Ok - been doing a bit of upgrading today. Went to WMXL .20 today - very good! Then went to Olipro's BL today again great!
And now I have just finally upgraded my radio to 1.34 which seems to have gone flawless.
However, my connection just went from a G symbol to an E symbol. Now I live on the very edge of the 3G network and before the upgrade, every once in a long time I'd have one peg of 3G (Used to read U and then 3G when I went to WMXL) but now it's showing I have full signal E which I've never seen except on my friends Palm 750W which is on verizon and it shows an E when connected to their EVDO service. To my knowedge this isn't possible for my phone so is this an error? Anybody else have this problem? The phone still makes and recieves calls fine (in fact, better connect - voice quality - less lag) but it's still weird to get the E
Trust me, it's not EVDO, that's physically impossible for a Hermes So it's gotta be EDGE.
Trancecoder said:
Trust me, it's not EVDO, that's physically impossible for a Hermes So it's gotta be EDGE.
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Yeah - I knew it was a practical impossibility for the hermes to have EVDO but that's the only place I've EVER seen the E. Do other people have the E showing up with Cingular? I'll be curious to see what I get tomorrow when I go into town where there's 3G service.
Cingular does have EDGE service in most locations - a lot more than 3G - so it would make sense.
in wm5 mine showed G when I was roaming away from 3Aus to Telstra, now it shows an E for roaming. This is quite good as telstra uses Edge (2.75G) not GPRS (2.5G).
some nonsense from me.. regarding the title "E is for Edge?", on how xda-dev members will teach their kids (*hint Vj) ABC
A for Apple - the company behind `I`
B for Bluetooth - going wireless
C for Crossbow - name for WM6
D for DoCoMo - if you are in Japan
E for Edge - as per this thread
F for Frequency - is your phone tri-band?
G for GPRS - data packet rocks
H for HTC - the company that *add your comments here*
I for eye-Phone - er..
L for ..?
M for Microsoft - that bastard
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hanmin said:
some nonsense from me.. regarding the title "E is for Edge?", on how xda-dev members will teach their kids (*hint Vj) ABC
E for Edge - as per this thread
G for GPRS - data packet rocks
H for HTC - the company that *add your comments here*
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H for HTC ....
maybe H stand for HSDPA ....
get it
im on the rogers network and prior to upgrading to wm6 it showed "G" now mine shows up as "E" as well.. is this normal?
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I'm getting H icon on my tytn now when I'm online. I was not aware that At&t had HSDPA rolled out. Anybody else had this happened to them?? First time that I see H icon in usa. I love it, also if some of you guys do know about At&t runing HSDPA what are the speeds that you are getting??
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Man if you dont know at-t has 3g something is up with you.. they bought cingular think about it. do a speed test and see what speeds you get... it should switch back and forth from 3g to H
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Man if you dont know at-t has 3g something is up with you.. they bought cingular think about it. do a speed test and see what speeds you get... it should switch back and forth from 3g to H
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I know they do, I never got H icon before, I always had 3G, I just wanted to know if anybody else had H icon cause when I'm online on the phone H icon is always on. Once when I'm online it never goes back to 3G just stays at H.
The newer radios don't use HSDPA until needed, so the connection sits at 3G until the device downloads something, and then it switches to HSDPA, thus why you see the 'H'...
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I'm getting H icon on my tytn now when I'm online. I was not aware that At&t had HSDPA rolled out. Anybody else had this happened to them?? First time that I see H icon in usa. I love it, also if some of you guys do know about At&t running HSDPA what are the speeds that you are getting??
Thanks
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Early Radio versions didn't have HSDPA enabled in them, the later radios (all those with a protocol version ending with 'H') have HSDPA enabled on them.
HSDPA rocks.
So could this be the reason why I get an E (edge) instead of a G, I just upgraded to black. When i soft reset the phone, the shows up for a minute then goes to e. It never done that before i upgraded... I also have cingular.
well E = EDGE which is a little faster than straight up G = Gprs so thats a good thing they might have upgraded the towers in your area or something since Black is a OS.nb only install and doesn't have a Radio.nb in the package... OR it could be that your older rom didnt have the proper icon base inside of it and only supported the G icon
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well E = EDGE which is a little faster than straight up G = Gprs so thats a good thing they might have upgraded the towers in your area or something since Black is a OS.nb only install and doesn't have a Radio.nb in the package... OR it could be that your older rom didnt have the proper icon base inside of it and only supported the G icon
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Can u tell me if the 'H' is indeed faster than '3G'? cause me too is seeing the 'h' icon for the first time on my cingular network... but it doesn't stay.
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Can u tell me if the 'H' is indeed faster than '3G'? cause me too is seeing the 'h' icon for the first time on my cingular network... but it doesn't stay.
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what do you think? do you think HSDPA is faster than 3G? have you done any looking into this to see what type of speed you could get? did you look at the cingular website?
I've just got a T-mobile Ameo, unlocked it, upgraded radio to 1.50 and added the AP Dual ROM.
Not sure if I need to change any settings anywhere but I can't for the life of me get anything other than a "G" showing up and very slow connection speeds to match.
I've definitly got it in my area so my next step was to try a different radio. Does anyone have any recommendations which one works on O2/UK or things to try before changing radio?
Many thanks
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I've just got a T-mobile Ameo, unlocked it, upgraded radio to 1.50 and added the AP Dual ROM.
Not sure if I need to change any settings anywhere but I can't for the life of me get anything other than a "G" showing up and very slow connection speeds to match.
I've definitly got it in my area so my next step was to try a different radio. Does anyone have any recommendations which one works on O2/UK or things to try before changing radio?
Many thanks
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do a download speed test as i found on t-mobile the icon does not change to "H" with the t-mobile official roms it just shows 3G
Tried all the speed tests. Can't remember the exact results but at the time I was comparing it to the same sim card in my Orbit which is GPRS only and the speeds were about the same.
I'm not even seeing a 3G though, just the G
Ever thought that maybe that area doesn't have HSDPA coverage yet?
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I've definitly got it in my area so my next step was to try a different radio.
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As I said
DannyBoy said:
Tried all the speed tests. Can't remember the exact results but at the time I was comparing it to the same sim card in my Orbit which is GPRS only and the speeds were about the same.
I'm not even seeing a 3G though, just the G
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Stupid question I'm sure, but ur SIM is 3G enabled isn't it? When I upgraded an old vodafone account to support 3G, they had to send me a new SIM that was enabled for the service.
And my bosses British Telecom SIM card in my Ameo only showed GPRS until they enabled 3G on the account/sim, at which point it then started showing 3G.
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Stupid question I'm sure, but ur SIM is 3G enabled isn't it? When I upgraded an old vodafone account to support 3G, they had to send me a new SIM that was enabled for the service.
And my bosses British Telecom SIM card in my Ameo only showed GPRS until they enabled 3G on the account/sim, at which point it then started showing 3G.
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my o2 sim's are not 3g sims
Think you could well have it there mate.
I've just tried 1.45 and 1.47 radio's with the same results (just the G showing)
Will geton to O2 tommorrow
O2 are useless when it comes to data, last I checked they did not yet have HSDPA, and had a different pricing structure for data over GPRS and 3G, over GPRS you could buy a data bundle, but over 3G the best you could do was add a £5 add on that gave 4MB, after that it was a £3 per MB charge! imagine paying £2400 to download a Divx movie, you could go and buy the movie in Hi-def plus a Hi-def player plus a Hi-def TV to watch it on for that sort of money!
anyway bringing my post on topic
1) It is true you need a 3G sim (uSim) aswell as a 3G phone
2) It is possible that your area has 3G coverage but not HSDPA
3) Check the cost of "3G data" on your package before you go wild
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O2 are useless when it comes to data, last I checked they did not yet have HSDPA, and had a different pricing structure for data over GPRS and 3G, over GPRS you could buy a data bundle, but over 3G the best you could do was add a £5 add on that gave 4MB, after that it was a £3 per MB charge! imagine paying £2400 to download a Divx movie, you could go and buy the movie in Hi-def plus a Hi-def player plus a Hi-def TV to watch it on for that sort of money!
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Not my experience. I have HSDPA on O2 without a problem on my 7500 and laptop (using the O2 USB modem), so long as there is a 3g signal it usually gets an HSDPA download. The 3g symbol will change to an H.
I am using the standard HTC WM6 ROM with Radio 1.5
I have the O2 Web Max tarrif, so I have unlimited data.
I used to disable 3g on my Exec by going into the Phone Settings and setting the Band settings to GSM only instead of Auto (WM6 on the Exec was very poor at swtiching between the 2) - have you looked at that ?
Clearly if you don't have a 3g SIM that will be a problem too.
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Not my experience. I have HSDPA on O2 without a problem on my 7500 and laptop (using the O2 USB modem), so long as there is a 3g signal it usually gets an HSDPA download. The 3g symbol will change to an H.
I am using the standard HTC WM6 ROM with Radio 1.5
I have the O2 Web Max tarrif, so I have unlimited data.
I used to disable 3g on my Exec by going into the Phone Settings and setting the Band settings to GSM only instead of Auto (WM6 on the Exec was very poor at swtiching between the 2) - have you looked at that ?
Clearly if you don't have a 3g SIM that will be a problem too.
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as a business customer maybe, but try adding web max to a voice tariff so you can have 1 sim does all (like T-mobile do) I think you will find that O2 don't support it !
I pay £37.50 PM for 900 Xnet Anytime mins and unlimited HSDPA data ! what are you getting ?
Well, the first person I spoke to at O2 they told me it has nothing to do with the sim card, he said it was because the HTC advantage is not surpported on the O2 network.
I politely asked to speak to someone who has an ounce of common sense. To which he said he was a manger and he knew more than most :lol:
I re-called and the next person I spoke to agreed its probably the sim and I'll need to go into a store and get a new sim card.
Off I popped to the nearest store, but the poor bloke serving had never even heard of HSDPA, let alone what it was.
I asked him if I could possibly try one of their sims in my phone to see if I can get HSDPA and he agreed to let me try his. Before he opened his phone I noticed an H on his screen so I told him what the H stood for.
Anyway sure enough it worked but when he tried registering a new sim to my number their computer system said no
He gave a me number to call to get a new sim sent to me but as expected it took me another two attepts until I found someone who had the slightest idea what I was talking about.
Finally £14.99 and 5 hours later the new sim should be in the post.
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Well, the first person I spoke to at O2 they told me it has nothing to do with the sim card, he said it was because the HTC advantage is not surpported on the O2 network.
I politely asked to speak to someone who has an ounce of common sense. To which he said he was a manger and he knew more than most :lol:
I re-called and the next person I spoke to agreed its probably the sim and I'll need to go into a store and get a new sim card.
Off I popped to the nearest store, but the poor bloke serving had never even heard of HSDPA, let alone what it was.
I asked him if I could possibly try one of their sims in my phone to see if I can get HSDPA and he agreed to let me try his. Before he opened his phone I noticed an H on his screen so I told him what the H stood for.
Anyway sure enough it worked but when he tried registering a new sim to my number their computer system said no
He gave a me number to call to get a new sim sent to me but as expected it took me another two attepts until I found someone who had the slightest idea what I was talking about.
Finally £14.99 and 5 hours later the new sim should be in the post.
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you should have said 3.5G it's laymans term for hsdpa and oiks in phone shops understand it.
New sim arrived today and I'm up and running on 3G/HSDPA
The only odd thing is it seems to be constantly be switching between 3G and H.
90% of the time it says 3G then if you hit a link when browsing it'll switch to H. As the new page is loading though it'll swich from 3G to H two or 3 times.
Does this sound normal to you?
Glad it turned out to be something fairly simple (once you actually found someone with an ounce of sense). Mine flicks between 3G and HSDPA fairly regularly - it tends to say HSDPA until a data connection is established, at which point it drops back to 3G
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Glad it turned out to be something fairly simple (once you actually found someone with an ounce of sense). Mine flicks between 3G and HSDPA fairly regularly - it tends to say HSDPA until a data connection is established, at which point it drops back to 3G
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It shouldn't say 'H' until you're connecting or downloading. As soon as you start receiving data it will switch to 'H', although sometimes my 3G would mysteriously switch off entirely in my office (on my Hermes AND Ameo) and I'd be stuck with GPRS until I restarted or waited for about 15 minutes. Strange.
Hey guys, i was wondering if someone knows something about this and what would be wrong with it.
I'm not receiving any 2g or 3g, only G or H. Though H very very few times. While friends of me receive 3g while im at the same place as them.
I have a T-mobile g2 touch, rooted to modaco with the newest radio rom. I had the same problems with standard rom and 2.73 t-mobile UK roms.
I live in holland which has decent 3g network i guess....
I just wanted to know if someone encountered the same problems or have any intel on this, before i unroot and go to t-mobile store.
thnx in advance!
edit: oh and yes, i have web n walk obviously if you wonder
wups, posted in wrong forum! my bad!
I also get more HSDPA and GPRS/GSM than 3G.
Only few times I had 3G in some Citiys.
Never saw Edge... (a friend has a lot of it)
Switzerland, Orange
Never actually saw my 3g pop up, i spend alot of my time in the major cities actually too. =((
You won't "see" 2G, because G means GPRS which is 2G. If your networks provided 2.5G, you may see EDGE, "E", but most European networks never bothered to implement it because they'd already gone 3G and there saw no need for EDGE. As far as I'm aware, O2 in the UK hastily added EDGE to their network purely to support the original iPhone.
Obviously, when it comes to the icons, "H" (HSDPA) is superior to "3G" (standard UMTS) so I'd only really be concerned if you're getting "G" when everyone around you on the same network is getting "3G" or better.
Regards,
Dave
Which is my case, but what could cause this? t-mobile forgot to turn it on on my subscription or something? lol
hi!
i am using a tmous hd2 with the stock 2.13 rom and the recently released 2.15 radio. up till now i havent really bothered using packet data on my phone because i am a wifi guy... only recently did i start using packet data frequently...
i noticed two things out of place:
1) for some reason i have never seen hspa service on my phone. my operator runs a 3.6mbps dl 2mbps ul hspa services. whenever i switch to 3g and connect data, i always get a 3G written over the signal bars. and i have never seen speeds over 42kB/s (~384kbps) in several months of use. i have full signal strength in both 3g and 2g. if i am running 2g, then i get an E as expected over the signal bars. i have put in all the access point settings as defined by my operator (which are common for both 2g and 3g). i have enabled hsdpa/hsupa from winmo settings->connections->advanced n/w. is something amiss with the hspa settings on the phone? i really want to confirm that i have my phone set up right before i muster the courage to call up customer care.
(for someone from bombay, india, i am running mtnl 3g prepaid with following settings:- ap:gprsppsmum u:mtnl pass:mtnl123. this in itself is quite baffling because mtnl delhi has separate aps for 2g and 3g whereas the bombay network has the same ap for both. ap=access point)
2) i have never seen the H/3G/E/G icons on my taskbar. i mean the ones that are NEXT TO the signal strength icons. the space between the headset and the signal strength is always empty. isnt that particular icon supposed to show 'availibility' of the respective type of data connection? i read somewhere a long time ago that the icons are ROM dependent. but i am pretty sure i have seen snapshots of tmous phones with those icons...
i have been using bsnl cellone 3g since feb and i always got H in south india, even while roaming,...in few cities up north, like lucknow, i got only 3g icon displayed..i guess it should be H in mumbai..
from what you say, i think you have not enabled HSDPA/HSPA setting in the phone...do that..it is in settings/menu/all settings/connection manager or ?phone / advanced network ( i think...can't tell exactly where...iam presently on the android side...)
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i have been using bsnl cellone 3g since feb and i always got H in south india, even while roaming,...in few cities up north, like lucknow, i got only 3g icon displayed..i guess it should be H in mumbai..
from what you say, i think you have not enabled HSDPA/HSPA setting in the phone...do that..it is in settings/menu/all settings/connection manager or ?phone / advanced network ( i think...can't tell exactly where...iam presently on the android side...)
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no, i have enabled hspa (both directions) from advanced network. i said that in my original post as well. what windows rom were you running? also did you just get H speeds or see the H icon as well?
both H icon and speeds on 1.48 wwe and 3.14 wwe roms
Hi I use an unlocked TMOUS HD2 here in Italy with the italian carrier PosteMobile and experience the same problem of silenced3 (almost the same as I still haven't tried a cellular data connection): My phone doesn't show the kind of cellular signal available, only when it data connection is activated it says what type of connection it's using. Anyone knows how to solve this?
Thank you for your help...
i noticed 2 days ago my i777 showed h for a sec then 3g and was gone i tryed to google for this and found no info
this morning i wake up power on my cell and sit it on the table next to me while online and notice again its showing 3g h then 3g holding the 3g i browse and it goes from h back to 3g i did a speed test to verify this and i get 4.1mb on 1st try
so is tmobile now rolling out for a new band cause i thought tmobile could not get anything bu e edge for our i777
if any one needs info let me know
however i have noticed that if i pick up the phone is almost always goes back to e edge seems like it must have a full bars of e edge before it snaps over to h then 3g so i really want to know whats going on and if so how to maybe keep the 3g and h cause it really seems sensative when i pick it up and hold it i get almost full e edge and the 3g h goes away
im using aokp
set rom controls to hspda andhuspa or whatever it is
sitting on 3g for about 15 mins now pretty excited ths would have been good a week ago while trying to download google drive and do some mapquesting that got me lost for 40 mins due to slow internet while driving
i was shocked so i took a video and a pic of the phone
i know this may be due just to the area i live in but still this is cool as far as i knew only the galaxy note could have its modem changed software to get on tmobile 3g i thought us i777 users were destined to get e forever i know tmobile was going to get a band back in oct last year and all this junk with att and then somthing about rogers getting it idk whats what i know tmobile is upgrading the whole reason they changed the modem in thier t989 and 3 weeks ago my net cut off totally for the day had major issues and tmobile was no help so i wonder if this is a indicator that before long we all will have 3g ? on i777 if so yet another reason to get my i777
T-Mobile is rolling out HSPA on the 1900MHz (PCS) band in some markets.
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T-Mobile is rolling out HSPA on the 1900MHz (PCS) band in some markets.
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sounds great
but.... i can only get 3g or h
when the phone is setting on the coffe table near window undisturbed lol
i go stand out side and still no 3g or h even after 5 min
i sit it on the curb lol and i get 3g but sometimes back to e
and in side the coffe table wins with 3g and h consistantly taking up to 5 mins to switch back from edge once sit down tho ...
lol thanks alot tmobile the i777 modem and antenna are not weak are they
aokp
siyah kernal
nothing modded from stock or changed tho not using dualboot either
uckh7
can u suggest a better more battery draining modem to try i do not care of batt life if it will be good enough to stop losing the 3g h when i pick it up off the table or direct me to the post with the locator i cant find it again was a link to g maps with search for areas and comments on best modems for areas
OR DO YOU THINK MAYBE IT IS WHAT IT IS I NEED TO WAIT FOR BETTER SERVICE BEFORE THINKING I CAN MAKE IT BETTER ON MY SIDE MAYBE ITS JUST TMOBILES SIDE AND THEY SOMHOW NEED TO REFINE THIER CATCHING OR WHATEVER YOU WOULD CALL IT
Usually cell carriers don't light up a new service on every tower in an area simultaneously while they're still rolling it out. That's reserved for the big public unveiling. Eventually the gaps will fill in. It's also possible your local geography is making 1900mhz reception worse than 850/900, but again, it's more likely it's not on every tower around you yet.
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but.... i can only get 3g or h
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lol thanks alot tmobile the i777 modem and antenna are not weak are they
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can u suggest a better more battery draining modem to try i do not care of batt life if it will be good enough to stop losing the 3g h when i pick it up off the table or direct me to the post with the locator i cant find it again was a link to g maps with search for areas and comments on best modems for areas
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That's what HSPA is (idles in UMTS, aka 3G).
As stated, coverage is spotty because it's just being rolled out. It will become stronger over time. I suppose you could find a way to lock it to Edge if you want (easily accomplished on AOSP roms).
As for modems, it'll drain less if locked to Edge since your HSPA signal strength isn't good. You'll have to look at the map in the modem thread for suggestions. It's mostly different for everyone.