BlueAnt X5 A2DP Stereo Headphones - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Accessories
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I haven't found anyone else that would admit to trying these headphones with my phone (Dopod 838 Pro).
The headphones themselves are pretty cool. They fit pretty well, don't look toooo dorky, and the buttons click nicely etc. I haven't had them go flat on me yet. They could have come with a protective case though, and you have to take the microphone off to charge them, and I'm always afraid I will lose it.
When I first got them, they sounded crap. AM radio crap. I updated them to the latest firmware from the BlueAnt website (what a drama).
Tested, and they worked ok with the dongle - not exactly hifi sound, but the quality was ok to listen to.
Next I called BlueAnt HQ here in Australia, and after getting put through to a tech support guy he told me "They should work fine, I tried them with an iMate JasJam - no problems. Do a reset and try re-pairing them" (Duh).
Then I called the Dopod support line in Australia. During business hours. It goes through to an answering machine that doesn't even have an introduction message. Left a message. No reply.
Just as I was about to return them, I found the A2DP software tweak/patch on the wiki. First let me just say:
AAARRRGHHHH! What they hell are Microsoft thinking? Why have a registry setting \HKLM\StereoMusic\MakeMyMusicSoundLikeCrap=1 setting in the first place, and THEN why ship all phones with that enabled as the default? How many people have returned perfectly functioning Bluetooth headsets because of that? STUPID. I reckon Microsoft/HTC owe BlueAnt (and others) a truck load of money.
Secondly, that helps. Music is now stereo. I've been using them every day for a few weeks now. The bad news:
1) The quality is still very poor. There is a metallic hissing/sizzling/sibilance sound, especially noticeable on female vocals, which sounds (to me) exactly like a poor bitrate encoding error. The quality is much worse than when I pair it to the dongle it came with. I suspect it is the phone (or the MS BT stack) at fault not the headset. I would really like to be able to fix this.
2) With Wifi enabled, the music cuts out every few seconds. Unlistenable.
3) With Wifi disabled, I get the occasional glitch. I can live with that (if I must)
4) Using the headset profile during a phonecall, the sound I hear isn't too bad (a little muffled) but people tell me I sound really distant and hard to hear.
5) The AVRCP support is dodgy. Most of the time it works. Often when I first hit Play, it plays for a few seconds and then stops. I have to hit Play/Pause again and it starts. Track seek and volume up/down seem to work well. Answering a phone seemed hit and miss at first, but seems to mostly be working now. Not sure if this is the phone or the headset.
The iMate JasJam listed in the compatitabilty section of the BlueAnt website, but the Dopod 838 Pro is not. I emailed BlueAnt with my findings, and suggested they add the A2DP hack to their FAQ for other users. Hasn't appeared yet.
So, my questions:
1) Has anyone tried these headphones on a Hermes device? Does your experience mirror mine? Or is one of my devices faulty? Is the voice quality on the headset profile ok?
2) Is there a Widcomm (?) stack that works on the Hermes that may fix the problem, or...is it likely to be any better with WM6?
3) Does anyone have an A2DP headset of any brand working on a Hermes with "Crystal clear CD quality sound" like it says on the box the headphones came in. If so, what brand? If it is possible to get a good sound out of the MS BT stack, it might be worth pushing BlueAnt to release a new firmware to fix the issues.
4) Would a Bluetooth 2.0 headset give a better result? (Is it a bandwidth issue?)
Any replies would be helpful.
Thanks guys,
Zilch.
Yep I have an X5 unit connected to my Imate Jasjam and have not updated the firmware.
Yes it did skip when I first tried it but after a bit of experimenting, discovered turning off WiFi fixed it.
Yes it was mono till I did the reg hack to make it stereo.
No I don't get any hiss and think the quality is great (I know this is subjective but I tested female vocals as you suggested and they were great -Croncrete Blond, Eurythmics, Dyvinals, and even Chris Issac)
You may want to go here http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/default.aspx to realise the complications/dificulties the Ms WM guys are up against. I am sure they had a good reason to set the default to mono (maybe some devices didn't work at all with it set to stereo)
I would have to suggest there are other issues with your setup that are compromising the playback quality. I honsetly am impressed.
I don't use it as a phone headset as I use the X3 model to connect to two phones (I like Blue Ant stuff), so I can't comment on the mic quality.
When you consider that most people are having a nightmare with their stereo headsets (read the Widicom thread, if you have a lifetime to spare), then I am totally impressed with Blue Ant.
Sorry to have to disagree with you.
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Yep I have an X5 unit connected to my Imate Jasjam and have not updated the firmware.
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Thanks for the reply!
Yes it did skip when I first tried it but after a bit of experimenting, discovered turning off WiFi fixed it.
Yes it was mono till I did the reg hack to make it stereo.
No I don't get any hiss and think the quality is great (I know this is subjective but I tested female vocals as you suggested and they were great -Croncrete Blond, Eurythmics, Dyvinals, and even Chris Issac)
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Hmm...ok. Are you saying that the quality from your JasJam is the same as if you used the supplied Bluetooth Dongle that comes with the X5? (That's my goal currently)
If so, maybe there is some sort of configuration difference between the JasJam and the Dopod. (The JasJam is on the compatibility list, and the support guy did say he had used it ok)
I'm not just being an anal hifi buff here. The sound quality is obviously poor, and quite noticeable. You probably don't have it, but if you listen to the track 'Lithum' by 'Evanescense' it makes you cringe when the vocals come in (the piano sounds relatively normal. It's noticable in all tracks, but specifically in tracks like that.
Did you use this utility to tweak the A2DP sound settings? Or edit the registry manually (if so, can you tell me what settings you used?)
You may want to go here http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/default.aspx to realise the complications/dificulties the Ms WM guys are up against. I am sure they had a good reason to set the default to mono (maybe some devices didn't work at all with it set to stereo)
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I don't really accept that as a valid reason. Sure they have problems. The least they could do is make a user tweakable UI to change that setting. It's not acceptable to have a protocol designed for stereo music set to mono and no way for a user to change it.
I would have to suggest there are other issues with your setup that are compromising the playback quality. I honsetly am impressed.
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Ok, good to know. I haven't given up yet!
Sorry to have to disagree with you.
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Not at all! Thanks again for the reply.
Edit: If you get a chance, can you do me a favour and check if yours is the H1 or the H4 model? (First two digits of the serial number, under the battery of the left headphone).
Zilch.
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Yep I have an X5 unit connected to my Imate Jasjam and have not updated the firmware.
You may want to go here http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/default.aspx to realise the complications/dificulties the Ms WM guys are up against. I am sure they had a good reason to set the default to mono (maybe some devices didn't work at all with it set to stereo).
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Ehh... they could pay up and get a proper BT-stack from Widcomm....
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Thanks for the reply!
Hmm...ok. Are you saying that the quality from your JasJam is the same as if you used the supplied Bluetooth Dongle that comes with the X5? (That's my goal currently)
If so, maybe there is some sort of configuration difference between the JasJam and the Dopod. (The JasJam is on the compatibility list, and the support guy did say he had used it ok)
I'm not just being an anal hifi buff here. The sound quality is obviously poor, and quite noticeable. You probably don't have it, but if you listen to the track 'Lithum' by 'Evanescense' it makes you cringe when the vocals come in (the piano sounds relatively normal. It's noticable in all tracks, but specifically in tracks like that.
Did you use this utility to tweak the A2DP sound settings? Or edit the registry manually (if so, can you tell me what settings you used?)
I don't really accept that as a valid reason. Sure they have problems. The least they could do is make a user tweakable UI to change that setting. It's not acceptable to have a protocol designed for stereo music set to mono and no way for a user to change it.
Ok, good to know. I haven't given up yet!
Not at all! Thanks again for the reply.
Edit: If you get a chance, can you do me a favour and check if yours is the H1 or the H4 model? (First two digits of the serial number, under the battery of the left headphone).
Zilch.
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I haven't used the dongle for a long time but when I did it was thru my HiFi playing CDs not MP3 so there may have been a difference in quality but never bothered to compare as I never had a problem with the playback quality from my Imate.
I did a manual reg fix using the wiki recommendations of 48 and 0.
I have model H1.
You may be right that the Imate is configured a little differently but I also run it very clean.
I have so few problems compared to what I read that I feel embarressed that I'm so lucky. As an IT consultant I just luv it as my work phone - I use VPN, Terminal Services, WiFi, Push Email, internet access, etc... and it's a phone! Constantly impressed.
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Can't believe the way people on this forum butcher their devices and end up with something that is full of broken things... oh but I'm sooooo cool because I have WMXL .20.1 with radio rom 6.47.803 - don't care that nothing works anymore. Juss wanna be soooo cool.
esseff said:
I did a manual reg fix using the wiki recommendations of 48 and 0.
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Did you set a bitrate?
I have model H1.
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I wonder if this is the difference. Mine is an H4 version.
You may be right that the Imate is configured a little differently but I also run it very clean.
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Just for the record, I got the headphones a few days after I got the phone. The only thing I had done was put my SIM card in, copy a few MP3s and change the default theme (since the Dopod one is grey).
There were no mods/hacks/cooked ROMS/tweaks etc. Just the ROM it came with which is also the latest version on the Dopod website. My phone is supplied to me by work, so I need it to be as reliable as possible - I can't afford to mess around with it. (Which is one of the reasons I resent having to edit the registry to get some stereo headphones to play in stereo)
Note: Today I have a few apps installed. An RSS reader, train timetable, TomTom etc. Only hack is the registry change for A2DP, and a util which sets the soft input to Block Recognition mode on startup. None of these seem to have affected the quality of the A2DP stream in any way though.
Unless I can try my headphones with someone's JasJam, or another Dopod I'm not sure I'm going to be able to narrow down the issue. I think it has to be a difference in the X4 hardware/firmware or an issue with the Dopod ROM (compared to the JasJam one)
I have so few problems compared to what I read that I feel embarressed that I'm so lucky. As an IT consultant I just luv it as my work phone - I use VPN, Terminal Services, WiFi, Push Email, internet access, etc... and it's a phone! Constantly impressed.
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I have it as a work phone too - and work in IT. I haven't had any issues with it except Windows Media Player losing the tracks on the storage card, and the device locking up from time to time (this is always when I am not using it - it is turned off and does not turn back on). Overall it's a great phone!
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Can't believe the way people on this forum butcher their devices and end up with something that is full of broken things... oh but I'm sooooo cool because I have WMXL .20.1 with radio rom 6.47.803 - don't care that nothing works anymore. Juss wanna be soooo cool.
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Dude. You are hanging around the xda-developers forum. Each to their own. Tweaking is fun for these guys. It's like mechanics cars. You and I are in a different position as our phones are a work tools and have to be reliable. I'm more than happy to benefit from people experiences hacking theirs though
Zilch.
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I don't use it as a phone headset as I use the X3 model to connect to two phones (I like Blue Ant stuff), so I can't comment on the mic quality.
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I was actually considering getting an X3 as well (they look cool), but I will wait until I have worked out the issues with my X5.
Just thinking about this. How does it work? You are bopping along to your perfect A2DP sound, and you somehow hear the phone ringing, so you take off the stereo headphones, get your X3 out of your pocket, insert it in your ear, and answer the phone!?
Zilch.
Zilch said:
I was actually considering getting an X3 as well (they look cool), but I will wait until I have worked out the issues with my X5.
Just thinking about this. How does it work? You are bopping along to your perfect A2DP sound, and you somehow hear the phone ringing, so you take off the stereo headphones, get your X3 out of your pocket, insert it in your ear, and answer the phone!?
Zilch.
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Don't use X5 at work, but when I'm relaxing at the beach or around the pool. Use X3 connected to my Imate and my private phone at work. AT the time it was the only headset that would connect to more than one device and works great.
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Dude. You are hanging around the xda-developers forum. Each to their own. Tweaking is fun for these guys. It's like mechanics cars. You and I are in a different position as our phones are a work tools and have to be reliable. I'm more than happy to benefit from people experiences hacking theirs though
Zilch.
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... but i shake my head in disbelief when I read some of the things ppl do.
Kupur was applauding an admitted newbie who, after 1 hr of owning his device decided it wasn't right and flashed it with some cooked rom, upgraded the radio, and SIM/CID unlocked it!!
How can this guy have any point of referance? How can he know he has made an improvement if he never bothered to use it properly in it's std state? And he will no doubt curse and abuse Ms and HTC for producing crap hardware and software.
As you say each to their own but it's hard for me to understand some ppls mentality.
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... but i shake my head in disbelief when I read some of the things ppl do.
Kupur was applauding an admitted newbie who, after 1 hr of owning his device decided it wasn't right and flashed it with some cooked rom, upgraded the radio, and SIM/CID unlocked it!!
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If I was tempted to do that, right after getting it is probably when I would do it. Reloading all your stuff sucks. Plus if he needed it SIM unlocked to use it that could be why.
Plus, what a better way to learn than bricking a $900 brand new phone?
Zilch.
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So, my questions:
1) Has anyone tried these headphones on a Hermes device? Does your experience mirror mine? Or is one of my devices faulty? Is the voice quality on the headset profile ok?
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3) Does anyone have an A2DP headset of any brand working on a Hermes with "Crystal clear CD quality sound" like it says on the box the headphones came in. If so, what brand? If it is possible to get a good sound out of the MS BT stack, it might be worth pushing BlueAnt to release a new firmware to fix the issues.
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To answer my own question in case anyone else is having this issue...it's all fixed with the official WM6 ROM. Works perfectly. (Except for the dropouts when WiFi is enabled)
yeah I have them and have had for quite some time now ... first used them with my Eten G00 then the G500+, then I changed phones to a nokia n73 and things didn't seem so good. anymore I lost the remote functions and even though I like the new phone I missed some things like nav and others so i went back tot he g00+. I have now updated to the HTC Tytn II I think sim to your hermes ....
I find nothing wrong the x5 controls a re great and quality is exceptable... I have no issues with Wifi.. I have the updated firmeware on my x5 and the stock firmware on my tytn II..
I also have a hs850 paired to the device the only thing I deslike on the hole issue is that everytime I use the x6 I have to fiddle around getting them to resume the pairing.
where as my hs-850 I just turn on blue tooth and turn on the headset... and off we go...
I have the x5 set as default headset and default stereo headset... the hs850 is just another device listed and pairs up soon as its turned on.
Can someone post me the headset firmware and how to use it?
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Can someone post me the headset firmware and how to use it?
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I got it from blueant.com I think. (Was some time ago). It was updating the phone that fixed the issues though.
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I got it from blueant.com I think. (Was some time ago). It was updating the phone that fixed the issues though.
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I can't seem to find it. can you upload it somewhere? Or give me a link?
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Headphones...
Hi all! I'm new here after I searched desperately the web for good and useful info on my device. Since I am located in Germany, I got the T-Mobile MDA Vario and I just love it. I admit I don't use to many of its functions but I use it as contacts-backup, mini-TV and MP3-Player with an 1GB miniSD and the Headset that came with it and I started to be sorry for the iPod-owners who have to get their phone out and earphones out in order to make or receive calls. Unfortunately, its not that convenient yet because my voice dial wont work with the headset-button and I neither can't receive calls by pressing it... I only can adjust the volume. So, is there something like a bug or software I needed to have? However, I'm about to upgrade for Bluetooth anyway (maybe for Christmas ). I wonder whether e.g. the Motorola HT820 works. Since I'm not to much into this, I can't quite figure out this A2DP-Stuff... So: is the MDA Vario working with these devices or not? Thanks a lot!
also new (very new) im in pretty much the same boat, but there is a bit of info about this stuff on here. the headset you mentioned seems to be a popular one so I would assume that it works. As for the A2DP stuff I dont know anything beyond what Ive read, but its seems that if you want higher quality sound and stereo then you gotta get a2dp, but at the cost of significantly shorter battery life. for the most part people will be hesitant to respond to a post on a topic that has been covered before, use the search feature. start here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=256257
I have Motorola HT820s and i'm very satisfied with them. the quality of the sound is good and the voice calls are great. i have though Faria's 3.2 ROM on the wizard. you can try to get HBH-DS970 from sony ericsson those are great BT heads too, but unfortunately they are not available yet in Romania.
Pioneer DEH-P9800BT CD Receiver with Bluetooth
I have the thing basically working. I am also getting a Vox 710s to try as well. My primary concern at this point is auto connect. I am a consultant and get in an out of the car a lot. So it is pointless if I have to click the stereo 6 times each time I get in. I need the thing to just work. I may return the deck if I can't get it too work. So I need to find out where the failure is. Then I can pursue it with the manufacturer. Why can't this stuff just work? So if I find a bluetooth headset that does auto connect to the phone do you think that is enough I can't got to pioneer and say the problem is your deck? If the head set doesn't auto connect which I find hard to believe then I can work with jetware or cingular to see what is up. I am guessing it is the deck. Thoughts
opps phone is a cingular 8125 up to date roms running the latest Jetware.
another poster on crutchfeild says tmobile dash does autoconnect does this narrow down the cause?
I spent over a month working with Pioneer and Jetware with an AVIC Z2 GPS unit with Pioneer's ND-BT1 adapter. In the end, I had to pull the Z2 and installed a Kenwood. Pioneer tech Support finally admitted that they suffer problems with nearly all PDA type phones, especially when they 'sleep'. Seems the connection is dropped nearly as fast as it is made and the devices won't stay connected. Mine dropped EVERY call when the backlight went out after 60 seconds of non-pda use. If i set time timer up to 5 minutes, it dropped the call when the PDA went to sleep. Leaving the PDA on all of the time of course drained the battery. My wife now has the HTC Touch in her car with the AVIC Z2 and the ND-BT1, however, the problem isn't there. Pioneer has come out with a 'Service' upgrade program for the Z2 and the Touch uses a newer WM6 version. The two seem to be compatible.
thanks for the insight Having just read the mk6000 review I don't feel so bad. I was wondering how well as system between your speakers and you deck would work. That said I ordered an unlocked 710 (vox) to test out with wm6 and bt 2. I am hoping this will work. Do you think I will still need Jetware?
xophere said: Having just read the mk6000 review I don't feel so bad. I was wondering how well as system between your speakers and you deck would work. That said I ordered an unlocked 710 (vox) to test out with wm6 and bt 2. I am hoping this will work. Do you think I will still need Jetware? Click to expand... Click to collapse Try it first without Jetware. It is now with at 30 day free trial and limited features but good enough to test once you get your new unit. If you find out that you need it, then register it.
I have had a Pioneer DEH-P9800BT for many months now, and I am getting sick of having to click 6 times to connect the phone. You would think that the stupid thing could perform the same thing when you turned on the car/stereo. I wish I could get a firmware update or something to fix it.
Replace your Pioneer with the one of the Sonys (MEX-5000BT if you need preouts, MEX-2500BT if you don't). I've been using the 5000 since January -- once I did the initial pairing, it connects every time both in handsfree & A2DP.
Internal speaker works with sip!
Yay! I hadn't checked it out in a while and I have found that with both Agephone and Tivi my internal speaker works! It would be nice to eventually get the embedded Windows one to work, because it's a little more seamless but this is still pretty cool! However, I have a problem, I register internally with my asterisk PBX, can call both ways, but when I speak into my Titan, my desk phone can't hear anything. However talking into my desk phone works no problem I can hear them pretty good though the internal phone speaker Anyone know why I can't speak through mine though? Is it because they are trial versions? If so I'll buy it for sure, but I am positive it is not my own network or phone setup causing this...
That's great news!. Did anyone tried Microsoft VOIP for WM6.1? I can not get it working...
vbundi said: Yay! I hadn't checked it out in a while and I have found that with both Agephone and Tivi my internal speaker works! It would be nice to eventually get the embedded Windows one to work, because it's a little more seamless but this is still pretty cool! However, I have a problem, I register internally with my asterisk PBX, can call both ways, but when I speak into my Titan, my desk phone can't hear anything. However talking into my desk phone works no problem I can hear them pretty good though the internal phone speaker Anyone know why I can't speak through mine though? Is it because they are trial versions? If so I'll buy it for sure, but I am positive it is not my own network or phone setup causing this... Click to expand... Click to collapse I believe there is a registry setting that has to be set to make sound go both ways. I know there is information in these forums about it, but don't know where offhand. Might have something to do with unblocking port 5060 on the phone. I'm pretty sure the HTC Universal threads have something about it in them. I gave up on using the SIP phone for 2 reasons. One, killed battery life using WiFi all the time. Two, was only using the secondary speakers instead of the main phone speaker. Also, the volume was really quiet which also made it rather useless. TS
Port 5060 is for Sip registration, audio does not travel over this port, but I know where you are comming from here... audio travels over RTP ports, and if those ports weren't available I wouldn't be able to hear sound either. The sound with the programs I mentioned is plenty loud to hear, I just cannot speak.... I am hoping it might be a restriction due to running them as trial software. WM6.1 and voip do not work for Titans and most HTC's last I had heard, this is because WM accesses audio devices differently than the way the HTC hardware is designed.
vbundi said: Port 5060 is for Sip registration, audio does not travel over this port, but I know where you are comming from here... audio travels over RTP ports, and if those ports weren't available I wouldn't be able to hear sound either. The sound with the programs I mentioned is plenty loud to hear, I just cannot speak.... I am hoping it might be a restriction due to running them as trial software. WM6.1 and voip do not work for Titans and most HTC's last I had heard, this is because WM accesses audio devices differently than the way the HTC hardware is designed. Click to expand... Click to collapse Check out the settings in the WM registry at HKLM\System\VoIP\SIP Try setting 1 for EnablePort5060 and OutgoingFailOn302. Not sure about RtcInitFlags. It's been quite a while since I used VoIP on my Universal, but I do know that playing with these settings had something to do with making it work. As for the HTC speaker, I was aware of the design "flaw". I don't see why someone can't determine where the phone.exe application talks to the main speaker and use the same hardware call to redirect other programs to play sounds through the same speaker. On the Uni, there was also a rtcdll.dll file that was used to make VoIP work better. Not sure if the same file will work on the Titan. TS
Bluetooth Remote Control for Android Media Player, etc
I'm looking for a Bluetooth remote to use in my car, to control my G1 when it's hooked up as a music player. This is both a safety and convenience concern. The starting point is finding a remote control that transmits Bluetooth directly to the G1 (i.e., not infrared or wired). It needs, at a minimum, a forward and a stop button. Reverse, pause, and other functions are nice, but not mandatory. The other half of the solution is software to control the media program in Android, which may or may not already exist; if not, I'll commission someone to write it. Maybe I can even offer a turnkey system for sale if there's enough interest. I know someone's will say "search the forums", and I did. What I found seemed to be focus on wired remotes for another HTC phone, or remote controlling your PC with your phone. But if I missed a relevant post, please do correct me. Ideas are greatly appreciated.
remote there is a remote for gaming used for the n95 i saw on a website it worked for android on a basic level. maybe that might help. in the development of this
Found this on another thread http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87Wc0KqnW2M that some people are using. Jabra BT3030 Aux cable from car stereo plugged into remote. Remote paired with phone. Not *completely wireless* but atleast you don't have to look at your phone. Does that get you anywhere?
juphro said: Found this on another thread http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87Wc0KqnW2M that some people are using. Jabra BT3030 Click to expand... Click to collapse Hmm, I posted a reply to this, but it isn't showing up. Maybe forgot to submit. Anyway, thanks for pointing this out. I had seen this a long time ago and forgot all about it. That's exactly the kind of thing I want. Here's the instruction manual, for anyone else who might be interested. It's about US$55. The only problem I see here is that it'll register as a headset and thereby disable the sound coming out of the extUSB connector in the car. pistol4413 said: there is a remote for gaming used for the n95 i saw on a website it worked for android on a basic level. maybe that might help. in the development of this Click to expand... Click to collapse It's the Zeemote JS1, and this blog has a video showing it interacting with a G1. This may ultimately be what I'd have to go with... it seems to be designed solely as a controller, without A2DP getting in the way. But looks like it needs some kind of interfacing software, at least on the Nokia. At US$20, I should just get one and play around with it. Cheaper than buying another car stereo with BT built in.
Dual Infrared + Bluetooth Remotes FWIW, I ran across two rare, interesting items. One is the RicaVision Vave 100 Universal Remote. Unfortunately, it's $349... but in theory, it would control both your car stereo (via infrared, which the majority of remotes use) and the G1 (via Bluetooth). It's able to "learn" commands from 24 infrared devices, and has a 2.4" 240x320 color LCD screen. No PC or internet connection is needed for configuration. The screenshots show artist/track info being received from Windows, so it's Media PC-oriented, but still a possibility -- assuming you could program it accordingly. If so, just carry it back and forth between home and car: use it inside for your TV and PC, outside for the car stereo and G1. The other device is the Ricavision SideShow Remote for the same price, also having IR + BT transmitters. This is purpose-built for Windows SideShow, and has fewer buttons -- volume, play/pause, prev/next, etc. It's smaller than the Vave, but still has a 2.5" QVGA screen. This is perfect for my car setup, but there doesn't seem to be a learning mode or any way to program, so the chances of it working are about zero. Boo!
try the jabra 3030 (dogtag) theyre about $15 on ebay
Apparently some people have had luck with this one: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.8422
trigeek said: Apparently some people have had luck with this one: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.8422 Click to expand... Click to collapse yep they're pretty good once you get a working one
trigeek said: Apparently some people have had luck with this one: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.8422 Click to expand... Click to collapse Thats what im running right now. works pretty good battery is def not what its said to be though.
Do0zman said: Thats what im running right now. works pretty good battery is def not what its said to be though. Click to expand... Click to collapse mabye you got a faulty one like i did because the first one i got had a 10 minuite battery life lol
trigeek said: Apparently some people have had luck with this one: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.8422 Click to expand... Click to collapse If that worked in my case it'd be perfect, and it's the smallest form factor yet. The only problem I foresee with this and the Jabra is that they'll want to subvert my wired headphone output over to A2DP. But for $13 I'll probably take a chance. JJbdoggg said: yep they're pretty good once you get a working one Click to expand... Click to collapse Yeah, buying directly from mainland China, you never know what you'll get -- and if it doesn't work, it's usually pointless return it. But I've bought stuff from DealExtreme before, and dirt cheap, too. Back when I had this flashlight habit....
[OT] Counterfeits JJbdoggg said: try the jabra 3030 (dogtag) theyre about $15 on ebay Click to expand... Click to collapse Well, I finally bought a Jabra from there. I'll play with it and report back on whether it'll work like I wanted above. Meanwhile, I didn't realize until looking more closely that most of them were fake. I've been burned by counterfeits before, and sure enough, there are a ton of them on fleaBay. I made this graphic to demonstrate: Aside from the logos, they look identical. Price is an obvious warning, but not always. Location is another: I'm wary of shipping from Hong Kong. OTOH, just because it says Jabra doesn't mean it's real... the Motorola H700 is another example where it's nearly impossible to tell them apart online. Unfortunately, even with VeRO and the rules against keyword spamming, this junk can be found all over eBay.
voxluna said: Well, I finally bought a Jabra from there. I'll play with it and report back on whether it'll work like I wanted above. Meanwhile, I didn't realize until looking more closely that most of them were fake. I've been burned by counterfeits before, and sure enough, there are a ton of them on fleaBay. I made this graphic to demonstrate: Aside from the logos, they look identical. Price is an obvious warning, but not always. Location is another: I'm wary of shipping from Hong Kong. OTOH, just because it says Jabra doesn't mean it's real... the Motorola H700 is another example where it's nearly impossible to tell them apart online. Unfortunately, even with VeRO and the rules against keyword spamming, this junk can be found all over eBay. Click to expand... Click to collapse I just got a pair of these and thanks to your illustration, I'm convinced mine are counterfeit works well with all my other phones but the G1.
dixon_coxon said: I just got a pair of these and thanks to your illustration, I'm convinced mine are counterfeit works well with all my other phones but the G1. Click to expand... Click to collapse In theory, if it's able to connect to one phone's A2DP, it should connect to any. But I wonder if it has something to do with the ROM you're running? I've noticed the G1 needs some finesse when connecting and pairing BT. Also, there are different steps you can take that all arrive at the same result (ergo, lots of trial and error). Anyway. Now that I have the Jabra, my next problem is keeping A2DP, HSP and AVRCP separate... more on that soon.
voxluna said: In theory, if it's able to connect to one phone's A2DP, it should connect to any. But I wonder if it has something to do with the ROM you're running? I've noticed the G1 needs some finesse when connecting and pairing BT. Also, there are different steps you can take that all arrive at the same result (ergo, lots of trial and error). Anyway. Now that I have the Jabra, my next problem is keeping A2DP, HSP and AVRCP separate... more on that soon. Click to expand... Click to collapse Here is whats interesting; I have tried the BT3030 with several ROMS and I get the same results (I even tried it on stock and then rooted). When paired placing and receiving calls work fine. The problem arises when you try to listen to music, the sound skips constantly and I haven't figured a way to fix this permanently. Do you experience this problem (skipping sound)?
dixon_coxon said: Here is whats interesting; I have tried the BT3030 with several ROMS and I get the same results (I even tried it on stock and then rooted). When paired placing and receiving calls work fine. The problem arises when you try to listen to music, the sound skips constantly and I haven't figured a way to fix this permanently. Do you experience this problem (skipping sound)? Click to expand... Click to collapse no skips from BT. see my configuration in my sig.
skesseks said: no skips from BT. see my configuration in my sig. Click to expand... Click to collapse Here is my config see attached. I have tested this with different ROMS ranging from tmobile CRB 43 stock to current xRom. I also have a motorola s9 which works with my G1 with no problems.
dixon_coxon said: I have tested this with different ROMS ranging from tmobile CRB 43 stock to current xRom. I also have a motorola s9 which works with my G1 with no problems. Click to expand... Click to collapse It's strange that it works with one phone and not another. But if it really is a counterfeit, all bets are off -- you may never figure it out.
dixon_coxon said: Here is whats interesting; I have tried the BT3030 with several ROMS and I get the same results (I even tried it on stock and then rooted). When paired placing and receiving calls work fine. The problem arises when you try to listen to music, the sound skips constantly and I haven't figured a way to fix this permanently. Do you experience this problem (skipping sound)? Click to expand... Click to collapse I got 3 knockoff bt3030s back in october (from dinodirect... shady) at $15/ea it was an ok price... I too have the skipping problems on my Droid, but I just discovered how to fix them. Go into bluetooth settings, long-press the jabra bt3030 device, select options, and deselect phone audio and reconnect the device. Now, no more skips. I don't know if it's the bt3030's fault, I think it might be an android bug where audio gets routed over phone audio instead of a2dp. This is evidenced by the skipping audio--headset audio only has something like 8khz of bandwidth. It kind of sucks that phone audio has to be disabled, but in all seriousness, I use the bt3030 for a2dp far more than phone calls, if I need to make a phone call over the bt3030, I'll reconnect the phone audio and disconnect it when I'm done.
Don't know if anyone still cares, but for the record, and for searchers, there are these options: http://www.scosche.com/products/sfID1/217/sfID2/341/productID/1937 http://www.scosche.com/products/sfID1/217/sfID2/219/productID/1938 Both of these are very expensive though as they are part of large packages for cars. YMMV.
Anyone using Plantronics 590 Headset?
If anyone is using one with a Hero, can you get Stereo? If so what ROM are you using and did you have to tweak anything? I've got mine connected and get Mono (Left channel) audio only, although all the buttons and call control functions work perfectly! I've tried tweaking the settings and enabling the headset only for Media and not phone calls to make sure thats not the problem with no luck.
My Plantronics 590a works in stereo on Modaco 3.0 without doing anything special. I know that isn't helpful but I just wanted you to know that it can work in stereo. Edit: Radio 63.18.55.06JU_6.35.08.29
Im not sure what the difference is between the 590 and 590A variants. Maybe mine are 590A though i'm not sure how to tell (Anyone Know?) Whats written on the sticker on your headphones? (If you don't mind looking) Mine says: Plantronics P590 FCCID: AL8-P590 IC: 457A-P590 Made in Mexico Date Code: A07-B SW:SB I can try the 3.0 ROM and the Radio you use.. So I will give those a go.. Hopefully one of those will fix it. Thanks for the Info
Turns out the Hero is not to blame here.. Somehow (I've used them maybe 3 times in the 1.5 years I've owned them) the right earpiece has gone faulty. So I think they would work.. but would now not reccomend buying them as they cant be that reliable (I store them in thier case and havent dropped them or anything like that) Thanks to the guy that replied.
My sticker is the same so we more than likely have the same headset. I would say the same about not recommending them. Not because they are not reliable but because the sound quality is horrible. At least they are in mine