@mrvanx
You said that I didn't need to downgrade to 1.04 BL because I could use 1.01MFG. I thought that I couldn't do that with 1.06 or higher. I had to downgrade to 1.04 first.
@wpbear
I assume in order to use your custom cooked ROM, I have to SuperCID right?
@Olipro
Thanks for the offer of cooking up a ROM. I think wpbear's ROM has everything I wanted. But again, if I wanted to use your ROM, I would have to SuperCID? Also, where can I get your GUI?
But what is the best combination right now of OS, Ext, and radio?
Thanks again!
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Also, where can I get your GUI?
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Nevermind, I found your GUI. Thanks!
The only advantage of real SuperCID is being able to write to extrom once you've unlocked it.
You did a real nice v1.0 upgrade set of instructions btw They were perfect. In fact that's exactly what I did to upgrade my 8525.
However, the recent explosion of NBHtools that take advantage of Des' SSPL technique (nicely done Olipro btw )have opened up much better ways to accomplish this now.
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Thank you for all the replies! I appreciate it.
@Olipro
Thanks for the offer of cooking up a ROM. I think wpbear's ROM has everything I wanted. But again, if I wanted to use your ROM, I would have to SuperCID? Also, where can I get your GUI?
But what is the best combination right now of OS, Ext, and radio?
Thanks again!
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no, you do *not* have to SuperCID at all with my RUU since it uses SSPL.
if you use the custom RUU (and you can tell, it has the XDA Dev logo on) then your device does not need to be SuperCID
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You said that I didn't need to downgrade to 1.04 BL because I could use 1.01MFG. I thought that I couldn't do that with 1.06 or higher. I had to downgrade to 1.04 first.
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You SHOULD be ok, i downgraded to SPL 1.01MFG from version 1.09 by just flashing it using mtty.exe. I followed the instructions on the How to Flash AKU3.3 Update thread (the first post) to get my new ROM onto my device. I used the HTC AKU3.3 Test ROM and it worked just great.
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Thank you for all the replies! I appreciate it.
@mrvanx and wpbear
The reason stated using unlocker v2a was because, from what I understand, if I use v3 it would put a patched 1.08 Radio BL (which I thought we want to avoid). Which means that I won't be able to "downgrade" to a lower version radio. Am I wrong?
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I do not think Pof unlocker put BL 108 on your device, but it doesnt matter anymore since SSPL bypass this and you can now still do radio only changes.
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@wpbear
I assume in order to use your custom cooked ROM, I have to SuperCID right?
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No, the bootloader bypasses this now, but as someone else pointed out, if you want to change your Ext_ROM with the hack in the Wiki later, you will need to SuperCID still.
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But what is the best combination right now of OS, Ext, and radio?
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OS/Ext ROM: 2.06
Radio 1.34 or 1.27
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Then Run this cooked ROM (Cooked w/Olipro software)
http://uploadingit.com/files/8194/RUU_CINGULAR_2.06.502.3_1.27.00.00_SPL1.04.zip
Rom: 2.06.502.3
Radion version: 1.27
SPL: 1.04
Ext Rom: 2.06.502.3
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@wpbear
I used the cooked ROM RUU_CINGULAR_2.06.502.3_1.27.00.00_SPL1.04.zip for the upgrade. One question, I have SPL 1.06 before upgrading. Since the cooked ROM has 1.04 in it, I thought it would downgrade to 1.04. Instead, the SPL did not change. Why?
Same result, same question.
Why?
Where can I download this Rom?
Where can I download this Rom?
Download link doesn't work....
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@wpbear
I used the cooked ROM RUU_CINGULAR_2.06.502.3_1.27.00.00_SPL1.04.zip for the upgrade. One question, I have SPL 1.06 before upgrading. Since the cooked ROM has 1.04 in it, I thought it would downgrade to 1.04. Instead, the SPL did not change. Why?
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Are you SuperCID with POf unlocker?
SuperCID/unlock yes. POF no.
Wiki and numberous posts indicate if the unit is SuperCID, it is SuperCID period however there is a v2 v2a and v3.
Is there more to SuperCID than just SuperCID?
Sometimes it sticks and sometimes it does not?
Can v3 be run over top of an existing SuperCID/unlocked unit without risk?
True you are either SuperCID or not, but we have seen people loose SuperCID for no apparent reason. Use mtty and check if you are still SuperCID.
Still superCID, still 1.06.
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Still superCID, still 1.06.
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once you have superCID you can downgrade your bootloader by this http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_BootloaderMFG