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Well, I'm just not having a good year.
Before anyone jumps on me -- I've been digging through the wiki and forums for the past few days, and it doesn't seem like anyone else had had a similar problem...
I just received my JASJAM back from the service center. They said they couldn't fix the trashed radio ROM (good ol' Windows XP blue screened on me), and needed to replace the motherboard ($590), and it wasn't covered under warranty due to the "non-iMate software" I had installed. doh. I declined, and had them send it back to me. In the time between them receiving it and me getting it back, all of the cool new stuff from pof and olipro have come out (Hard SPL, etc). So I'm thinking I could fix it myself.
I put HardSPL on there, started to flash a new radio ROM, and it locked up for 90 minutes before it just went blank. It was getting power from the PC, the PC didn't fall asleep.. it just.. died.
Now I just get the red LED when it's plugged into power, and no LED when the battery is installed. The LED turns off when the battery is installed while there's power going into the unit.
I'm pretty sure this thing is a goner.
I've left the battery out for an hour or so, plugged it back in, same results. I tried the "pull power, pull battery, plug in power, plug in battery, reset" technique from the wiki - no difference.
Too bad this didn't happen before -- I bet iMate would replace the stupid thing now because it won't power up (I already called them -- the serial number has been blacklisted so they won't do anything for me, even if this is a hardware problem). :-\ ... I've considered sending it back and pay them to replace the system board... but I can buy a new TyTN for $650... and I'm sure something better is right around the corner from HTC, so I don't really want to spend the money on a system board replacement.
So I guess this post has two purposes: does anyone have any last resort ideas on how to get this thing to at least come back up to a boot loader... I'd be happy if it would even try to power the LCD panel back up.
If not... anyone want to buy a toasted JasJam off of me, for parts? It's got a front camera.. *wink wink* 8525'ers..
That sucks; but if there's no power at all, I'm guessing it's pretty toasted.
So, how much do you want for it?
im willing to buy the case and screen from u... hehe msg me or email me
my case has a few dents and scratches im want to take out... and the screen.. well =(
I assume that you can't get to bootloader mode?
Before you give it up for dead at least post your info in the "dead hermes? corrupted radio? Post comments here" sticky thread. The experts will review your post and they have been known to provide tips that fixed phones that others had given up for dead. Can't hurt to try and it could save you a few $$$.
How much do you want.. i may be interested!
Well, imei-check.co.uk does offer a repair service... Send them an e-mail (they'll ask you whether you used Pof's unlocker - which they call "cloned/cracked" - answer NO! else they'll add 20 pounds to it!)
Yannick
Even though there is nothing on the screen, while the red button is on try and go into the bootloader.
I am having the exact same issue after trying to upgrade to the new AKU 3 ROM from my SD card.
My screen went blank just at the beginning of the upgrade and since it does not power at all.
I follow the instructions mentioned in thread about this issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286469&p=1077622
but after inserting at different time the battery when it is powered on, the red light goes off, so I am enable to do any soft reset.
Do you think it could be a related battery issue (my battery is a 3 months old original one).
Any suggestions are welcome!
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Even though there is nothing on the screen, while the red button is on try and go into the bootloader.
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No such luck. My PC isn't even recognizing it on the USB bus. I tried on two other machines, and it doesn't show up there. Nothing on my Mac or Linux boxes, either. :-\
Grr.. I wish it had done this before I sent it to iMate for repair -- they would have swapped out the systemboard without giving me the grief of "you put non-iMate software on here, no warranty service for you!"
Heh. Expensive lesson learned. This is what I get for constantly trying to tweak and improve something that really didn't need to be tweaked and improved.
I'm probably just going to replace it with a TyTN/HERM200 now - I like the layout/d-keypad on it better.
I guess that planned Las Vegas vacation will have to wait a few more months. doh.
Cuivienor said:
Well, imei-check.co.uk does offer a repair service... Send them an e-mail (they'll ask you whether you used Pof's unlocker - which they call "cloned/cracked" - answer NO! else they'll add 20 pounds to it!)
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Already tried; they replied that it sounds like a hardware/system board issue and to send it in for service.
Of course, iMate refuses to fix it because they saw the 1.01MFG bootloader on there from when it originally died on me and have declared it out of warranty.
Originally I messed it up when I flashed the newest HTC ROM on there -- my windows machine blue screened. It toasted the radio rom. This was before HardSPL/etc, so I tried to downgrade it to 1.04 with no luck, then I managed to get 1.01MFG on there. From there, it refused to let me update anything, and I couldn't get back to 1.04 (in other words, it wasn't acting like *anyone* had said it would in the forums/wiki). From there, I was stuck with the HTC Rom (that had a big "TEST ROM" on the screen), booting into AKU3, and no way to put the JASJAM ROM back on it. So. yeah. I screewd myself by sending it to them for repair and not waiting for HardSPL/etc to be released.
Last night I was able to get the latest oilipro bootloader on it, and it was happily accepting a new radio ROM when it just powered itself off in mid flash. The red LED went on, and it just sat there. It hasn't done anything else since.
So I guess final word is: if you brick your device, before sending it in to the warranty... Well you should brick it a little more!
I hear microwaves can help you there
jmat said:
Last night I was able to get the latest oilipro bootloader on it, and it was happily accepting a new radio ROM when it just powered itself off in mid flash. The red LED went on, and it just sat there. It hasn't done anything else since.
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Well, If it let you get olipro on it there is still hope! Maybe a bad battery causing the shutdowns?
Cuivienor said:
So I guess final word is: if you brick your device, before sending it in to the warranty... Well you should brick it a little more!
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Exactly. Make sure it won't even turn on. LOL
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Well, If it let you get olipro on it there is still hope! Maybe a bad battery causing the shutdowns?
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Nope; I've tried a different battery and different power cables. Tried direct power, USB power.
There's nothing showing up on the USB bus at all -- it's not even showing up in USB monitor. On my Linux machine, the USB Host isn't seeing it.
It's dead. Other than the single red LED when it's only plugged in (with no battery).
I've done every key combo, tried to get into KITL (but without a USB link, it's a no go).
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I hear microwaves can help you there
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Hah. I bet sending 12-24 volts up a USB cable would do the trick as well.
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Hah. I bet sending 12-24 volts up a USB cable would do the trick as well.
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go for the gold and apply 110
I had the smae problem with my 8525...It was toast, I sent it back to Cingular who repleaced it under warranty.. ."I dunno..it jsut died, you think a power surge or soemthign could cause this?"
short answer according to everything i read here when it happened to me...you're done.
Damnit and double damnit.
I've the EXACT same problem, but I didnt flash mine (at least in the last 5 days) Orange will not replace mine as the battery "moisture alert" has turned red spotted meaning - according to them, that I have kept it in my Speedos while I have been swimming, which isnt the case. It has been in humid environments tho, but what argument do I have?
If anything does work, ill be sure to let you know.
@scibot : this is abusive from them. I would try again at a different store if I were you. Tons of reasons this could happen, none of them your fault. I'm sure you'll find a decent explanation for the presence of that spot
Okay today I intentionally bricked my phone. Not once, not twice, but 6 times with three bad ROM's (long boring day) and pulled the USB during the flashing at around 20%-95% as well as other no,no's
The experiment. To see how fast, and what I would use to unbrick it. Now being stuck in an all white screen or bootloader might bring fear or tears to some, but what I discovered is probably the best and easiest way to get your phone back to life in a relatively short amount of time.
If this has been covered before or mentioned elsewhere I didn't see it so I apologize if thats the case.
After I bricked each time I simply hooked up the usb cable to my pc. As you know when you are bricked or stuck in a loader Active Sync does not launch. What I found was that if you use a factory WM6 AT&T ROM it will still connect via usb and will flash said ROM 100% of the time restoring you're phone to a working state.
Now I did this 6 times today and it worked every time. I mean I really f'd with this second phone unplugging, Task Manager'd out during a flash, hard reset during a flash, etc. Every time it worked.
Hope this helps.
Well, you have been only lucky for 1 reason:
You always 'bricked' your device when it was in the middle of flashing the OS! This does not really matter as long as BOOTLOADER and CID are intact!
Do the same experiment but this time pull the plug at 15% and you will most likely fail to recover from that! At around 15% is the moment where the CID block gets written to the phones ROM.
Be very carefully that you do not 'brick' your device earlier because of in the state before 15% IPL and SPL are getting flashed! If you destroy the bootloader you can't do anything anymore!
If you are going to try that out please flash your phone first with the nbh from the CINGULAR WM5 (it is in the wiki) by using CustomRUU! CINGULAR WM5 has KITL enabled and you will be able to 'unbrick' your device by using the GUIDE in the WIKI.
I WILL NOT BE RESPONSIBLE IF YOU BREAK YOUR DEVICE TO A POINT OF NO RECOVERY POSSIBLE!
CID block is never written to the phone, it's just an area of storage inside the GSM chip.
however, if incomplete code is flashed to the GSM chip, the radio AT interface cant' boot... and then there's no way of talking to it, hence making it now dead.
On a different note, if the Radio Bootloader is in the middle of flashing (although I believe 0108 is persistent) and the connection is broken, you're now royally ****ed.
So, the GSM chip is not in the phone then?
<just kidding!>
However,
pulling the plug around 15% will most likely end in a brick! That was where I had my pc crash - thankfully KITL was enabled!
Tried again
Okay I did this at 12% and then at 16% (could not time it right for 15%) and I was able to recover. If I am just one lucky bastard, and this is highly against the odds, I would say don't do this on purpose like me.
My only point of the experiment was to see if I was to ever brick, at least I knew of one possibility that would recover it. And when looking at it like that it was a success.
Now that all is back to normal, I have HARD SPL.7 and have no issues.
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Okay I did this at 12% and then at 16% (could not time it right for 15%) and I was able to recover. If I am just one lucky bastard, and this is highly against the odds, I would say don't do this on purpose like me.
My only point of the experiment was to see if I was to ever brick, at least I knew of one possibility that would recover it. And when looking at it like that it was a success.
Now that all is back to normal, I have HARD SPL.7 and have no issues.
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HARD SPL? try a different SPL and then try it again...
Oh yeah... Try to kill your bootloader too... And if it's like one of my devices
(HTC Charmer with a black screen... Only the power led lights up for half a second when I press the power button)
then try to flash your "holy" rom
eh, i don't understand why people call it bricking if only the OS needs a reflash
I wasn't clear. The phone was never hard SPL'd till after the experiment when I decided to lock the ***** up to keep it safe from doing more stupid stuff. The os flash wasn't all I crashed out on. I did this with this on purpose with the radio versions as well.
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I wasn't clear. The phone was never hard SPL'd till after the experiment when I decided to lock the ***** up to keep it safe from doing more stupid stuff. The os flash wasn't all I crashed out on. I did this with this on purpose with the radio versions as well.
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then you are crazy
There are 2 possible explanations for your "luck":
Either the ROM you're flashing contains nothing but the OS and maybe the EXTENDED ROM in which case it does not really matter if you pull the plug because of your BOOTLOADER and GSM will remain intact or your FLASHING UTILITY 'ignors' the BOOTLOADER / GSM flash and writes only the OS and EXTENDED (which would have the same effect as case 1 when pulling the plug!).
However,
flashing an entire ROM takes a while, especially between 12% and 30% if you flash IPL / SPL / SPLASH / GSM / OS / EXTENDED - there is enough time to pull the plug at 15% because of it takes almost a minute until it jumps to 16% ...
I don't want to animate you to try that out because of sooner or later you will brick the device for sure!
Can you host the ROM file + flashing utility you used for your experiments, so, that we can download it and take a closer look?
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I wasn't clear. The phone was never hard SPL'd till after the experiment when I decided to lock the ***** up to keep it safe from doing more stupid stuff. The os flash wasn't all I crashed out on. I did this with this on purpose with the radio versions as well.
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The world belongs to renegades and mavericks...
I did it with TNT's latest as well as VP3G 3.62
OK I'll bite where is WM6 AT&T ROM?
I have a bircked phone tytn (tried to unsucessfully unbrick around 50 times), not sure why or where it bricked.
Can reload but sticks at screen alignemnt EVERY TIME.
Was given as a challenge (failed so far).
If I could find this and it worked I be happy chappy long time.
If it works of mine it will work on anyone's.
Give it up dudes (or duedess if there is one out there).
Here is the secret. Use the bundled WM5 Cingular ROM from HTCs download site.
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Here is the secret. Use the bundled WM5 Cingular ROM from HTCs download site.
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Do you have a link, filename or even better can post on Rapidshare?
Edit: btw, the moniker is hilarious!
rob8 said:
Do you have a link, filename or even better can post on Rapidshare?
Edit: btw, the moniker is hilarious!
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He gave you the info you need. Go to HTC's site. Or use google.
K since i took the time to post this I might as well link it.
Go to the bottom of this page.
It is about time to give out a WARNING !!!
People, do not try to brick your device and trust in that you can recover from that by using the ROM from the HTC's website! This is not a magic tool and it won't bring your Hermes back to life if your device is really screwed up! There is nothing in the Cingular ROM what 'magically' does the trick! IHAVETINYBALLS was either just lucky or he isn't really bricking his device (consciously or unconsciously).
If you do not believe me ask other senior members with lots of experiences, such as OliP ...
However, I know there is no way of stopping fools to do foolish things, so, go ahead, destroy your expensive toy! You can always find a new one on eBay ... !
For all the retards who don't get it. (meaning the point)
To the dip**** retards who don't get the point. Like I said, I am probably just lucky. And like I said again, DO NOT try this unless your phone is stuck and ****ed, it was just an experiment. I have two 8525's one I bought as a refurb from AT&T for $99 and another one that was from an angry owner who threw it away at the AT&T store (as it was bricked and now "useless") and I pulled it from the garbage bin. Recovered it (just did a hard reset and put in a new battery and factory ROM and did a few experiments.
It didn't cost me anything and I did put a warning out there. The point of it all was that if you give up on bringing it back to life, maybe just maybe you should try this out.
Obviously if your phone is working just fine, don't do this or your a ****ing retard. Its meant for bricked or stuck phones as a possible recovery as it worked on said phone numerous times in various states of bad flashing and various types of ROMs.
This phone is now running vp3G 3.62 and now has HARD SPL.7, and Radio 1.54.07 and is running flawlessly.
So one mans brick/stuck frustration is making for an excellent spare / backup for me.
trying now
ok - have hybrid brick (no KITL, screwed CID and radio)
if everyone crosses their fingers at the same time maybe it will help???
will post back results!
Bugger
thanks for giving me hope! but alas...no good
hopefully someone else can figure out how to get back from a hybrid brick of no KITL and SPL 1.09
The problem: I flashed a radio to my device that is (obviously) incompatible with my device (if you really want the details, its embarassing, but I'll post if necessary). My phone freezes on bootup, and never initializes the Radio/ROM (and for good reason).
This is what happens now: If my phone is off, I can turn it on, but I only get the first boot up screen, and the red numbers in the bottom right-hand corner never appear. At that point, I cannot turn off my phone without taking out the battery. If I take out the battery and put it back in, and attach the phone to a charger (or USB cable), the light on the phone will "breathe", as if its charging. However, if I then disconnect the phone, the light will CONTINUE breathing.
I also cannot turn on the phone while its connected to either the charger or USB cable.
My phone is Hard-SPL'ed and Security Unlocked. But the real issue I'm having is that I can't get into Bootloader to flash something else. Apparently, I've corrupted the Bootloader. When I turn the phone on, and press the reset button while holding Vol-down, the phone just goes black.
I might be okay getting a warranty exchange if not for this: I can still hard reset my phone. It doesn't make any sense to me, but when I turn it on, I can do the soft-reset-button, Vol-down, Action button combo, and my phone flashes through Bootloader to give the the hard reset menu. It flashes that screen just long enough to see that my phone has 1.90Olinex as the SPL. So, I think I may be screwed, unless someone here can help.
My wife is very . . . upset . . . about this, and is worried that we'll have to spend money because of my continuous "tinkering" with my phone.
Any help anyone can offer is greatly appreciated.
I know this is my own stupid fault, and I should've known better, but it would be nice to get confirmation from the experts here that I'm just going to have to chalk one up in the "L" column at this point.
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Have you tried to flash from the SD card?
Hi Captain_Throwback,
Try copying Raph Radio 1.11.25.01 to the root of a FAT32 SD Card ... you'll need to rename the .NBH to RAPHIMG.NBH.
Pull the SIM out of the phone and power it back on as per usual; I've noticed that the phone "blacks out" for a bit but then switches to flash mode.
Good luck.
PS: suggest getting the large carry-on with the wheels for the guilt trip - heaven knows it's come in handy for me
That's a bummer, man. You gotta at least 'fess up part of the story to prevent someone else from falling into the same trap (however unlikely that may be). And maybe, just maybe, it will help someone else figure out how to fix your problem.
What radio did you try and flash.
Hopefully it wasn't the new Rhodium radio? Or a Rose radio?
I have done this a few times on my tilt, all I did was put it into the boot loader, it worked from hard reset screen as well, and flashed the rom via activesync. I am assuming that you are not able to get a sync, or have you tried yet? I know my fize will also sync [to flash] from bootloadr.
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The problem: I flashed a radio to my device that is (obviously) incompatible with my device (if you really want the details, its embarassing, but I'll post if necessary). My phone freezes on bootup, and never initializes the Radio/ROM (and for good reason).
This is what happens now: If my phone is off, I can turn it on, but I only get the first boot up screen, and the red numbers in the bottom right-hand corner never appear. At that point, I cannot turn off my phone without taking out the battery. If I take out the battery and put it back in, and attach the phone to a charger (or USB cable), the light on the phone will "breathe", as if its charging. However, if I then disconnect the phone, the light will CONTINUE breathing.
I also cannot turn on the phone while its connected to either the charger or USB cable.
My phone is Hard-SPL'ed and Security Unlocked. But the real issue I'm having is that I can't get into Bootloader to flash something else. Apparently, I've corrupted the Bootloader. When I turn the phone on, and press the reset button while holding Vol-down, the phone just goes black.
I might be okay getting a warranty exchange if not for this: I can still hard reset my phone. It doesn't make any sense to me, but when I turn it on, I can do the soft-reset-button, Vol-down, Action button combo, and my phone flashes through Bootloader to give the the hard reset menu. It flashes that screen just long enough to see that my phone has 1.90Olinex as the SPL. So, I think I may be screwed, unless someone here can help.
My wife is very . . . upset . . . about this, and is worried that we'll have to spend money because of my continuous "tinkering" with my phone.
Any help anyone can offer is greatly appreciated.
I know this is my own stupid fault, and I should've known better, but it would be nice to get confirmation from the experts here that I'm just going to have to chalk one up in the "L" column at this point.
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Damn I'm sorry to hear about your issue and i feel for ya because I did some stupid **** myself a lil' while back if you remember. Your advice to reflash the oem rom worked for me 100%. Have you tried hard resetting and then trying to get into bootloader mode?
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What radio did you try and flash.
Hopefully it wasn't the new Rhodium radio? Or a Rose radio?
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Ok, I'll tell you . . . it wasn't a Rose radio (I know P1Tater bricked his phone that way) . . . but I figured, the Rhodium, its got the same hardware, right? I mean, T-Mobile is a GSM carrier . . . If I patch it for Raph, it may work . . . even though the radio number is so much different . . . I should still be able to get into Bootloader if it doesn't work, because I'm HardSPL'ed . . .
But no. I can't get into Bootloader. Believe me, I've tried. Every time I try, the phone just goes black. And I have a nice stock AT&T ROM on my Storage Card ready to flash, if only I could get it onto the phone.
I tried plugging into the computer, but it won't recognize the phone at all.
I wish it was REALLY bricked, but the fact that I can still hard reset it is very disappointing.
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Ok, I'll tell you . . . it wasn't a Rose radio (I know P1Tater bricked his phone that way) . . . but I figured, the Rhodium, its got the same hardware, right? I mean, T-Mobile is a GSM carrier . . . If I patch it for Raph, it may work . . . even though the radio number is so much different . . . I should still be able to get into Bootloader if it doesn't work, because I'm HardSPL'ed . . .
But no. I can't get into Bootloader. Believe me, I've tried. Every time I try, the phone just goes black. And I have a nice stock AT&T ROM on my Storage Card ready to flash, if only I could get it onto the phone.
I tried plugging into the computer, but it won't recognize the phone at all.
I wish it was REALLY bricked, but the fact that I can still hard reset it is very disappointing.
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This happened to me (sort of.) I flashed a diamond radio to my fuze... without security unlocking it first. Symptom wise, Exact same thing happened. I was able to (after days of tinkering) get it into bootloader from the hard reset screen. I just kept pressing the Hard rest sequence over and over while connected to USB. I noticed, one time, I got the USB at the bottom. Don't know how, don't know why, it just happened, I was then able to flash the Stock Cing ROM. Wierd stuff, But lucky. Hope you get it back on board. Is it insured? Because it would really suck if someone stole your bricked fuze.
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This happened to me (sort of.) I flashed a diamond radio to my fuze... without security unlocking it first. Symptom wise, Exact same thing happened. I was able to (after days of tinkering) get it into bootloader from the hard reset screen. I just kept pressing the Hard rest sequence over and over while connected to USB. I noticed, one time, I got the USB at the bottom. Don't know how, don't know why, it just happened, I was then able to flash the Stock Cing ROM. Wierd stuff, But lucky. Hope you get it back on board. Is it insured? Because it would really suck if someone stole your bricked fuze.
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It is insured, and paying $125 is better than having to buy a brand new phone, but if I can avoid spending money, my wife would be much happier .
I can hard reset just fine . . . if only the phone would stay on the bootloader screen when doing that . . . but it doesn't. I assume the bootloader has been corrupted, which is why the phone blacks out when trying to enter bootloader mode. I'll keep trying, I guess. I can't make it any worse. Actually, if I could, I'd be better off, so that way they can't find out my phone is Hard-SPL'ed.
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I can hard reset just fine . . . if only the phone would stay on the bootloader screen when doing that . . . but it doesn't. I assume the bootloader has been corrupted, which is why the phone blacks out when trying to enter bootloader mode. I'll keep trying, I guess. I can't make it any worse. Actually, if I could, I'd be better off, so that way they can't find out my phone is Hard-SPL'ed.
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Try plugging it into a car battery, or something like that, and fry the sucker. That's my only piece of advice.
Captain_Throwback said:
I can't make it any worse. Actually, if I could, I'd be better off, so that way they can't find out my phone is Hard-SPL'ed.
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You could make it worse if you get the white sticker wet and make it turn pink, but that would be very bad for you.
You are at the point to where you cant move beyond your current predicament in wither way. Im afraid I see no other alternative than to pay the $125.
Maybe you could sell your Fuze on Ebay for 125 to cover your insurance cost and you could make a notation on the Ebay site saying something like 'PARTIALLY USED FUZE' like that Carfax commercial does.
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My phone is still bricked, but I'm taking it to a repair shop after work, where I'll find out whether I'll be getting a free warranty replacement, or paying $125 for an insurance replacement. At least I've been able to successfully determine that a Rhodium radio cannot be flashed to a Raphael. So no one else has to try it .
Keep us updated dude. Also, if you slip the guy $50 he may do the free warranty replacement for you... it might save you $75 and you wont have to use up one of your insurance claims.
Captain_Throwback said:
My phone is still bricked, but I'm taking it to a repair shop after work, where I'll find out whether I'll be getting a free warranty replacement, or paying $125 for an insurance replacement. At least I've been able to successfully determine that a Rhodium radio cannot be flashed to a Raphael. So no one else has to try it .
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Crap, sorry to hear that. HAAH, just walk into the ATT store and say," I tried turning the phone on and this is what happened." And that you have never heard of XDA forums, roms, and though a radio was only for people in trucks or that wear camo.
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Crap, sorry to hear that. HAAH, just walk into the ATT store and say," I tried turning the phone on and this is what happened." And that you have never heard of XDA forums, roms, and though a radio was only for people in trucks or that wear camo.
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That might work, if I hadn't bought the phone from my best friend, who just happens to manage an AT&T store. He actually knows that I had a custom ROM on my phone, and called ahead to the repair shop to let them know I was coming, and he said hopefully they won't notice the SPL in my bootloader if they try and hard reset it. So it is possible they'll just give the phone a cursory look to make sure its really not working, and then go ahead with a warranty replacement. I'll be sure to let everyone know what happens. In the meantime, the word of the day is "dumbass", LOL.
Farmer Ted said:
Try plugging it into a car battery, or something like that, and fry the sucker. That's my only piece of advice.
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That's what I would do.
Captain_Throwback said:
My phone is still bricked, but I'm taking it to a repair shop after work, where I'll find out whether I'll be getting a free warranty replacement, or paying $125 for an insurance replacement. At least I've been able to successfully determine that a Rhodium radio cannot be flashed to a Raphael. So no one else has to try it .
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Honestly I would not take it to the repair shop.
Here is what I would do. Call the warranty replacement department at AT&T. 1-800-801-1101. Tell them that you woke up and now your phone won't turn on. Once you go through all the steps they have to do to fix it, then they will ship you a replacement Fuze right away. The refurbished Fuze will have everything except for a battery and a back cover. Typically when I did this I received a new one the next day that I called.
Now take your battery out of your phone and your SIM card and microSD card. Put your phone in the microwave for 2 seconds. Walla. Now it's bricked and AT&T will have no way to tell if you have HardSPL or a cooked ROM on your phone. Trust me. It will work.
When you get your new phone just send the phone back in packing material that they provide to you and you won't have to spend any money to get a new phone or spend money to fix a phone.
Just do what I told you about. I promise it will work. Just trust me. I've done it before and it worked like a charm. No worries. Trust me, I'm not trying to lead you down the wrong path. I'm trying to get you a replacement just like I got when I bricked my last fuze trying out different radios. And use the phone number that AllTheWay posted just above me once you do what I told you.
P1Tater said:
Just do what I told you about. I promise it will work. Just trust me. I've done it before and it worked like a charm. No worries. Trust me, I'm not trying to lead you down the wrong path. I'm trying to get you a replacement just like I got when I bricked my last fuze trying out different radios. And use the phone number that AllTheWay posted just above me once you do what I told you.
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I'm curious what it is you told him, in case i'm in a similar position at any point !!
Lemme kno please here or PM is cool!
Thx
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AllTheWay said:
That's what I would do.
Honestly I would not take it to the repair shop.
Here is what I would do. Call the warranty replacement department at AT&T. 1-800-801-1101. Tell them that you woke up and now your phone won't turn on. Once you go through all the steps they have to do to fix it, then they will ship you a replacement Fuze right away. The refurbished Fuze will have everything except for a battery and a back cover. Typically when I did this I received a new one the next day that I called.
Now take your battery out of your phone and your SIM card and microSD card. Put your phone in the microwave for 2 seconds. Walla. Now it's bricked and AT&T will have no way to tell if you have HardSPL or a cooked ROM on your phone. Trust me. It will work.
When you get your new phone just send the phone back in packing material that they provide to you and you won't have to spend any money to get a new phone or spend money to fix a phone.
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Agree with this. If your friend works at the store and knows what you have done, I wouldnt go there. Call the number, fry the damn phone and get a new one. We need you back on your feet to help solve ROM issues my friend.
Hello, i have an htc hd2 leo phone that is dead. I tried flashing hspl2 but get error, i also tried flashing the rom but also get error message...help
hmm, heres a thought, how about telling us what the error says? and the rom you flashed last? and how you flashed, usb sd? what does 'dead' mean? wont boot? wont power on? charge light lit? is it a regular hd2 or a tmous? has it EVER worked for you, or did you get given it dead?
help us to help you.
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hmm, heres a thought, how about telling us what the error says? and the rom you flashed last? and how you flashed, usb sd? what does 'dead' mean? wont boot? wont power on? charge light lit? is it a regular hd2 or a tmous? has it EVER worked for you, or did you get given it dead?
help us to help you.
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Well, i have no idea about this phone...i got this phone from a customer. Its completly dead and wont boot plus and wont show any light too. Is there any way to revive it?
what happens when you try to charge it?
i guess the battery is low, so because of that it doesnt power on.
try to charge this one or use another one.
and PLEASE: ask the costumer what he did to his phone..^^
DN41
DN41 said:
what happens when you try to charge it?
i guess the battery is low, so because of that it doesnt power on.
try to charge this one or use another one.
and PLEASE: ask the costumer what he did to his phone..^^
DN41
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Anyway, forget it...i returned the phone. Thanks guys anyway
Hi people, I have a i777 but the phone does not turn on at all, what happens is that it will turn the screen on when you plug it in, show the battery image for less then a second and do that 2-3 times before it just stays blank. computer doesnt recognize it or do anything when pluged to it.
Left it plugged in to charge and the phone got very hot. I have not attempted anything with the phone its not even rooted, just stopped working.
Please if any one has any tips or anything that can assist I would really appreciate it.
When did you buy it?
Did you try a battery pull, wait a bit, then put it back and connect the charger without turning it on.
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Hi people, I have a i777 but the phone does not turn on at all, what happens is that it will turn the screen on when you plug it in, show the battery image for less then a second and do that 2-3 times before it just stays blank. computer doesnt recognize it or do anything when pluged to it.
Left it plugged in to charge and the phone got very hot. I have not attempted anything with the phone its not even rooted, just stopped working.
Please if any one has any tips or anything that can assist I would really appreciate it.
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I would say return it for a replacement.
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I would say return it for a replacement.
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Yea but first it would be good to remove any personal things and backup what you can before doing so.
Have you tried getting into recovery or download mode.
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Hey guys sry for reviving this thread its just ive been reading and its driving me kinda crazy. ( i miss my Palm !!!)
So i figured out somethings about the phone, It does go into bootloader mode only if i take out the battery and plug it in, with battery it does nothing at all.
Theres so much info about roms and all this other things i cant quite figure exactly what i need to do with the phone. I'm trying to find a stock rom, but like i said i don't know if its the room, bootloader, kernal or what the hell it needs to fix it.
Please anytips or questions or leads that can guide me.
Model is SGH I777
(Also can't really return it or do anything with at&t since I'm in Colombia, plus att just sucks)
Cetus90 said:
Hey guys sry for reviving this thread its just ive been reading and its driving me kinda crazy. ( i miss my Palm !!!)
So i figured out somethings about the phone, It does go into bootloader mode only if i take out the battery and plug it in, with battery it does nothing at all.
Theres so much info about roms and all this other things i cant quite figure exactly what i need to do with the phone. I'm trying to find a stock rom, but like i said i don't know if its the room, bootloader, kernal or what the hell it needs to fix it.
Please anytips or questions or leads that can guide me.
Model is SGH I777
(Also can't really return it or do anything with at&t since I'm in Colombia, plus att just sucks)
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It would be helpful if you could give some details of the problem that you have. We can't just assume that you have the exact same issue that the original poster described in the first post. Please describe your problem in detail. The phone will/won't turn on. The screen is/isn't completely dead. etc.
A little background would also be helpful. How long have you had the phone? Was it working before? Where did you get it? etc.
Need enough information to begin trouble shooting the problem. Will be happy to help if I can.
I had exactly the same problem with my SII. I bought an external charger for the battery, recharged the battery using that and worked fine afterwards (the charger I bought came with a couple of spares which was a bonus as well ;-).
My guess is the battery is empty, leave it on the charger for a bit and try again
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It would be helpful if you could give some details of the problem that you have. We can't just assume that you have the exact same issue that the original poster described in the first post. Please describe your problem in detail. The phone will/won't turn on. The screen is/isn't completely dead. etc.
A little background would also be helpful. How long have you had the phone? Was it working before? Where did you get it? etc.
Need enough information to begin trouble shooting the problem. Will be happy to help if I can.
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LOL creepy he is the op.
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Hey there,
I had a similar problem with my battery, it turns out that the charger I was using essentially fried my battery.
Go to an AT&T store (which stock i777 batteries and USB chargers) and explain your problem to them. If this just happened without installing any ROMs or rooting, there's no reason to flash anything, and it's likely a hardware problem. Explain the problem and they will let you borrow a new battery and charging cable to see if it makes a difference.
Otherwise, if this happened out of the blue like that, without any interventions or changes on your part, you should take the advice of the other posters and make use of your warranty.
- Flaw
Intub8 said:
LOL creepy he is the op.
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Blind... lol
Thanks guys for the responses.
*story is i sold the phone to someone and i brought it back since it was not turning on*
Ive had time now to research a bit on android and this phone.
I think its hard bricked the phone does not go to download mode when you press the keys even with a full battery *charged it in anoher phone*
I can get it into download mode only when he battery is taken out of the phone... Once its in download mode i tried to flash the stock rom with Odin and stock kernel, but when its done flashing the phone tries to restart but nothing happens the screens turns on and off and the bottom keys flash in and out.
Ive read that you can use a Jtag or w/e you call it *the micro usb with the resistors in i* but since im in Colombia its hard to find those type of electronics off he shelf*
Anyway if any one has any thoughts or ideas to fixing it with out the battery in it while its in download mode i would really appriciate it ^_^
thanks again for the responses
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Cetus90 said:
Hi people, I have a i777 but the phone does not turn on at all, what happens is that it will turn the screen on when you plug it in, show the battery image for less then a second and do that 2-3 times before it just stays blank. computer doesnt recognize it or do anything when pluged to it.
Left it plugged in to charge and the phone got very hot. I have not attempted anything with the phone its not even rooted, just stopped working.
Please if any one has any tips or anything that can assist I would really appreciate it.
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Im just asking since you didnt mention it... Did you press the power button for at least 3 seconds? My Grandfather did this. Took back his phone only to discover that he had not pushed the power button long enough to turn it on. Sometimes you never know...
I had this same problem. Discovered it was just a dead battery. Battery in, I get nothing. Battery out and I can see the buttons flash when connected to a power source. So obviously its the battery.
edit: Since I still have the dead battery thought I would test out the download mode. Got it to boot into download mode without the battery, then started to put in the battery. As soon as the contacts touched, my phone turned off. No idea what happened to this battery..
Cetus90 said:
Thanks guys for the responses.
*story is i sold the phone to someone and i brought it back since it was not turning on*
Ive had time now to research a bit on android and this phone.
I think its hard bricked the phone does not go to download mode when you press the keys even with a full battery *charged it in anoher phone*
I can get it into download mode only when he battery is taken out of the phone... Once its in download mode i tried to flash the stock rom with Odin and stock kernel, but when its done flashing the phone tries to restart but nothing happens the screens turns on and off and the bottom keys flash in and out.
Ive read that you can use a Jtag or w/e you call it *the micro usb with the resistors in i* but since im in Colombia its hard to find those type of electronics off he shelf*
Anyway if any one has any thoughts or ideas to fixing it with out the battery in it while its in download mode i would really appriciate it ^_^
thanks again for the responses
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Not sure what you used to flash back to stock, but if you didn't try it already, I would try the full stock package with bootloaders, param.lfs and all. Go to the Download Repository and flash the I777UCKH7-CL503881 Stock Binaries. The one-click downloader would be fine.
As far as the battery goes, even though you charged it in another phone, it may still be faulty. To test, use a known good battery from another phone.
Oh, and one other thing. Just curious, was the phone working normally when you sold it?
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Not sure what you used to flash back to stock, but if you didn't try it already, I would try the full stock package with bootloaders, param.lfs and all. Go to the Download Repository and flash the I777UCKH7-CL503881 Stock Binaries. The one-click downloader would be fine.
As far as the battery goes, even though you charged it in another phone, it may still be faulty. To test, use a known good battery from another phone.
Oh, and one other thing. Just curious, was the phone working normally when you sold it?
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Yes it was working.
Thanks alot for that info ill try it tonight or tomorrow!
Also i think ill be making a video showing whats going on and ill get a battery from a friend to test out, thanks alot again this really has helped me understand more ^^
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Yes it was working.
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Seems to me you were generous to take it back. I wouldn't be surprised if the person flashed some firmware not intended for the I777, with bootloaders and param.lfs and such.
Yeah but kinda had a deal so not loosing much but i still want to fix it.
Let me ask you guys will it be fine to flash without the battery in the phone? Since it does open up the bootloader to and Odin detects it.