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I have asked around before about getting the WM6 VoIP on this bad boy, and no one seems interested. The standard Cab files will not work, and it has been speculated this is because of some missing certificate files.
I know there are few out there with other devices that have the 6800 as well, and we can compare the certificate files between the two devices to see if we can get this working.
Certificate bypass...
Have you tried "unlocking" the certificate requirements through the registry?
The settings are available on the HTC WIKI here: http://www.htcwiki.com/page/P4000+Telus?t=anon and will allow programs/cabs to be installed regardless of certificate authentication. Bear in mind, this is NOT a method of unlocking the phone for another network, simply a means to dismiss certificate requirements for program installation.
I'm not interested in the VOIP per se, but if the certificate is the problem, this might be a viable solution... I hope it helps.
Yes I have unlocked the phone. As said its only sepeculated its a certificate issue. After installing the WM6 Voip cab file, all files that are recommended you check for, are there, but the phone does not give you the option to select internet calling.
I have tried it too cannot get the today plugin to show....
internet calling just doesn't show up
webdude12 said:
Yes I have unlocked the phone. As said its only sepeculated its a certificate issue. After installing the WM6 Voip cab file, all files that are recommended you check for, are there, but the phone does not give you the option to select internet calling.
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all files installed, internet calling checked in today's settings, but doesn't appear on today's screen.
does anyone knows what's wrong with ppc6800?
Does anyone have another WM6 device that they have the VoIP Client working on. I think the key maybe a missing Registery setting, but dont have another device to compare too.
Look in this key:
\registry\HKLM\SOFTWARE\OEM\PhoneSetting\
I am guessing for something along the lines of: HiddenInternetPhone or HiddenVoip with a value of 0.
No "Internet Calling" on HTC P4000 (Telus)
I have the same problem. I installed WM6VoIP.CAB and SetupVoIP_v0.3.CAB, and setup access to the voip provider sip server (voipbuster.com). I was logged into voipbuster on my laptop, and as soon as I clicked ok from the "Setup VOIP" page, I received a message on my laptop indicating that I've been logged out of voipbuster because I have logged in from another computer. So, this means that Internet Calling is indeed working (or at least connected to the voip sip server), but just doesn't show up on the Today screen. I can see the "Internet Calling" option in Settings > Today > Items page, but "Internet Calling" does not appear in the Today page. It may be hidden or missing due to a registry key as the previous poster suggests. I have no idea what that key would be, but if anybody could look and see if you can find anything that would ShowInternetCalling, HideInternetCalling, or something similar in the registry, that would be much appreciated. Thanks.
VOIP works with no Internet Calling on Today Screen
I have an HTC P4000 (Titan, PPC6800) on the Telus network. And by installing WM6VoIP.CAB and SetupVoIP_v0.3.CAB, I was able to go into the SetupVoIP app and on the last tap, set it to "Whenver Available." This causes VOIP to become active if there is a WiFi connection. Nothing shows up on the Today Screen, but in the Phone screen, TELUS changes to VOIP (or whatever you name the SIP connection). After that, all calls are being routed through the voip provider.
The volume of the rear speaker (and earpiece when connected) is rather low, but definitely audible. That's the last piece of the puzzle I have to figure out.
Now Working, just a few bugs
Ok I’ve got the WM6 sip client working on my phone (telus-p4000) the same way with all the same problems as sabrex does. I’ve tried many voip clients on this phone with the same speaker problem, I’ve read some where that the HTC api doesn’t reference how to access the earpiece speaker on the p4000. Believe me these other voip clients work on almost every phone with proper speaker output, it’s just the p4000 that routes the sound to the rear speaker. So what it looks like is the sip extension to the phone software is trying to use the default wm6 routing path there by pushing all the audio to the rear speaker instead of the earpiece. Now a work around like sabrex said is to use the corded external earpiece. I haven’t been able to get any Bluetooth headsets to work on any of the other voip clients but maybe someone will have better luck with the wm6 client. I don’t know much about sound routing in wm6 but any help with a direction to look in would be appreciated, but I think HTC will be the only ones capable of helping with this.
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I have an HTC P4000 (Titan, PPC6800) on the Telus network. And by installing WM6VoIP.CAB and SetupVoIP_v0.3.CAB, I was able to go into the SetupVoIP app and on the last tap, set it to "Whenver Available." This causes VOIP to become active if there is a WiFi connection. Nothing shows up on the Today Screen, but in the Phone screen, TELUS changes to VOIP (or whatever you name the SIP connection). After that, all calls are being routed through the voip provider.
The volume of the rear speaker (and earpiece when connected) is rather low, but definitely audible. That's the last piece of the puzzle I have to figure out.
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Has anyone been able to get the Today screen plugin to work with the P4000?
Hi All
Can anyone tell me where i can get hold of SetupVoIP_v0.3.CAB ?? Many Thanks!!
Where to get SetupVoIP
Found it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1486120
This with WM6VoIP.CAB got it working on my Bell HTC-6800 (HTC Mogul / Titan). It's a user-contrib setup program that handles files and registry settings. Doesn't show on today screen, but it does redirect my phone to SIP when WiFi is available.
I've heard mention of a newer WM6VoIP.CAB, but I can't find it. The setup I have working puts audio through the back speaker, and from what I've read will be prone to very quiet audio.
Can you tell me how to di it from scratch? New Phone
i just got my Bell HTC-6800
Do I need to unlock it some how for this to work?
I have tried installing WM6VoIP.CAB and using SetupVoIP_v0.3.CAB to no avail.
Please post details of "no avail". How far did you get, any error messages?
Did you configure SIP using SetupVoIP?
- use Start / Programs / Setup VoIP?
- docs / support here
- did you set options to "whenever available", or "only if cell is not available"?
Which SIP provider are you using?
Are you using 802.11? Browser works?
When you view the phone screen, does the top left show VoIP (vs Bell Mobility)?
The Today screen doesn't work on my 6800, and I don't know how to solve it. I can place and receive calls, but the received audio is very quiet and comes through the handsfree (back) speaker. Headset is also very quiet (both wired and bluetooth). But when I'm at our remote mining areas I can place and receive calls.
Are you experienced with VoIP in general, and SIP in particular?
The whole story is in this very long thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1590688#post1590688
got it working on bell 6800
gadzuk said:
Found it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1486120
This with WM6VoIP.CAB got it working on my Bell HTC-6800 (HTC Mogul / Titan). It's a user-contrib setup program that handles files and registry settings. Doesn't show on today screen, but it does redirect my phone to SIP when WiFi is available.
I've heard mention of a newer WM6VoIP.CAB, but I can't find it. The setup I have working puts audio through the back speaker, and from what I've read will be prone to very quiet audio.
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thanks for all the info here guys, i was able to get it working today on a bell 6800. im disappointed in the sound and features though. i have a nokia E70 and i use it's built in sip client which works will all the features of my asterisk PBX. i hope that this software will continue to improve.
Hi folks,
anyone managed to fix the audio problem on Titan ( P4000)
I get audio from the back speaher only
Thanks
back speaker audio
this is what i heard about the problem
Apparently HTC does not use standard Windows Mobile Audio paths on their devices as opposed to some of the other device manufactures.
This is word for word from HTC:
“It works on most other Windows Mobile devices because they more than likely use Microsoft standard audio path controls, HTC uses their own software architecture which is why it doesn't perform the same.”
Well, that sucks ...
They supply 80% of PDA phones to the market
and there is no work around it ?
My question, why is the sound quiet? Any other application that would put sound out would be normal volume. Why is the VoIP quiet then??
AGEphone Mobile 2 Speakerphone Edition does support the internal speaker on some select models (more to follow!) as of now!
Does anyone know a config tool for sip on the HTC S740?
I can only find tools for touchphones.
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Does anyone know a config tool for sip on the HTC S740?
I can only find tools for touchphones.
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Hello, you can use the FRING. It has SIP, too. It is true there are many others protocols in FRING, but you needn't use it. Just easy, use only SIP protocol...
Thanks, but I found a way here in the forum to use the WM 6.1 integrated Voip function.
Do you mind sharing how did you do it ?
SIP Client on S740
Has anyone managed to figure this out yet? I tried tool for WM6.1 from XDA forum but get error.
VOIP over wifi at home, with own provider sip settings
Hello all,
Since 1,5 week i have the HTC s740 (rose), so i am experimenting with it these days.
At home i have wifi-access. My internetconnection can also be used to call with (with a normal phone). Therefore there are some settings in my modem.
Now i want tot know if there is a way to install an app on my HTC, put the sip settings from my internetaccount in there and call with my mobile phone instead of my normal phone.
the tool i found at xda presents an error, in a moment i am going to try Fring, but any tips a welcome.
(sorry for my bad english..)
Thanks in advance!
greetings Daniël
Has anyone manage to get SIP VoIP working? I install the voip .cab and get the internet calling options ok.
But no matter what I can not load the SIP server configuration. Anyone has a .cab config that works on the HTC Rose?
Hello All.
I was hoping someone could advise me on how to make a normal carrier based video call. I've looked everywhere and am a little shocked to see that my atrix does not support video calls.
when calling my atrix from another phone on the same network that supports video calling (Telecom New Zealand XT network which is UMTS(WCDMA)) i get 'cannt call, other phone does not support video calling'. hmph!
can anyone help?
many thanks
Gavin.
glegge said:
Hello All.
I was hoping someone could advise me on how to make a normal carrier based video call. I've looked everywhere and am a little shocked to see that my atrix does not support video calls.
when calling my atrix from another phone on the same network that supports video calling (Telecom New Zealand XT network which is UMTS(WCDMA)) i get 'cannt call, other phone does not support video calling'. hmph!
can anyone help?
many thanks
Gavin.
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Wow, for real? There is Qik, Skype, Gtalk, Tang, Yahoo Messenger, Fring... Just because there is not a carrier specific one (Hardly any carrier actually supports carrier specific video calls)...who cares?
You looked everywhere? LOL with what, Bing?
BravoMotorola said:
Wow, for real? There is Qik, Skype, Gtalk, Tang, Yahoo Messenger, Fring... Just because there is not a carrier specific one (Hardly any carrier actually supports carrier specific video calls)...who cares?
You looked everywhere? LOL with what, Bing?
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Carrier based video calling is actually pretty common outside the US, even though it is almost completely unheard of here. I'm a little surprised the international versions of this phone don't support video calls, but not surprised at all to see that feature lacking on the US version.
Have there been any Android phones that do this? I know the international version of my old Fuze (Touch Pro) had an FFC and did it even though the AT&T version didn't.
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Unfortunately android phones don't support standard video calling.
And yes, most of the world has a standard video call that works same on all carriers, even between carriers works. The usa is the only place that does not have video calling.
Does anyone know why this is though?
And does anyone know how video calling (direct, not third-party like google, skype, fring, etc.) works exactly, I get that a line is connected between the two phones, but what about information sharing? Are there any special permissions needed to use this direct data connection?
What about the video/sound compressors?
Why doesn't America feature this?
I hope i didn't go off topic, but I am rather interested in this......
Will google, and if any cares/helps me find me answer, i will post everything i'va gathered
Mizulunaris said:
Does anyone know why this is though?
And does anyone know how video calling (direct, not third-party like google, skype, fring, etc.) works exactly, I get that a line is connected between the two phones, but what about information sharing? Are there any special permissions needed to use this direct data connection?
What about the video/sound compressors?
Why doesn't America feature this?
I hope i didn't go off topic, but I am rather interested in this......
Will google, and if any cares/helps me find me answer, i will post everything i'va gathered
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it uses your data connection to stream video to each other. plain and simple. uses the same data network as your phone's internet.
Actually my friend has a galaxy s ii which does have carrier video calling.I wonder how I can enable it on my atrix with gingerbread loaded, fresh from motorola update...
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dLo GSR said:
it uses your data connection to stream video to each other. plain and simple. uses the same data network as your phone's internet.
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The service does have to be enabled per subscriber in the hlr also
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The service does have to be enabled per subscriber in the hlr also
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i don't know what "HLR" is, but Qik, Tango and Google Talk Video (the apps that work on the Atrix) are not carrier dependent. i've gotten all three to work fine on a Galaxy Tab Wifi (no cellular carrier).
dLo GSR said:
i don't know what "HLR" is, but Qik, Tango and Google Talk Video (the apps that work on the Atrix) are not carrier dependent. i've gotten all three to work fine on a Galaxy Tab Wifi (no cellular carrier).
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Ah yes they will work because they just use any old internet connection.the service I am looking for runs over the carrier. Hlr is home location register. Or your subscriber profile.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1180432
That is a link to folks that found video call on there galaxy. This is what I am looking for on the atrix.I guess there must be a module which can be installed...fingers crossed someone knows..
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yeah even in canada rogers had this service but it didn't take off as the cameras sucked and there wasn't much use for it when you add in the screen size of the phones that had it. I had it on my HTC TyTn and Touch Pro. I think one carrier was looking to roll it out in the US. AT&T was against it so all those winmo devices that came out on their network had the front camera taken out. I could be wrong, but the Iphone 4 was the first device where they allowed it.
RogerPodacter said:
Unfortunately android phones don't support standard video calling.
And yes, most of the world has a standard video call that works same on all carriers, even between carriers works. The usa is the only place that does not have video calling.
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I confirm that some Android phones have a carrier video calling feature.
I own an Atrix 4G (2.3.4), and my wife owns a Samsung Galaxy S II (2.3.3)
And yes, there is a video call option in her phone's dialer.
We live in Moscow and have different carriers. 2 days ago i bricked my Atrix 4G trying to unlock its bootloader, so i had to stick back to my rubbish Samsung Z510. As soon as i put my sim-card into it and powered on the phone i could see a "3g" icon in status bar. And yes there was a video call option in my z510's dialer. It worked like a charm. Carriers video calls in Moscow cost the same as regular voice calls, so i'm quite interested in finding a way to mod my atrix as soon as i get a new one instead of bricked one. From today the source code of Atrix 4G is opened and i just hope that xda developers will pay attention to adding carrier video call in their future custom roms.
You can also try Oovoo. It works for both computer to phone and phone to phone calls.
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oovoo doesn't work on the ATRIX.
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Just a bump incase anyone has something more to contribute
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Dowload "Qik for Atrix". The app was designed for the Atrix but works on other phones. Its best to tell the other user to download Qik on their phone as well.
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android dialers doesnt support yet, just with apps we can do that...
I use Tango. worked better than fring for me.
but I live in California.
so then... I guess my input is useless...
sorry. :\
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please note this thread is just for network provider provided video calling.native to the network. So apps like skype etc are not related to this thread. Android does do video call on the galaxy so it must be a mater of time before someone makes this work on atrix.
Many thanks.
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Hi to all
I'm looking for a cheap-ish, reasonable spec., probably secondhand Android phone for my daughter which must be capable of video (pref. 2 way) Skype-type calls via wifi.
It won't be having any kind of SIM (PAYG or contract) in it initially, but must function as Skype-type video phone via wifi - unless someone tells me that's not possible! I can put my own O2 SIM in it if necessary to set up whatever needs doing to make it function.
So...some questions please:-
Is it possible to set up a phone in this way? (ie. to be able to make & receive Skype-type video calls without having a SIM card in it)
If it is - how exactly do I do it?
Should I use Skype as a carrier or are there other providers who would do the job better/easier?
Which Android phones will best do the job?
Many many thanks in advance to anyone who can help. Any advice gratefully received.
Cheers
largeruk said:
Hi to all
I'm looking for a cheap-ish, reasonable spec., probably secondhand Android phone for my daughter which must be capable of video (pref. 2 way) Skype-type calls via wifi.
It won't be having any kind of SIM (PAYG or contract) in it initially, but must function as Skype-type video phone via wifi - unless someone tells me that's not possible! I can put my own O2 SIM in it if necessary to set up whatever needs doing to make it function.
So...some questions please:-
Is it possible to set up a phone in this way? (ie. to be able to make & receive Skype-type video calls without having a SIM card in it)
If it is - how exactly do I do it?
Should I use Skype as a carrier or are there other providers who would do the job better/easier?
Which Android phones will best do the job?
Many many thanks in advance to anyone who can help. Any advice gratefully received.
Cheers
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well my recommendation is HTC Desire with it you can have high quality resolution video calling and it on a reasonable price too
Any further thoughts from anyone..?
I realise I'll need a device with a front-facing camera in order to have 2 way voice and video, but I would very much appreciate some advice as to whether what I want to do is possible and, if so, how!
Many thanks
Hello,
I would like to know if there is a way, setting, app, hack or workaround for calling via VoIP to a non-VoIP user from an Android smartphone using 3G/EDGE without charging you minutes, just using MB.
Thanks
The simplest way to do this is to use the Google Hangouts Dialer app.
This will only work in 3G, not EDGE unless you have a really really good connection.
I also don't know if this will work outside the USA - which country are you in?
Ok I will give it a try, I am a bit afraid of google recording everything that drops by it's servers though.
I live in Spain.