1)If I flash my prophet with an OS-Update,that is made for another phone(for example Black Shadow Rom,made for Hermes),what will happen??Will it work,or i will have a nice bricked prophet?
2)If it doesn't work,what files i have to change to make it work..?I assume,that i have to change the drivers for the hardware... How can I do that?
3)How can i port Wizard Roms to Prophet?I believe that most WM6 roms,are from Wizard...but there isn't any guide on how to do it.....
4)Why other phones have 6-7 WM6 Roms,and for the Prophet are only 4(smart1,PDAViet,Trueneytral,PDAMobiz)??
5)Can I emulate the Rom i will cook-port,with the Microsoft Device Emulator?How?
If any of the questions were answered,pleased post the link to the answer,because i couldn't find it...(yes,i searched)....
Also,please don't point me to the prophet wiki,because i already read it,and there's little info or no info,about Rom cooking,Rom porting....
Thanks in advance,for your answers....
tonydeli7 said:
1)If I flash my prophet with an OS-Update,that is made for another phone(for example Black Shadow Rom,made for Hermes),what will happen??Will it work,or i will have a nice bricked prophet?
2)If it doesn't work,what files i have to change to make it work..?I assume,that i have to change the drivers for the hardware... How can I do that?
3)How can i port Wizard Roms to Prophet?I believe that most WM6 roms,are from Wizard...but there isn't any guide on how to do it.....
4)Why other phones have 6-7 WM6 Roms,and for the Prophet are only 4(smart1,PDAViet,Trueneytral,PDAMobiz)??
5)Can I emulate the Rom i will cook-port,with the Microsoft Device Emulator?How?
If any of the questions were answered,pleased post the link to the answer,because i couldn't find it...(yes,i searched)....
Also,please don't point me to the prophet wiki,because i already read it,and there's little info or no info,about Rom cooking,Rom porting....
Thanks in advance,for your answers....
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1. only OS update can't brick your phone, only wrong IPL/SPL upgrade/downgrades can
2. if the OS doesn't work (if you have taken it from a non prophet phone) its hard to make it work, yes it needs the correct drivers etc. also the size the the way the OS.nb file is writen can be important
3. wizard and prophet are close with hardware etc, but you need to change the drivers for the correct ones, i'll try and post a rom cooking guide at some time on here
4. lazy dev people (i'm not lazy I just didnt have time to make one...yet)
5. might be possible, I havent tried it yet
thanks for the answers mate!Waiting for your WM6 rom...
Not wanting to be rude/impatient/ ungrateful for all the wonderful work done for the Prophet....
But someone made touchflo possible on the wizard............ I also want one...... Waaaah
Check out the following link....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=313656
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IPL 2.13.0001
SPL 2.20.0001
Radio 2.47.21
ROM : 4.0.0.0.4PDAVIET
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Hello!
I'm very unsure how I can update my G4 CID looked.
1. Which updateway is recommendable?
2. Can I use all Prophet Roms?
greetz Ben
Can everybody help me please?
I'm still waiting for an answer!
look in the xda-wiki ... you found the right discription.
Not Realy! I have read the wiki and all usefull threads 2 days before!
1. There are different updateways in different foren, threads and wikis and all are for G3. Some users, which have a G4 model write that you have to notice a few points, but the answers are not very clearly.
2. In the german XDA forum they tell me that I can use every prophet rom! BUT: In the wiki is written that the G3 and G4 devices have different hardware! So it is very illegitimate that I can use the same rom!
Please help me! In my statement you can see that I'm very careful because I don't want to brick it!
no you haven't,as i see !
Do you think that I'm lying? Maybe I'm blind or stupid!
1. I don't want that you tell me the updateway. A link to the tutorial which you use / would use will be ok!
2. I can see that you has a normal prophet rom. So I think that the answer is YES?
I've got the same problem. This forum is great, no doubt, but it's a MESS. I couldn't find a clear answer regarding flashing a CID LOCKED G4 Prophet.
Can I flash radio roms ? What about extrom ? Can I just flash Gullums Touch VII right away after flashing NVID rom from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310452 ? Can I even flash this NVID rom to CID LOCKED G4 ?
Lots of questions and for every one I can find 20 different answers, so I'm pretty confused. Maybe someone with the patience can clarify all of that, we don't want to brick our precious Prophets.
Juhuu! A further confused man!
So let's collect our incomplete knowledge together!
I read about a tool, shelltool with it you can update a CID locked device!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293480
I'm reading the full thread at the moment!
My rom question is still open! If I find an answer I update my device with the shelltool!
greetz Ben
OK i see your Problem!
You can Flash all Roms with the NVID Flashtool. You can only Flash Roms with this tool, if no IPL and SPL is included! WM6 Roms use too ways to Flash it. Read the Threads about this WM6 Roms ... you need only to start the Update.bat or simulare bat file ... possible a NVID Flashtool. Some Roms have two bat files for G3 or G4 Device. Use the right! Radio Roms use everytime the NVID Flashtool and work everytime with locked devices.
You dont need the Shelltool way ... this is more Hardcore for develope.
Tank you very much for your answer!
In fact:
-I can flash every prophet rom which has a G4 bat?!
-I can flash every prophet Rom which has no IPL, SPL with NVID flashtool?
My G4 runs WM6 now!
After again 5 hours investigation I know that you CAN'T kill your device with the prophet roms! When all people say "the device is bricked" they don't mean that nothing happens! They say "bricked" if the ppc stuck on the SPL/ISP screen or the bootloader. And both can be fixed with a RUU update like Prophet_PV_Temp or the original O2 rom!
Frtzrwk:
I upgraded to PDAVIET Touch 4.0.0.6!
You can get the link to both RARs in the thread.
First: Prophet_PV_Temp
For Up/Downgrading to Aku 2.2 (WM5)
Second: PV_4.0.0.0.6_Touch
The Real WM6 Rom
-Download and extract!
-Start "ROMUpdateUtility_NV_G4", which install Aku2.2
#wait 10 minutes, your ppc restart automatically
-After the PPC is fully started, you install first "Cert_SPCS" and then "EnableRapi" (you can find the two files in PV_4.0.0.0.6_Touch)
#wait 1 minute and restart your device
-Now you can update your Rom with "Upgrade_Rom"
#wait ~15 minutes
-Hardreset your device! IMPORTANT!!!
Welcome to your new WM6 installation!
If your device stuck at the ISP/SPL screen (loading more than ~5 minutes), go into bootloader (camera + reset) and start again with upgrading to Aku2.2
greetz Benne
This was all in the wiki
See http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Prophet
then
WM6 Upgrade Guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1296235&postcount=1
And your device can go to heaven when your flashing the wrong rom to a wrong device...
The answer was for Frtzrwk because he is confused too!
So shut the **** up...
I don't think so! Were is written in the f**k wiki that I can use ALL prophet roms!
There is olny one information about G4:
It is not possible to upgrade from a G3 model to a G4 model through software, as the DOC is a piece of Hardware.
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So the hardware is not the same!
And by the way: I hate rapidshare... test the links!
And when everybody flash a trium rom or another **** rom they shouldn't buy a PPC!
I don't care!
friendly greetz Ben!
P.S. Many thanks to NetrunnerAT for the only usefull answer in this thread and to gullum for his fileservice + great rom!
yes
ok new menber
Ihave o2 mini uprom die
What? I can't understand you!
Dear All,
I have read so many treats for upgrading (New Method).
I am not expert in this.
I have upgraded my Neo form WM5.0 to WM6.0 ,now on Transformation 1.1.
As after reading so many treats seem so many user are seem to be confusing to use new upgrade metho.
As others are doing in a click need to admit on their understanding.
Can any one answer on some of my question ?
I am sure this will help in removing my as well as others doughts.
1, For Hard SPL.
After Hard SPL is my current operating (Transformation 1.1 WM6) will remains the same or only which colour screen will apear on it and I have to update withs some WM Rome.
2, If Hard SPL donsent affect the existing rom.
Then after doing Hard SPL i just need to restart my Neo --> connect to PC
Through Active Syn. and need to exectue ROMUpdateUtility_NV_G4.exe from the folder with the ROM.Thats it new WM will be update on my Neo.
3, If I had Hard SPL once,
I read that once you have Hard SPL then no need to do it again,
does it mean once i have done Hard SPL then for any WM i just need to run WM rom that it no need for any Hard SPL.
I am dam sure all Great Gurus of this form is dong or else playing with all this upgradation process for WM 6/6.1.
All of us who are confuse on this new upgradation process will be really thankfull if some one just post some documents with sceeen shots for complete process form beging till the end to WM 6/6.1.
I know all those information are avilable on this form, also tried to read as much as i can but got confuse.
Seeking the answers form Gurus.
Thanks V Much in Advace.
mehfil said:
Dear All,
I have read so many treats for upgrading (New Method).
I am not expert in this.
I have upgraded my Neo form WM5.0 to WM6.0 ,now on Transformation 1.1.
As after reading so many treats seem so many user are seem to be confusing to use new upgrade metho.....
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Hey~~~
What do you mean?
Did you read the sticky post at the top before making this new thread?
Did you read my post 1 in my signature before shouting out?
post your reply to those thread that you thought confusing and let them(or me) know~~~~
read please !!!!!
Your questions are a bit difficult to understand, but hee.. not everybody is educated in the English language...
I think I did get your point, so I'm trying to answer your questions:
1) HardSPL doesn't affect your OS, it only replaces the standard SPL. This makes it possible to flash any ROM with the RUU instead of only the Vendors release. Keep in mind that this universal ROM has to be in a nk.nbf format.
2) I did answer that question in point 1: Yes after a succesfull installation of HardSPL (you can check the systeminfo at startup) the only thing you have to do when you want to upgrade is to put the nk.nbf of your desired ROM together with the RUU-package and run the RUU when your device is connected through ActiveSync.
3) HardSPL stays resident, that means that you only have to execute that step once. Keep in mind though that most official ROM's install a complete firmware-package: OS, Splash, GSM and SPL. If you install such a ROM the included SPL will overwrite HardSPL. No big deal, but you have to install it again when you want to flash a homecooked ROM again.
Thanks V much
Thanks Dear
for answering my Question.
This is surely help me in understanding new upgrade process.
If there’s any inconvenience caused to anyone then I am extremely sorry for this.
Thanks & Regards,
Hey,
Newbie here. I own two smartflips bought from i-mate hq (Dubai). However, i'm now in Aus. WM6 looks nice and i must say, great work and appreciation for those who cook up these ROMs. However, i noticed that all these ROMs start off from either Cingular or QTEK or HTC. why leave i-mate ROMs behind guys? Anyways, before i try out any of these ROMs, i just don't want to end up killing my phone. I've searched high and low for i-mate stock ROMs (WM5). I saw one in a post but that was like WWE or something which i'm not sure what it means. I don't want to register on i-mate and do loads of form-filling and IMEI filling just to get some ROMs. Anyone have any idea of where i can acquire some 'stock' WM5 i-mate ROMs (not qtek or cingular or htc or wotever).
The other thing.. i haven't SuperCID-ed my smartflip. I tried to get to the bootloader (for no reason.. just experimenting) by pressing the keys n all but it doesn't show up. it goes to the i-mate screen.. then flashes an HTC logo and boots WM5. Once again my smartflip is Out-of-the box, hope that helps someone explaining the phenomena. i do have the i-mate CD that came with it. However didn't find and option to install Windows Mobile 5.0. I need a ROM to keep a backup in case i screw up. If anyone could help me obtain an i-mate WM5 ROM, it would be greatly appreciated.
Also, how would one find out the IPL and SPL of the smartflip? As i mentioned i wouldn't like to brick my phone. It is mentioned somewhere that the 3.06 or wotever IPL and SPL version are not capable of flashing through micro-sd card. Not sure but i think the 4.0 or wotever can flash through micro-sd card. Apart from the link(to files) posted in a thread, isn't there an 'official' way of getting to update the IPL and SPL?
Sorry for such a long post. One thing i must say, great work guys. I would like to suggest people to follow up on their threads. there was one 'bricked' post but the person said he found a solution but never posted what his solution was. It would be helpful if he could have posted the solution as it does help others. Apologies if i said anything wrong.
Thanks,
Dan.
You used to be able topick up Imate roms from ftp://ftp.clubimate.com
But they won't be nearly as good as the cooked Wm6 ones. Just follow the instruction and flash away.
(WWE means worldwide english)
Flash one of the cooked ones! I use Erofich's 6.1 and it's great.
WWE just means WorldWideEnglish as opposed to other languages.
Good luck
I have a SmartFlip upgraded with GnatGoSplat's WM6 ROM (Eurofich' WM6 is better but GPRS doesn't work): it works fast and without problems.
WM6 ROM, SPL/IPL and Radio at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368715
Imate didn't upgrade the SmartFlip's ROM to WM6.
D'rath
D'rath said:
Eurofich' WM6 is better but GPRS doesn't work
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What's a problem? Use my WM6.1 where everything works
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=374397
just install a Cumulative Fix after flashing and have a fun
Btw, you can also use Jony_aa's WM6 AKU 0.5.1 ROMs with most useful software included, or clean version
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=373099
Thank you all!
Hi,
Thank you all for your responses. i-mate roms at imate ftp site is confirmed. Thanks unwired. The thing is i take calculated risks and have most info before i do some thing. so if i end up somehow bricking my phone, i will know what to do before dad kills me . Now i just need to update the IPL/SPL and get into bootloader to see if it works. Then gonna flash with WM6 or WM6.1. I just needed a stock ROM to keep as backup because its mentioned somewhere that if your phone is bricked, u can try to flash it using micro-sd card flashing. but that only works with stock ROMs if WM6 flashing fails. Anyways, thanks once again. i will keep you guys updated on my progress.. Thanks!
Best Regards,
Dan.
Erofich said:
What's a problem? Use my WM6.1 where everything works
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=374397
just install a Cumulative Fix after flashing and have a fun
Btw, you can also use Jony_aa's WM6 AKU 0.5.1 ROMs with most useful software included, or clean version
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=373099
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I Try WM6.1 but it gives me problems importing old sms (the inbox elements are stocked in send items)... i must import old sms ^^'
Jony_aa with Neo is very nice but the home isn't so custumizable: so i flash Gnat's ROM.
D'rath
PS: My English is very hungly O_O
SDA_ApplicationUnlock
Where can one get the SDA_ApplicationUnlock.exe? the superCID thread didn't mention where to get it or either i missed it... anyone out there to help me??
Thanks,
Dan.
(If i succeed in doing this.. i'll make an Utimate WM6 for STRTRK guide)
IPL/SPL
Hi,
Sorry for multiple questions. I still haven't been able to get into the bootloader by pressing the voice notes and camera and power on key. I'm still not sure how it goes. Do you have to hold the keys, press the power button and let go immediately of all the three keys or do you have to hold the power button for long with holding the voice and camera keys? i need to check which version of the bootloader i have to make sure it supports flashing from micro-sd. Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Dan.
EDIT: I was also looking for some way to backup software from my current WM5 ROM. There are some apps that come in-built which i like. But since i don't have the .cab(s) i was wondering if there would be a way to backup software and later on install it. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Out of a million tries, I only managed to get into the bootloader ONCE that way. Okay, I exaggerate, but I found it almost impossible to use RECORD, CAMERA, and POWER to get into bootloader. Instead, I've found with the phone OFF, press RECORD, CAMERA, and plug the USB connector into the PC while holding those buttons. It goes into Bootloader every single time that way.
You can back up the built-in apps, but it requires figuring out which files belong to which app, and also getting their registry entries. Then you can either manually copy all those files into the phone and manually import the registry entries, or make them into a cab file to automate it.
WOW.. thnx for that!
Yup! Worked like a charm! i have IPL/SPL 1.02 or wotever.. so i don't need to worry about micro-sd card flashing problems ( i hope i never need to use that in my life). So if it works this way.. i would recommend others who have bricked their phones and trying to flash it holding the record, and camera button while phone is off, plug it in the usb. As soon as i did that, Vista picked it up as a mobile device. the bootloader ( the screen sucks! what a dreadful combination of colors!) also shows a usb sign at the bottom. I hope this info helps those who bricked/killed their phone and were finding it hard to re-flash it. As it is mentioned in some thread... if wm6 flashing fails, u have to revert back to stock rom WM5 (cingular rom for cingular phone, i-mate rom for i-mate, etc) and then re-flash with WM6. I wonder if rom update utilities work when in bootloader connected to pc.
Once again, thanks for your reply GnatGoSplat. As for the apps, yea.. i know its bad. I did check over onto the i-mate site and found a file 'Arabic...' something. it didn't mention it as a rom so i'm hoping they are the software packages that come with the default middleast rom. You might have heard of 'Portableapps' on PCs. They are little beauties. Because the original windows and windows mobile are linked closely.. i might wonder if there could be a way to port those ( or even create your own) onto windows mobile. I know how to make portableapps so if you need any info, i think i could help unless someone knows better.
So where do i get the SDA_ApplicationUnlock file? Thanks.
Regards,
Dan.
Dan_Ultimate said:
So where do i get the SDA_ApplicationUnlock file?.
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Get it from attach
Thanks.. sadly, i've got some bad news...
Hi,
Thanks for the file Erofich. Unfortunately, I've just been caught up with studies and hence will not be able to work on modding my i-mate until i get some free time. however, i'm still going to try to work on an 'Ultimate WM6 for Startrek Guide'.
Its just that its better for end-users because some of the information is scattered around and 'some' of the instructions are a bit hard to follow (no offense to anyone). If anyone has any concerns or is against my actions, please let me know.
Regards,
Dan
i want EUR rom, with spanish language... all roms are WWE in english or russian.
know any european rom wm6 for star trek?
moebior said:
i want EUR rom, with spanish language... all roms are WWE in english or russian.
know any european rom wm6 for star trek?
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You can translate some menu (in the post of WM6 by Eurofich you find how) but not all of them.
You can get the xT9 with spanish language with a cab you can find looking in that ROOM.
D'rath
arabic laguage smartflip
sir i try to make arabic laguage my i-mate smartflip but i cant do it..i seek from last one month plz help me tel me how can i make arabic my smarflip.plzzzzzzzzzzz.
irfansamsia said:
sir i try to make arabic laguage my i-mate smartflip but i cant do it..i seek from last one month plz help me tel me how can i make arabic my smarflip.plzzzzzzzzzzz.
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What's the version of your rom ?
for official rom ( win 5.0 ) , you can go to this topic :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400183
and if you install erofish's great rom ( win 6.1 ) go to this one :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=465294
i-mate smartflip
Thanx for repy bro.but same problem ,i update widh this rom..but stil same.no arabic when i try to instal arabizersute its say unsuccsecful..when i try to instal it by memory then also same..plz help me ..i have two device same proble.
Hi
1. do you use from this ro M : WM6.1 Build 5.2.19593 AKU 1.1.7 by Erofich ?
2. second link is specially for imate smartflip then i don't now what's your problem ( maybe don't install your new rom correctly )
3. arabizer must be installed on phone memory ( not memory card )
Good luck !
Thanx bor.its working nice .....thanx again...mawah....
sorry as this has been discussed on forum but i have had dumped my old rom wm5 from my new gene..and i want to downgrade to it from sumit pro user rom...plz tell me if any danger and how can i do it>help
no one have time to reply me?plz expert help this poor guy....
Even though you have dumped this ROM urself, check the ROM with HTC RIE that it doesn't have the IPL, SPL and GSM parts. If any of these present, delete them and save the ROM. This will make the ROM safe for flashing.
BUt there is one more concern. I dont know whether the Orefkov or Olipro's SPL allows WM 5 flashing. Thats something you'll have to find out from someone else.
im trying to cook a rom for this device and have only worked with a hermes before..and those tools i was using...ROMcDonalds .. are not dumping the OS.nb
anyone know how to dump the OS.nb of this .nbh?
anyone ever cooked a ROM for this Phone?
let me know...
edit... i have cooked my rom on a sedna...
it is possible !!!
Making massive headway into customizing my own ROM on the SENDA...!!!
but sure noone wants to know... phone must be unpopular...but i love the large screen
have already flashed several test roms..some worked others not...now got it more or less figured
rom available ?
Hi,
how did you managed to make a new ROM for your Sedna ?
I'd like to make one special for my own sedna, including SPB mobile shell 3 or with Windows Mobile 6.5 (not sure about WM6.5 ).
For sure, sedna is not very popular but i think it is a very good phone.
regards.
i used kaiser kitchen to build my rom... and used qmat to split and recompile my .nbh
qmat.. http://revskills.de/pages/download.html
of course i need to have hard spl 'ed my SEDNA before i did any thing...
so thats first .. hard spl ...
then use qmat to Dump your .nbh up and get os.nb...
then with that os.nb follow the kaiser directions for cooking and use a kitchen there... i think there are a few but any thing that will work for kaiser will now work for sedna..
cook you rom and recompile till its os.nb again...
then use qmat to generate os.nb back to a .nbh and use an original flasher.. just replace the .nbh with your cooked one... and thats it
of course not everything that applies to kaiser works here but enough does and once you have a hard spl you should not brick you phone and you can flash any rom you cook.
i take it you have some idea how to cook ...if not well read the kaiser directions and figure it out...
finger print with cooked rom
Hi,
did your finger print reader works with your cooked rom ?
Regards.
yes no problem with it...
P6500 wm 6.5 rom ???
Has anyone cooked a WM 6.5 ROM with TF3D for P6500 ???
Htc p6500wm6.5chs
http://hi.baidu.com/%D0%E0%C4%BE%CD%B7/blog/item/29db300ef3fb4d216059f3c2.html
see my other thread for cooked ROMs
Sedna ROMs cooked...
there you will find my cooked versions...