Good afternoon, everyone. I am sure this have been covered before.
I own a Cingular 8525 and I am using the latest official release. I understand a new ROM will be released shortly and I'd like to know how to install the ROM without all the bloat that Cingular builds into it.
However, I need the custom settings, such as the settings for GPRS (I utilize Push) and other Cingular settings (such as TXT settings and voicemail) that are needed.
From what I gather you can soft reset before the custom installation, but that's where I need to know what to do to get the settings in place. I imagine from what I've read that this is easy but I can't find how others have done it.
Any help is greatly appreciated. I'd like to be able to print any help for future reference.
Thank you in advance.
Most of the 'BLOAT' is built into the ROM itself anyway, so you would need to 'bake' the ROM in order to get rid of it which would be a bigger P.I.T.A than it is worth. If you are wishing to go for a 'clean' ROM with minimal crap in it then you could always try one of the latest WM6 ROMs, black (for example) has a cingular flavour which you can use (it has all the standard cingular stuff in it, except it is WM6). Id recommend giving that a shot if you wanna try it.
To upgrade to black 2.5 you can use my guide and when you come to the part where you download the ROM select the one for cingular users.
Thank you for the link, however, I do not want to use unofficial releases.
I don't necessarily agree with everything you've said. Granted, I am sure you have more experience when it comes to this.
I did a hard reset on my phone a few months ago and then a soft reset before the custom installation started. Much of the bloat was absent but I couldn't figure out those custom settings that I did need.
Maybe I am mistaken...?
what custom settings do you need? thats where im a little confuzzuled.. the data settings? the MMS settings? if thats it they can all be installed with ne effort byy using the Cingular Settings cab thats floating around. other than the data and MMS which can also be entered manualy if you know them by heart or write them down before upgrading the rom. come to think of all can be installed by cabs just.
madmatt079 said:
Thank you for the link, however, I do not want to use unofficial releases.
I don't necessarily agree with everything you've said. Granted, I am sure you have more experience when it comes to this.
I did a hard reset on my phone a few months ago and then a soft reset before the custom installation started. Much of the bloat was absent but I couldn't figure out those custom settings that I did need.
Maybe I am mistaken...?
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All you do with a hard reset is remove apps or whatever else you installed in the device. You can't remove this "bloat", or in other words, what the phone had when you first turned it on. It's in the ROM, and what the post above already told you, you can only get a basic ROM without the added crap if you upgrade to WM6. Are you looking for a WM5 that someone bothered to take the time to remove stuff from? That's, um, as they said at Bastogne, nuts!
Guys, I'm not looking to incite an arguement, but I know this is not the case.
For instance, when I did a hard reset then a soft reset before the customization began I didn't have a bunch of applications, such as: ClearVue PDF, Download Agent, Voice Speed Dial, SIM Manager, Zip, and a few others.
Now, that is only if I recall correctly, but I am fairly certain that at least a few of those were in fact missing. I also didn't have the Cingular theme.
As I previously said, I have not and do not want to use an unofficially released ROM.
I have a colleague that has the MDA (T-Mobile) and he told me about this process. However, he could only provide me with information related to the MDA.
austinsync: Could you please point me in the direction of the settings CAB or the settings for MMS/data/etc. for the 8525?
Thanks everyone for reading and attempting to help/or helping. Thanks.
The best way to find out what "bloat" you have is to unlock your extended rom and check what cab files are included in it. Anything else on your phone is either part of the ROM or installed by you later.
There's one method of unlocking/unhiding here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=283750 or if you know the ROM version the extended ROM contents may already be listed here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtendedRoms
You can also modify your extended ROM (but I can't find the tutorial at the moment) , and there are also many links to cab files for the Cingular settings.
The only problem with researching for this info is that it'll open your eyes to the many possibilities the Hermes has and you may get hooked on WM6 and upgrading
madmatt079 said:
Guys, I'm not looking to incite an arguement, but I know this is not the case.
For instance, when I did a hard reset then a soft reset before the customization began I didn't have a bunch of applications, such as: ClearVue PDF, Download Agent, Voice Speed Dial, SIM Manager, Zip, and a few others.
Now, that is only if I recall correctly, but I am fairly certain that at least a few of those were in fact missing. I also didn't have the Cingular theme.
As I previously said, I have not and do not want to use an unofficially released ROM.
I have a colleague that has the MDA (T-Mobile) and he told me about this process. However, he could only provide me with information related to the MDA.
austinsync: Could you please point me in the direction of the settings CAB or the settings for MMS/data/etc. for the 8525?
Thanks everyone for reading and attempting to help/or helping. Thanks.
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I just upgraded to the latest officially released ROM from HTC and AT&T (http://www.america.htc.com/support/8525/software-downloads.html).
And now there is even more bloat, such as AT&T Music and an animated startup.
We know, that is why many of us here use ROMs from the kitchen. That is where the bloat is removed. From PDA to high-end PC when it comes from the factory it will have bloatware installed.
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I just upgraded to the latest officially released ROM from HTC and AT&T (http://www.america .htc.com/support/8525 /software-downloads.html ).
And now there is even more bloat, such as AT&T Music and an animated startup.
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Wow...you catch on quick.
I suggest you try reading more.
Btw, you don't have to manually enter yout txt and voicemail settings..just go to "phone" "services" and "get settings" and that may not even be required, and its really simple to enter your data settings manually...but that would require reading also.
madmatt079 said:
I just upgraded to the latest officially released ROM from HTC and AT&T (http://www.america.htc.com/support/8525/software-downloads.html).
And now there is even more bloat, such as AT&T Music and an animated startup.
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Gee, ya think? That's why we keep repeating ourselves by telling you to update to one of the cooked ROMS here, since they're as basic as they come and you can add whatever CABs, or as you say "bloat", to your own personal liking. *sigh*
It sounds like a little confusion is happening. I see where the guy (girl?) is coming from. when you run the .exe file from HTC's website, it installs a basic image. When the device reboots, a "Batch file" runs that goes through a bunch of pre-loaded cabs installing a lot of extra apps (bloat). What madmatt079 did in the past was, right before the device says "customizing your phone" he/she hit the soft reset. This interupted the "batch file" prohibiting the cabs from being installed. Though the cabs were sitting in the wings waiting, they were never executed resulting in less "icons" on the screens. But, this also keeps some of the cingular specific settings from taking hold.
I understand his un-willingness to install a baked ROM. Doing it his soft-reset way gives him a warm fuzzy when it comes to keeping the phone stock, but not really stock you know. I think the correct answer here is the search feature. Either that, or let the ROM go all the way through, wirte your setting down on paper, then redo the ROM and stop it mid stream. The stuff will be there, just not fully installed.
Good luck with it.
madmatt079 said:
I just upgraded to the latest officially released ROM from HTC and AT&T (http://www.america.htc.com/support/8525/software-downloads.html).
And now there is even more bloat, such as AT&T Music and an animated startup.
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As it has been stated...the bloat is in the ROM...not the extended rom that runs after a hard resest.
here are the contents of the extended ROM:
LOCK:Enabled
CAB: \Extended_ROM\C_Cingular_GoodEmail_081606.sa.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\C_getmail.htc8525.cab
CAB: \Extended_ROM\C_HSDPA_Wirelss_Modem_Stall.cab
CAB: \Extended_ROM\C_GetTeleNav.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\MT_PC_Hermes_PTT_REG_070129.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\PP_PIE_Default.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\ShortString_Keypad_XML.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\SMS_Setting_07Jun06.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\SPM_Fix_ITS#2990.cab
CAB: \Extended_ROM\PP_XpressMail_launchCamera.cab
CAB: \Extended_ROM\ppcquickstart_QVGA.PPC_Draft_11-17.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\ST_Audio216Patch_20070409.CAB
None of these include the "music bloat" or start up screen.
One of the biggest advanatages of "Cooked Roms" is the stripping of the bloat. This is why cooked roms run faster and appear to be much more stable.
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It sounds like a little confusion is happening. I see where the guy (girl?) is coming from. when you run the .exe file from HTC's website, it installs a basic image. When the device reboots, a "Batch file" runs that goes through a bunch of pre-loaded cabs installing a lot of extra apps (bloat). What madmatt079 did in the past was, right before the device says "customizing your phone" he/she hit the soft reset. This interupted the "batch file" prohibiting the cabs from being installed. Though the cabs were sitting in the wings waiting, they were never executed resulting in less "icons" on the screens. But, this also keeps some of the cingular specific settings from taking hold.
I understand his un-willingness to install a baked ROM. Doing it his soft-reset way gives him a warm fuzzy when it comes to keeping the phone stock, but not really stock you know. I think the correct answer here is the search feature. Either that, or let the ROM go all the way through, wirte your setting down on paper, then redo the ROM and stop it mid stream. The stuff will be there, just not fully installed.
Good luck with it.
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Yeah, I figured that, and he's super lucky he didn't brick the phone. I had that happen to me doing what he did. Thankfully it was under warrenty and a new one was shipped a few days later.
I'm not going to comment on any one post in particular. However, there is no need to tell me to “try reading more”. This site is here for a purpose. Forgive me for not being an expert. That is exactly why I am here, so I can learn from the best.
As for those of you who have attempted to help me and offer me a starting point, thank you.
I now see what you are talking about regarding the soft resets and that the bloat is in fact included in the ROM (rofin44: I test upgrades against a second 8525 that is not on contract, but I need a stable build and that's why I usually go with official releases).
So instead of asking for more information on how to, I’d like to know which ROM you recommend for the Cingular 8525; preferably a basic ROM with no additional software but easy to install the settings needed from the Extended ROM. If that makes sense?
Thank you again.
Kaiser Rom
madmatt079 said:
Good afternoon, everyone. I am sure this have been covered before.
I own a Cingular 8525 and I am using the latest official release. I understand a new ROM will be released shortly and I'd like to know how to install the ROM without all the bloat that Cingular builds into it.
However, I need the custom settings, such as the settings for GPRS (I utilize Push) and other Cingular settings (such as TXT settings and voicemail) that are needed.
From what I gather you can soft reset before the custom installation, but that's where I need to know what to do to get the settings in place. I imagine from what I've read that this is easy but I can't find how others have done it.
Any help is greatly appreciated. I'd like to be able to print any help for future reference.
Thank you in advance.
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Please. You can send me this Rom, because I am with Kaiser locked in the screen three-colored and necessary of Rom Original that is same yours. Thank you very much.
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hmm
I honestly can not understand why you don't want to go to 'unofficial' release. The unofficial releases of 6.1 these days are just way better than the official ones. If you really want a semi official one you might want to try vp3g's ROM, however I am more than happy with CRC's.
My hermes only has 64 mb of RAM and 128 of ROM, I need the least amount of stuff in it yet I want stable so I can use it for my bizo. I have no need to have live search, as I don't live in the US, so I have a win win situation there.
Carriers make a good OS bad!
I would say CRC's v11.2 (v12.4 is faster, but there's glitches)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387990
If you want a faster phone at the cost of some ram, I would say put the pagepoll up to 8megs, ill stick the program for doing it onto the post.
Hello everyone:
I've tried everything, I've looked at the entire vibrantdump.zip, Eugene's vibrant4.zip, and the only thing I can find is the Sims launcher. I cannot find the apk for the entire game. I'm running Bionix 1.9 and it's great, but since I paid for the game when I got the phone, It'd be nice to get it back up and running. Can anyone help out? PM me if you have to, I'd really appreciate it.
Cheers =^)
m00n
m00nshake said:
Hello everyone:
I've tried everything, I've looked at the entire vibrantdump.zip, Eugene's vibrant4.zip, and the only thing I can find is the Sims launcher. I cannot find the apk for the entire game. I'm running Bionix 1.9 and it's great, but since I paid for the game when I got the phone, It'd be nice to get it back up and running. Can anyone help out? PM me if you have to, I'd really appreciate it.
Cheers =^)
m00n
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Lol, I have the sims .apk but not the launcher. Search for com.ideaworks3d.thesims3.apk and you will find what you're looking for.
Thanks!!!
Thanks!!! I'll give it a shot!
Ok... I got the .apk, installed it, and it plays, but the graphics are off. Alot of it just displays as white without showing the original texture and color. Any ideas?
Just flash the stock ROM and you will have it !
The_wolf88 said:
Just flash the stock ROM and you will have it !
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I agree. Reflash using odin and make a nandroid backup before deleting apps.
Ok, thanks for the replies, everyone. I know some of the stock roms out there have the bloatware removed, so does anyone have advice on which stock rom I can use that would get my phone back to factory stock with all the bloatware and hopefully will also includes the new OTA update. If you could point me to the right thread, I'd appreciate it. I'm not sure which one is the best to use for what I want to do.
I'm on Bionix 1.9 right now. I also noticed that The Sims and the Avatar launcher were removed. I never even played the Sims, but I figured I'd try it. The only thing I could think of to retrieve it was to nandroid back to stock, back up the .apk with Astro (titanium backup wasn't seeing it for some reason), nadroid back to Bionix, and then install it. That all worked out just fine. However, there seems to be no launcher for it. An dwhen you browse to the .apk in Astor, and try to "launch" it, it gives me this error:
activity not found - com.ideaworks3d.thesims3
Does anyone have any idea how to get it working again, after flashing a custom rom that removed it along with various other pre-installed apps? Thanks in advance.
Maybe along with the apk you need the 'data_tmo/games' directory that has the data files. That may be why your game runs but without the textures and graphics.
Link to fix
For anyone having this same issue (had this happen when I installed Obsidian 4.2) here is the fix:
http://www.thegadgetnista.com/samsung-vibrants-sims-3-collectors-edition-on-droid/
Step 1: Download the files listed.
Step 2: Install BOTH files.
Done.
m00nshake said:
Ok, thanks for the replies, everyone. I know some of the stock roms out there have the bloatware removed, so does anyone have advice on which stock rom I can use that would get my phone back to factory stock with all the bloatware and hopefully will also includes the new OTA update. If you could point me to the right thread, I'd appreciate it. I'm not sure which one is the best to use for what I want to do.
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unofficial official has it
Bigbass12 said:
For anyone having this same issue (had this happen when I installed Obsidian 4.2) here is the fix:
http://www.thegadgetnista.com/samsung-vibrants-sims-3-collectors-edition-on-droid/
Step 1: Download the files listed.
Step 2: Install BOTH files.
Done.
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This method works. Thanks!
worked on 2.2 rom, thank you so much !!
I got this Motorola/Symbol/Zebra MC40 from a yard sale, but it has some custom rom on it. I would like to unlock it's full potential. I have found a copy of both the Kitkat and Lollipop upgrade packages for this handheld, but from what I've read, I'm thinking that this might just upgrade the underlying OS and leave it in the custom state. I am looking for the [Full Factory Reset] package for it that is supposed to do a wipe/clean. The original file name is M40N0LXXXRW0000003.zip
Thanks.
May have one you can try
We're can I get it
rebeltaz said:
I got this Motorola/Symbol/Zebra MC40 from a yard sale, but it has some custom rom on it. I would like to unlock it's full potential. I have found a copy of both the Kitkat and Lollipop upgrade packages for this handheld, but from what I've read, I'm thinking that this might just upgrade the underlying OS and leave it in the custom state. I am looking for the [Full Factory Reset] package for it that is supposed to do a wipe/clean. The original file name is M40N0LXXXRW0000003.zip
Thanks.
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Did you ever figure this out i could really use this
ZachariahLambert1 said:
Did you ever figure this out i could really use this
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Send me an email at - rebeltaz at RobotsAndComputers dot com and I will send you the files and tell you how to do it.
If you just wish to reset to any of these 3 Enterprise Reset, Factory Reset or Full Factory Reset (with SD). And your system you are able to get into and pull up a program called "StageNow" I may be able to help. I have done all 3 on TC70 and a MC40. Without needing any .zip files. I do not post much so I am not sure I can post url but if anyone would like to try it let me know and I will try to attach it here or post a link.
You will need to open "Stagenow".
Your scanner function needs to work,
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If you just wish to reset to any of these 3 Enterprise Reset, Factory Reset or Full Factory Reset (with SD). And your system you are able to get into and pull up a program called "StageNow" I may be able to help. I have done all 3 on TC70 and a MC40. Without needing any .zip files. I do not post much so I am not sure I can post url but if anyone would like to try it let me know and I will try to attach it here or post a link.
You will need to open "Stagenow".
Your scanner function needs to work,