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I need to downgrade my radio from v1.48.00.00 to v1.41.00.10. Is it possible to do this, or is downgrading out of the question. The reason I want to is because I got MUCH better performance out of the older version than the new one.
FYI:
ROM: Black Satin Normal WM6
Current Radio: 1.48.00.00
Protocol Version: 32.81.7070.20H
SPL: Olipro v2.10
I did some searches of the forum, but couldn't find anything relevant, and MR VANX's site doesn't seem to have anything specifically with regards to downgrading only the radio of the PPC.
I'd appreciate any quick responses you all can provide. Thanks!
Can I DOWNGRADE my Radio
The short answer "YES"............
The long answer........ "READ"......... "READ"........"READ".........
Although this has become much easier and SAFER thanks to many wonderful and intelligent people on these boards, IT IS NOT something that you should undertake if YOU DON'T KNOW the answer to your own question.........
A BIG HINT.......take a look at MrVanx's guides......the wiki...... and the "radio only".......upgrade forums, guides, etc......
The Answers are OUT THERE.....................all you have to do IS FIND THEM!!!!!!
I've flashed a lot of ROMS......I'm no techie by any stretch of the imagination, however I ALWAYS....read, check, double check & check again. to ensure I have a pretty good understanding of what to expect, what to do if something goes wrong.....etc.....
Not flaming you......but I am strongly encouraging you to get the wisdom, BEFORE you jump of the CLIFF.................grasshopper!!!!!!!!!
Good Luck,
vpu2....OUT!!!!
kssxs said:
I need to downgrade my radio from v1.48.00.00 to v1.41.00.10. Is it possible to do this, or is downgrading out of the question. The reason I want to is because I got MUCH better performance out of the older version than the new one.
FYI:
ROM: Black Satin Normal WM6
Current Radio: 1.48.00.00
Protocol Version: 32.81.7070.20H
SPL: Olipro v2.10
I did some searches of the forum, but couldn't find anything relevant, and MR VANX's site doesn't seem to have anything specifically with regards to downgrading only the radio of the PPC.
I'd appreciate any quick responses you all can provide. Thanks!
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Yes , you can downgrade your radio rom like a normal upgrade.
Ciao
Imdantes
What didn't you like about the 1.48 rom? I went from the official cingular radio to 1.48 and I notice better reception and TERRIBLE battery life. I seem to get about half the battery life that I did pre 1.48. I have the same apps that I have had with both radios.
imdantes said:
Yes , you can downgrade your radio rom like a normal upgrade.
Ciao
Imdantes
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So I can just run the updater for the v1.41.00.10 radio version and downgrade that way without worrying about it catastrophically killing my phone?
Oh, and I want to go back to the older version because I found that I would get signal drops where I previously had signal and could make calls. I would also more frequently get the signal tower and ! mark, and not be able to make calls at all. I also noticed power draining MUCH faster than before. I thought that might be caused by the new Satin ROM I was using, but I'm glad to find out it might be caused by the radio upgrade.
So is it just a normal downgrade by running the updater executable?
imdantes said:
Yes , you can downgrade your radio rom like a normal upgrade.
Ciao
Imdantes
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But becareful of HTC_Bootloader, since from 1.38 to 1.48 are still 0108
so it's free to up or downgrade.
Once it has been changed, then we might not be able to do that again.
Pls correct me if I am wrong.
kinghung said:
But becareful of HTC_Bootloader, since from 1.38 to 1.48 are still 0108
so it's free to up or downgrade.
Once it has been changed, then we might not be able to do that again.
Pls correct me if I am wrong.
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Yeah it would be nice to find out definitively, since I'm sure none of us want to see that 'GSM not found' or some such error...
Can anyone answer with any sort of confidence (even just confirming imdantes's post above would be good).
Thanks!
Of course if you like.
The bootloader can't be downgraded as of now.
I'm an unfortunate victim of this little issue.. my X01HT extended ROM had a radio version of 1.14 listed, but some bogus bootloader version much higher than anything released currently.
Now I'm stuck with an inferior radio version and can do nothing about it due to the bootloader that I can't downgrade.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=301952
This is the thread I got most of this information from, pretty logical.
kssxs said:
Yeah it would be nice to find out definitively, since I'm sure none of us want to see that 'GSM not found' or some such error...
Can anyone answer with any sort of confidence (even just confirming imdantes's post above would be good).
Thanks!
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If you have SPL 2.1o Olipro then you are relatively safe in undertaking this task. I have downgraded from 1.48 to 1.47.10 when i was trying to solve some problems.
You really need to read this: http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/
WB
pcm2a said:
What didn't you like about the 1.48 rom? I went from the official cingular radio to 1.48 and I notice better reception and TERRIBLE battery life. I seem to get about half the battery life that I did pre 1.48. I have the same apps that I have had with both radios.
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Exact same thing here. Which is why I tried 1.50 (a LOT better battery life and voice quality, pretty much the same reception though).
Memnoch30 said:
Exact same thing here. Which is why I tried 1.50 (a LOT better battery life and voice quality, pretty much the same reception though).
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I also experienced 1.48 drains much more power than other version of radio.
(almost 50% more)
Since Radio 1.50 is still 0108, I might give it a try!
I just extracted the radio 1.47.51.00 from the htc x7501 wm6 rom and packaged it so it only flashes the radio only. Please ensure if you want to use make sure your device is hardspl which you can find here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315831
I have flashed it twice now and both times without no probs only set back is that after the radio upgrade your device will hard reset and have to set up device again. I am using this radio with the latest dopod wm6 upgrade now.
Thanks to lpsi2000 for his help as well.
Link:
http://rapidshare.com/files/46782246/Radio_version_1.38.00.00.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/46178379/Radio_version_1.45.00.00.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/45614693/Radio_version_1.47.51.00.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/52469650/Radio_version_1.50.00.00.zip
Benefits?
duttythroy said:
I just extracted the radio 1.47.51.00 from the htc x7501 wm6 rom and packaged it so it only flashes the radio only. Please ensure if you want to use make sure your device is hardspl which you can find here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315831
I have flashed it twice now and both times without no probs only set back is that after the radio upgrade your device will hard reset and have to set up device again. I am using this radio with the latest dopod wm6 upgrade now.
Thanks to lpsi2000 for his help as well.
Link:
http://rapidshare.com/files/45614693/Radio_version_1.47.51.00.rar
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Hey Dutty.
Nice work. Can you tell us what benefits are derived from this upgrade please...that you have noticed. Cheers in advance.
mackaby007 said:
Hey Dutty.
Nice work. Can you tell us what benefits are derived from this upgrade please...that you have noticed. Cheers in advance.
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hi mate just come back in from the club I havent tested it as much but will forward my results as soon as i noticed any differences
testing after the club, oh boy let me put my seat belt on
duttythroy said:
hi mate just come back in from the club I havent tested it as much but will forward my results as soon as i noticed any differences
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I bet your club doesn't do Guinness at £1.50 a pint.
if you haven't CID unlocked already (or if you have) if this has a new radio bootloader, (0108) your CID will be stuck from now on.
then again, it might not, I'll report back in the morning
Olipro said:
I bet your club doesn't do Guinness at £1.50 a pint.
if you haven't CID unlocked already (or if you have) if this has a new radio bootloader, (0108) your CID will be stuck from now on.
then again, it might not, I'll report back in the morning
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hi olipro, sPl hasnt changed still the same faithful SPL-V1.20.Olipro hardspl when you go into bootloader as i just extract the radio.nb itself and repackaged it. Let me know anyway
cheers.
Guiness is £2.50 a pint
lpsi2000 said:
testing after the club, oh boy let me put my seat belt on
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lol your still at the club, im putting my seat belt on now to drive my misses to heaven
hello i have the htc x7500 with this new radio, it instaled ok after i unlocked the radio in htc, but can anyone tell me for what does the "radio" is usefull? i dont know much about this maters thanks a lot
the "radio" is for telephony, sms, gprs connections ...
mojo2000 said:
the "radio" is for telephony, sms, gprs connections ...
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ha ok thank you a tough it would enhance the speed of processing information by the cpu, now i understand
update
1st post updated with radio 1.45.00.00
I have been using the 1.47.51.00 radio and so far not much difference between them although I think radio 1.45.00.00 has got a better 3g signal and vice versal with radio 1.45.00.00 has got a better gsm signal.
Both radios has got similar battery life in my own opinion and to fairly say that both radios are really good in terms of overall use with the athena
duttythroy said:
1st post updated with radio 1.45.00.00
I have been using the 1.47.51.00 radio and so far not much difference between them although I think radio 1.45.00.00 has got a better 3g signal and vice versal with radio 1.45.00.00 has got a better gsm signal.
Both radios has got similar battery life in my own opinion and to fairly say that both radios are really good in terms of overall use with the athena
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Thanks for the feedback dutty.
Olipro said:
I bet your club doesn't do Guinness at £1.50 a pint.
if you haven't CID unlocked already (or if you have) if this has a new radio bootloader, (0108) your CID will be stuck from now on.
then again, it might not, I'll report back in the morning
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Any word Olipro?
duttythroy said:
1st post updated with radio 1.45.00.00
I have been using the 1.47.51.00 radio and so far not much difference between them although I think radio 1.45.00.00 has got a better 3g signal and vice versal with radio 1.45.00.00 has got a better gsm signal.
Both radios has got similar battery life in my own opinion and to fairly say that both radios are really good in terms of overall use with the athena
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And compared to the original 1.38.00.00 Radio, did you or somebody else have the chance to try it?? so he can post his feedback
Cheers
update
update added radio 1.38.00.00 only
Update radio only
Excuse me that he has only to replace the radio(1.45 -> 1.47), for me RUU with mistake 220 that is stopping ...
I dont understand
Question.
Before i go ahead and update (or use midgets hotly anticipated cooked ROM), does this X7501 radio ROM include the Video calling functions, or would that be the main ROM that includes that?
rhedgehog said:
Question.
Before i go ahead and update (or use midgets hotly anticipated cooked ROM), does this X7501 radio ROM include the Video calling functions, or would that be the main ROM that includes that?
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I have been using the x7501 radio rom thats in my sig and tested it with video call and it works, not that I have used it that much.
Cheers D.
I would assume then that the Radio ROM supports it, it may just be that the Main ROM has had those functions removed for the X7501.
I'll give it a go. Hopefully it will stop the problems I get when leaving a 3G area. Every time I do, i get no signal for around 10 seconds while it latches on to the 2G signal.
Of course, it could just be that T-mobile have crappy transmitters in my area.....
******WARNING YOU MUST HAVE THE UNLOCKER APPLIED**************
I have SPL3.5 and managed to extract the Radio from Taxists latest Rom , which I believe is from the 7510'
It worked for me so here it is if you are game
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/hy0rbt03imoov3i/U4pyCBWP_o/Athena Stuff/radio-1.58
I used Duttys NBH tool that Irus has linked on the WM6 page
This rom seems to work well on SPL 1.2 and 3.5
Some Roms wont show the H icon eg michyprimas (see here for solution) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2447327&postcount=3
There is also a guide to errors you might receive in a text file included in the rom, that I got from one of the AP4 installations
** adition October 2008 **
Unfortunately Video call is not playing nicely with this radio
I have had to revert to Radio 1.57 to get it working again
Thanks mate.
Will try this out soon.
So far, I'm only observing the data connection capability, and noted that the H icons stay there all the time, so internet and email connections no longer has a lag. In other word, both internet and email seems faster with this radio.
I hope this behaviour is stable. Let's continue to observe and see how it goes.
eaglesteve said:
So far, I'm only observing the data connection capability, and noted that the H icons stay there all the time, so internet and email connections no longer has a lag. In other word, both internet and email seems faster with this radio.
I hope this behaviour is stable. Let's continue to observe and see how it goes.
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Glad you found it and I look forward to your assessment
how can I install this on an spl 1.2 system.
tovarish said:
how can I install this on an spl 1.2 system.
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The same as a ROM flash.
It will hard reset, so backup first before upgrading.
Anyone from the US running this radio? is it better than the previous, does it improve battery life/reception/etc?
I would be interested to know if anyone here in the USA has tried this version, On the AT&T network in particular. (I have the 1.57.00 radio currently on US AT&T and it works very well, very rapid Sat Lock on too)
Cheers
BR
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how can I install this on an spl 1.2 system.
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Hi tovarish.
To be sure , I checked the contents of the file and they are the same as in any 1.2 SPL upgrade.
There is also a file walking you through the process and explains any error messages you might get and their solution.
Lenny and Brau, this is the same radio as in taxists latest rom so if any US members have tried it it should work.
I think irus has used it.
Why don't you give it a try and report what you think.
Eaglesteve usually gives a good opinion and workout of apps he tries but of course he is in australia.
I've experienced radio has been excellent and rapid
Toronto based user
All is well with 1.58 Radio, Im using it 2 hours now and I notice the phone's signal bars is always 100%
Im using it with 1.2 spl WM6.1 WWE 1.60 MiChY Full Edition
rvnteck said:
All is well with 1.58 Radio, Im using it 2 hours now and I notice the phone's signal bars is always 100%
Im using it with 1.2 spl WM6.1 WWE 1.60 MiChY Full Edition
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Great to hear it works for a fellow torontite!
still no one from US used this radio?
lennie said:
still no one from US used this radio?
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Why not try out yourself?It is so easy and involves so little effort and time.
- backup using sprite
- flash the new radio and test
- if there is improvement, restore. If not, flash back old radio and restore.
Done.
eaglesteve said:
Why not try out yourself?It is so easy and involves so little effort and time.
- backup using sprite
- flash the new radio and test
- if there is improvement, restore. If not, flash back old radio and restore.
Done.
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the thing is its not hard to do so, its just that I didn't want to "re-create the wheel", in other words if someone tried it already and it worked or didn't work they could easily relay that info so other's wouldn't have to do it.
I will relay that info so other's in the US won't have to "re-create the wheel": this radio doesn't work in the US. you can try it for yourself, but it didnt' work for me.
My 2 Cents
lennie said:
the thing is its not hard to do so, its just that I didn't want to "re-create the wheel", in other words if someone tried it already and it worked or didn't work they could easily relay that info so other's wouldn't have to do it.
I will relay that info so other's in the US won't have to "re-create the wheel": this radio doesn't work in the US. you can try it for yourself, but it didnt' work for me.
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While I have not yet tested all radio functions, I can say that it does work on US AT&T. I have not noticed any major diff from Radio v1.57.00 for me (your results may differ from mine, based on carrier & area you live).
Cheers
BR
lennie said:
the thing is its not hard to do so, its just that I didn't want to "re-create the wheel", in other words if someone tried it already and it worked or didn't work they could easily relay that info so other's wouldn't have to do it.
I will relay that info so other's in the US won't have to "re-create the wheel": this radio doesn't work in the US. you can try it for yourself, but it didnt' work for me.
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It certainly works in the US, on at&t anyway. No differences from 1.57 at all for me.
Thank you for this, I shall give it a try once ive backed up and reflashed. Do we know anything about it? Battery? Signal?
All the best
Jay
I had a slight improvement over radio v1.57.00 in weak areas
Brau0303 said:
While I have not yet tested all radio functions, I can say that it does work on US AT&T. I have not noticed any major diff from Radio v1.57.00 for me (your results may differ from mine, based on carrier & area you live).
Cheers
BR
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wow really, I had no luck with this radio, I'm on AT&T too.
I'll give it a try again.....and I'm feeling I'm gonna have the same result as I had before.....
See my post in the 1.58 radio thread for some interesting findings after I ran some tests on the new 1.58 radio. Even if you've decided to leave your Athena stock, you need to make this upgrade.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2447473&postcount=38
bull****.
as usuall I using 1.38.00.00
I have as 3G and H (HSDPA) where my provider have a cover in this area.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Speed_Downlink_Packet_Access
wiki your help!
You prove your ignorance.
Sure the other versions support 3G/H. Ive used 1.47, 1.50, 1.57 and now 1.58 and yes they support high-speed protocols.
If you actually read my post in the other thread you would see I said that 1.58 does high-speed much faster than the other radio versions and has much higher sensitivity thresholds.
But you were too busy being self-important... and wrong ... to do that. Enjoy your far-slower radio version.
I am using 1.58 and for the first time in my athena owner life I an having really fast UPLOAD. PLUS I have 3G coverage in the same places where I had 2G before (inside my home, inside my office and it is hard to believe they changed the cell in both places at the same time).
In some other places I have HSUPA coverage too http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Speed_Uplink_Packet_Access
The overall feeling is also a fast download. I think download does not start until it receives the request of the upload. That's why I noticed it right away for surfing and mail reading. I normally download only a small portion of the mail, and if I want it I click to download the rest. With previous radio, the waiting time to get the rest was noticeably longer.
It's good having someone actually measure the improvement. Thanks techntrek.
Glad to post the numbers. I would be interested in seeing numbers from others (before and after).
New all-time best speed, yesterday. Previously my best was 983 kbps. Now it is 1169 kbps.
wow.
Hi
I get a message that the file is corrupted (#270) I came to 7%, then the device resets.
Any suggestions
Hans
Try to re-download the installer.
Hi
Did that twice. Are going to try again tomorrow
Hans
Are you fully unlocked?
Hi, Still no luck. Maybe a stupied question but what do you meen about unlocked? I can use my x7500 with any "phonecompany" that I want. I don´t have to use someone special.
Hans
Unless you have specifically run olipro's unlocking software you are only sim unlocked. His software takes away the remaining locks, such as the one that allows you to install non-factory roms (such as the radio rom). Look in the "hard-spl..." thread in this sub-forum.
I will do that, thanks for your help
Hans
Recently I flashed my radio from 1.50 to 1.58 and I must say it is a lot better! I get HSDPA at all times now where before it would occasionally swap between Edge, 3G and H now it stays solid H all the time and goes to Edge only where there is really no 3G available.
I also noticed that at home for example. I always got a very weak H signal, but after the upgrade I get two bars at all times, also tested with Skype, seems to run smoother and I don't get as many disconnected calls as before.
I suggest everybody should upgrade the radio, it is well worth it!
michyprima r4 radio 1.58
x7501 running michy's r4 with radio 1.58, can rec calls or mms, infact the speed is great when it works, but stability has gone way down, i've seen a lot of people using connex to go back to 1.2spl and then using 2.04d with r1.58. i was wondering if people could post what roms they are using that they see good stability with.
My SPL is 1.2 and the stock rom WM6. I see a huge performance differance with this radio over 1.50, no stability issuses at all.
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i was wondering if people could post what roms they are using that they see good stability with.
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AP4, no difference with older radios or this one - all stable.
Michi's V4 SPL 1.2 and 1.58. Coming from stock and stock WM6 there is a good performance increase in radio, typically at least 1 more bar wherever I am and no stability issues.
Ok, so I have searched and read thru the current radio treads. But havent seen much on 2.41.04.02.02, which i currently have. But my signal is not to great in Brooklyn. Should I try to flash to a different radio, and if so which one? Can you go down, or only flash up? Thx
Radio Search
It was about 3 pages back in the thread July Radio?, This is the radio from the Verizon 2.1 OTA update back in July. I can't attest to how well it will work but since it is the most recent radio that Verizon has issued I would assume it should be good 2 go.
July OTA Radio Post-XDA
alphawolf36 said:
Ok, so I have searched and read thru the current radio treads. But havent seen much on 2.41.04.02.02, which i currently have. But my signal is not to great in Brooklyn. Should I try to flash to a different radio, and if so which one? Can you go down, or only flash up? Thx
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Appearances are that you can use any radio version with any ROM (on the Eris, at least). I've mixed-n-matched all sorts of combinations, with no apparent (i.e., readily-observed) troubles.
IMO, it is somewhat unlikely that you will see any difference in signal strength. The radio firmware codes are pretty mature, and the minor revisions in their behavior are things which are probably only detectable by the carrier. (There is not a shred of credible evidence of people observing "beter signal" as a result of radio firmware upgrades on the Eris.)
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