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Hi there! I have an MDA II and a Parrot CK-3000 (with sw ver. 3.13) carkit. I read about the outcoming of this sw and I decided to install it on my MDAII. But, after a correct installing procedure, it simply doesn't work: my carkit remains mute like a fish!!! :shock: I'm asking you, guys already use successfully this sw, a hand of help to solve my trouble (if possible). Note that I downloaded it from this
http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/index_e.html
and I tried to follow all the instructions placed in there...
Thank you all!
pap
paperuccio said:
Hi there! I have an MDA II and a Parrot CK-3000 (with sw ver. 3.13) carkit. I read about the outcoming of this sw and I decided to install it on my MDAII. But, after a correct installing procedure, it simply doesn't work: my carkit remains mute like a fish!!! :shock: I'm asking you, guys already use successfully this sw, a hand of help to solve my trouble (if possible). Note that I downloaded it from this
http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/index_e.html
and I tried to follow all the instructions placed in there...
Thank you all!
pap
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Why not email the author, he is most helpful.
Had the same issue with the Parrot. My Plantronics headset works a treat, but not the Parrot.
I mailed the author who confirmed there are some problems and a new release will be needed.
As the author is doing this work unpaid and the functionality is so good, I can wait.
@ mrg2003
I send an e-mail some days ago but still had no response.
Anyway, I agree with IanF and I'll wait for the new release.
I wish I read this bulletin board more often.
Yes, I have exactly the same problem with the CK3000 (v3.13) and PBT. HBH-35 works a treat but CK3000 does not bond (XDA thinks it does but there is no handshaking and CK3000 repeats request to bond).
Back to basics again ...
Incidentally, does anyone know if Tobias plans to engineer a way to trigger Voice Command and take input from the car microphone for voice recognition? Would be the dogs and well worth a major donation ....
Cheers
I've had some problems with pocket bluetooth. I have emailed tobias as follows and am awaiting a reply. Was wondering if anyone has faced similar problems:
Tobias,
Thanks for all the hard work in getting these tools working. I have just bought an XDAII with the latest 1.60.00 ROM using the 1.10.00 radio version.
At the same time, I have a WIDCOMM bluetooth dongle on my PC which supports numerous profiles including the headset profile, which allows me to use the PC's speakers and mic as a 'headset' with the XDAII.
I set up the XDAII with the PC, using the built-in bluetooth bonding and pairing application and managed to get it all working fine with the PC using the speakers and the mic as the headset, with the phone automatically transferring the call to the PC when the 'Bluetooth Headset mode is enabled' shows on the today screen. Furthermore, activesync also seems to work fine too.
After installing Pocket Bluetooth Tools, the headset stops working. Before installing it, I unpaired the device by deleting it from the list of paired devices. After installation and going through the process of pairing the device again, it correctly gives me the option to choose the Serial Port, ActiveSync, Modem, and Headset profile. I select all of these and click on OK. Once this happens, my PC gives me a message saying that the XDAII has connected with the headset. However, this doesn’t happen once but goes into a continuous loop giving me notifications every 2-3 seconds that this is the case. Furthermore, when making a call to see if the voice has been transferred to the PC< this stops working and the XDAII's speaker and mic continue to be used. The only way to stop the constant loop of connections is to switch off the bluetooth radio on the XDAII. Furthermore, when deleting the pairing from the XDAII this constant loop continues.
Have you faced this issue previously, as I think it may be a bug. The only reason I installed pocket Bluetooth is that my current b.tooth headset is a Nokia HDW-30 that supports the handsfree profile and your documentation states that Pocket Bluetooth tools supports this profile.
Let me know if there is a fix for this.
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Why not email the author, he is most helpful.[/quote]
maybe just because he doesn't answer
i wrote a very long report some days after the long awaited new version came out in april, but haven't got any reply. (maybe my email got lost - who knows ...)
i have exactly the same problems. i also have a parrot ck3000 (tried with firmware 3.11 and 3.13) and an mda2 with rom 1.6.00GER and extROM 1.60.07. the two devices pair, and sometime i can even select the "headphone profile" afterwards. i even managed to make it work ONCE, after several hours, of installing, reinstalling, pairing, reparing, ect, ect ...
what did work once was making calls. but after the first call came in, i could answer it, the caller could hear me, but i couldn't hear anything. this happened twice and then i just turned off bt and used the mobile as always.
as i'm using my mda in my car for work and not for fun this is no solution for me . i went back to the original bt stack that works quite well. i can make and take calls w/o any problems.
one thing i'd like to see changed (as soon as parrot and mda work together) is, that ALL calls are made via the handsfree, as, as long i'm in the car it HAVE TO use the handsfree by law (and it's much more comfortable anyway). it's not practicle to dial with the mobile, and then by pressing the green button on the parrot to move the call to the handsfree. but that's the only way you can do it when using speeddial.
another thing i desperately miss is a way to change the volume of the handsfree. i could do this using the volume slider of my nokia 6310, but volume stays all the same when using the mda. and it's just too low when doing higher speeds on the autobahn
of course voice dialing would be a great feature to have ... but it's not that necessary.
please don't get me wrong .. i'm don't want to be ungrateful as i'm not paying for this software - i just want to help ppl by saying that they are not alone with their problem and they should give up wasting their time and better wait for a new release....
and of course i'm very willing to PAY for that software as well as soon as it is any improvement over the original bt stack (for me of course. for most of you it already is)
maybe TOWA could say some words here. that would be really appreciated.
thanks anyway a lot to all ppl that spend their free time developing software and providing it to the comunity!!! thumbs up !
regards ize|man
Bluetooth tools and ROM 1.72
Does ROM version 1.72 require TOWA's bluetooth tools? In this ROM, there are options for COM port selection etc under Bluetooth settings and the clubimate site mentions bluetooth improvements. Anyone with this info?
other com settings then
Inbound COM port com4
outbound COM port com5
??
if so what are they?
Rudegar
You are right. Inbound 4, outbound 5. Likely required for GPS devices, if i am not mistaken
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Rudegar
You are right. Inbound 4, outbound 5. Likely required for GPS devices, if i am not mistaken
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These are the ports for BT beaming, as I understand! (not for BT GPS).
For BT GPS you do not specifically need BTHTools anymore (since 1.66) because WM can install a BT GPS com at first bonding.
Something is different however (vs BTHTools) since with 1 application (Alturion) I can not get the BT GPS working anymore, which can also not be solved by still installing BTHTools!! (while I have no problems with my other application TT. Figure that out?!)
Ronald
I now have the same problem, the parrot ck3000 was working until I insatlle dthe bluetooth tools, and now it doesn't.
Its a shame I did not see this thread before
Will the 1.72 rom work with both parrot and my emtac bluetooth gps?
Cheers
Justinp
justinp
have you tried uninstalling Bluetoothtools?
no not yet, I might give that a go, but then my gps wont work :?
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no not yet, I might give that a go, but then my gps wont work :?
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I think it will still work!
With my working application (TT3) I see the GPS on COM5 (installed by WM) + on COM7 (installed by BTHTools) + on the BT/SIRF interface!
If I uninstall BTHTools I only loose the selection for COM7. The other two selections still work!
Of course you must have acknowledged the WM com installation with first bonding (in any case for the serial operation)! My BT/SIRF connection always works in TT3 regardless of WM/BTHTools installation of serial ports.
Ronald
I'm also having that strange problem with the parrot CK3000. I did install the previous version of BT but I don't see any difference with or without BT. But when I de-install and want to go back to the original state, the same problem persist. Is there any way to download anyware the original Bluetooth stack without re-install everything (and loosing all my settings and software)?
Thanks for helping out.
Frank.
I just got my XDA II and loving it. This is my first post here, I've been looking for a great XDA site and now I found one.
First question is, how do you guys find all those ROM updates and Radio Stack upgrade? I have 1.60.00WWE and Radio version 1.08.00. Is there a new rom upgrade out there that I can't find in myxda.com site?
Second question, could I replace the Microsoft Bluetooth stack so I can use my bluetooth headset to listen to music or videos?
Thank you for your time,
Eberhard
I can answer the second question, the bluetooth on the xda2 does not allow listening to music through bluetooth headset neither has the full handsfree/headset profile been implemented. A very clever person has however written a program called pocket bluetooth tools which go some way to addressing some of the shortcoming regarding serial port profiles. Some of the later roms however have negated the need for this program. Run a search on this forum for "bluetooth", make sure you have an hour or two to spare.
powerppc said:
I just got my XDA II and loving it. This is my first post here, I've been looking for a great XDA site and now I found one.
First question is, how do you guys find all those ROM updates and Radio Stack upgrade? I have 1.60.00WWE and Radio version 1.08.00. Is there a new rom upgrade out there that I can't find in myxda.com site?
Second question, could I replace the Microsoft Bluetooth stack so I can use my bluetooth headset to listen to music or videos?
Thank you for your time,
Eberhard
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As you know,the Xda 2 is name by thousand of other names like MDA2,I-Mate pocket pc phone,Q-tek 2020,etc..
The official upgrades you can find everywhere,especially on the company site like: www.clubimate.com (I-Mate)
www.myxda.com (Xda-O2)
www.qtek.nu (Q-tek)
Who let you download the newest upgrade by free.
-Actually there isn't such implemetantion on curent bluettoh stack but,have you tryed installing the new Bluetooth hacked Stack from Widcomm?
I give u the link for Access the Lan over Bluetooth,then you will find the link to the download of the Stack named BluetoothGPS.zip
http://en.pdamobiz.com/en/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=32&PN=1
Regards,
Ser
Thanks for all the tips you guys given me. I tried bluetooth stack and so far it works.
As for the hack on the bluetooth, I'm going to try it now.
But it still don't fulfill my satisfaction as I can't listen to music thru my bluetooth headset, at least not with bluetooth tools.
Thanks again, I hope this bluetooth hack will solve my needs to listen to music over my headset.
what hack are you guys talking about ??
i ve installed widcomm stack and the kai patch. when the widcomm manager connects to the headset it gives beeping sounds but after i answer the beeps there is no sound on my imate or the headset..
what hack are you guys talking about ??
Well, I tried the Widcomm BT tools and the darn thing don't work. 2 Bluetooth Icon Appeared on the bottom and I tried to connect my Headset and it doesn't want to stay connected when I hit the connect button. It would sound on but then it turns off and I can't answer a call with it.
Does Widcomm BT has to be installed with the Bluetooth Tools?
I have searched across all the forums and have noted that the Hermes does not pair with a Cars built in blue-tooth radio allowing sound through the built-in speakers.
Does anyone have an update to this issue or is it just a case that WM6/Hermes and integral vehicle bluetooth simply do not work.
I have tried upteen ROM updates to no avail. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. BTW I have paired the brand new car (Fiat) successfully with a Nokia 5300, XDA Exec (WM6.1) and XDA IIi (WM2003)
Thank you all in anticipation.
291 said:
I have searched across all the forums and have noted that the Hermes does not pair with a Cars built in blue-tooth radio allowing sound through the built-in speakers.
Does anyone have an update to this issue or is it just a case that WM6/Hermes and integral vehicle bluetooth simply do not work.
I have tried upteen ROM updates to no avail. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. BTW I have paired the brand new car (Fiat) successfully with a Nokia 5300, XDA Exec (WM6.1) and XDA IIi (WM2003)
Thank you all in anticipation.
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Pairing a Hermes with a Bluetooth Car Kit is certainly possible, and indeed routine. I have successfully paired with my two Ford cars, with a variety of WM5, WM6 and WM6.1 ROMs.
I merely followed the usual steps to set up a partnership, and ensured that the partnership was set as 'Hands Free' on the final page of the setup process.
So my experience is - no dramas, and I can't see why you are having problems. The car is, after all, just acting as a Bluetooth headset.
Transfer of contacts to your Car Kit is a bit more problamatical, as you have to set up Bluetooth Sim Access Protocol (BT SAP), to give the car, as it says, access to your sim card.
Hi and thanks for the response.
I have no problem pairing the hermes and it reads all my contact information and does everything I would expect save for the sound; I don't get any sound from the cars speakers and yet it all works perfectly with other makes/models of phone/pda.
I suppose the problem would be easier to solve if none of it worked but it does. I watch the car screen as it tells me I am making a phone call from my address book and I can see calls coming in but I cannot use the microphone on the PDA nor hear anything via the pda or the car's speakers. The XDA Exec (WM6) Nokia 5300 and XDAIIi (WM2003) work flawlessly (I borrowed those from my friends).
Thanks once again.
291 said:
I have searched across all the forums and have noted that the Hermes does not pair with a Cars built in blue-tooth radio allowing sound through the built-in speakers.
Does anyone have an update to this issue or is it just a case that WM6/Hermes and integral vehicle bluetooth simply do not work.
I have tried upteen ROM updates to no avail. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. BTW I have paired the brand new car (Fiat) successfully with a Nokia 5300, XDA Exec (WM6.1) and XDA IIi (WM2003)
Thank you all in anticipation.
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291,
I've had the same problem...
But found this program... From JetWare Mobile - Its not free but there's a trial period to at least see if this fixes your problem...
http://www.jetwaremobile.com
Now My bluetooth on phone and car works flawlessly, including: Music connection (can play Mp3's from phone and contacts loaded to the car stereo) I was even able to get Voice Commander to work through the car stereo but could not get announcements to work (a known issue with VC 1.6)
Look at this post, may help...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290871&highlight=75BT
Hermes with RT4 system
I have got th esame problems with my hermes and my Jumpy with RT4 and bluetooth connection. I can drive my hermes, make a call by the way of the RT4 but speakers and mic are out. The only solutions to make them working is to make call by my hermes ans after RT4 working good and for and incoming call, accept it by the way of my Hermes. With this solution, I can ear ans speak unsing bluetooth system. If some one can help me, thank a lot...
I have a problem, I tried it several times to connect my HTC Touch Pro Trough Bleutooth with my Pioneer AVIC D3, but with out succes, My Avic D3 is seeing a Device but with out a name I know it's my Touch pro ,but some how the Handsfree fuinction does not work de Bleutooth audio funciton works but I have to pair it every time when I start my car, the differenc is when I use my old Sony ericsson W900I, every thing works perfect, with no problem it even connects automaticly, but with my HTC Touch Pro and my HTC X7501 without succes, can somebody help me with this problem, because I have this problem for a year all ready,
With greetings from the netherlands Iwan
Hey Iwan in the Netherlands,
I don't have the pioneer, but did play with one in the store recently. I know your trying to pair the phone to the radio, but actually, I think it should be the other way around. Try this:
Set the radio on discovery
Using the HTC, search for new devices
The radio's model number should appear
Check both boxes for audio streaming and hands free.
Hope this helps & works.
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Hey Iwan in the Netherlands,
I don't have the pioneer, but did play with one in the store recently. I know your trying to pair the phone to the radio, but actually, I think it should be the other way around. Try this:
Set the radio on discovery
Using the HTC, search for new devices
The radio's model number should appear
Check both boxes for audio streaming and hands free.
Hope this helps & works.
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I tried this already but after that I found the pioneer,I checked both boxes, for audio streaming and handsfree but some how the handsfree function won't work, so I don't know what this Could be, somebody help me please
You need to use Jetware. http://www.jetwaremobile.com
Works for me, same two devices.
bigray327 said:
You need to use Jetware. http://www.jetwaremobile.com
Works for me, same two devices.
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Yep, same here worth the $$ I have the avic-d3 with the bluetooth addon, it even streams the bluetooth audio mp3's. Unable to sync the phone book though.
Hi all,
We all know that rSAP is not supported by Android
Those with carkits (VW, Audi, etc) with this profile cannot use their Android phone. A massive disappointment.
What will it take to get someone write some code to get this bluetooth profile to work on - for starters - the basic Froyo code for Nexus?
I'd be happy to kick off a project with a $150 donation or an HTC Hero (such as for testing).
Assuming we can get more people together who are interested in this (I am positive!), the big question remains - who would be able to write the required code?
MC
+1
We need rSAP
Sent from my Nexus One using Tapatalk
In Android issue 4402 (not permitted to post outside links, just go to the google code page and search for 4402) about the rSap profile some people are reporting that the Samsung Galaxy S (I9000) does have the rSap profile and does successfully connect to VW/Audi premium carkits.
In the Galaxy S forums are some roms (including a MCR rom for the Galaxy S) ... so there might be some possibility to port some code from the Galaxy S to the Nexus One
TFox said:
In Android issue 4402 (not permitted to post outside links, just go to the google code page and search for 4402) about the rSap profile some people are reporting that the Samsung Galaxy S (I9000) does have the rSap profile and does successfully connect to VW/Audi premium carkits.
In the Galaxy S forums are some roms (including a MCR rom for the Galaxy S) ... so there might be some possibility to port some code from the Galaxy S to the Nexus One
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Thanks, I found it and repeated my post there as well.
I really hope that someone can come up with something. Surely, as you say it works on the Galaxy S, one must be able to get this to work on the Nexus One, or any other Android phone for that matter.
Hoping to see some more replies here! Or maybe a recommendation of a programmer who might be able to do this.
Cheers, MC
Hi, I have the RSAP working on an Samsung galaxy i9000 wich my Audi built in car phone. The only hing bugging is the sync of phonebok. It synces alright, but with phone conacts only. It took me a while to realize that phone conacts and my primarily used exchange contact list are two different things in this setting. First I had believed it synces only sim contacts. While this is not the problem, I have not found a way yet to "replicate" the synced exchange contacts or map them to the phone phonebok from business contacts, wich would make them visible to the carphone via rSAP.
maybe someone here knows a solution or an app that would solve this? The rSAP itself works, as Samsung has implemented it into the Galaxy i9000.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
I will exceed the OP's donation and donate $151 who ever manages to crack the rSAP on Android. Samsing just made the sourcecode (search: Samsung releases Captivate source code) so there seems to also be a ZIP file for the GT-I9000 (European Samsung Galaxy S).
I am stuck with TouchHD for my VW PremiumGSM, and would love to get an Android.
Cheers and keep it up devs!!
+1!
plz, an app for rsap on n1!
Android on GSM... maybe, but limited; CDMA not likely
According to a post 4402, "rSAP allows different devices to connect to your mobile's SIM Card to read your contacts etc. The car than uses its own antenna and gsm Module to call. The mobile phone goes in a stand by mode which needs very low energy."
If this is true, then your rSAP-bluetooth connection is actually hijacking your sim card ID and using it to place calls and receive calls through the car's integrated GSM radio, and not actually synching as it seems. In this case (in the US), there is no Verizon or Sprint fix because neither network uses SIM card (chip based ID profiles) technology, and furthermore, both their networks are CDMA and therefore incompatible with Bentley, VW and Audi GSM modules. If the connection could be bridged, the car's GSM radio would be seeking access to a network the CDMA user is not subscribed to.
So the definitive end is that as long as you have a VAG auto, you better have an rSAP GSM phone to use with it.
Ironically, Apple iPhones are GSM and they have had a longstanding good relationship with VAG, so I am surprised to find them boxed out of compatibility with Audi and VW especially. I am not certain, but it could have something to do with Apple's unique provisioning architecture is as much as they do not have a readily accessible SIM card (or battery), and in doing so, they are not respecting the need for SIM portability.
When I worked at a multi-carrier mobile phone reseller years ago, I briefly had a SIM-card based phone that I could then take the SIM card from and insert it into any GSM phone (from the same carrier) and use that phone to place and receive calls. This same migration can be effected in CDMA technology, but only through over-the-air provisioning, and that process is not as immediate as the rSAP SIM takeover process seems to be.
I'll keep looking into this matter, but perhaps the upgrade we should be barking for is to have VAG integrate support for the same bluetooth profile (HFP) that BMW does. BMWs from 2007 on with bluetooth will connect to my Droid X all day. rSAP just overtakes your SIM id and uses it to place and receive calls on the car's GSM radio. Of course it also can access a portion of your Address Book, but after that, you are stuck with the features offered in your car's radio and no longer have full utility of your Droid phone features and apps, etc. As a result, Google Voice search will be a non-starter for Android rSAP unless the car's GSM radio is actually running Android OS as well. And how likely is that...
maybe this could help?
http://allforfreelancers.com/getafr...Android-iPhone-J2ME-Nokia-Symbian-726296.html
Rsap works..but no Bluetooth audio
Hi,
I got my I9000 working on my Premium Bluetooth in my VW Passat. However I cannot figure out how to get the Bluetooth Audio (in the Media Secion of the car display) working. I have enabled it in settings in the car. AUX works, SD-card works.. but bluetooth audio I just cannot figure out.
Does any1 know?
I have a NTG1 Comand in my Mercedes, and the rSAP conection works like charme, with the SGS(2.2.1 jpy).
Only thing that not works is the PBAP so only my sim card contacs r listed!
Mike
tommylad said:
Hi,
I got my I9000 working on my Premium Bluetooth in my VW Passat. However I cannot figure out how to get the Bluetooth Audio (in the Media Secion of the car display) working. I have enabled it in settings in the car. AUX works, SD-card works.. but bluetooth audio I just cannot figure out.
Does any1 know?
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Hi, Bluetooth Audio works exactly as it works with bluetooth headset: you need to launch a music player on the phone and then the audio will be transfered to your car's speakers. I just got my new VW Touran and SGS works almost fine with it (having troubles with the contacts with emails, which are not synced to the car). I think I'm going to get an SDHC card for my music (Media-IN works great with a usb drive).
Cheers