New ExtROM for Telstra iMate. Has the new video viewer so you can watch Foxtel etc. Probably some other bits and pieces that I haven't had time to take a look at.
http://www.box.net/shared/xu8t6650u8
Haven't tried it with any of WM6 flavours.
Baggy
Excellent work. Just loaded Black 2.0 and didn't really want to load the new rom I just downloaded from iMate website. Time to install some cabs and have a play with the Foxtel channels.
Dev
You mean the one that was released weeks ago and discussed here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299597&highlight=telstra+rom
yeah it was discussed and released, but nobody extracted or posted the extended rom.
I asked for it, but nobody did it. This is great, got the files.... now....
i noticed a lot of new stuff.... lots of cabs that are not normally there. does anybody know what they do!!! i would like to get some of the new features, i know instinctively what a lot of them do, but i really dont have any clear guidelines or indication for the following as to whether they will add value, or clutter....
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A_AIMEIDetector
MyPlace
Wavedev
MWizard
NITZ Disable
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PrefRat_2
RTSP
These are the two I want
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Telstra v5.2
Just wondering if I need any of the first few, at all to get the next two.
I know some gurus can extract and see in side what they do, i dont have these facilities, skills or knowledge, so if there are people who can, would you mind... i can post the cabs individually back if you wish.
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videoplayer_No_Unistall
Telstra v5.2
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I believe the player is to fix a streaming video problem that existed in that the default player did not work with the format that Foxtel is streamed using.
Not sure about the Telstra 5.2 bit. I'm not smart enought to deconstruct these things...
EDIT: Oh never mind... I just realised what the question was... It's too early in the morning to be reading and posting
Baggy
simon_darley said:
yeah it was discussed and released, but nobody extracted or posted the extended rom.
I asked for it, but nobody did it. This is great, got the files.... now....
i noticed a lot of new stuff.... lots of cabs that are not normally there. does anybody know what they do!!! i would like to get some of the new features, i know instinctively what a lot of them do, but i really dont have any clear guidelines or indication for the following as to whether they will add value, or clutter....
Default ...
3518_07
A_AIMEIDetector
MyPlace
Wavedev
MWizard
NITZ Disable
PP Version
PrefRat_2
RTSP
These are the two I want
videoplayer_No_Unistall
Telstra v5.2
Just wondering if I need any of the first few, at all to get the next two.
I know some gurus can extract and see in side what they do, i dont have these facilities, skills or knowledge, so if there are people who can, would you mind... i can post the cabs individually back if you wish.
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the Videoplayer_no_Uninstall is for Foxtel
Telstra v5.2 is for setting up dataconnections and stuff... but this checks your IMEI before it starts...and if its not an IMATE it will not load...
Ok, i seem to have found a little bit...
NITZ is network identification and time zone disabling facility, so dont install...
MyPlace appears to be some sort of shopping or internet web facility link/app probably just to encourage us to buy more...
WaveDev is supposed to add base boost to the device for tcpmp and the like, so probably worth installing
RTSP is real time streaming protocol, so probably needed for the foxtel installation
PP Version might be to do with the java midlet, not sure yet.
MWizard cant find anything on at all yet.
3818_07 and AUS_HR and prefRat_2 still looking....
Installed MyPlace cab which has a few good web shortcuts. Also installed the Videoplayer_no_Uninstall is for Foxtel, but it comes up with an error when I start the app."PVPlayer cannot be opened. Not signed with a trusted certificate, or one of its componets cannot be found".
So I think it may need another one of the CAB's installed to get it working.
ANyone else had a play with this yet?
Cheers,
Dev
RTSP didn't help, still got the error.
I'll try another cab.
i have extracted and got all the cabs. i havent tried the foxtel, though that is the one that i want.
there is a subscription fee.
also an imei check is required, if you dont have imate, it wont install apparently. mine is imate jasjam, so hopefully it will work.
Okidoki
Getting a bit of research going, and testing.
FIRSTLY. IF YOU HAVE WM6 DO NOT INSTALL PV PLAYER OR RTSC.
You dont need it. Media Streaming works for Foxtel services. The reason PV Player is available is due to WM5 and the shortfall of the OS. WM6 uses media streaming and it works, so we dont need that.
The new telstra cab file is beneficial. It installs the correct settings for MMS and internet, sets the WAP facility and i also find i get better phone connection, might be an appearance, see later.
The proxy manager that is installed should be used with My Places, to force the system through the WAP and thus receive the concessional access charges of My Places. Also, My Places being WAP based, is very text limted, and download size limited compared to most, so the cost of access is much cheaper.
However, I suspect leaving the proxy on is going to interfere with push email, and general browsing. So its a matter of turning the proxy on before connecting to the internet (and WIFI is not available when proxy on), so that you can connect to the internet My Places and their rosey garden of chosen content.
However it is possible to access foxtel via the normal internet settings, but suspect if you do that you are going to get or incur premium data charges.
So in summary the ones i wanted i dont want, and the ones i didnt want or need, i installed. Not all though, if I couldnt see a reason for them, skipped them.
Still awaiting some feedback or input in what most of them were about, but if you are on telstra, then some of the items in that extended rom are worth while.
If somebody after this does want to know what i installed, and the effects (if known!), PM me. Its going to be a bit of trial and error over time, so better to PM rather than me keep posting back....
Also, might be beneficial for somebody to consider looking at some of the other files like the mms and other cab files, to see if they are newer, better, or more efficient than the standard device settings.
Personally, i aint gonna bother unless i find a need, i am sure anything in wm6 is going to be better than what imate are releasing.... (thanks to jasjamming and his premium wm 6 OS.... )
Thanks for the info simon. It is appreciated.
Is any of this required in WM6? Is it possible to just get the ExtRom by itself? I upgradded to the latest ROM from iMate/Telstra, but i want to upgrade to WM6 too...
just download ext rom review as reqd but install telstra cab and my places cab if u want foxtel. there are 3 others installed and didnt appear tause harm but cant see what they did or the benfits.
somebody needs to open the cabs and let us know wot they do.
i also installed the 3518 odd ball one, the one with AUS in it and pref-rat as its name imples prwference rates but dont really know wot these 3 did... but again caused no apparent harm.
Have installed those two cabs but cant get Foxtel to work.
I go to my place and click on the Foxtel icon, and I get the following error "Page cannot be displayed or downloaded because the connection was lost". I do have a data connection as my push mail & web browsing works perfectly. I'll have to try other cabs as when I click on Bigpond music icon on My Place, it comes up and says Non Telstra, so there is obviously something missing.
Any ideas anyone?
Dev
Do you have the telstra proxy turned on?
you should b able to access wap on my places without proxy. proxy reqd for most things though including foxtel.
can u browse the internet? is connection set to internet or work?
if that fails disconnect from internet and use the telstra proxy and view the rese coloured telstra garden...
No, I didnt have proxy enabled. Just turned it on and it doesnt make any difference as I still get the same error message. When I click on the Foxtel icon, it want to connect to Telstra.internet, not Telstra.Wap. Both my WAP & Internet connections are working perfectly.
I'm stumped!
Dev
Yea - I cant get fox or AFL vids to function either. Can browse to the wap sites, etc, and click on the TV stuff, it loads up the Windows Media player, says 'Failed to connect', then closes.
Im working with WM6 Black 2.0, with just the Telstra 5.2 cab and My places cab installed. Proxy was set to 'On' for my testing.
Would like to know if I need any other cabs from the Ext rom to get it to work.
i am having difficulties. still testing. but... in media streaming ... need to set the connections settings as to which to use may be secure wap or simply wap. not sure which yet.
i had the test working ok... cant get live to work yet. need to fiddle and ensure doesnt exceed downloads while testing...
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Does anyone know how to view bank sites, I have tried neally everything from "ThunderHawk" which is the only one that works but you have to pay yearly subsciption. It just seems stupid that we pay so much for a ppc phone and we get such basic programs, eg: word, PIE. The processors in a PPC now are bigger than an older laptop that can run anything you want currently on the market neally so what the F##K is Microsoft doing. They bring out PPC 2003 and sure it runs faster but it has PIE on it that you can't even do everday banking on.
Any one know of a tweak or program that will allow me to access NetBank Australia. :?:
Try Netfront
It works for me........
There's also a registry tweak which I can't remember right now. That will fool the pocket explorer into reporting it's a different version when connecting to a web site which would probably allow you to view the bank site.
If I remember correctly, the error message you get says you need a newer version of PIE. There is a freeware program called RegKing that includes a simple menu of registry tweaks, one of which fools websites into thinking PIE is version 5, which should be high enough to get on their sites.
Here's a link:
http://www.doctorce.com/
RegKing is the brainchild of Chris De Herrera and Terence "Dr. CE" Goggin.
Still no luck with PIE
I can log into NETBANKS website and enter my ID and password and then it goes onto the site OK but when I am on the site I can't click on anything, eg. To "transfer Money", "exit NetBank" or click on the account number to view transactions.
When I click on anything I get a popup that reads "Microsoft JScript runtime error. Line: 126 Character: 2 Error: Wrong number of arguments or invalid property assignment."
Any help ME. :?:
I have tried the tweak to internet Explorer 5.0, didn't make any difference, I have tried ToggleIE, doesn't work either.
Natwest
I to do internet banking at home, or on the works pc...
Like many of you others out there I look forward to this flaw and many others being fixed on the pocket pc. ANy help developers?
It looks like this is something more than a quick fix...
Why dont you complain to your bank.
It all depend on whether the particular bank even bother to cater for handhelds.
Ive found wm2003 able to access more sites including bank sites.
Come on now, complain to the bank, how many thousand customers and I ring up and say I want to use NetBank with my PPC and I expect them to redo there million dollar web site, don't think so...... But I will take your advise and try.
What I am getting at is there is a way to do it as "ThunderHawk" software works, so there is software that can go on the PPC that will work with bank sites, they have made a browser that is nearlly or if not the same as internet explorer on your computer. But they are to expensive and an on going cost. There are programs like NETFRONT 3.0 which have so much more than PIE but still have not gone all the way, why bother if you are going to stop short. Why can't microsoft just make a proper PIE, as I said before, its not as if theres not enough hardrive space or processor speed. Why half hearted products. This is the main problem with PPC, the gap between a PPC and a normal computer is to big. I wanted to print invoices out on the job, so I copied my invoice from word in my computer to the PPC and wala, Its now F##ked it looks nothing like the PC one and its so hard to edit the margins on PPC. I should really stop going on, its Microsoft what more could I expect........ :evil: :evil: :evil:
Hi....I recently flashed CUSTEL'S V2.5 WM6 and I was running Dopod WM6. With dopod wm6, IE was full version and I got full websites with great quality pictures etc. Now, with CUSTEL'S WM6, I am on Pocket IE and it just plain stinks. Is there a way to change IE or get rid of the "pocket" version or do I have to live with it while using this WM6 rom?
U can try Netfront, Opera, P.I. plus for your PPC. Just do a search for more info on these...
You never had a "full" IE as your calling it. It was Pocket IE in both roms, however, there might of been some setting changes. Do you have images turned on? Are you browsing through a mobile proxy now? Make sure you are going to the same addresses as before.
cirial said:
You never had a "full" IE as your calling it. It was Pocket IE in both roms, however, there might of been some setting changes. Do you have images turned on? Are you browsing through a mobile proxy now? Make sure you are going to the same addresses as before.
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Well, I just had to assume it was full....things like yahoo for instance, if I went to yahoo b4, I would get the full yahoo website. Now, I automatically get redirected to mobile yahoo...and images on all websites are very low quality where as b4 they were fine. I can not find anywhere to change these settings.
there will be a option in pocket ie somewhere can't remember where atm, (i'm currently hooked on opera ppc 8.65) where you can tell pie to identify itselfs as a mobile browser, you will get pages optimised for mobile devices.(or it might be in pieplus or one of the other reg hacks )
or you can tell it to identify as a ie6 in which case you will get web pages desgined for a full size screen...
registry hack
it's a registry hack that announces what version of IE you're using.
Do a google search and you'll get you're answer.
It's HKLM/SOFTWARE/MICROSOFT/ Windows/ Current Version/Internet Settings/5.0/User Agent
Change Version to MSIE 6.0
nanastas said:
it's a registry hack that announces what version of IE you're using.
Do a google search and you'll get you're answer.
It's HKLM/SOFTWARE/MICROSOFT/ Windows/ Current Version/Internet Settings/5.0/User Agent
Change Version to MSIE 6.0
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i thought it was something like that
was just too lazy to google
mattie01 said:
i thought it was something like that
was just too lazy to google
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Hahaha, probably faster as to login on a forum and ask you're question!
Thanks for the replies.....I am unfamiliar with how to get into the registry so I will have to figure something else out.
get a tweak program
A lot of the tweaking programs will do this for you.
www.tweaks2k2.net is one of the best
What if we used a Proxy Server instead of the WAP servers, and mobile servers that are provided.. then wouldnt the pages show up in full form?
Just wanted to know if any tmobile users in the uk have experienced any issues when trying to use t-zones for extra services?
I want to try out their mobile tv service and it says you must go through t-zones to set it up but it doesnt appear to be showing the option on a wm6 ameo and i remember the homepage looking different when i had the original t-mobile rom.
it doesn't appear in WM6 or PK rom 2 like it used to. Tmobile support told me the tzones browser has been removed but im not sure if they were just talking poo.
damn!
I wanted to try the sky sports mobile tv thing they offer!
do you think there is a way around this?
you can go directly through SKY website to set the deal up
because thats where the link takes you.
However the last time i looked pocket pcs were not
supported in the phone list . worth a check though cos you would think they would be
BAD NEWS just followed the link sent by sky to the sign up page .
Error your phone is not supported by SkyMobile TV
t-mobile are crap and so is sky for not supporting the ppc when the spec page at tmobile states that it does
https://www.t-mobile.co.uk/shop/mobile-phones/phones/pay-monthly/t-mobile/ameo/spec/
They tell you to check for mobile tv in the getting started page of mobile tv/getting started at their web page.
I wouldnt worry too much mate. Get Orb on your PC and you can stream any tv prog via your home PC including P2P TV like Sopcast and TVU.
I can watch literally any match inc 3PM saturday KO's on my AMEO anywhere there is a HSDPA connection for FREE!
I would have liked to try this out but im not missing out
that looks like its the only solution. cheers bro!
presumably their servers detect what browser youre running. no doubt the latest internet explorer hasnt yet been added to the supported browsers or something. i recall this working on my Ameo pre-wm6, however T-Mobile cannot be entirely blamed for the advertised mobile tv support not working on updated devices as to date they have not released or authenticated wm6 on the Ameo.
the url for mobile tv is http://www.t-mobilefavourites.co.uk/en/mobiletv.jsp
it shows no options to select, however the same url in a pre wm6 browser (or a mobile phone browser) gives multiple choices.
leoni1980 said:
presumably their servers detect what browser youre running. no doubt the latest internet explorer hasnt yet been added to the supported browsers or something. i recall this working on my Ameo pre-wm6, however T-Mobile cannot be entirely blamed for the advertised mobile tv support not working on updated devices as to date they have not released or authenticated wm6 on the Ameo.
the url for mobile tv is http://www.t-mobilefavourites.co.uk/en/mobiletv.jsp
it shows no options to select, however the same url in a pre wm6 browser (or a mobile phone browser) gives multiple choices.
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can i not just use an older version of ie or opera?
Just tried this link - thanks.
Nothing in IE but options in Opera. But when I select a vid to watch I get 'Failed to find network' - probably because I use MoDaCos proxy rather than T-Mobs. Has anyone tried Opera with T-Mobs proxy?
Tried with an older version of opera 8.60u2 and experience the same problem and I have t-mobiles proxy settings of 149.254.201.132 on port 8080.
Im presuming your using opera from the add-on pack for Black Touch PK V2.0?
basically I think the problem is that these services are just not compatible with the AMEO which kinda sucks seeing as its the most advanced and expensive model in the T-Mobile range
but then we know what dicks they are when it comes to support. As the AMEO is a niche product
I.e. prob not many people have bought one, neither they or sky can be bothered to support it
has anybody got the original opera from the wm5 t-mob rom?
i thought it was exactly the same opera.
I'm using the final release of Opera 8.65 now but I'm fairly certain the problem is with the streaming App not opera or ie.
basically i dont think this works with any PPC i havent heard of anyone using one with this service.
The sky list of working phones does not include any PPcs.
maybe they think there is a way a PPC can circumvent paying for the service, due to the programmability of a windows based phone
People in other forums have got this working but it seems to work for some and noty others or even for some people at some times only!
Confucious said:
People in other forums have got this working but it seems to work for some and noty others or even for some people at some times only!
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what forums?
well, this one (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=309900&highlight=mobiletv ) and over at MoDaco similar
no one seems to have got it working on an AMEO from what i have seen. TMobile suppport really sucks.
i think maybe it works on 3g but not HSDPA, which is really backward
I just flashed my phone after a lengthy process of changing the bootloader and going through all the steps on the wiki and ended up with windows mobile 6.1 and dcd's 3.1.6 rom. I thought everything was going great, until I tried to download follow a link to the google maps download I got in a text message. The page wouldn't load and the phone gave me an error that said that I had no service provider or something for internet access.
I have sprint sero and before today I had excellent 3g internet access. Now however, trying to navigate to web pages is impossible. However, my phone and sms and other sprint services still work, just not data transfer.
Also, I installed google maps through usb and the map functionality worked fine (which is strange because it's supposed to rely on internet access to get map information from the google servers). Maps would render fine and I could even search up directions from and to locations. However, when I tried to use the gps function, it failed to work just like it did before I flashed my mogul. It took me to what I assume to be the intersection of the prime meridian and the equator off the coast of africa.
This is very troublesome because the reason I flashed my firmware in the first place was to gain gps access!
My gps is configured exactly as outlined in the gps faq post on this forum, so it's not a configuration problem.
I'm extremely confused right now and I'd really appreciate it if someone explained these problems to me.
Just going out on a limb...did you install the Sprint carrier cab?
No... Why?
I'm guessing I should've?
Link?
I sometimes wonder if people read the first post of the kitchen's thread, or if they just click download and go at it...
i think we need a pens/wings link banner on the top as a "friendly reminder" to install the carrier cab....it really is amazing that people are willing to do this to their phones without paying attention and making sure they have everything right.
whong09 said:
I just flashed my phone after a lengthy process of changing the bootloader and going through all the steps on the wiki and ended up with windows mobile 6.1 and dcd's 3.1.6 rom. I thought everything was going great, until I tried to download follow a link to the google maps download I got in a text message. The page wouldn't load and the phone gave me an error that said that I had no service provider or something for internet access.
I have sprint sero and before today I had excellent 3g internet access. Now however, trying to navigate to web pages is impossible. However, my phone and sms and other sprint services still work, just not data transfer.
Also, I installed google maps through usb and the map functionality worked fine (which is strange because it's supposed to rely on internet access to get map information from the google servers). Maps would render fine and I could even search up directions from and to locations. However, when I tried to use the gps function, it failed to work just like it did before I flashed my mogul. It took me to what I assume to be the intersection of the prime meridian and the equator off the coast of africa.
This is very troublesome because the reason I flashed my firmware in the first place was to gain gps access!
My gps is configured exactly as outlined in the gps faq post on this forum, so it's not a configuration problem.
I'm extremely confused right now and I'd really appreciate it if someone explained these problems to me.
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You dont have wireless carrier data service because you didnt install the carrier cab. This much I guess you already know now from the posts above. But to explain how google maps worked when you were connected to USB even though your wireless internet(data) was down is easy to explain. When you are connected by USB, the PC supplies internet capability to the Titan by activesync "pass down". This is normal and it is how activesync is supposed to work. It allows you to get data from an exchange server (synchronize) whenever you set your PPC in the cradle (or connect via USB).
Its quite a handy feature and allows you to use the internet on your titan even if you dont have wireless or WIFI access to the internet.
its kind of my fault for separating it. i was working on a startup script to prompt for carrier and automatically install, but i scrapped it. i will work on it more when i have time.
Thank you maccaberry for the informative and cordial reply.
That makes sense actually, as now that I'm not connecting my phone to my pc google maps fails to work.
So where can I get the sprint carrier cab download? I searched the xda wiki and google but found nothing.
http://www.lifesnotsogood.com/dcd1182/titan/carriers/dcd Titan Carrier - Sprint.cab
I have a question about this one too. I had been on dcd's 3.0.4 ROM and 3.35 Radio, with a 2.00 PRI and 60611 PRL. After upgrading everying to 3.1.6, 3.39.10, 2.03.003, and 60711 (plus the Sprint carrier cab), I now have the GPS off the coast of Africa problem. I had this problem with earlier ROM versions, but had to upgrade to fix it. Not sure what I can do now.
I am using GoogleMaps, which I know doesn't need to prime the GPS first. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
EDIT: Nevermind. It is working now. Tempermental phone perhaps. Also, now that it is working, I tried to see if I could get a lock indoors like others, but I can't. Those that can, must be nice.
Thank you Santehnik!
I've got the carrier cab installed and the data's working just fine now.
The gps function for google maps is still broken though..
Maybe I'm just having the same problem kockroach had. Kockroach, how did you fix your gps? Or did it just start working on its own?
Also, does anyone know where I can download windows live messenger? The app was missing on dcd's rom, but I actually need it for contact information retrieval.
dcd1182 said:
its kind of my fault for separating it. i was working on a startup script to prompt for carrier and automatically install, but i scrapped it. i will work on it more when i have time.
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3.16 was the first time I used UC, and it works great (except for cabs that require user info on install- this affects thing like Skyfire and Wireless Sync), so I would suggest people read up on it from the UC link in the first post of the 3.16 thread, at least to install their carrier cab. Next time around I'm going to try and use it for reg edits and file copies as well, since that's my last frontier for autoinstall. UC is slow, but its great to just sit and let it happen, instead of manually doing it.
3.16 was the first time I used UC, and it works great (except for cabs that require user info on install- this affects thing like Skyfire and Wireless Sync)
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Cabs that require input are easy....all you do is add a few commands before and after the CAB command like this:
Code:
LOCK:Enabled
CAB: \Storage Card\Cabs\regularcab.cab
CAB: \Storage Card\Cabs\regularcab.cab
LOCK:Disabled
HIDE:Enabled
CAB: \Storage Card\Cabs\userinputcab.cab
HIDE:Disabled
LOCK:Enabled
CAB: \Storage Card\Cabs\regularcab.cab
CAB: \Storage Card\Cabs\regularcab.cab
LOCK:Disabled
RST: Reset
Currently I have everything done via UC. I use three provxml files, one for registry, one for file operations, and one for email. If anyone wants to see my files for reference let me know.
1. In my SDConfig.txt setup, I have all the cabs listed one after another. In yours, do the HIDE commands temporarily bring the user input screen to the front, and then continue? If so, does HIDE have to be enabled/disable for each such cab, or can you enable, do a few cabs in a row that require input, and then disable again?
Also, I have one program, Pocket Plus, which requires a soft reset. I just put it last in the file and then rebooted manually. Is there a command to allow reset and then continue with UC?
2. I for one would like to see your SDConfig with the provxml files used for reg edits, as this would finish things off for me. It seems the more time that goes by the more regedits I add, and it really is time consuming.
Sorry for OT on this, but the UC thread is enormous. Thanks!
gc14 said:
Currently I have everything done via UC. I use three provxml files, one for registry, one for file operations, and one for email. If anyone wants to see my files for reference let me know.
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I would love to see your provxml files! I currently have UC simply installing cabs and that's it. Could you either post them here or email me at btonetbone at hotmail dot com?
I did a bunch of searching but didn't come up with a clear answer (probably due to just how much info is out there on cooking).
Why do people cook ROM's in kitchens? What is the advantage of it, vs taking a clean rom, and installing the .cab's for the various programs / options you want, using a program like Sashimi or even manually?
It seems like if it's cooked into the ROM, a program can't be removed or upgraded. Is there a storage size benefit or some other benefit? Thanks in advance.
Well some people like to REMOVE stuff that they don't use. DCD includes a lot of stuff by default that I personally remove when I use the kitchen. Likewise, he doesn't include some of the stuff I like to install that isn't (officially) in CAB form.
A good example of this is that I remove all Voice-related stuff and add the Entertainment pack to my Kitchen ROMs, as well as some generic stuff like TomTom7.
As far as auto-installing using Sashimi or Autorun/etc, I can't really answer anything related to those, but integrating into an OEM eliminates the need to install via CAB (it's basically installed when u flash).
I hope that helps some. If not, ask away.
One benefit I see is if you have some form of a tracking tool, if someone steals your phone and does a hard reset, if you have it cooked in the rom via kitchen, then it restarts back up and will be able to help you recover your phone.
For tools that don't update on a regular schedule, there is the benefit of not having to reload it from a cab. In my case I have it auto-configure my exchange settings, owner info, load a few games that I don't have a cab for, and to change a few of the programs that DCD provides that I don't use.
I can hard reset my phone in the field and within 30 seconds my data is already being synced back to my phone with only a few clicks.
BTC
BillThyCat said:
One benefit I see is if you have some form of a tracking tool, if someone steals your phone and does a hard reset, if you have it cooked in the rom via kitchen, then it restarts back up and will be able to help you recover your phone.
For tools that don't update on a regular schedule, there is the benefit of not having to reload it from a cab. In my case I have it auto-configure my exchange settings, owner info, load a few games that I don't have a cab for, and to change a few of the programs that DCD provides that I don't use.
I can hard reset my phone in the field and within 30 seconds my data is already being synced back to my phone with only a few clicks.
BTC
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The hard-reset idea was what I used to claim, but not anymore. I flash a new ROM on this phone like every 2 weeks. (addiction?) Having most of my apps cooked on after flashing is the biggest benefit for me now. Since I've got all my apps in OEM form (some already made, some I created on my own), I just simply use them in whatever kitchen. So now, no matter what ROM I flash to, it's still the "same" for me
i do it mainly for convenience, its a lot easier for me to configure all my email, owner info, reg tweaks, and other stuff on my PC before flashing than on the phone after flashing
Great question!
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Why do people cook ROM's in kitchens? What is the advantage of it, vs taking a clean rom, and installing the .cab's for the various programs / options you want.
It seems like if it's cooked into the ROM, a program can't be removed or upgraded. Is there a storage size benefit or some other benefit? Thanks in advance.
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I'm very new to this, but now that I've installed my first custom ROM I've been wondering the same thing. I find the responses you've received very interesting - for instance, how do you
configure all my email, owner info, reg tweaks, and other stuff on my PC before flashing than on the phone after flashing
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If I can do that, then it would seem to make sense to put up as stripped a ROM as possible and load all my normal programs on the storage card.
I used a tool called OEMIzer, it let me preset owner info, email server info, default theme, etc.
BTC
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I used a tool called OEMIzer, it let me preset owner info, email server info, default theme, etc.
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Thanks, BTC. By the way, I was at UT getting my MBA when Berkeley Breathed was starting up many of his characters in the Daily Texan . . .
I miss Bloom County..... None of BB's comics since have been as funny or as thought provoking.
My brothers "hacker" alias was Oliver Wendell Jones.
I was in HS at the time, so you got a few years on me
BTC
BillThyCat said:
I miss Bloom County..... None of BB's comics since have been as funny or as thought provoking.
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Agreed!
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I was in HS at the time, so you got a few years on me
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Amen to that. My wife tells me I am too old to be playing around with custom ROM's and assembling my own PC's, but I figure if I'm not learning every day I'm dying. (grin)
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If I can do that, then it would seem to make sense to put up as stripped a ROM as possible and load all my normal programs on the storage card.
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thats pretty much what i do, i dont cook any apps into the rom, just settings, then i have cabs for all my apps on my storage card, i dont install them to the card because of access speeds
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thats pretty much what i do, i dont cook any apps into the rom, just settings, then i have cabs for all my apps on my storage card, i dont install them to the card because of access speeds
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So do you put all your data files (Excel workbooks, Word docs, databases, etc.) on your card? With 8 to 16 GB cards, there's little worry about running out of storage now.
I've installed nearly all of my (non-MS) apps on the card currently; loading doesn't seem to be a problem except for Skyfire. Next ROM image I assemble I will minimize everything in ROM and use your "CAB on Card" idea.
Thanks for the comment. cv
For quite some time, I used the kitchen on my Apache & then some with my Mogul.
For the Apache, the biggest benefit was saving memory by getting rid of all the crap Sprint loads on the phone. For the Mogul, memory isn't as big an issue, anymore.
I quit using the kitchen because the results were too buggy with my Mogul. I need my phone to operate every single time I use it and the one in a hundred times my kitchen-ized phone wouldn't work right was one time too many.
One of the annoying things about the kitchen, imo, is that there are dozens of wonderful apps with no explanation as to what they do. I've inquired about them a few times & rarely ever gotten a clear answer. Most of them can be Googled, but many can't. It seems like a waste.
In the end, I'm using Sprint's latest official ROM with lots and lots of upgrades. I also have figured out how to delete most of the files that are installed by default using various file explorers, so I've cleared up even more memory. Now, my phone is rock solid... doesn't have a single glitch... works 100% of the time at 100% capability. I do not worry that the bluetooth will decide it's not going to work, don't worry that the answer button won't work when I receive a call, don't worry that it's going to freeze up for no reason...
The kitchen is fun, and with my Apache, was a lifesaver.
I just don't feel the bugs I get from the kitchen outweigh the bugs Sprint's 6800 rom gives me (I haven't actually found any, yet.) With the Apache, the equation worked the other way around.