I spoke with a high level manager at Sandisk US today regarding a project I am involved with that utilizes micro sdhc cards. The project requires as much memory as possible and I asked them when the 8GB would be available for testing and for purchase.
I was told that testing units to qualified partners would be available in Q4 of this year with full production around the beginning of 2008.
Any other information you get from a possible seller is suspect and should be viewed as inaccurate.
Unfortunately this will keep the cost of the 4GB high until 2008.
Someones pulling your leg!
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Someones pulling your leg!
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I kind of doubt it since I was speaking with the OEM Marketing Manager and the Sales group for Sandisk USA in California. Maybe things are different in Europe but this is the company line in the states.
Also, keep in mind that I wasn't calling as a consumer, but rather as a potential OEM partner so I have no reason to doubt their word and they have no reason to screw with me.
I have been using an 8GB MICRO SD for about 2 weeks. A lady friend in Germany sent it to me to borrow. It works perfectly with the rom on my Hermes: HTC_TyTN_WWE_3.54.255.3_6275_1.48.00.10_108
I am not able to tell others what I dont know but what I do know is the company who produce the version I am messing about with produce internal components and similar to Nokia. The card simply has a code on it with the number 8 at the end. It also works in my Card reader through windows XP. It recognizes it on the laptop too.
Point is that it is 8GB.
I will be glad when I can get a hold of a released version as it may not be the fastest at copying to and from via the PC but it is great to be able to store more films and music.
I meant by pulling you leg, that there are several others from what I can gather who are about to release the 8GB and above over the coming weeks and it may pay you to look further than Sandisk is you are in a hurry.
I fully understood the angle you were trying to explain and realized you meant you were chatting to them as a non consumer.(a potential OEM partner)
UPDATED: The "8" is NOT an "8" it is a "symbol" that looks like half a "B" with a line protruding through it. It means nothing to me as I have no idea what it stands for. The code looks like "Be33-f" what ever that means. Maybe someone can add some light on it. I have a feeling it is simply a code and thats it.
nicholasendean said:
I have been using an 8GB MICRO SD for about 2 weeks. A lady friend in Germany sent it to me to borrow. It works perfectly with the rom on my Hermes: HTC_TyTN_WWE_3.54.255.3_6275_1.48.00.10_108
I am not able to tell others what I dont know but what I do know is the company who produce the version I am messing about with produce internal components and similar to Nokia. The card simply has a code on it with the number 8 at the end. It also works in my Card reader through windows XP. It recognizes it on the laptop too.
Point is that it is 8GB.
I will be glad when I can get a hold of a released version as it may not be the fastest at copying to and from via the PC but it is great to be able to store more films and music.
I meant by pulling you leg, that there are several others from what I can gather who are about to release the 8GB and above over the coming weeks and it may pay you to look further than Sandisk is you are in a hurry.
I fully understood the angle you were trying to explain and realized you meant you were chatting to them as a non consumer.(a potential OEM partner)
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Hmmmm, very interesting.
So it sounds like you have a pre-production piece from whomever. The poeople at Sandisk seemed to indicate that there were some in the hands of the phone OEM's already but they didn't offer any hope of me getting one. The quantity my program needs is in the hundreds, the phone people are talking in the 10's of thousands. I'm just a small **** to them...
Not a bad idea for me to look else where. Maybe Kingston, A-Data or PNY...
Enjoy your 8GB, the rest of us are green with envy...
alylea said:
Hmmmm, very interesting.
So it sounds like you have a pre-production piece from whomever. The poeople at Sandisk seemed to indicate that there were some in the hands of the phone OEM's already but they didn't offer any hope of me getting one. The quantity my program needs is in the hundreds, the phone people are talking in the 10's of thousands. I'm just a small **** to them...
Not a bad idea for me to look else where. Maybe Kingston, A-Data or PNY...
Enjoy your 8GB, the rest of us are green with envy...
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i know i am...and drooling...but am stuck right now whether to get an 8gb pro duo stick for my son's psp....
nicholasendean said:
The code looks like "Be33-f" what ever that means.
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Did you say Beef?!
I just hope the new 8Gb cards wont have a negative impact on the transfer rates.
While you're waiting for your 8GB chips, I've noticed a few online retailers taking pre-orders for 6GB microSDHCs -- at least one says they'll be available as of Aug. 23.
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While you're waiting for your 8GB chips, I've noticed a few online retailers taking pre-orders for 6GB microSDHCs -- at least one says they'll be available as of Aug. 23.
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Hi 3waygeek,
Thanks for the info. Any idea who those retailers are?
I have a call scheduled with the N.E. rep for Sandisk later today. Maybe he can do something for me.
BLT and PCSuperStore both say they'll have them on the 23rd.
8gb Problems...!!!!
Update on 8GB Micro SD Card.
I have been using an 8GB Micro SD card for a while now and was more than happy with the results. Up until 17th (Fri) everything was fine. But I am adding this post to let others know that the card and phone no longer work together. The point is, I cannot access the card from my Hermes any longer. Its DOES however show up perfectly ok from the Card reader on the PC. Resco Explorer and the MS built in Explorer does NOT pick the card up. I have no idea what is going on. I have reformatted the card and also reinstalled after formating the Hermes the rom I have been using. Nothing has worked. My 4GB card works perfectly ok so it is definitely something to do with the Hermes not being able to work with the 8GB Card.
I'm in a rush so forgive the quick post to the thread. Just adding my notes to anyone who is thinking of going along the same route, as I have concerns now about the 8GB working reliably with the Hermes I have. It may well be the Rom I am using? I am not able to put another rom on my phone at the mo due to other commitments.
Hmmmm...
I too wonder what happened? What ROM are you using? Did you add/delete any apps prior to the problem? Crashes/lockups within 24 hours? Do you reboot every day or ?
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BLT and PCSuperStore both say they'll have them on the 23rd.
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BLT has pushed the date to 9/4.
My connection in the Sandisk OEM group is still talking about Q1 2008 for the 8GB. OEM says that it may become available to the retail channels before OEM gets them.
There is a sample order booked for me @ Sandisk but the ship date is open.
high level manager? - LOL
You spoke to a Rep that claims to be the manager - i know, im in the industry
refering back to my 8GB card problems: I hardly ever needed to reset my Hermes and at most I would say twice a week at the most did it need a kick start or reset.
This is what surprised me about the 8GB card suddenly refusing to work. I have since changed ROms and now have changed from the
1. previous::HERM_DOPODASIA_WWE_3.54.707.3_6275_CustomRUU
2. new:: TNT_2.0_official_6mb
I have tried to use the 8GB with the new rom but alas it still not acknowledged. I have no idea what to make of this as the card DID work and for a good three weeks until it suddenly stopped being picked up by the PDA. However as before it IS working ok as my Dell latitude laptop picks the MicroSD card up every time I insert it into the reader.
Its one of the craziest situations I have come across to date/
Incidentally, on a more positive note: the new TNT rom is the fastest I have ever used. I opted for the official version to save on space and it is great. Still doesn't pick up the card but I give up.
Am sticking with my previous 4GB MicroSD.
I digress........
chingy213 said:
high level manager? - LOL
You spoke to a Rep that claims to be the manager - i know, im in the industry
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Hi Chingy,
Actually, I have been working with the Product Manager, Natl. OEM Sales Manager, and the Eastern Regional OEM Sales Manager for Sandisk in California in addition to the OEM rep company President and salesman for my area.
My emails and phone conversations have been with all of the above so yes, I feel my information is accurate at least from the OEM division standpoint. I was told that the Retail group is a separate entity from the OEM group so in fact they may hit retail sooner but they didn't know anything one way or the other.
Interesting that you are n the industry, drop me a PM and let me know what you do. I'm in IT Security big time, maybe there's synergy here.
Related
Newegg has Trancend 8GB Class 6 Micro SDHC on sale for $14.99 w/ free shipping. I can't vouch for the card because I just ordered mine, but theres a 81% 5 Egg rating for this card and I follow what the egg says. Haha Heres the link
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820208453
Thanks for the info. Just ordered it to and will be switching to HERO once it comes in.
nice..just ordered one.
I got the same one from them, works fine on my phone but i dont have apps to sd or any of that rooted stuff..
My first one fouled out, but was able to reformat it and it worked again. I have a A-data that is working strong, but for this price you cant complain. I got my spare
I use this card, paid $18.99 for it a couple weeks back. Been great so far.
They are all sold out now. Sorry guys that missed it.
Yeah Ive been using this since December with apps2sd and asuch with no problems. It's a great buy. Amazon has them too
Just got my card yesterday. Patitioned with Paragon, installed 3.9.1. It is working beatifully. I DO see a slight dif in speed from a C4 card. Great buy.
I love dealnews.com
I think you can get an RSS feed or an alert if you just want to hear about sd card deals.
can't go wrong with Trancend.
just ordered a couple more today.
serial thriller said:
Thanks for the info. Just ordered it to and will be switching to HERO once it comes in.
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So, my card got lost in the mail. Filed a claim with NewEgg.
on a side note, does anyone know if the Hero Rom will work on the stock 1gb card? I don't want to wait until the 8GB one gets here. If it ever does
serial thriller said:
So, my card got lost in the mail. Filed a claim with NewEgg.
on a side note, does anyone know if the Hero Rom will work on the stock 1gb card? I don't want to wait until the 8GB one gets here. If it ever does
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yes a hero rom will still work on the stock 1gb card, I have personally flashed many roms on that card alone
bigchi2000 said:
yes a hero rom will still work on the stock 1gb card, I have personally flashed many roms on that card alone
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but isnt it really slow since the class is low?
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but isnt it really slow since the class is low?
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it really isnt that bad im waiting on that card now...
So the card finally came on Wednesday. Been flashing Hero, etc all through the last couple days.
got mine @ ebay 20 something $ trancend apps2sd,swapp the hole 9 and its been a week holding on strong
brios86 said:
got mine @ ebay 20 something $ trancend apps2sd,swapp the hole 9 and its been a week holding on strong
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I got mine in july for 23 and some change from amazon. Now that including express shiping. Its not bad. I still have some lag but not as much as before with the stock card.
A computer store I have been going to for a couple years now, Directron, has the same Transcend 8Gb Class6 for $17.99. I just got 2 as the store is around the corner.
Great cards for the price!
http://www.directron.com/ts8gusdhc6.html
Thx
I just ordered one from new egg a few seconds ago thanks.
Good News, there is a way to upgrade the HTC 7 Mozart and I have done it successfully .
I have attached an image of the zune screen showing the updated memory to 14.73GB
Cheers Andy
Now includes:
Video here
and
Photos here
Hi Andy,
just put the Link to your article in here and add a space between the firtst 2 characters of your link.
Should be something like that::
h ttp://mylink.com
Then we all know how to handle that ;-)
Greetz Ralf
I also did the same thing to my phone the other night and found that the original micro SD card was a class 4, so what I want to know is... What class of micro SD card did you use? I changed over my SD card the other night with a class 2 16GB and found that it showed up in the boot-loader as 'unknown' type SD card and that after the hard reset, when the phone was setting up and installing apps, it was taking 4 x longer then what it was when I had the original 8GB micro SD class 4 card in it.
Let me know if this has been the same for you or anyone else that has tried this. I have ordered a class 4 16GB SD card to try soon.
Cheers
Could you just copy/paste the procedure ?!...please
Ok Here is the link
Thanks Ralf
http://wp.me/p1azFB-J -try that
As you will see I just used an old class 2 16GB card that I had lying around, I think it is a Duracell brand !!. There were no problems with booting at all, just went straight to a message saying that the menu tiles were corrupt and asking for a reset. No noticable speed difference, but I will be getting a class 4 32Gb as soon as I can find one for a decent price.
Cheers
Andy
Good job...Thanks...!!
would 32GB Class 6 work fine ? and also will this effect Updates from MS, is there any serials on SD card that have to match up or something like that ? (hope not)
Hello andyrham,
First, i would like to thank you for your aticle...It's AMAZING!
But i have a question: with what did you unscrew the screws? What are the tools needed?
Thanks a lot!
its too risky...probably i wont operate it like this...but a brilliant operation!!!
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Hello andyrham,
First, i would like to thank you for your aticle...It's AMAZING!
But i have a question: with what did you unscrew the screws? What are the tools needed?
Thanks a lot!
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Hi Pipolas
For 3 of the black screws you will need to use a torx screwdriver, they are sometimes sold as "security" screwdrivers . The size you need is T6 x50. There is also 2 phillips screws which I just used a very small star pointed screwdriver for.
Hope that helps and thanks for your comments
Cheers
Andy
andyrham said:
Hi Pipolas
For 3 of the black screws you will need to use a torx screwdriver, they are sometimes sold as "security" screwdrivers . The size you need is T6 x50. There is also 2 phillips screws which I just used a very small star pointed screwdriver for.
Hope that helps and thanks for your comments
Cheers
Andy
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Thank you!
Tomorow i'll buy a t6 torx screwdriver, and i'll follow your aticle!
Thanks again!
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would 32GB Class 6 work fine ? and also will this effect Updates from MS, is there any serials on SD card that have to match up or something like that ? (hope not)
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I dont know yet about a class 6 32Gb replacement, but I am going to order one and try myself, as I beleive it will be fine. I will let you know once I get it delivered.
BYW, in terms of speed comparison, I have non-scientifically compared my 16GB class2 with my wife's standard 8GB Class 4 and the results look almost identical, in fact in some tests loading into IE etc the Class 2 phone was quicker. I need to run some games though to test properly, as they run mainly from the SD card and any real speed variance will be most apparent then.
There are no serial numbers needed, what WP7 is doing is formating the card in a special way, hence the need for the hard reset. This is shown by the fact that the 8GB card removed from the phone is not Fat32 formatted when connected to a PC and therefore does not show up. Equally when you plug your WP7 phone into the usb slot, it does not show up as a Removable Disk so you cannot simply transfer files to it like with WM6 and before. It remains to be seen if it can be reformatted to use elswhere.
Hope that helps
Cheers
Andy
andyrham said:
I dont know yet about a class 6 32Gb replacement, but I am going to order one and try myself, as I beleive it will be fine. I will let you know once I get it delivered.
BYW, in terms of speed comparison, I have non-scientifically compared my 16GB class2 with my wife's standard 8GB Class 4 and the results look almost identical, in fact in some tests loading into IE etc the Class 2 phone was quicker. I need to run some games though to test properly, as they run mainly from the SD card and any real speed variance will be most apparent then.
There are no serial numbers needed, what WP7 is doing is formating the card in a special way, hence the need for the hard reset. This is shown by the fact that the 8GB card removed from the phone is not Fat32 formatted when connected to a PC and therefore does not show up. Equally when you plug your WP7 phone into the usb slot, it does not show up as a Removable Disk so you cannot simply transfer files to it like with WM6 and before. It remains to be seen if it can be reformatted to use elswhere.
Hope that helps
Cheers
Andy
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big thanks to u dude,i'll try tomorrow(i have to buy torx)
tell us if with micro SD 32Go it works
hmmm...
Though this sounds really tempting I am sure I would not have the dare to do it myself...
I hope there might be people who can do it and give for a service charge...
Would wait with my 8 Gb till than...
shamreez said:
hmmm...
Though this sounds really tempting I am sure I would not have the dare to do it myself...
I hope there might be people who can do it and give for a service charge...
Would wait with my 8 Gb till than...
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I agree - sounds very tempting!!
Need to have a serious think about this. Thanks for the cracking guide tho.
You're a brave man, Andy. Thanks for taking the plunge and figuring this out for us. I might wait until the device is more than a few weeks old before attempting myself
thanks for sharing.
eh Andy i have a little problem :
how did you manage to put the power cord into the plug that is on the metal part? because I was handling, but the only thing that stuck is the mini usb port on this phone that is attached to the hull, I can not recharge the battery.
I suppose it is inserted incorrectly because at one point I tried to connect to PC USB port for a few seconds and he got "recognized" detected "then it went away.
thank you in advance for your help
Thanks Andy for sharing!
However i was wondering if this manipulation cancel the warrantly...?
Tsointsoin said:
Thanks Andy for sharing!
However i was wondering if this manipulation cancel the warrantly...?
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yes going to do this will void the warranty
Sorry if this has been asked, I saw a video on youtube that said it did. So does have built in GPS?
p.s. search is temporarily down.
No, the one available from sears doesn't have the chip. This device has many names and a couple different configurations from different companies. One is available w/ 3g radio, gps, and 1 gig of ram. It's available for order from some import sites. Ours unfortunatly is only 512 and no 3g or gps. with that said, their is support for an external bluetooth gps device.
Thanks for the heads up. Damn, kind of a let down(for me). It still is one of the best spec'd tablets out right now for the price. How do you like it????
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No, the one available from sears doesn't have the chip. This device has many names and a couple different configurations from different companies. One is available w/ 3g radio, gps, and 1 gig of ram. It's available for order from some import sites. Ours unfortunatly is only 512 and no 3g or gps. with that said, their is support for an external bluetooth gps device.
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What variant has those specs?
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Thanks for the heads up. Damn, kind of a let down(for me). It still is one of the best spec'd tablets out right now for the price. How do you like it????
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I can only answer for myself. I am using the stock software. I have not modified it in any way. I have been able to find enough apps to do what I want with the device as it is supplied from Sears. Would I like more, sure. I would like to have flash working. While I really don't care about youtube, it would be handy to be able to pull some things up for my music lessons. The guys on this forum have done more in 10 days than any other group that I have ever seen. They have mod'd this device all over the place. One guy has reported that he even has a wince version almost ready to release as a beta. Honestly, the hardware on this thing is fantastic. I admit the software is not up to the same caliber as the hardware. I am just too busy to play with mod'ing mine right now. I am going out of town for two weeks and I don't want to screw it up just before I go and then I will be pissed off the whole time I am gone. I believe the experts on this forum have said the device is un-brickable. And from all of the discussions, I believe this to be true and not just hot air. My advice - If you can get a refurbished one buy it fast at 279. If not then buy it on sale this coming Thursday for 379. If all else fails then shell out the 400 for a brand new one. If it can't do it now I am sure these guys will make it do it before Christmas. IMO
http://www.aliexpress.com/product-f...D-screen-16GB-SSD-1GHz-Tegra-wholesalers.html
Here's the tablet in question from an Malata, the supplier that sold it to viewsonic. It's a bit pricy though.
marican said:
http://www.aliexpress.com/product-f...D-screen-16GB-SSD-1GHz-Tegra-wholesalers.html
Here's the tablet in question from an Malata, the supplier that sold it to viewsonic. It's a bit pricy though.
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Wth? By that link it looks like flash is working. Hey, it even comes with a custom case with the cutouts for the buttons and stuff. They probably have a kickass market too! ;P
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http://www.aliexpress.com/product-f...D-screen-16GB-SSD-1GHz-Tegra-wholesalers.html
Here's the tablet in question from an Malata, the supplier that sold it to viewsonic. It's a bit pricy though.
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would definatly get that if it were a bit cheaper, like the 450 range with 3g and GPS
guitar geek said:
I can only answer for myself. I am using the stock software. I have not modified it in any way. I have been able to find enough apps to do what I want with the device as it is supplied from Sears. Would I like more, sure. I would like to have flash working. While I really don't care about youtube, it would be handy to be able to pull some things up for my music lessons. The guys on this forum have done more in 10 days than any other group that I have ever seen. They have mod'd this device all over the place. One guy has reported that he even has a wince version almost ready to release as a beta. Honestly, the hardware on this thing is fantastic. I admit the software is not up to the same caliber as the hardware. I am just too busy to play with mod'ing mine right now. I am going out of town for two weeks and I don't want to screw it up just before I go and then I will be pissed off the whole time I am gone. I believe the experts on this forum have said the device is un-brickable. And from all of the discussions, I believe this to be true and not just hot air. My advice - If you can get a refurbished one buy it fast at 279. If not then buy it on sale this coming Thursday for 379. If all else fails then shell out the 400 for a brand new one. If it can't do it now I am sure these guys will make it do it before Christmas. IMO
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Like you, I am using the stock software, and have not modified it, other than to add the folio flash apk. Flash now works great. It is a great device and I am eagerly awaiting the update from VS
another option is to use a BT GPS puck and an app like Bluetooth GPS to simulate an internal gps.
In the Malata link that Marican posted, it talks about adding GPS like it is something they can "plug-in" upon request. If that were true, it sounds like for $40, we might be able to get the same thing and stick it in the unit. Anyone have any ideas about how they are adding GPS?
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Talk2Rider said:
In the Malata link that Marican posted, it talks about adding GPS like it is something they can "plug-in" upon request. If that were true, it sounds like for $40, we might be able to get the same thing and stick it in the unit. Anyone have any ideas about how they are adding GPS?
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There's a space on the board for a GPS on a chip, as well as a mini PCI-e socket and space for a SIM socket. Might be doable with a bit of soldering, which I might be attempting soon.
Let me know how it goes is like to put a gps card in there
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another option is to use a BT GPS puck and an app like Bluetooth GPS to simulate an internal gps.
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I got mine to work using bluetooth gps on the g-tablet and share gps on my droid 1. Worked beautifully. Now i need to root my droid so I can tether internet. Anyone know of good in car mounts for this thing?
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No, the one available from sears doesn't have the chip. This device has many names and a couple different configurations from different companies. One is available w/ 3g radio, gps, and 1 gig of ram. It's available for order from some import sites. Ours unfortunatly is only 512 and no 3g or gps. with that said, their is support for an external bluetooth gps device.
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Just to confirm, in Italy Olivetti is proposing Olipad100, which is a version of G-Tablet with 1 GB RAM (but no GPS, unfortunately), as reported here:
http://forum.android-dev.it/olipad100-viewsonic-g-tablet-rimarchiato-512mb-t2980.html
It is my understanding that you do not need to root your android phone when you use 'Easy Tether' program available on Market.
GPS Chip soldering
KorbenD said:
There's a space on the board for a GPS on a chip, as well as a mini PCI-e socket and space for a SIM socket. Might be doable with a bit of soldering, which I might be attempting soon.
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How did the soldering go? I wanted to try the same, but wanted to know, how did it go for you before actually trying it myself.
makbruno said:
How did the soldering go? I wanted to try the same, but wanted to know, how did it go for you before actually trying it myself.
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There is tons more info in this post on the internal gps. Hope this helps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1062333
Are we sure there is no micro SD card slot on the tab 10? Has anyone taken apart the unit? There is a micro SD slot on the 3G version, maybe samsung has left the actual slot on the system board but just covered up the opening on the plastic shell? This happens all the time in manufacturing devices, often Mfrs want to remove a feature and dont want to re-tool or reprogram a Mfr process so they do things like leaving the option in and just covering it up.....Ive seen this happen all the time.
The fact that the tab 10 was SUPPOSED to come with a micro SD card slot and at the last minute having it left out leads me to GREATLY believe that the actual slot is on the system board just covered up by the plastic shell.
The slot is supposed to be just to the right of the volume buttons.
I cant take my unit apart until I get the stupid 3-prong security bits to unscrew the screws near the usb connector.
Mh interesting, my rotary tool is ready
5thElement said:
There is a micro SD slot on the 3G version,
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I didn't think there was??
There's a greater chance of finding a tiny leprechaun who changes the orientation of the Tab when it turns, than of finding an documented secret SD slot.
Berner said:
There's a greater chance of finding a tiny leprechaun who changes the orientation of the Tab when it turns, than of finding an documented secret SD slot.
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You obviously have no idea that all samsung pre-production models of the tab 10 (im not talking about the 10v model) had a micro sd card slot. There are plenty of pictures online. The sd card slot is there. Or at least there will be traces on the board. IMO the actual slot is soldered on the board as it was last min choice to have the option removed.
It'd be interesting to know if there is one or not......
I haven't taken mine apart yet, and have no interest in doing it. Never the less, I would also be interested in knowing what we have going on back there. I searched for a teardown by iSuppli or similar, but did not find anything. Too bad.
I'm aware that some pre-production models had the hardware. You're making a giant leap to suggest that the hardware exists in production models when all evidence points to the contrary.
But by all means, feel free to prove me wrong. I anxiously await your pics.
It's more than possible. Look at WP7 phones.
Berner said:
I'm aware that some pre-production models had the hardware. You're making a giant leap to suggest that the hardware exists in production models when all evidence points to the contrary.
But by all means, feel free to prove me wrong. I anxiously await your pics.
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What evidence points to the contrary??? Samsung officially will tell you there is no micro SD card slot but that does not count since its their default answer if it is or isnt inside. The fact that there is no actual cut out in the plastic shell also does not count as that is its default position regardless if the slot hardware is there or not.
Again where is this evidence to the contrary?
Does anyone have access to an Xray machine that can scan their unit so we can see?
5thElement said:
Does anyone have access to an Xray machine that can scan their unit so we can see?
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I'm friends with Superman.
5thElement said:
... maybe samsung has left the actual slot on the system board but just covered up the opening on the plastic shell? This happens all the time in manufacturing devices, often Mfrs want to remove a feature and dont want to re-tool or reprogram a Mfr process so they do things like leaving the option in and just covering it up.....Ive seen this happen all the time.
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It seems just as likely, if not more, that the pre production unit had a slot in the case, but no functioning SD hardware behind it. Even if the hardware is there, getting it to work w/o Samsung's support could be difficult. Look how hard it's been for the zoom, while Motorola intended for it to work
5thElement said:
Does anyone have access to an Xray machine that can scan their unit so we can see?
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I'll have it xrayed on monday. I'll give you the pictures so you can analyze them.
But doubt you'll se anything useful.
(Got xray machines at work)
maybe I'm missing something here, but what is the advantage to samsung when they actually have a microSD slot onboard 10.1 after the redesign and not to use it? I find their story believable that they had to cut it out due to size(thickness) issues. If they could squeeze in the micro SD they would not hesitate to advertise it as another advantage over the ipad2.
hyann said:
maybe I'm missing something here, but what is the advantage to samsung when they actually have a microSD slot onboard 10.1 after the redesign and not to use it? I find their story believable that they had to cut it out due to size(thickness) issues. If they could squeeze in the micro SD they would not hesitate to advertise it as another advantage over the ipad2.
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Advantage would be the ability to market the next product as "New and improved with expandable memory."
My professional opinion in concern to prototyping and designing, its much easier to modify and replace a plastic/aluminum enclosure than modifying a stockpile of motherboards
kragebein said:
I'll have it xrayed on monday. I'll give you the pictures so you can analyze them.
But doubt you'll se anything useful.
(Got xray machines at work)
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Fantastic. Cant wait.
seems we have a winning entry to answer all questions on this topic and put it to rest, no x-ray needed
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15276646&postcount=13
I have taken the liberty of messaging the user for his input on this threads subject and have requested he shed some light on this mind boggling question
I think this line right here is what's confusing people.
"micro-SD card slot for up to 32GB memory through a USB adapter (have to buy separately)"
It's possible to extend it through the USB adapter, but IMO it's much easier to use a service like dropbox or sugarsync. Save a few playlists locally with iSyncr then have the rest of your library on google music. I use sugarsync. I use it all the time. It's a great way to get files onto your device, wireless.
Where's the pictures of the pre production tab having the SD slot? And BTW it's up to the person making a claim against the norm to prove it... not the other way around, that's ridiculous.
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What evidence points to the contrary??? Samsung officially will tell you there is no micro SD card slot but that does not count since its their default answer if it is or isnt inside. The fact that there is no actual cut out in the plastic shell also does not count as that is its default position regardless if the slot hardware is there or not.
Again where is this evidence to the contrary?
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Hi guys,
first thanks for your help with my previous problem.
Unfortunately another problem came up.
My SD card deleted one folder with videos. It was
pretty strange because I was watching one of them
and then I just went to homescreen and when I turned
the screen on again this folder with videos which was
on my sd card just disappeared. And even when I
connected the tablet with pc it wasnt there.
And also some spotify songs which were on it just
deleted themselves. I dont know if it is problem with
the sd card or with my device or it just can happen.
The format of those videos was mp4 and I was using
the MX player.
Do you know what it might be?
Could it be a virus?
Probably not a virus. I'd suspect a bad quality SD card causing file table corruption since it sounds too random to be a controlled deletion. Was the deleted files perhaps the newest ones?
Try connecting the card to a PC and run a filesystem check.
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Probably not a virus. I'd suspect a bad quality SD card causing file table corruption since it sounds too random to be a controlled deletion. Was the deleted files perhaps the newest ones?
Try connecting the card to a PC and run a filesystem check.
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I havent tried it yet but I will, thanks for the tip. And yes it suits your description
and also the files were deleted when I was not connected to the internet.
So it is probably a bad SD card even when it is a class 10 card...
Charll13 said:
I havent tried it yet but I will, thanks for the tip. And yes it suits your description
and also the files were deleted when I was not connected to the internet.
So it is probably a bad SD card even when it is a class 10 card...
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Bad cards can come from anywhere, in most cases the bad ones are discarded in QA testing but in sometimes they pass the initial tests. You could also have some physical flaw on your card which would still make it pass the electrical tests. Compare it to another card and see if it's thinner (particularly SanDisk had huge issues with fake cards showing this specific issue) and use the manufacturers authenticity testing utility if they have one. The problem with fake cards is mainly how to reach the ones affected by them since they usually have no idea the card is fake until it's too late.
Just out of curiosity, what brand is it?
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Bad cards can come from anywhere, in most cases the bad ones are discarded in QA testing but in sometimes they pass the initial tests. You could also have some physical flaw on your card which would still make it pass the electrical tests. Compare it to another card and see if it's thinner (particularly SanDisk had huge issues with fake cards showing this specific issue) and use the manufacturers authenticity testing utility if they have one. The problem with fake cards is mainly how to reach the ones affected by them since they usually have no idea the card is fake until it's too late.
Just out of curiosity, what brand is it?
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Its an SD card from a shop in Australia but I really cant remember its name. All I know is the shop
is pretty good and the price for the card was similar compared to for example SanDisc.
So technically it should be a good card.
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Its an SD card from a shop in Australia but I really cant remember its name. All I know is the shop
is pretty good and the price for the card was similar compared to for example SanDisc.
So technically it should be a good card.
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No it really won't technically be a good quality card unless its one of the big OEMs and even then there are bad quality cards from them.
If its a no name card then it doesn't matter what they said the specs are, it is most likely a cheaply made card that is going to run into significant issues. The upside of Sandisc or PNY is they have a replacement guarantee as long as its a manufacturers defect, most no name or off brand cards don't have any kind of warranty
And not trying to burst your bubble but just because you paid a certain price doesn't mean that it will make the card better, I have learned my lesson the hard way with such things.
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