Ok chaps... good news;
I've patched Radio BL 0108 to not require the rpass or rseed command, therefore, those of you still on 0107 can update to this and will still be able to update your radio ROM with all SPL versions as before.
Sadly updating 0108 to this patched version seems not to work... looks like there's some additional checking implemented in SPL-1.09.
however, if you're on 0107 and update to this... the update to the radio BL should stick permanently (although testing whether it allows downgrades will be the first thing on the menu)
just a bump, hopefully one of you guys has 0107
Ah sorry mate, just lost it by updating to 1.35 radio. There must be some guys still using the 1.27 radio which still has the 0107 radio boot!
Wam7 said:
Ah sorry mate, just lost it by updating to 1.35 radio. There must be some guys still using the 1.27 radio which still has the 0107 radio boot!
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there's a joke in there somewhere about virgin phones... ah well, hopefully someone who still has their cherry will appear
Ok I've been reading the forums and wiki for a while now but I am still confused about everything so I don't really know what this is meant to do, so please forgive me inability to comprehend things.
Does this program allow me to flash any radio rom without needing the bootloader to be 1.04? Any other benefits?
Are there any negative side effects of using this? Like wil I still be able to downgrade radio later on?
What is this rpass or rseed command?
And what radio bootloader version will I get if I used this upgrade?
I'm still using 1.27 on 0107 but am having problems with GPRS/3G services now, am in contact with T-Mobile to find out whether these issues are network related or due to the updated radio rom.
If I could swear on here I would, T-Mobile and there crummy network in the UK are having issues again!
Ok can you explain step by step what you want me to do, coz I am planning the update to radio rom 1.38.00.10 later on this evening, I am planning on putting the Hard-SPL ROM on tonite as well to ensure it goes smoothly.
Mine is radio boot loader 1.08 already. But my wife's is still at the original Cingular Rom 1.34 which has radio boot loader 1.07(and unlocked).
ok, basically, here's the deal;
if you update to a new Radio with 0108, after doing so, you will ONLY be able to flash from bootloader 1.09 due to a new authentication scheme on the radio bootloader.
however... I have patched the 0108 bootloader so that it does not use the new authentication scheme at all and hence permits you to flash the device from any bootloader you like.
those of you still on 0107 can hence take advantage of this since I can provide you with my patched radio bootloader.
now... first I would like someone to volunteer themselves as a guinea pig; the patch is simple and the odds of it bricking your phone are small.
the procedure would be as follows:
1) Flash patched 0108
2) Flash OLD 0107 (to see if we can downgrade as a result of the patch; normally you can't)
3) Flash BACK to patched 0108
4) flash whatever Radio version you fancy yourself to your phone.
ok, now, whoever is game please message me via PM and I'll furnish you with an RUU
Ok lets give it a go lol!
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somehow i have flashed the bootloader 1.09 onto my device/.. hahaahaha
has anyone been able to flash back to 1.04/1.06??
edit... and no its not SuperCID
One solution is to obtain the bootleg 1.04 bootloader downgrade solution. With bl1.04 in place you can SuperCID. You may also be able to unlock with IMEI-check unlocker which I believe will also SuperCID you for 20 euros. I'm not too clear on this though...
thanks... will try and have a look for it....
found it and tried it but im getting a '262' error.. and does anyone have the Readme.doc file???
woohoo!!!!! all works!!!!! i can confirm it downgrades it to 1.04...
At least you're somewhere. I'd try pof's superCID solution next. It may not work though. If not, you'll have to superCID with IMEI-check's unlocker.
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the reason that pof's solution may not work is that your radio bootloader may not permit flashing of the custom radio rom required to implement it. I'm just not sure what radio you flashed when you mistakenly got bl1.09....
it's never easy.....
flashing POF's SuperCID radio now... currently 19%.....
works!!! now SuperCID after using DownGrade_SPL.rar and then flashing POF's patched radio... now to decide which version of OS and RADIO to update to... Sleuth, can you confirm if i now run an update from the exe will it keep the SuperCID and update the SPL to 1.09??
Best to stay 1.04 or even 1.01 MFG BL.
Flashing in nbh (using ruu exe) will maintain SuperCID so you can always get back to bl1.04 or 1.01MFG by using the bl1.01MFG solution (it includes bl1.04 in the download).
Watch out for the radio you flash though! flashing in nbh updates everything! Check the wiki: if radio bl is 1.0108 you don't want to go there!
Also: first test to make sure you are superCID by using mtty. Issue a "task 32" command. It must return "level = 0"
mmmm interesting... im using the Dopod838Pro variant of the HERM100.... now it was SuperCID, i just reflashed it with the HTC 2.05 Test ROM and now my CID is back to DOPOD001..... any ideas???
I was afraid of that. What's your radio ROM now? I believe you gave yourself a radio with bl 1.0108 when you originally flashed the rom that gave you bl1.09.
bugger.... put bootloader back to 1.04 and now reflashing radio to POF's patched SuperCID radio....
edit... but im curious as to why didnt it save the SuperCID???
pof's radio flash is actually failing because your current radio bl (1.0108) isn't allowing it to flash.
You may be down to purchasing imei-check unlock solution to get superCID. Your radio upgrade choices will be limited too if this is the case.
after you're done flashing and running the update, immediately go to mtty and issue task 32. It must say "level = 0" if you are SuperCID. The update program always says "success" btw.
whats the command in bootloader to get the version of Radio Firmware / BL??
Maybe no need, first get your radio version in settings->system->Device info then look it up in the "available radio roms" wiki section. Radio bl is shown there.
If you are on a radio with bl 1.0108, your options (still a lot of them )are essentially spelled out in this thread.
ok but if i have managed to flash a new version of Radio ROM and Radio BL, if i downgrade the Radio Version to lets say 1.20.31.10 does it keep the newer version of Radio BL??
edit ...... ahh sh**.... Radio version is 1.34.00.10, is there any chance/possibility of downgrading this??? so i can SuperCID my device???
Hello, What you use to downgrade the bootloader?
Using the imei-check to unlock the phone?
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ok but if i have managed to flash a new version of Radio ROM and Radio BL, if i downgrade the Radio Version to lets say 1.20.31.10 does it keep the newer version of Radio BL??
edit ...... ahh sh**.... Radio version is 1.34.00.10, is there any chance/possibility of downgrading this??? so i can SuperCID my device???
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bugger.... put bootloader back to 1.04 and now reflashing radio to POF's patched SuperCID radio....
edit... but im curious as to why didnt it save the SuperCID???
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Did you run Herm_Unlock_v2a.exe on your Hermes after flashing the unlocker's 1.16 patched radio? If not, that's why you lost SuperCID.
I've been reading alot around here about upgrading roms. But I am still confused between these two things. Mine has the radio version of 1.16. But I have no idea what radio BL version it is.
I am afraid to upgrade without understanding this. Because from what I've read, I do not want radio BL of 1.08.
Could someone please explain this?
Hi
You'll find this info in the wiki:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtractedRadioRoms
HTC Boot is the radio bootloader so you have 0107. Radios with 0108 are the ones to watch out for since flashing this means that you will no longer be able to flash radio (or other) updates on their own afterwards. HTC Boot is flashed when you flash a new radio rom. Additionally, to have any radio rom flashed successfully once you have HTCBoot 0108, your SPL (system bootloader) needs to be 1.09 otherwise the radio does not get flashed.
The latest HTCBoot0107 radio is 1.27
Regards
Nigel
veletron said:
Hi
You'll find this info in the wiki:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtractedRadioRoms
HTC Boot is the radio bootloader so you have 0107. Radios with 0108 are the ones to watch out for since flashing this means that you will no longer be able to flash radio (or other) updates on their own afterwards. HTC Boot is flashed when you flash a new radio rom. Additionally, to have any radio rom flashed successfully once you have HTCBoot 0108, your SPL (system bootloader) needs to be 1.09 otherwise the radio does not get flashed.
The latest HTCBoot0107 radio is 1.27
Regards
Nigel
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Isn't it possible though to do NBH/ROMupgradeUT radio only updates using SSPL with Radio BL 0107 or 0108?
Edit: I made Radio Only NBH/ROMupgradeUT 1.33.31.00 RBL 108. Using SSPL on device works fine to upgrade my radio. NBH Radio Upgrade Only 1.33.31.00 Run SSPL FIRST
I had radio bl 0108 before trying this so it works this way. There is no way to downgrade radio bl, but it really doesn't matter sine this method works to upgrade or downgrade radio rom.
I've read around the forum and wiki, and it is not clear to me the requirements of upgrading only the radio. My questions are:
1. I have a cing/Att 8525, running the latest WM5 release by att/htc from htc's att site; My phone has not been sim / cid unlocked. Can I upgrade my radio only without unlocking the phone? I upgraded to the official ATT WM6 release from this site, but I lost sync functionality for Microsoft Money for PPC; this is 90% of the reason I bought the phone in the first place, so I'm going to go back to the WM5 release. However, the 1.48 radio in the WM6 release gives me better reception. So, can I upgrade the radio only in the wm5 release w/o unlocking the phone (which is still under warranty)?
2. If the answer to 1 is yes, the second question is that if I clear storage and reformat the phone sometime in the future for warranty purposes, will the radio revert to the WM5 version?
Thanks in advance!
Yes you can flash the radio ROM only. Have a look at the wiki for instructions and download links to extracted radio ROMs (including 1.48). You do not need to unlock your device but installing Hard-SPL first is a very good idea if you want to avoid having to make a call on your warranty.
Yes you can downgrade by flashing over another radio - provided that it (like 1.48) uses radio bootloader 0108. If it uses an older bootloader version you will not be able to downgrade at all. You can check which bootloader version is in use on the wiki page listing radio roms. However, I wouldn't worry about it for two reasons: 1) if you can't downgrade you are stuck on 1.48 now anyway (anothe reason you ought to have Hard SPL installed as a failed downgrade may brick your device); and 2) virtually all official recent WM5 updates will include a radio sufficiently new that it uses bootloader 0108.
U R The Man....
I had read and read and read, and finally stepped out on a limb and did exactly that (hardsplv7, and radio rom 1.50) Prior to reading your response. but you actually answered my remaining question, concerning my warranty. I greatly appreciate your response.
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Yes you can flash the radio ROM only. Have a look at the wiki for instructions and download links to extracted radio ROMs (including 1.48). You do not need to unlock your device but installing Hard-SPL first is a very good idea if you want to avoid having to make a call on your warranty.
Yes you can downgrade by flashing over another radio - provided that it (like 1.48) uses radio bootloader 0108. If it uses an older bootloader version you will not be able to downgrade at all. You can check which bootloader version is in use on the wiki page listing radio roms. However, I wouldn't worry about it for two reasons: 1) if you can't downgrade you are stuck on 1.48 now anyway (anothe reason you ought to have Hard SPL installed as a failed downgrade may brick your device); and 2) virtually all official recent WM5 updates will include a radio sufficiently new that it uses bootloader 0108.
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But if you follow Mrvanx's guide to downgrade the SPL to match your radio version, this should also work not so?
The "radio bootloader" is part of the Radio ROM image, and completely separate from the main SPL bootloader. Once you are on a Radio ROM that uses radio bootloader 0108 you can't downgrade to an older radio bootloader version.
See here for a more detailed discussion:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1114233&postcount=2
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The "radio bootloader" is part of the Radio ROM image, and completely separate from the main SPL bootloader. Once you are on a Radio ROM that uses radio bootloader 0108 you can't downgrade to an older radio bootloader version.
See here for a more detailed discussion:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1114233&postcount=2
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Ahhh, ok sorry, i got a bit confused between the bootloaders.
Thanks for the reminder ma499. Really appreciate it!
Regards.
My bro has a Titan and is thinking about having me upgrade but I saw that his bootloader version states 1.04 not the 1.06 that mine was when I flashed (and also the one that the wiki says too). Is the process the same? Should I just use unlocker then upgrade to 2.40 then install radio then DCD? A little wary as it is not my phone. Please be specific when answering. I am planning to do the most recent radio and rom.
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My bro has a Titan and is thinking about having me upgrade but I saw that his bootloader version states 1.04 not the 1.06 that mine was when I flashed (and also the one that the wiki says too). Is the process the same? Should I just use unlocker then upgrade to 2.40 then install radio then DCD? A little wary as it is not my phone. Please be specific when answering. I am planning to do the most recent radio and rom.
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In order to flash a dcd rom you need 2.40...Go through the same process you would in order to flash a 3.1.x rom.
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In order to flash a dcd rom you need 2.40...Go through the same process you would in order to flash a 3.1.x rom.
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So it still needs unlocker then 2.40 right? or is unlocker unnecessary now?
Who is his carrier? As forthe bootloader question, I'd be asking Ollipro... I've not seen a bootloader 1.04....
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Who is his carrier? As forthe bootloader question, I'd be asking Ollipro... I've not seen a bootloader 1.04....
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bootloader 1.04 is the "stock" verizon bootloader you should still update to the 2.40 if you plan on having any 3.xx.xx radio's
Just to clarify...
When the phone ships it comes with SPL-1.04 which is the stock bootloader, which is why it doesn't say Olipro.
1.06 is also a "stock" bootloader provided by Olipro which allows you to flash stock roms/radios.
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Just to clarify...
When the phone ships it comes with SPL-1.04 which is the stock bootloader, which is why it doesn't say Olipro.
1.06 is also a "stock" bootloader provided by Olipro which allows you to flash stock roms/radios.
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Thanks, I have been flashing since the time you needed the old Olipro to flash the radio and when my brother once before flashed going straight to 2.40 it caused problems. I haven't had a new phone since then and wondered if the unlocker was still necessary. I am gathering that it is not and that you can go straight to 2.40, am I correct?
mogul with slight crack along the frame of screen
i've been reading for a while, and someone wrote that it doesn't matter about the bootloader when returning the phone to the store as long as you have the stock rom. i'm using the newer stock rom (3.35), though i did use the unlocker to put olipro 2.40 on it a while ago to mess with other roms.
the work order for the replacement mogul is already in and it (the new or refurbed mogul) should arrive tomorrow or the next day. should i go through the trouble of putting the stock bootloader on there if i already have the newer stock rom from htc/sprint on my phone?
also, i read that sprint has no warranty (or it's only 30 days). i use total equipment protection for $7 per month (which is how i'm getting a new or refurb mogul because of a case fracture). i'm using the newer stock sprint rom (with gps) and my bootloader says olipro 2.40.
does anyone think that i should be worried if i don't do anything before the new one arrives and just give them the cracked one?
i clearly didn't read the terms and conditions closely enough to find anything that tells me not to modify the bootloader or really ANYTHING about the bootloader...is total equipment protection a warranty that i could possibly void by putting olipro 2.40 on it even with the sprint official 3.35 installed?
I wouldn't worry about it. 1.06 is not the official stock bootloader either, 1.04 is, and I've swapped out my xv6800 a couple times with 1.06 on it and the Verizon stock rom. They don't usually check the bootloader. Just make sure the new Sprint stock rom is on there with radio 3.35.04 and you should be fine.
thanks much for your quick reply. i'll rest easier tonight.
I saw something here about this from azclown and really want to know if it is true.
After flashing nueSPL is it possible to downgrade to other bootloaders?
I tried to run unlocker (Olipro 1.20) and it wouldn't connect right. Do I need to use relocker then load 1.20 then load stock rom. I am testing this out for another phone right now and am a little curious why this would be created so that no other bootloaders could be reloaded.
What I am realizing is that this bootloader is not such a good idea for Verizon users, being that they will not be able to revert to the stock rom (as Verizon has not released a GPS Rom yet).
Am I right here?
serfboreds said:
I saw something here about this from azclown and really want to know if it is true.
After flashing nueSPL is it possible to downgrade to other bootloaders?
I tried to run unlocker (Olipro 1.20) and it wouldn't connect right. Do I need to use relocker then load 1.20 then load stock rom. I am testing this out for another phone right now and am a little curious why this would be created so that no other bootloaders could be reloaded.
What I am realizing is that this bootloader is not such a good idea for Verizon users, being that they will not be able to revert to the stock rom (as Verizon has not released a GPS Rom yet).
Am I right here?
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um, DO NOT attempt to DOWNGRADE your SPL unless you want a permanent brick.
reasoning:
ALL ATTEMPTS whatsoever to downgrade the radio to a pre-GPS radio have F-A-I-L-E-D. They have all resulted in BROKEN BRICKED IRREPARABLE devices.
1.xx SPLS are not (at least that i'm aware of, compatible with GPS radios)
therefore, you cannot downgrade your radio to 1.xx.
You can downgrade to olipro-2.40, but thats pretty much it. Unless your device is SuperCID, i would NOT ADVISE locking your device, because you will only be able to download updates signed by VZW, and as we all know - there are none.
If warranty is a concern,... it would be better to turn in a complete brick than a partial brick. flash a modified VZW OS Only with proper OEMDRIVERS, then run my relocker and lock the SPL down, then warranty it. /... I wouldn't suggest this for anything else, because in case of a bad OS flash, you'd be pretty screwed...
Thanks for chiming in on this no2chem, there's a lot of good information in that post!
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um, DO NOT attempt to DOWNGRADE your SPL unless you want a permanent brick.
reasoning:
ALL ATTEMPTS whatsoever to downgrade the radio to a pre-GPS radio have F-A-I-L-E-D. They have all resulted in BROKEN BRICKED IRREPARABLE devices.
1.xx SPLS are not (at least that i'm aware of, compatible with GPS radios)
therefore, you cannot downgrade your radio to 1.xx.
You can downgrade to olipro-2.40, but thats pretty much it. Unless your device is SuperCID, i would NOT ADVISE locking your device, because you will only be able to download updates signed by VZW, and as we all know - there are none.
If warranty is a concern,... it would be better to turn in a complete brick than a partial brick. flash a modified VZW OS Only with proper OEMDRIVERS, then run my relocker and lock the SPL down, then warranty it. /... I wouldn't suggest this for anything else, because in case of a bad OS flash, you'd be pretty screwed...
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True, I see your point about returning a complete brick. The rest is fine I guess.
Thanks!
no2chem said:
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ALL ATTEMPTS whatsoever to downgrade the radio to a pre-GPS radio have F-A-I-L-E-D. They have all resulted in BROKEN BRICKED IRREPARABLE devices.
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now, by that do you mean they werere were bricked by downgrading the radio with nueSPL previously (or currently) loaded on the device, or downgrading the radio on a device that never had nueSPL loaded on it?
the only reason i ask this is because ive done several radio downgrades from olipro 2.4 to 1.2 to the stock radio/ROMs for refurbishment and ive never had a problem. i dont use the stock SPL because theres no tech around here smart enough to check it.
no2chem said:
um, DO NOT attempt to DOWNGRADE your SPL unless you want a permanent brick.
reasoning:
ALL ATTEMPTS whatsoever to downgrade the radio to a pre-GPS radio have F-A-I-L-E-D. They have all resulted in BROKEN BRICKED IRREPARABLE devices.
1.xx SPLS are not (at least that i'm aware of, compatible with GPS radios)
therefore, you cannot downgrade your radio to 1.xx.
You can downgrade to olipro-2.40, but thats pretty much it. Unless your device is SuperCID, i would NOT ADVISE locking your device, because you will only be able to download updates signed by VZW, and as we all know - there are none.
If warranty is a concern,... it would be better to turn in a complete brick than a partial brick. flash a modified VZW OS Only with proper OEMDRIVERS, then run my relocker and lock the SPL down, then warranty it. /... I wouldn't suggest this for anything else, because in case of a bad OS flash, you'd be pretty screwed...
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No2chem.. I think I am an exception or my XV6800 must be special because I actually messed up my phone because i wanted the new Radio 3.42.02 but couldn't get my Phone to Flash From SD.. So I had to flash a sprint 3.56 ROM to get the Radio and then flashed Verizon kitchen before Sprint customization started.. but for some weird reason.. Sprint customization still ran after i flash the Verizon ROM.. My EPST Settings were all Sprint.. lols..
These are the steps I took to bring it back..
1. Ran Titan_Relocker to relock SPL from version 2.40 Olipro
2. Flashed Stock Verizon ROM and let Verizon Customization run
3. Unlock using NueSPL2.47 letting it format my SD card to enable Flashing from SD [Thank GOD you added this feature]
4. Placed the new Radio 3.42.30 onto my SD card and enter Bootloader and Flashed it [Thanks to You]
5. then flashed my Verizon kitchen.. All with no problem..
I've discussed this method with some of the guys over at PPCKitchen.org and they were concerned about me bricking my phone.. but I said oh what the heck.. my phone is already messed up..
every one was supprised that it worked.. lol.. I must be one of the lucky few..
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No2chem.. I think I am an exception or my XV6800 must be special because I actually messed up my phone because i wanted the new Radio 3.42.02 but couldn't get my Phone to Flash From SD.. So I had to flash a sprint 3.56 ROM to get the Radio and then flashed Verizon kitchen before Sprint customization started.. but for some weird reason.. Sprint customization still ran after i flash the Verizon ROM.. My EPST Settings were all Sprint.. lols..
These are the steps I took to bring it back..
1. Ran Titan_Relocker to relock SPL from version 2.40 Olipro
2. Flashed Stock Verizon ROM and let Verizon Customization run
3. Unlock using NueSPL2.47 letting it format my SD card to enable Flashing from SD [Thank GOD you added this feature]
4. Placed the new Radio 3.42.30 onto my SD card and enter Bootloader and Flashed it [Thanks to You]
5. then flashed my Verizon kitchen.. All with no problem..
I've discussed this method with some of the guys over at PPCKitchen.org and they were concerned about me bricking my phone.. but I said oh what the heck.. my phone is already messed up..
every one was supprised that it worked.. lol.. I must be one of the lucky few..
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weird. what were you running before step 1?
the problem seems to manifest itself when you take a GPS radio, and flash a 2.xx RADIO onto it. When you flashed the verizon stock rom, are you sure you had the 2.xx radio on it?
the reason everyone was concerned about your phone though, was because there were several bricks produced by downgrading radios - ask ImCokeMan, he'll tell you..
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weird. what were you running before step 1?
the problem seems to manifest itself when you take a GPS radio, and flash a 2.xx RADIO onto it. When you flashed the verizon stock rom, are you sure you had the 2.xx radio on it?
the reason everyone was concerned about your phone though, was because there were several bricks produced by downgrading radios - ask ImCokeMan, he'll tell you..
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I didn't quite understand your question..
"When you flashed the verizon stock rom, are you sure you had the 2.xx radio on it?"
When I ran Titan_Relocker.. it installed version 1.06..
Before the Sprint radio upgrade I had...
Hard SPL2.40 Olipro
Radio 3.39.10
No2chem wm6.1 5067 Kitchen
I have also went from a GPS radio to the stock verizon radio/rom a few times because of accidentally letting sprint customizations run.
i am not 100% sure if i had the stock radio on my phone. however it worked with stock verizon rom and phone/ data/ text all worked in stock verizon rom/radio.... so i assume it was the correct radio since it worked with the stock rom...?
EDIT: i do believe i had verizon 1.3 radio on my phone after flashing back from a GPS radio
also i remember reading somewhere that if you do flash back to a stock radio/ rom that it might say stock radio but it will still have components of the gps radio's... i think i read it at ppcgeeks
aguas said:
ive done several radio downgrades from olipro 2.4 to 1.2 to the stock radio/ROMs for refurbishment and ive never had a problem. i dont use the stock SPL because theres no tech around here smart enough to check it.
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i also have downgraded radio from 3.xx to 1.xx without any problems.
I flashed back to non gps as well. I was having bad experiences with dcd's 2.x so I went to his 1.7. No issues flashing at all.
I have also downgraded to 2 different phones from GPS radios to NON-GPS radios.... Verizons stock radio is 1.30, not a 2.x radio, so that may be the issue for some other folks on different carriers.... It may be an incompatibility with 2.x radios and GPS radios.... I have a folder on my desktop that has all the files necessary AND the instructions clearly written out on how to downgrade..... It has saved my butt 2 times now....
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I have also downgraded to 2 different phones from GPS radios to NON-GPS radios.... Verizons stock radio is 1.30, not a 2.x radio, so that may be the issue for some other folks on different carriers.... It may be an incompatibility with 2.x radios and GPS radios.... I have a folder on my desktop that has all the files necessary AND the instructions clearly written out on how to downgrade..... It has saved my butt 2 times now....
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hmm, it might actually be an issue with 2.X radios. I'll do a little bit of research on this one.
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hmm, it might actually be an issue with 2.X radios. I'll do a little bit of research on this one.
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the radio i downgraded to was 1.59
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um, DO NOT attempt to DOWNGRADE your SPL unless you want a permanent brick.
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Ya I used to switch from gps to nongps all the time back when the original leaked radio was the only one out... I also converted my last phone (sent in for broken button) back to complete stock vzw (locked and all) as well....
I haven't tried doing any downgrading after installing nueSPL though... are you indicating this is a probelm after flashing nueSPL? Your post has me a 'lil scared now but I'll wait for followups before I attempt anything.. no plans to go back to nongps anyways, though... the new radios seem to have the bugs worked out.
Zenoran said:
Ya I used to switch from gps to nongps all the time back when the original leaked radio was the only one out... I also converted my last phone (sent in for broken button) back to complete stock vzw (locked and all) as well....
I haven't tried doing any downgrading after installing nueSPL though... are you indicating this is a probelm after flashing nueSPL? Your post has me a 'lil scared now but I'll wait for followups before I attempt anything.. no plans to go back to nongps anyways, though... the new radios seem to have the bugs worked out.
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Only No2chem knows for sure, but after reading his post again I think he's saying you can downgrade to Ollipro 2.4, if thats the case then one should be able to downgrade back to stock as well....
I think no2 is onto something here. I am on VZW also and have gone back to stock from a 3.xx gps radio --> stock 1.30 radio.
I have a feeling that for once we may be glad that verizon never does any updates - they still use 1.30 radio - and that may be the common thread in all our (vzw) success at going back to non gps.
I'd say that I was onto this before him.... He just knows how to verify it...
azclown said:
I'd say that I was onto this before him.... He just knows how to verify it...
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and i would agree with you!
Speaking of the man himself ^^^^ .. I would note that you had all the data, I just thought it was odd that anyone who tried to go back to a 2.X radio would brick it, while us verizon folks would go back to 1.X and have no issues....