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Hi
Just wondering if anyone has made any new custom roms. I have looked so far as I can in the forums and I cant see a cooked rom from the kitchen for the hermes.
Would be nice to see if there is one superb one out there that would replace my rubbish t-mobile one!
Thanks
Phill
Right now everyone is using the 1.35 south africa released HTC rom with the latest imate 1.20 radio.
You first need to SIM/CID unlock your phone with pofs hacked radio rom (which you might need the slightly illegal bootleg bootloader downgrade from any version to 1.04 to accomplish)
then after that you can throw up 1.35 on your device, and use the aforementioned bootloader downgrade util to get down to BL1.04 to put the 1.20 radio rom only upgrade on.
Theres no cooked roms or kitchen ATM because the devices are locked to official roms only. Once someone figures out how to get around that its open season!
Unfortunately, due to encryption of the ROM, there are no custom "cooked" roms as of right now.
I am thinking of buying a Hermes however what is the latest AKU avaliable?
Hermes custom ROM cooking
All shipped Hermes bootloaders enforce signature checking on NBH files against an HTC private key, this is what is preventing the development of custom AKU3.x cooked ROMs on Hermes (and all other new HTC devices).
The SPL can be hacked to avoid this, but it will require some months of research... if anyone here has knowledge with disassemblers / debuggers such as IDA Pro or radare, embedded device bootloaders and ARM/Thumb assembly and is willing to help with this, feel free to contact me on this matter and we can work together
I can't give a real estimation of when this will be possible, because it depends on a lot of factors, but I'm sure we'll be able to do it in the future...
Anyway, I see a lot of people willing to have an AKU3.5 on its hermes, but haven't seen anyone willing to cook it himself on this community yet ... so we need people willing to cook Hermes ROMs first, otherwise the effort put in hacking the SPL is not worth it.
Do You Have Any Links To How To Cook Your Own Hermes ROM Pof? I Would Be Interested In Trying To Cook My Own ROM And If There Was A Turorial/Guide Telling People How To Do It I'm Sure That Many People Would Start Cooking Their Own ROM's.
Mousey
The tutorial does not exist because no one has done it yet, so if you investigate how to do it the first, you can do the tutorial.
A good starting point is having experience with ROM cooking on previous HTC devices, I don't want to discourage newbies in that area but it really helps a lot.
For the Hermes one must first learn how to extract ROM parts from NBH file, this is explained here.
Then one needs to be able to modify OS.nb to add/delete files and modules on it, I have no idea on how to do this on hermes "OS.nb" files... on previous devices one could convert NBF to NBA and use mamaich imgfs tools, but I don't know how to convert Hermes OS.nb into NBA to do it.... so this point should be where people willing to cook ROMs should have to start researching.
I myself never cooked a ROM for any previous device, but have used cooked ROMs in my old BlueAngel and Universal, and more-or-less understand how the cooking process works because I've read the relevant threads on this matter here... I am also not going to loose my time cooking ROMs for the Hermes at this point, because I believe it's more important to loose it in research to provide a way to flash this cooked ROMs once they exist, but we'll get things done faster if we work in parallel, that's why I ask the community to start the cooking research now, even we don't have a real solution to flash the cooked ROMs yet.
pof said:
All shipped Hermes bootloaders enforce signature checking on NBH files against an HTC private key, this is what is preventing the development of custom AKU3.x cooked ROMs on Hermes (and all other new HTC devices).
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Anyway, I see a lot of people willing to have an AKU3.5 on its hermes, but haven't seen anyone willing to cook it himself on this community yet ... so we need people willing to cook Hermes ROMs first, otherwise the effort put in hacking the SPL is not worth it.
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Once we have chance to USE cooked ROMs we will start cooking, right away... No point in starting to cook it if there is nobody who can eat it...
Zgembo said:
Once we have chance to USE cooked ROMs we will start cooking, right away...
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Once you have the chance to flash unsigned code, you'll need 3 months of research to be able to cook a ROM because nobody has investigated on the OS rom layout of the hermes... you'll only be able to flash your splash screen if you stay there sitting and waiting for someone else to do it, we're a community of developers, and what I am asking is to work in PARALLEL.
Zgembo said:
No point in starting to cook it if there is nobody who can eat it...
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OK, let's make it easy: Imagine hacking the SPL to flash unsigned code takes 3 months, and producing a flashable OS.nb with AKU 3.5 takes another 3 months.
"blue pill") 3 months to hack SPL + 3 months to produce cooked OS.nb == 6 Months to have your cooked AKU 3.5 on Hermes.
"red pill") 3 months a group of people researching on method to hack SPL and another group of people investigating how to produce cooked OS.nb == 3 months in total to have your AKU 3.5 on Hermes.
In the Matrix, which pill would you take, the red or the blue?
i would like a lethal dose red pills please
pof, is it just me or does it seem like no one else is interested? Seems like lots of people are interested in flashing a cooked rom, but doesnt seem like many people want to help get there
@shogunmark: yes
To make things easier I've just published a tool to extract the contents of NBH files, so people does not have to mess with perl:
NBHextract: Extract contents from NBH files
OS.nb can't be converted to a valid imgfs_raw_data.bin using mamaich prepare_imgfs.exe, I still don't know why. Theoretically it should be the same as a decoded nbf (or nba) file, but imgfs tools don't like hermes OS.nb
It would be great if anyone can have a look at it and point us in the right direction...
Oh pof and shogunmark,
you can belive, if I would have the knowledge I woul help you.
It's a nice tool to extract the .NBH and a good start to make things like romcooking. Thanks.
hi POF,
I've tried to run your tool but don't work.please let the world know about this software in order to reduce working time (from 3 months to 1,I hope)..
thanksss
pof said:
OS.nb can't be converted to a valid imgfs_raw_data.bin using mamaich prepare_imgfs.exe, I still don't know why. Theoretically it should be the same as a decoded nbf (or nba) file, but imgfs tools don't like hermes OS.nb
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Weird, I was using HTC 1.35 rom to do the tests, and was unable to get a imgfs_raw_data.bin bigger than 7Mb.
I have just tried with HTC 1.18 rom, and I could dump OS.nb without problems
Code:
C:\imgfs_tools>prepare_imgfs.exe OS.nb -acer
Searching for IMGFS start... Found at 00659000
Dumping IMGFS ...
Done!
C:\mgfs_tools>dir imgfs*
14/01/2007 09:11 53.215.232 imgfs_raw_data.bin
14/01/2007 09:09 0 imgfs_removed_data.bin
C:\imgfs_tools>viewimgfs.exe imgfs_raw_data.bin
Probably OS.nb has a different layout on newer Hermes ROMs... will have to investigate that!
warrio said:
I've tried to run your tool but don't work
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which problem do you have? it must be run from command line...
after download I tried to run exe file but appears a window with "impossible to run application configuration file not correct try to download again"..
maybe I wrong something..
warrio said:
after download I tried to run exe file but appears a window with "impossible to run application configuration file not correct try to download again"..
maybe I wrong something..
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Hi
The way, I've testet the tool is the following:
1.unzip the NBHextract folder to c:
2. put the .NBH you want to extract in that folder.
3. go to the commad-console and switch to folder "NBHextract"
4. type"NBHextract.exe HERMING.nbh -v" now the tool extracts the content.
It's easy .
Weird, I was using HTC 1.35 rom to do the tests, and was unable to get a imgfs_raw_data.bin bigger than 7Mb.
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It's the same problem with the german O2 Update
thank you scorpio16v
Ok 2 Questions.
1.
I Tried Running The Program On An NBH File I Downloaded But I Got An Error.
C:\>NBHextract.exe test.nbh -v
The system cannot execute the specified program.
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2.
Most/All Of The Updates I Download Come In .exe Format, How Do I Get An NBH File From The Exe.
Finally. With You Being Able To Extract The OS.nb File Pof Does That Mean In Theory We Can Cook Roms From The Older (1.18) Roms?
Cheers
Mousey
Where can i find those development tools to upgrade O2 atom wm5 to wm6?
No sorrow to try myself.
tuhintt said:
Where can i find those development tools to upgrade O2 atom wm5 to wm6?
No sorrow to try myself.
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search for the following:
pkgtool.exe (package tool by bepe)
xipport.exe (xip editor by bepe)
imgfs tools (imgfs partition by mamaich)
Scoter Kitchen (ROM cooker with lots of built-in tools)
hex editor (AXE)
File comparer (ExamDiff)
rom update utility (by serialzs)
I hope that in your journey, we can collaborate and develop wm6 for Xda Atom.
Good Luck!
Jiggs
Thanks. I don’t realize lots of things i need to develop. But it doesn’t scare me, only one thing scare me is the time. Anyway, is there any Help/Documentation on this? Just have some Clue from where to start.
tuhintt said:
Thanks. I don’t realize lots of things i need to develop. But it doesn’t scare me, only one thing scare me is the time. Anyway, is there any Help/Documentation on this? Just have some Clue from where to start.
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The only documentation we have is this forum. So make use of the search function by google using advance options and change the site to forum.xda-developers.com
for starters, you need to learn to cook a ROM. then you learn to port a ROM.
good luck!
Jiggs
Hi all,
I made this manual in order to help people like myself to better understand ROM cooking basics.
It was ment to be used for Prophet ROMs, but since it uses HyperCore Kitchen, it can be practicaly used for any WM6 ROM.
Please be free to post your comments and/or suggestions.
NOTE: This manual reffers only to "old" way of ROM cooking (first downgrading to WM5, and then flashing to WM6)
If you find it useful, please vote.
Thanks to:
Gullum (for great ROMs)
Anichillus (for great Kitchen)
Cloudyfa (for Step1 ROM)
phnikola said:
Hi all,
I made this manual in order to help people like myself to better understand ROM cooking basics. Hope you will find it useful.
It was ment to be used for Prophet ROMs, but since it uses HyperCore Kitchen, it can be practicaly used for any WM6 ROM.
Please be free to post your comments and/or suggestions.
Thanks!
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No, thank you!! I will look into it.
me too
i like this
Thanks for your effort, this is a really good guide.
I just wanted to ask is there a difference between ROMs built this way and ROMs that we flash using new Hard/SoftSPL method.
I saw nb2nbf tool, so is it possible to just convert OS.nb file and flash it using new method or is there some more work that needs to be done?
thank you
I really need it !
Ill check it out this weekend! Seems like fun to me
I have red this guide and it is very clear, very thourough and a big help to anyone starting to cook! THANKS!!
(@ allothers that are missing some extra's: it is NOT an advanced course! So, don't complain but take an example and publish your own knowledge and experience this way. Then everyone can benefit)
Initiatives like these are giving back the original gaoal of this website, it isn't called "xda-developers" for nothing.
Perhaps someone can make a tutorial for skinning standard OS-parts (commanager, dialer, calculator, etc...) Or how to translate your favorite ROM to your own language?
you can't use this way to create XIP from Shadow's ROM, Crystal V5. ROM or from Korand's ROM.
If someone can make this XIP.. Could anyone share the file...
with that file. I can make a new ROM based on new OS..
varanusvincent said:
you can't use this way to create XIP from Shadow's ROM, Crystal V5. ROM or from Korand's ROM.
If someone can make this XIP.. Could anyone share the file...
with that file. I can make a new ROM based on new OS..
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Never flashed any of these ROMs you specified - so if their XIPs can't be dumped using Dump XIP tool from the HyperCore Kitchen, than I won't bother with them. Let me add that ROM cooker can also remove RGU files from ROM before posting, making it very difficult for someone to modify it. Then I'll skip such ROM too.
But...
FACTS
- This manual was intended for beginners.
- When you are a beginner in ROM cooking you don't like to be confused, but want it all to be clear to you before you do anything to your expensive device.
- I see that you are using modified Touch ROM, which can be dumped with this method.
- I also use modified Touch ROM, but I will not post it - there is enough good ROMs out there already
Cheers!
Hi All - my first post
Thanks for this Phnikola, I'm brand new to all this (smartphone) stuff and need a place to start. Looks good so far.
My TC500 never was in the shops, has no support and no official upgrade path (hmmm...) but there are a few cunning points concerning SIP and home landline "awareness" in the original ROM I'd like to take with me up into WM6.1 (got Cloudyfa's Shadow 2.0 TE ready to go).
Any1 have any good advice for me?
Thanks again
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TC500 G4 HTC Prophet
IPL: 2.58.0001
SPL: 2.58.0001
GSM: 02.19.21
OS: 2.58.20.21
Work on dopod 818 pro wm 5?
i want to upgrade rom and wm6
thanks...
black_shadow69 said:
Work on dopod 818 pro wm 5?
i want to upgrade rom and wm6
thanks...
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Yes it does, but you don't have to cook your own ROM. Just wonder around a bit on this forum and pick a ROM that suits you.
Dear phnikola
Thanks a lot for such nice guide... I was trying to use HyperCore kitchen for last 4 hrs but was not able to pass step 1 of extractiong Os.nb
Your guide is really good & helpful
hi phnikola,
just wanna said that nice guide n great contribution. Maybe more images would help the word "for beginners", hope in your next version of manual..
your contribution really apprieciated...
thanks
clustered said:
Maybe more images would help the word "for beginners", hope in your next version of manual..
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believe me..if one just read this guise patiently.. he won't find any need for pictures...
I was complete beginner.. and this really helped me in extracting 2 ROMS and cooking a customized taking best from boths.
hellow sir i want to make sure if my pda is G3 pls.. Reply
IPL:1.00
SPL 2.g3.4pda
GSM 01.13.20
OS 7.0.0.7
ok i think many many many of us might be having this query in our minds but no one (surprisingly) has asked this question yet...
it all made sense that ppl were asking for WM6 ROM ports for the Atom life when actually there was an official ROM....
(PPL said it didn make sense... and yes i very much agree that it sure didnt)
but recently i saw the WM Kernel 6.1 Demo and have been in love wit ever since....
Will any of the great souls of this forum be PORTING the WM6.1 to the ATOM LIFE any time Soon...?
Forgive me if this question has been asked befor (i searched for it in this section but failed)
waiting for a reply
TAKE CARE & GOD BLESS
outkasted said:
ok i think many many many of us might be having this query in our minds but no one (surprisingly) has asked this question yet...
it all made sense that ppl were asking for WM6 ROM ports for the Atom life when actually there was an official ROM....
(PPL said it didn make sense... and yes i very much agree that it sure didnt)
but recently i saw the WM Kernel 6.1 Demo and have been in love wit ever since....
Will any of the great souls of this forum be PORTING the WM6.1 to the ATOM LIFE any time Soon...?
Forgive me if this question has been asked befor (i searched for it in this section but failed)
waiting for a reply
TAKE CARE & GOD BLESS
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it's actually for SP not PPC. see this thread
let's pray for it
it seems that the demo is for SP only but it seems down right STU**D for MS to not release the Update for the PPC... the latter being the high end in both hardware and OS...
so i'm pretty sure that it is in the offing in the not so distant future ;-)
m8 and i found this screenshot from one of the BA ROMs posted in the respective forum sections...
what bout this is it some srta joke..?
I dont think PDAViet group makes fun of themselves anyway.
But you never know there are ways to change the build and version number.
unless there is a better verification rather than just build number, it's just gonna be hard. Maybe someone could be check some of dll file version
imatrix said:
I dont think PDAViet group makes fun of themselves anyway.
But you never know there are ways to change the build and version number.
unless there is a better verification rather than just build number, it's just gonna be hard. Maybe someone could be check some of dll file version
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totally agree! it's easy to fake such numbers. even good ol MS paint can easily do the trick!
I have ported the new wm6.1 to atom life ,and it run quite stable and the speed is faster than wm6.
but It has two bugs:1.I have ported the wm6.1 XIP to life except 3 files,so the XIP version could't show properly
2.wm6.1 implement new sms program,and if you use the reset button
to restart the phone,then your lately sms and phone record will lose,so the only solution is using some software to soft-rest the phone.
the download link is here:http://www.pdaclan.com/thread-6318-1-1.html
this version is chinese version,and I HOPE someone can translate it to english or maybe IF i Have spare time I will do it.
THANKS FOR reading my poor english.
Nice ROM
How did you change the bootscreens ? If I extract the original screens from XIP, I only can open it with Windows Paint.
I never figured out how to change them.
It looks good and seems fast, but unfortunately I can't read chinese.
What's the difference between the first al1.dio and the new one ?
WM61. for PPC is Available
brian_2cool4u said:
it's actually for SP not PPC. see this thread
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Hi brian_2cool4u,
WM6.1 PPC version is released.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=363590
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=363637
This may not be the final production version. But it surely is out there.
mallik_raj said:
Hi brian_2cool4u,
WM6.1 PPC version is released.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=363590
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=363637
This may not be the final production version. But it surely is out there.
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wow! I spoke too soon!!! hehehehehe. well, if it's true that WM6.1 is out already, there is no need to rush things and jump to 6.1 this early. IMO there are still some bugs to be fixed in our WM6 right we can then finalize WM6 first, to become very fast and stable. before leaping into WM6.1 that i'll bet a grand full of bugs! hehehehe
scorpio16v said:
Nice ROM
How did you change the bootscreens ? If I extract the original screens from XIP, I only can open it with Windows Paint.
I never figured out how to change them.
It looks good and seems fast, but unfortunately I can't read chinese.
What's the difference between the first al1.dio and the new one ?
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Change the bootscreens is easy,and I hope you can understand what I explain:1.as you said,you should extract the original screens from XIP,2.you should EDIT IT using photoshop,you can open two files,one is the bootscreens file ,the other is the one you want to be your
bootscreens,and then you should copy the other image then paste it to the bootscreens file,3.when all these is done,you can merge Layer of the bootscreens file and make sure that the file size is 153,672byes,and then you can replace the file in XIP and use xipport to build the new XIP.
the difference between the first al1.dio and the new one is the first has implement the new xip from the original 9000 wm6.1 rom ,but it couldn't show the version numbers:5.2.19195,instead, it show 5.2.18120.Meanwhile,it's pure edition, THE new one's XIP is from the p800 wm6.1 ROM,but I think the XIP is faked because I have compare it to the 18538 XIP and found out most of the files are the same.but THE new one can show the version numbers:5.2.19195.That's it.
QQ108108, are you okay?
I'm trying to translate, without success, your ROM, but I'm a noobie and need.
If you give me some directions, I can keep trying to do it.
Hugs,
Nalvio
Please do your best we are waiting anxiously for this rom.
Thanks
and here are the two upcoming MWg phones which are supposed to officially have the WM6.1
;-)
the future is [email protected]!
outkasted said:
and here are the two upcoming MWg phones which are supposed to officially have the WM6.1
;-)
the future is [email protected]!
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It would be easier to port WM6.1 to our beloved atoms
qq108108108 said:
Change the bootscreens is easy,and I hope you can understand what I explain:1.as you said,you should extract the original screens from XIP,2.you should EDIT IT using photoshop,you can open two files,one is the bootscreens file ,the other is the one you want to be your
bootscreens,and then you should copy the other image then paste it to the bootscreens file,3.when all these is done,you can merge Layer of the bootscreens file and make sure that the file size is 153,672byes,and then you can replace the file in XIP and use xipport to build the new XIP.
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How to get the original bootscreen from XIP?
How to replace the new image in XIP?
Is it the same with Atom/Atom Exec in nk.exe/S000?where is the first byte in hex of image in S000?
More, I found BooScr.bmp in ATOM LIFE KITCHEN\TOOLS\OUT\FILES\OEMXIPKERNEL after run XIPPort. That file size 153,672bytes, Is it right?
brian_2cool4u said:
It would be easier to port WM6.1 to our beloved atoms
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GODSPEED
&
HALLELUJAH
nhathoa said:
How to get the original bootscreen from XIP?
How to replace the new image in XIP?
Is it the same with Atom/Atom Exec in nk.exe/S000?where is the first byte in hex of image in S000?
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It's easy to get the original bootscreen,just use xipport to dump the original XIP,then you will find BootScr.bmp in /out/files,and the method to replace the new image in XIP I have explain in the previous post.
I think that it's not the same as Atom/Atom Exec,because I can't find anything like image files in Atom/Atom Exec XIP.
BTW,TO my atom life,replacing the new image in xip do not need to EDIT nk.exe/S000.
nalvio said:
QQ108108, are you okay?
I'm trying to translate, without success, your ROM, but I'm a noobie and need.
If you give me some directions, I can keep trying to do it.
Hugs,
Nalvio
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It's not difficult to translate the rom,All I need is wwe rom,and the wwe SYS from the other device,and I can make a wwe wm6.1 rom, but now I'm dealing with the most difficult part:XIP,maybe when I finish this part,I will make a wwe rom for your guys.SO now you just need to wait or try to make one by yourself.
btw,I am a chinese with poor english,so I don't think I can give you a clear directions.Sorry.
i whas wondering ive some one is cooking roms for oure phone
now hspl is released
with my other phone there where already roms before the hspl whas released
and here hspl is out for a couple of days but nowhere roms for the phone
I think there are some. But need some time to prepare and test them.
I' m cooking myself and I already have some workable roms. Right now I have wm6.5 with mega packages on my device. But there are thinks to be fixed and needed skills and knowledge that I haven't. I'm new to this, and there are a lot of informations here, but difficult to find and most difficult to read and understand, if you don't know very good english, and I don't.
I can post my roms if some want to play and test them.
But I don't know if I can fix thinks that don't work. For warranded good roms, needed to wait the experts.
sure i will test it
and a suggestion first make a normal rom and try to make that one flawless and then add the megapacket
and for questions there are enough great cooks here on xda
try to contact one of them that speaks youre language maybe they can help
Thanks for the suggestions.
I'm uploading right now 2 roms for testing. There are normal with Iolite stuf with updated XIP & SYS. As soon as links are ready I will post them(maybe in next hour).
They seem quite stable, I didn't test them a lot cause I'm trying to make another with mega packages. I try to fix some problems with ezinput, audio manager and commanager. Other things seems to work fine.
Here are the links:
WM6.1 test (XIP&SYS 21054)
http://rapidshare.com/files/273479214/WWE_WM6.1_XIP_SYS_21054.rar
WM6.5 test (XIP&SYS 23016)
http://rapidshare.com/files/273470663/WWE_wm_6.5_23016_XIP_SYS.rar
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is it possible to make a dutch nbh to from the dump that is on page 3
for ive i want to change back to my originel dutch ive i need it for warranty
ive this is possible can you make the files to a nbh and upload it or me please?
hope this is possible or maybe you know a site that has the dutch iolite rom
Soon i'll publish WM 6.1 custom rom for Iolite. I got device only today.