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Hello,
I just noticed there are many Mini-USB to 3.5 (or 2.5) audio adapters on sale at e-Bay, like this.
All of them seem to be for Motorola phones, though. Anyone has tried on the TyTN?
I seem to remember reading somewhere in GENERAL that they would not. Someone asked HTC and they said it was propietry - but they would have an adapter out soon(ish).
Rich
I can't see why it shouldn't work... it's just £5 so what's the loss if it doesn't...
EDIT: I've bought one today. I'll tell if it works or not....
The port is NOT proprietary. It is a standard mini-USB, and takes standard mini-USB cables.
They tweaked the socket a little bit to go along with their new proprietary headset.
In other words, you can plug in any standard mini-usb cable/accessory, but you can't plug the headset into any standard mini-usb port.
Sorta "dain-bramaged" if you ask me, but since I use a bluetooth headset, it's a non-issue.
Charge and audio simulataneously?
So, how do I both charge the unit and listen to music (wired headphones) at the same time? Does anyone know?
There is an alternative to an adapter. As they say on Blue Peter, here's one I made earlier.......
http://www.4winmobile.com/tutorial-replace-hermes-headset-connector-with-35mm-socket-vt3146.html
I asked htc for an adapter
here ist the answer:
Dear Sir
At present HTC does not manufacture, supply or support such a connection and HTC cannot supply such a diagram.
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Re: Charge and audio simulataneously?
Manne said:
So, how do I both charge the unit and listen to music (wired headphones) at the same time? Does anyone know?
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Easy answer: get an iPod! :lol:
Hello,
I tried one of those "motorola / razr" headphone adapters on sale at ebay. while the adapter fits nicely it doesn't work. Tytn just doesn't seem to recognize it.
Any thoughts of why it doesn't work and alternatives greatly appreciated.
Hello,
I tried one of those "motorola / razr" headphone adapters on sale at ebay. while the adapter fits nicely it doesn't work. Tytn just doesn't seem to recognize it.
Any thoughts of why it doesn't work and alternatives greatly appreciated.
I seem to remember reading somewhere in GENERAL that they would not. Someone asked HTC and they said it was propietry
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If you look at the connector the motorola one has 5 pins across the top of the it. If you look at the Tytn on it has 5 pins across the top and 6 across the bottom. In order to be compatible with current chargers the top 5 pins supply the charging and the bottom 6 supply headset and serial connections.
I do not intend to use the "Line out" function of my TyTN often but it DOES lack an audio output. Sometimes I need to connect the device to speakers and etc.
It should be a modified mini USB port that the TyTN has and that must have saved some space over traditional 2.5mm sockets. We all know 2.5 sockets are not common and you need an apaptor to change it to 3.5mm anyway so prolly HTC gave up on the 2.5 and made the USB standard.
I am pretty sure that some accessory will come out.
Does anyone know if the Ebay adaptor cable will work on the TyTN?
Most of the ebay adapters are standard usb mini for use with the razor etc. These will not work. It needs to be an adapter specifically for the Tytn.
thanks! It is really stupid for HTC not to launch any accessories for the TyTN(or other releases).
Like the Atom Exec has factory cradle kit, battery, silicon cases, leather straps and etc. I don't even know where to get an extra battery!
Thought of one of these:
http://www.audiocubes.com/product_info.php?products_id=1736
zakeen said:
Thought of one of these:
http://www.audiocubes.com/product_info.php?products_id=1736
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has anyone tested it?
is it working with tytn ?
for a hundred something i can get a pair of entry level high end SHURE headphones or even one with the mic.. all I need is a 2.5 Plug.
for a hundred something i can get a pair of entry level high end SHURE headphones or even one with the mic.. all I need is a 2.5 Plug.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Stereo-Audio-Ad...58QQihZ007QQcategoryZ3311QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Anyone used these yet?
Does anyone use a Kensington or Targus AC power adapter? If so what number tip are you using? I have both and Targus came with a couple of adaptors that fit but I am not willing try them and fry my shift. Sent an email to both companies asking if they have a tip that supports the shift but no reply yet.
I like univeral power suppplies since all I have to do is carry one power supply and the a couple of different tips for the the various devices I take with me instead of 5 different power supplies when I travel. So far I cannot find one that lists the HTC shift.
update from Kensington
Well i did get a reply back from Kensington but it looks they don't support the shift yet
Subject
(Info) power adaptor tip for the HTC SHIF/X9500
Discussion Thread
Response (Asif Ali) 05/01/2008 04:44 PM
Dear steve:
Thank you for contacting Kensington Technical Support.
I understand your situation. I would like to inform you that according to the Specification of HTC Shift X9500, it is having DC output: 12Vdc, 3A max. Although we have Power Adapter which can handle this specification, yet we do not have the smartTip which will provide the exact specification. There might be a possibility that a smartTip may snugfit into the power port of the device as discussed in the forum, but again it depends on the smartTip to regulate the voltage. If it fails to regulate the proper voltage, it may harm the device.
We hope that your question has been answered to your satisfaction. Should you have further questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact us again.
Regards,
Asif Ali
Kensington Technical Support
I am currently using the Targus AC70u with tip #3
On the back is says Targus APA10 AC Power Adapter
Outputs: 15-24V ....65W Max
I have been using for several weeks without a problem. I keep this one at my office and the original one at home.
x5-rwk said:
I am currently using the Targus AC70u with tip #3
On the back is says Targus APA10 AC Power Adapter
Outputs: 15-24V ....65W Max
I have been using for several weeks without a problem. I keep this one at my office and the original one at home.
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Thanks x5-rwk!!!!!!
#3 was one of the two tips that seemed to fit I tested tehm without any power in the shift. I was to chicken to try it with power and smoke test my new my toy!
I have same Targus AC70u. Now I can take the Targus with me for the shift and all my other devices and leave the original one at home same as you.
Car charger as well?
Again thanks to x5-rwk, I can also confirm the Targus 70w Model APA10 with the #3 tips works as AC charger. I started looking at the Targus site and found this add-on for the APA10 it also uses the same tips. From what I understand it is the tips that regulate the voltage so this could be a car charger for the shift!? I ordered one from Amazon and will report back if it works.
Targus Universal Auto/Dual Digital Device Adapter
http://www.targus.com/us/product_details.asp?sku=APP2001US
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Again thanks to x5-rwk, I can also confirm the Targus 70w Model APA10 with the #3 tips works as AC charger. I started looking at the Targus site and found this add-on for the APA10 it also uses the same tips. From what I understand it is the tips that regulate the voltage so this could be a car charger for the shift!? I ordered one from Amazon and will report back if it works.
Targus Universal Auto/Dual Digital Device Adapter
http://www.targus.com/us/product_details.asp?sku=APP2001US
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NOPE The tips (connectors) for the digital devices that you can connect for this add on to the Targus charger are a different pin out so you cant use the lap connectors with it. Only the one for for cell phone etc.
Back to searching.
stormforger said:
Again thanks to x5-rwk, I can also confirm the Targus 70w Model APA10 with the #3 tips works as AC charger. I started looking at the Targus site and found this add-on for the APA10 it also uses the same tips. From what I understand it is the tips that regulate the voltage so this could be a car charger for the shift!? I ordered one from Amazon and will report back if it works.
Targus Universal Auto/Dual Digital Device Adapter
http://www.targus.com/us/product_details.asp?sku=APP2001US
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Glad to hear that the AC charger is working for you, sorry that the vehicle charger is not working out so well. I was going to place an order for one recently but have not done it yet.
iGo is good
I have an iGo charger I've used for about 4 years and I have a tip that fits and it charges just fine - I would suspect that the Kensington and Targus ones would work the same way. They are supposed to figure out the power load and deliver it in the right way . . . .
BTW it connects to laptop connector, not the cellphone one.
The Targus/Kensington/iGo tips are interchangeable between vendors (personal experience) so you should be fine. If it fits,it'll work
So which tip #?
Which igo tip are you using with the Shift successfully?
Thanks,
Rob
Sorry to dredge up an old thread, but can any of you who are sucessfully using Targus tip #3 tell me which laptops that tip is intended for (make & model, please)? I have a collection of Kensington adapters and tips, and it seems like some Toshiba tips fit, but I'm also scared to fry my Shift (especially as that tip outputs 19V). If I knew, however, that the tip I am trying is intended for the same machines as Targus #3, then presumably the specs are the same.
Thanks for the help.
Hi,
I have used multiple chargers.
As long as the voltage does not exceed 12V and the polarity is correct your shift shouldn't fry.
Lower Voltages don't harm the shift either. The shift just doesn't "feel" it's there.
I even had the polarity wrong once. The charge lite came on, but it didn't charge... I found out within minutes end corrected it, but my shift still works fine and teh battery doesnot seem to be damaged. (I don't know what would have happened if I would have left it like that overnigt though...)
greetz,
Pfeffa-rah
A cautionary tale
A follow up to my prior post, and cautionary tale:
I recently flew transatlantic on Virgin Atlantic (VS). While VS has in seat power available, due (I think) to UK government regulations there are two restrictions on use:
1) You need to use an adapter supplied by VS (they carry them onboard), not your own.
2) You need to remove the battery, so that you can only power your laptop, not recharge it.
The adapters that VS supplies are rebadged Targus equipment. Here’s the list of available adapters. Based on this thread and some testing of my own at home with my Kensington universal adapters, I felt confident that tip #3 would work. Note, however, that I tested what I had at home with a multimeter, and it registered 19V. Nevertheless, on the plane asked for #3 for my “Fujitsu”. Took out the battery and had no problem powering the Shift. Started to watch my movie.
About 10 minutes later, I noticed that the in seat entertainment screens of all the seats around me went out. I thought it was lucky I had my Shift with some movies stored.
10 minutes after that, the flight attendant came over, very apologetic, to say that a circuit breaker kept blowing for the entertainment system, and indicated an overload fault at my seat. We did some basic troubleshooting, switched the Targus adapter, and confirmed that everything was fine until the Shift was connected (Targus without Shift was OK), at which point they say the warning light. I was very politely asked if I could run on battery for the rest of the flight, which I did.
The incident has me worried though. We all assume that if the Shift doesn’t blow up, all is well. In fact the adapter may be trying to drive too high a voltage through the Shift, leading to feedback. A home electrical system with a 20A breaker may not be sensitive enough to detect this, but an aircraft system might be.
The other thing that concerns me is that I may have experienced problems specifically because I had my battery out. What I suspect is that the battery may be acting like a sponge, absorbing the excess energy. With the battery out, the power feeds back into the adapter and ultimately the power source circuit breaker. If true, this means we are likely putting an overcurrent into our batteries whenever we use one of these 19V adapters. Eventually, the battery could overheat and catch fire (remember the Dell and Sony battery recalls?). My story could have been a fluke, but personally, I would stay away from adapters except one designed for the Shift, or at least one which outputs 12V.
The Kensington N3 tip does work- and while I agree that caution should be taken with charging precious devices, the kensington universal power adapters are designed to charge phones, PDA's MP3 players & laptops. Bearing in mind that PDA's are 5v $ laptops are 19.5V and the Kensington can charge anything in between. . . I've not had problem so far!
bram1 said:
A follow up to my prior post, and cautionary tale:
I recently flew transatlantic on Virgin Atlantic (VS). While VS has in seat power available, due (I think) to UK government regulations there are two restrictions on use:
1) You need to use an adapter supplied by VS (they carry them onboard), not your own.
2) You need to remove the battery, so that you can only power your laptop, not recharge it.
The adapters that VS supplies are rebadged Targus equipment. Here’s the list of available adapters. Based on this thread and some testing of my own at home with my Kensington universal adapters, I felt confident that tip #3 would work. Note, however, that I tested what I had at home with a multimeter, and it registered 19V. Nevertheless, on the plane asked for #3 for my “Fujitsu”. Took out the battery and had no problem powering the Shift. Started to watch my movie.
About 10 minutes later, I noticed that the in seat entertainment screens of all the seats around me went out. I thought it was lucky I had my Shift with some movies stored.
10 minutes after that, the flight attendant came over, very apologetic, to say that a circuit breaker kept blowing for the entertainment system, and indicated an overload fault at my seat. We did some basic troubleshooting, switched the Targus adapter, and confirmed that everything was fine until the Shift was connected (Targus without Shift was OK), at which point they say the warning light. I was very politely asked if I could run on battery for the rest of the flight, which I did.
The incident has me worried though. We all assume that if the Shift doesn’t blow up, all is well. In fact the adapter may be trying to drive too high a voltage through the Shift, leading to feedback. A home electrical system with a 20A breaker may not be sensitive enough to detect this, but an aircraft system might be.
The other thing that concerns me is that I may have experienced problems specifically because I had my battery out. What I suspect is that the battery may be acting like a sponge, absorbing the excess energy. With the battery out, the power feeds back into the adapter and ultimately the power source circuit breaker. If true, this means we are likely putting an overcurrent into our batteries whenever we use one of these 19V adapters. Eventually, the battery could overheat and catch fire (remember the Dell and Sony battery recalls?). My story could have been a fluke, but personally, I would stay away from adapters except one designed for the Shift, or at least one which outputs 12V.
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drummerboy said:
The Kensington N3 tip does work- and while I agree that caution should be taken with charging precious devices, the kensington universal power adapters are designed to charge phones, PDA's MP3 players & laptops. Bearing in mind that PDA's are 5v $ laptops are 19.5V and the Kensington can charge anything in between. . . I've not had problem so far!
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I can't speak for the Shift, but I just fried a Touch HD using my Kensington power adapter
A quick search of the Kensington website returned the following FAQ:
Question: Are there some USB devices which the USB Mobile Device Charger won't charge?
Answer: Yes. Some devices, such as a PS3 controller or an HTC phone, have a proprietary chip which only allow the device to charge from certain USB ports (like a laptop or USB hub) or with the manufacturer's original charger.
dazbert said:
I have an iGo charger I've used for about 4 years and I have a tip that fits and it charges just fine - I would suspect that the Kensington and Targus ones would work the same way. They are supposed to figure out the power load and deliver it in the right way . . . .
BTW it connects to laptop connector, not the cellphone one.
The Targus/Kensington/iGo tips are interchangeable between vendors (personal experience) so you should be fine. If it fits,it'll work
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What igo power supply use use for your htc shift and the tip for it?
Thank you
Friend: The standard mini usb cable (most popular) can be used in extUSB on D2 (Topaz) : Charging is OK and Sync is OK.
Note: I discover It after buy a 2nd cable
Well, I have so many 'standard' USB to mini USB cables I have never even taken the HTC item out of it's box.
However, the pin out on the mini port of the TD2 does allow for other things other than just sync and charge and then a specificaly wired cable would be required.
Common Mini usb works for other stuff too.
Where i live i have no high speed internet so i use my HTC pure as my internet source. Recently (after 3 weeks of use) my data cable began to come apart...
fearing i would have to buy something i couldnt afford and being mad that i have like 50 mini usb cords that i thought were useless, i found this thread and decided to test other features of the standard cable. So far I have found nothing that the cord cannot do.
my 2 cents.
geraldf80 said:
Where i live i have no high speed internet so i use my HTC pure as my internet source.
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Question: are you then using the HTC as a modem? If so, have you ever tried using it as a modem via Bluetooth? I have never managed this and nobody in the General forum has any advice. I can only use it via usb.
No I havent sorry. My laptop don't have bluetooth so the option never presented itself. perhaps searching for bluetooth internet sharing or making a post would be more helpful.. sorry.
On the TD2 you first need to pair your phone to your PC with Bluetooth
And then there's a program called 'Internet Sharing' on my TD2 menu, you just need to pair your phone and change what the internet sharing is going to (BT in this case) and away you go.
I've heard some carriers disable this and make you pay a surcharge for tethering, which I've heard you can get round with a registry hack
(i can't post links but I did google Touch Diamond 2 Bluetooth Internet Sharing)
Another quick and easy way to do it wirelessly is to use a program like WalkingHotSpot, which converts your TD2 into a WiFi hotspot which is my preferred method if i had to go down this path
Good luck!
The additional contacts in the original connector are for the headphones. Not used in USB & Charging.
e.g. the original car charger comes with a default USB/minUSB cable, not th especial connector as added to the TD2.
GeScha said:
e.g. the original car charger comes with a default USB/minUSB cable, not th especial connector as added to the TD2.
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That is true. I have been searching for a TD2 car charger with its specially profiled connector but could not find one. I am afraid that the standard mini USB connector will damaged the TD2 connector after prolonged use just like what had happened to my 838Pro. You need a little help with the wires and connector when charging or ActiveSync to get them connected.
Whoa this thread is a life saver. I'm in the middle of nowhere and lost my cable so couldn't charge my phone was looking for somewhere to order online it would have cost me at least 2 weeks.
Now i'm using my camera's standard usb cable.
Thank You.
I have all the normal!
Wow, I was kind of shocked, when I tried it - it worked!!! I have bought already 2 special htc oem cables - 1st one was already broken, and have never tried the original mini usb cable since now. It works perfectly too But I suppose if the mini usb cable is used, you have to be more careful for the connector, because there is some free space inside.
i'm using oem hp camera's cable. working fine on my diamond2
Thanks friends.
Has anyone come across a cigarette lighter mount for the GSM TP2 that will also charge the device? It has to be for the GSM version as the CDMA ones have their usb port mounted slightly to the left of center where the GSM versions are mounted.
I found two different ones so far. One is a universal one made by Arkon and seems to be less sturdy than it should be. It has a pass-through 12v port to plug in a charger to it. It only concerns me that the way it is made, it seems to not be sturdy enough based on the reviews.
The other one is made by iGrip and is pretty nice. It is made for the TP2, but it has no power option at all. If this would have a charging port on it, it would be perfect.
Anyone else seen any other options?
here in the netherlands you can buy them and they support paypal if im correct
http://www.mytrendyphone.nl/shop/htc-touch-pro2-54906c1.html
shatred said:
here in the netherlands you can buy them and they support paypal if im correct
http://www.mytrendyphone.nl/shop/htc-touch-pro2-54906c1.html
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Sorry, but I didn't see any mount for the Rhodium on the linked page. Thanks anyway.
cajunflavoredbob said:
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Anyone else seen any other options?
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I use this: http://www.bracketron.com/products/universal-usb-power-dock
I got it from Radio Shack with a 1 year warranty just in case. I did have it break on me but that's because I wasn't using it right. I was within the 30 day return period so i returned it an got a new one. If you do get it make sure you press the red button when adjusting the angle. I would still recommend ti since it has everything I was looking for. I doubt you'll be able to have the keyboard open, but why would you need it open while driving?
howhi50 said:
I use this: http://www.bracketron.com/products/universal-usb-power-dock
I got it from Radio Shack with a 1 year warranty just in case. I did have it break on me but that's because I wasn't using it right. I was within the 30 day return period so i returned it an got a new one. If you do get it make sure you press the red button when adjusting the angle. I would still recommend ti since it has everything I was looking for. I doubt you'll be able to have the keyboard open, but why would you need it open while driving?
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I'm still searching for something similar. I like that one, I'm just worried about having the charging cable hanging out of it. The plug only needs to be a standard USB plug. I would imagine there would be another phone or device that would require something of this sort. Also, I don't need the keyboard open while using this.
cajunflavoredbob said:
I'm still searching for something similar. I like that one, I'm just worried about having the charging cable hanging out of it. The plug only needs to be a standard USB plug. I would imagine there would be another phone or device that would require something of this sort. Also, I don't need the keyboard open while using this.
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Yea that's what I initially wanted when I set out my search but ended up settling for this. My apologizes on accusing you of wanting to use the keyboard while driving. After re-reading your op I didn't see that mentioned like I thought I did before. For charging my phone I use one of these pretty good quality and it comes with a micro usb adapter which i liked since a lot of newer phones are using this. Best wishes on your search!!
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Yea that's what I initially wanted when I set out my search but ended up settling for this. My apologizes on accusing you of wanting to use the keyboard while driving. After re-reading your op I didn't see that mentioned like I thought I did before. For charging my phone I use one of these pretty good quality and it comes with a micro usb adapter which i liked since a lot of newer phones are using this. Best wishes on your search!!
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Hmmmm..... That combined with the universal mount you posted might actually work nicely. I was concerned about my current HTC car charger as it has a rather long cord. This would likely eliminate that mess. I'll give it a shot. Thanks.
Anyone know where I could find a short miniUSB to USB cable. Something like 2" or so would be fine. This might be able to complete the homebrew mount I'm working on.
Short USB Cable
Amazon.com has a 1ft cable (can't post links yet) and 3 ft cables, although I haven't seen any 2ft cables. If you need 2ft you could pick up a gender changer (also available on amazon) and link two 1ft cables together.
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Amazon.com has a 1ft cable (can't post links yet) and 3 ft cables, although I haven't seen any 2ft cables. If you need 2ft you could pick up a gender changer (also available on amazon) and link two 1ft cables together.
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That's a 2" (inch) cable I am looking for. Thanks anyway, though. I'm hoping I won't have to make one. Making USB cables is not fun.
I have a Gtab that was being used by the head of the IT department of the place that i work. He has lost BOTH the charger and the usb connector. I was going to just go to radio shack and pick up a charger for it but they need to know what the power requirements are for it and i cant seem to find them anywhere. anyone know what the charger out put is stock on one of these? also is there an easy source for the small port that semi looks like micro usb to standard usb cable?
Thanks in advance
Chad
The stock charger puts out 12 V and 2 amps.
Here's a few
chuddly said:
I have a Gtab that was being used by the head of the IT department of the place that i work. He has lost BOTH the charger and the usb connector. I was going to just go to radio shack and pick up a charger for it but they need to know what the power requirements are for it and i cant seem to find them anywhere. anyone know what the charger out put is stock on one of these? also is there an easy source for the small port that semi looks like micro usb to standard usb cable?
Thanks in advance
Chad
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There are several other vendors that use the same power adapter with different markings on it. Kodak uses them in their digital photo frames and there are several vendors on eBay if you don't mind it coming from China and waiting a month to get it.
This vendor on Amazon has a few in stock (just the adapter). I bet you can get it overnighted.
Link to Amazon seller
If you do want to search for it on the Internet or in eBay use "MPA-630" in the search criteria.
Also, that's a mini-usb port on the side of the gTab, not a micro-usb port.
It also uses the same charger as the Kodak Photo Frame...
Search the web for "MPA-630 power supply" and you will find a replacement.
Rev
P. S. -- Oh, also, the PC to G-Tab cable is just a standard USB to mini-USB cable like is often used on
cameras, mp3 players, etc. USB on the PC side and mini on the G-Tab side.
I just bought a Universal external charger for my Gtab, but I need to know what the polarity should be, can anyone help me with that?
- c- +
That's what's on mine if that helps
pbrauer said:
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That's what's on mine if that helps
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it does, thank you.
sjmoreno said:
There are several other vendors that use the same power adapter with different markings on it. Kodak uses them in their digital photo frames and there are several vendors on eBay if you don't mind it coming from China and waiting a month to get it.
This vendor on Amazon has a few in stock (just the adapter). I bet you can get it overnighted.
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If you do want to search for it on the Internet or in eBay use "MPA-630" in the search criteria.
Also, that's a mini-usb port on the side of the gTab, not a micro-usb port.
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FYI, the PSAD24 (link above) is NOT a compatible substitute for the MPA-630. Please do not make the same mistake I did by purchasing the item linked above for your gTab, as it has a different connector.
Ecrap website has the charger for $23.95
Forum member itsteve's website electroniccrap dot com is selling the oem power supply and as of yesterday had some in stock. Get on it quick because they sell out quick