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I have searched and tried to find this answer, but now I am more confused... So please be gentle with the flaming.
I have an unlocked Cingular 8525. I down graded to bootloader 1.04 using Cingular ROM 1.30.502.1 and SUCCESSFULLY made my device superCID according to the detail direction in the wiki. THANKS FOR THE INSTRUCTIONS!!!
My confusion comes with the fact that I want to have newest OEM ROM from Cingular, 1.34.502.1, but I also want to upgrade the radio version... But when I upgrade to the newer 1.34.502.1 ROM, I get bootloader 1.06... BUT I read that I need bootloader 1.04 to change the radioROM... But as far I read, I would have to go back down to the earlier 1.30.502.1 ROM.
QUESTION:
How do I keep bootloader 1.04 with upgrading back to ROM 1.34.502.1, so I can have the newer ROM and be able to upgrade my RadioROM also?
Thanks
Ron
lokmeup said:
I have searched and tried to find this answer, but now I am more confused... So please be gentle with the flaming.
I have an unlocked Cingular 8525. I down graded to bootloader 1.04 using Cingular ROM 1.30.502.1 and SUCCESSFULLY made my device superCID according to the detail direction in the wiki. THANKS FOR THE INSTRUCTIONS!!!
My confusion comes with the fact that I want to have newest OEM ROM from Cingular, 1.34.502.1, but I also want to upgrade the radio version... But when I upgrade to the newer 1.34.502.1 ROM, I get bootloader 1.06... BUT I read that I need bootloader 1.04 to change the radioROM... But as far I read, I would have to go back down to the earlier 1.30.502.1 ROM.
QUESTION:
How do I keep bootloader 1.04 with upgrading back to ROM 1.34.502.1, so I can have the newer ROM and be able to upgrade my RadioROM also?
Thanks
Ron
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Downgrade then install the 1.01MFG bootloader. After that extract the OS from the NBH of the ROM you want and flash it. You can then keep 1.01MFG bootloader or change it back to 1.04. Its all in the wiki.
jokinawa said:
Downgrade then install the 1.01MFG bootloader. After that extract the OS from the NBH of the ROM you want and flash it. You can then keep 1.01MFG bootloader or change it back to 1.04. Its all in the wiki.
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Ahhh... thanks for the push in the right direction!
Ron
Couldn't you just upgrade the Radio and the Extended Rom and still have the old boot loader?
Wouldn't this provide the same end result?
lokmeup said:
I have searched and tried to find this answer, but now I am more confused... So please be gentle with the flaming.
I have an unlocked Cingular 8525. I down graded to bootloader 1.04 using Cingular ROM 1.30.502.1 and SUCCESSFULLY made my device superCID according to the detail direction in the wiki. THANKS FOR THE INSTRUCTIONS!!!
My confusion comes with the fact that I want to have newest OEM ROM from Cingular, 1.34.502.1, but I also want to upgrade the radio version... But when I upgrade to the newer 1.34.502.1 ROM, I get bootloader 1.06... BUT I read that I need bootloader 1.04 to change the radioROM... But as far I read, I would have to go back down to the earlier 1.30.502.1 ROM.
QUESTION:
How do I keep bootloader 1.04 with upgrading back to ROM 1.34.502.1, so I can have the newer ROM and be able to upgrade my RadioROM also?
Thanks
Ron
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I had the EXACT same question...It turns out that you can upgrade the radio with the German version since your device is SuperCID. So I was able to upgrade to radio 1.27 with BL 1.06
..... and then....
I learned about the 1.01MFG wiki ... and I followed the instructions and was able to (first) flash 1.01MFG and (second) flash BL 1.04... so now I have 1.34 ROM, 1.27 Radio and 1.04 BL...
It took alot of reading and questions for me to figure it out....I hope my pain is your gain.
I read in wiki "Bootloader 1.06 and 1.09 do not have 'rtask' command, this means: you will not be able to do radio upgrade only on your Hermes, you will stay always with the Radio version contained on the ROM you flash"
Does that mean that my Tytn i can upgrade just all completed ROM?
I try to install just radio rom, i have error 114.
May i install a "RUU_Hermes_HTC_WWE_2.05.255.1_6275_1.34.00.10 _108 _Test.exe" ??? in my Tytn?
My IPL is 1.00 and SPL 1.06
Thnks.
Don't care about 1.06 or 1.09 of SPL, both can be down graded to 1.04. After that you can unlock CID and up any rom you want.
I don't know how to put the file in this mail but I can help you by sending it per email. Just give me your address.
Don't flash the entire new roms or you will be losing the ability to change your radio roms.
nugift said:
Don't care about 1.06 or 1.09 of SPL, both can be down graded to 1.04. After that you can unlock CID and up any rom you want.
I don't know how to put the file in this mail but I can help you by sending it per email. Just give me your address.
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[email protected]
Before i have bricked one wizard (wronlgy installed a chinese ROM from ftp), now im afraid to manipulate
dodadent said:
[email protected]
Before i have bricked one wizard (wronlgy installed a chinese ROM from ftp), now im afraid to manipulate
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We all have the same feeling if something went wrong. But there is no risk when you follow the user manual carefully. Please check your mail, I sent you already! Have fun!
nugift said:
We all have the same feeling if something went wrong. But there is no risk when you follow the user manual carefully. Please check your mail, I sent you already! Have fun!
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Thnks man, a lot.
Everything is going OK.
Thnk you very much again.
hi everyone
i have imate k-jam. could i download rom 6.5 from this site.is it g3 or g4.
ipl 1.01 spl 1.06 gpm 01.01.10
radio version:01.01.10
You can if you wish to have a brick....
The K-Jam ISN'T a Hermes as far as I know...
k-jam is a WIZARD, go to WIZARD rom development section. also for any type of queries, post ur queries in wizard rom development section.
ipl 1.01 spl 1.06 gpm 01.01.10
radio version:01.01.10
how can i upgrade to 6.5 please help me
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You can if you wish to have a brick....
The K-Jam ISN'T a Hermes as far as I know...
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what is brick how can i get it
rockonhell said:
what is brick how can i get it
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A brick=paperweight
just flash something that doesn't belong on the hermes (like wrong radio, or rom built for different device), and POOF! you have yourself a nice fancy brick!
Please dont flame me. I have done alot of reading ... so much so that I think I have confused myself. I dont need step by steps how to do it ... I just need to know if what I am reading is correct or not.
I installed the new ROM and here is my info.
ROM 2.06.502.3
Radio 1.16.00.00
IPL - 1.00
SPL - 1.09
From there I did the v3 SIM & CID Unlocker ... which I did before but did again because I was not sure if it would stick.
All I want to do is upgrade the radio ... I drop alot of calls and I am hoping that 1.27.00.00 helps.
To do this, would I need to run the program to take my BL v. to 1.01 MFG from 1.09, then upgrade to 1.04. Then I can install a new radio ROM? Or is there something else that is keeping me from doing it.
I am sorry and I promise not to ask anymore noob questions. I just want to make sure I fully understand.
Thanks guys.
Kangle
BTW, I think the new ROM version is great. My 8525 is running better than ever (faster) and battery life is WAY better than it was before. I strongly recommend it. Disable the startup animation though! It sucks and it messes up your volume.
bump
Please, anyone. I really appreciate it.
Well, I am by far no expert on this (and scared of bricking my device) ... so what I did was everything you described ... then I re-installed the new Cingular ROM ... thereby upgrading my radio to 1.33.31.00.
Had I foresight, I would have used the unlocker before upgrading to the new Cinguar ROM (so I would not have to install it twice)...live and learn.
I did not bother with the steps you described necessary to install the 1.27 radio ...figuring I could live with 1.33.31.00
sorry, I misread your post.
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You got radio 1.16 which has radiobl 107, so go ahead and grab a copy of the 1.27 radiorom and run the update.
I read that I need to have BL 1.04 to upgrade the radio.
I currently have BL 1.09. So the only way I can go back to 1.04 is by going to imei-check.co.uk and paying for it right?
Thanks,
Kangle
why do you want 1.27 instead of 1.33?
so, no one answered my prior question ... I realize the Radio ROMs are subjective (and discussed ad naseum in various places on this forum) but I am still looking for a succinct summary (if there is one) as to why I would tinker with my Radio ROM to get off of 1.33 and maybe down to 1.27 or some other.
Are there known and significant issues with 1.33?
Anyone?
I really dont know.
Most of the people I see on the forum are on 1.27.00.
I thought I read somewhere that it seemed to work well for most people, although I do not know why 1.33 wouldnt be just as good. Im still a noob.
If anybody can confirm what I am thinking regarding what I need to do, I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks,
Kangle
well, 1.33 is working fine for me... and it certainly would be *easier* for you just to re-flash the new cingular rom again (now that you are sim unlocked and super cid) ... that is what I did, and it worked fine. [and candidly, I was to scared of the many steps I was going to need to take to otherwise downgrade my SPL in order to change my Radio]
weinson said:
so, no one answered my prior question ... I realize the Radio ROMs are subjective (and discussed ad naseum in various places on this forum) but I am still looking for a succinct summary (if there is one) as to why I would tinker with my Radio ROM to get off of 1.33 and maybe down to 1.27 or some other.
Are there known and significant issues with 1.33?
Anyone?
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No issues with 1.33. The only advantage of the 1.27 radio is that it uses radio bootloader (RBL) 1.007, whereas Radio 1.33 has RBL 1.008. The difference is that you can run downgrades on 1.27, but not on 1.33.
The only reason that you might want to downgrade is so that you may flash a trinity Radio if they manage to get the GPS going, which seems unlikely without a hardware mod. So unless you plan on opening up your Hermes at some stage to do some surgery, you don't need to downgrade the radio stack.
Dear Community, Dear Experts, Dear Gurus ,
I am hoping for your help. Unfortuntately the Speaker in my HTC TyTn died
and I need to send back the TYTN to the service center in order to get most likely the speaker replaced ( dead ).
Here my isue:
I want to flash the original stock rom, which is:
RUU_Hermes_1.18.257.2_1.18.257.106_1.03.03.10_Qtek_GER_Ship.exe
I have running now and downgraded from WM6 to WM5:
HTC_BOOT HERM200 IPL-1.04 SPL-2.10.Olipro ->>> not OK :-(
ROM HTC German QTEK_102 1.18.257.2 05/30/06 ->>> OK
EXTROM 1.18.257.106 ->>> OK
RadioRom 1.41.00.10 ->>> not OK :-(
Protocol 32.34.7010.01H ->>> OK
OS Build 14955.2.3.0 ->>> OK
AKU 2.3 ->>> OK
The issue is now, how can I restore the original bootloader ? I can only
flash the rom with the RUUWrapper, the result of flashing the original stock
rom is then, that I am still stuck with the modified bootloader and a corrupted
radio rom. Radio Rom was "fixed" by me by flashing the latest version.
If I would try to use the original flasher I would always get an Update Error [260].
So what can I do to resotre the HTC TyTn to its original status, so that the warranty is not voided ... original stock bootloader, radio rom image and so on.
Thanks a lot and hoping for your support, since I am realy lost here.
Sbrani
grab sspl (soft spl) and use that to flash a stock bootloader only.
as far as i know you cannot downgrade the radio due to it being bootloader 0108 variant, but not having a hermes i might be wrong
You can restore the original SPL bootloader by using SSPL but you will not be able to downgrade the Radio as the original has HTC_BOOT 0106.
You have already checked these guys that they haven't released an update?
First of all, thanks a lot for replying, but still the question is, how I can get rid of the HERM200 IPL-1.04 SPL-2.10.Olipro Bootloader. I would need to downgrade once again to the original HTC bootlader 106. As long as I have the other one, I will always end up, with a non working radio rom, since this stone old radio rom is not compatible with the new "IPL-1.04 SPL-2.10" bootlader. Any further Ideas ? Anyway the sspl (soft spl) did the trick and was able to flash orignal rom, but unfortunately with the same result, still not the original bootloader and the radio rom is now again corrupted :-(.
The bootloader hindering you from downgrading to the original radio is not the IPL/SPL combo but instead the built-in bootloader of the radio itself. Read more in the Wiki.
To put back your original SPL loader, use NBHextract to extract the SPL image from the ROM update file you used to downgrade the other bits in your phone, then use NBHgen to create an update file containing only the SPL and then use SSPL for the update.
Hey great support here ! Finally I also managed to restore the original bootloader, which is HERM200 IPL-1.00 HERM200 SPL-1.04. Now I only have to get the original radio rom running. Thanks a lot, seems that I can think now of actually reaching the final goal. I learned a lot. Great community !!!
You're missing the point about the radio. Let me repeat:
You can't install the original radio ROM. You will brick the phone!
abubasim is right, you have htc_boot 0108, so you can only flash radios with htc_boot 0107 or 0108, but not 0106. Your original radio has 0106, so if you flash it you'll get a NoGSM error and a bricked phone.
about downgrading to WM5
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abubasim is right, you have htc_boot 0108, so you can only flash radios with htc_boot 0107 or 0108,
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Well Pof, abubasim, Couldn’t sbrani downgrade the radio with custom RUU to his own original Rom Radio first?? (almost the official known Radio is 1.38) then following your description. At that time he gone have WM5 Rom and same Radio as original, I just wondering if u can du like this
Don't worry guys I bricked several times now the radio rom . It's just that it is then extra work. I will keep you updated, as soon I have news, for now I can't see anymore those "upgrading" tools. I will try it again tomorrow.
you where able to unbrick because you had HardSPL, but now you have SPL-1.04 which will not allow you to flash unsigned code.
By the way, did anybody have experience with HTC or better to say HTC Serivce Providers. As far as I know I have to send it to Teleservice in Germany. Are they realy checking the installed rom ? Thanks for the info.
Ok, I made it finally, I will post exactly how I did it, maybe it helps someone who will be in the same situation.
Thanks once again, great SUPPORT !!
Sure you'd HELP me!
Hi there,
Hi Sbrani, I'm in the exactly same situation: HTC TYTN (Orange France) without speaker... and needing to go to french HTC support.
I upgraded both ROM and Radio to the latest versions following step by step the tutorial found here and on mr (???) on its website (very well done by the way).
Sbrani, Please could you help me to restore as you did, my factory defaults?
Regards
Fly
Can you give more facts ? Pls look into my first thread and put down the infos. Thx
Guideline: How to downgrade to an original rom
Ok here we go this is how I solved this issue.
First you need to understand the difference between a normal SPL
and the modified SPls, which you can get here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722
A standard SPL will not accept any unsigned code !
In case you bricked it already look here :
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Unbrick
1. you need to figure out, which radio rom matches your rom you want to flash, otherwise you end up with a bricked radio rom or even totally bricked,
if you have a standard SPL.
2.Please check it here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Upgrades
for the roms
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtractedRadioRoms
for the radio roms
3.Looking at my ROM, which I needed I flashed 1.10 - Olipro SPL - based on 1.04,
I flashed it by using SSPL.
4.I flashed then the needed the radio rom
which was Radio upgrade only using CustomRUU 4.3 V 1.38.30.10
5.I used then Custom RUU Updater flashing the needed rom,
but without the included radio rom.
Costum RUU Updater you can find here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_CustomRUU
extracting and modifying is explained here:
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=22&Itemid=27
actually it is an how to downgrade from WM6 to WM6.
Please have a close look on how to extract the rom and how to create a
costum rom, which will fit your needs. The self made rom,
should then include the original IPL and SPL loader.
I finally used again SSPL to flash the self cooked rom.
Sorry if the guide is not very precise or not correct at all !!
Everybody is welcome to correct me and to finetune this guide.
LAST BUT NOT LEAST, please read the HERMES WIKI, it was a great help for me !!
Thank you!
You deserve a Very Very Warm thank you!
I'll try all you advised me this week-end.
Regards,
FlY
it's very good already. i think you should get it incorporated into MrVanx's guide as a downgrade for servicing section
Thanks for your guide sbrani, I have not had to downgrade yet, but it something that is in the back of my mind as I know it will be very difficult if I ever need to.
I would also second the comment that I would be very grateful to MrVanx if he wrote a general guide on how to return to factory condition , as it is much more involved than upgrading. It's one thing to flash a phone, a totally different thing to customise a ROM update in order to only flash a specified portion.
@sbrani:
What version is your radio ROM at now? 1.03.03.10 or 1.38.30.10?
hi guys,
I don't currently have my Athena yet, but Midget_1990 sent me anSPL to work on and I've successfully (well, pretty damn sure I have) patched it to see your device as SuperCID and to accept unsigned code.
If anyone out there can get on IRC so we can try flashing the new SPL via pdocwrite then we can get somewhere, I'll need you to help me find what address the damn is stored at of course but that shouldn't take too long to do.
Cheers,
Olipro.
Ok, I have to ask, and look dumb...
What ARE the IPL and SPL ?
im ready...if you want
MSN: [email protected]
I am desperately in search to unbrick my ameo. So i am willing to test this. I send you pm with my messenger details. Or pls send back pm on how to contact you to test this.
Ok, here's an update:
Thanks to the co-operation of a rather friendly italian chap, I've found the blocksize and address of the SPL on the DoC, so now it's just a case of someone flashing my patched one via itsutils and then getting in touch with me to see if it really has flashed.
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Ok, here's an update:
Thanks to the co-operation of a rather friendly italian chap, I've found the blocksize and address of the SPL on the DoC, so now it's just a case of someone flashing my patched one via itsutils and then getting in touch with me to see if it really has flashed.
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i'm ready to test
tnx
me too
My athena love crash test
OK, I'd quite like to look at the 1.10 SPL.
does anyone here have a 1.10 SPL on their Athena? dumping it is a very simple (and safe) process.
I have 1.06 for you if you want.
and any eta when we can download the spl to flash our cid locked devices?
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I have 1.06 for you if you want.
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yeah, I'll take that too .
the more versions I can get hold of to have a play around with the better.
ETA? no idea.
ok pls tell me to get the 1.06 version to you. maybe you can contact me by msn my adress is in your pm box.
Olipro said:
OK, I'd quite like to look at the 1.10 SPL.
does anyone here have a 1.10 SPL on their Athena? dumping it is a very simple (and safe) process.
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I have
ATHE100 (HTC X7500) Unbranded- no Operator
IPL - v1.00
SPL - v1.10 RP00
What do i need to do to get you the SPL?
My Athena and PC are yours whenever you want......
With the cooperation of a kind soul (and risk-taker) I have been able to get my SPL on their device and it works. we're home free boys
pls can you give us a download and instructions? I would realy like to unbrick my device. So if you could be so kind.
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pls can you give us a download and instructions? I would realy like to unbrick my device. So if you could be so kind.
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your device can't be unbricked. you need access to Windows Mobile.
but i still have acces to boatloader and my device is still flashable it will only give me vendor id error. only problem is i can't get past second tmobile splash screen. So when I flash your spl I should be able to flash other rom afterwards I think?
nope, not at all.
However; consequently; I flashed my SPL to someone's Athena tonight who didn't have the device SuperCID'd and with it the WM6 ROM flashed. so it seems it works as I anticipated.
This means that it should be possible to flash an unlocked radio with it and remove your simlock for free
Super CID My Dopod U1000
I really couldnt believe that my dopod u1000 is going to be Super CID soon. I had amazed at Olipro's work when I had my Herms, now he is proving again that he is the best. All the best Olipro. Just made a donation for you buddy under name 'manugsv'