Hi Friends
i want to upgrade my advantage to WM6
i don't know i upgrade with athena black project or WM6 Rom in HTC site.
i read in a site that black porject is fast, but programs are not good
but i read about HTC Rom that speed is very bad, and it is slow
please help me about your rom that used, and good and bad about this.
thanX
No choice - has to be Black touch ROM
how is it?
do it have any problem or issue?
V2 is due out soon - v 1 was almost perfect - faster, less buggy and all round better than the HTC version.
V2 will be even better.
Confucious said:
V2 is due out soon - v 1 was almost perfect - faster, less buggy and all round better than the HTC version.
V2 will be even better.
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when it will be available? i want see i wait to it availabe or no?
tanX
sorry
also another question about you ROM
i want to connect a usb mouse to my device
i read one of your rom's progrom have problem with usb mouse
it is true?
tanX
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V2 is due out soon - v 1 was almost perfect - faster, less buggy and all round better than the HTC version.
V2 will be even better.
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Sorry to be asking this, can you be more specific on the improved speed? I understand that in V1.0 page pool size was the same as standard ROM, so how is it possible to have improvement in speed? If it is the regular registry tweaks I'm doubtful that it will have any noticeable difference compared to standard ROM.
I have tried out the applications such as HTC X button and agree that the application were poorly chosen. In fact, it will be my preference to NOT remove any standard application such as Opera, and not add any new application at all. I personally think that it an 'improved' set of application is a 'deproved' to another. I hate the green theme for comm mgr and audio manager, but others want to keep it. I like pBar over HTC X button, but others think otherwise. I want to remove voice commander but others hate microsoft voice command. Therefore we should not add or remove any application as this could only introduce bugs and instability.
Speaking of bugs, I don't find the standard ROM buggy at all. On the contrary, there were quite a few reports of bug in version 1.00, which hopefully will be addressed in version 2.
The only common denominator for all, is improved speed. If we want to add anything else, it will be the black theme, real vga, and dpi resource packs, and plenty more icons.
The most important thing that I look for in the ROM is speed. All others I could easily customise by myself, including registry performance tweaks, which unfortunately could yield only marginal, if noticeable speed improvement. I could be wrong, but I got the impressi that dramatic speed improveme is best achieved by changing the page pool size.
Another thing that I observed is that it is not uncommon for us to declare a new ROM 'blazing fast' minutes after we've loaded it. In fact, when you try it out, you don't feel the same way.
Without that noticeable speed improvement, I won't rush into voiding my warranty.
Just saying what I honestly think.
It is all subjective - I love the apps in V1 and am sure V2.0 ( due out any tilme now!) will be even better) these guys know what they are doing and have listened to the comunity which, of course, means it's a consensus and so may not suit you. I am not a hacker and so am comparing the speed to the standard ROM with NO speed tweeks.
I don't know what they've done, but for someone like myself, who just wants to install a new ROM and have the best (by consensus) apps and speed PK Black Touch is the way to go. If you are willing to do your own tweaking you can cook yor own but I'm a lazy sod (I'll blame laziness rather than stupidity) so I love the Black Touch ROM.
If you want something different and know what you are doing there is nothing stopping you.
As for warranty, IMHO here in the UK, the first thing they do is a factory reset and flash with the latest official ROM - they don't even check to see what was on it and 'probablly' wouldn't know how to see if it was CID unlocked - I've never had a problem - but then I don't have a warranty on my Ameo so that's easy for me to say.
Good luck.
its already out(2.0)
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Hi all,
I've been looking around the threads for a while now and while I'm excitedly waiting for my U1000 which I just bought on ebay I'm wondering if people have an opinion on which ROM to use. Are there pro's and cons on each or is it just mostly visual?
So far I've been reading about Black Dual by PK 3.0, AP ROM v4.0, v3.0 and the older Black one.
I thought it would be simply a case of going for the latest but that doesn't seem to be the case. The 4.0 and Black Dual seem to be the same age but don't seem to be the same. Is one better then the other? Does one suit a different use case better than another?
Thanks for any guidance.
Before deciding which ROM, I felt it will be safer to use your newly bought U1000 for awhile to ensure set stability and it’s characteristic. Then when you flash other ROM, you will have better understanding of your set.
PK is the head chef for the Athena Project (AP) it is not PK Dual 3 it is AP Dual 3 and it came out a long time before AP4 which is based on the 7510 ROM and is, by far, the latest and greatest.
AP4 is the one to go for IMHO.
The answer is always the same in ICT: the best is the second release of the latest so AP 4.1 (some bug fix, more ram and more system resources, may latest opera, and ..., SPL with a way to go back to the standard one, just in case). I am still using AP2 on mine but AP3 also works fine
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... so AP 4.1 (some bug fix, more ram and more system resources, may latest opera, and ..., SPL with a way to go back to the standard one, just in case). I am still using AP2 on mine but AP3 also works fine
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How come you're still on AP2 if you don't mind me asking?
I thought I may just defualt to the latest and greatest and go with AP 4.1 but the black dual screen shots look nice and I like some of the Dual Touch features that seem to have been added to that one (I'm guessing they're not in the AP4?).
If it's the 7510 ROM does that mean the front camera on my U1000 won't work as the 7501/10 don't have a vga camera?
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How come you're still on AP2 if you don't mind me asking?
I thought I may just defualt to the latest and greatest and go with AP 4.1 but the black dual screen shots look nice and I like some of the Dual Touch features that seem to have been added to that one (I'm guessing they're not in the AP4?).
If it's the 7510 ROM does that mean the front camera on my U1000 won't work as the 7501/10 don't have a vga camera?
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I haven't checked the video call application but in the camera application the Front Camera could'nt be used. In AP2, in the camera application, I have the front camera too
Video call doesn’t exist in AP3 and 4 unless the dial skin has the video button.
About the Front Camera (secondary VGA videocall camera), if that is what you are referring to,
can be activate from camera application top centre 3 buttons, on the left.
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Video call doesn’t exist in AP3 and 4 unless the dial skin has the video button.
About the Front Camera (secondary VGA videocall camera), if that is what you are referring to,
can be activate from camera application top centre 3 buttons, on the left.
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OOOPS! I haven't fully checked the camera app, I checked it now also in standard resolution. Yes, it has the video call feature, just uncheck "disable phone skin" button in REALVGA (and use the 192 DPI resolution)
If you leave the phone skin enabled in 96 or 128 DPI you can't check the number you are dialing, because the SKIN isnt' designed for 128 or 96 DPI.
But you STILL have video call feature
Video calls working great!
After reading, today I untick the “disable phone skin” on Real VGA before switch to other dpi.
Surprised to find in both dpi 192 and 128, I have the video button and can make video calls.
Video was clear and sharp provided the other party stay put.
Very happy to find it working wonderfully, many thanks to the AP teams.
Thanks sergiopi, otherwise I may still thinking it it not availabe.
Oh, why there is the need to tick the "disable phone skin" in the first place?
Find it strange way to disable a feature which is available all the time.
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Hi all,
I've been looking around the threads for a while now and while I'm excitedly waiting for my U1000 which I just bought on ebay I'm wondering if people have an opinion on which ROM to use. Are there pro's and cons on each or is it just mostly visual?
So far I've been reading about Black Dual by PK 3.0, AP ROM v4.0, v3.0 and the older Black one.
I thought it would be simply a case of going for the latest but that doesn't seem to be the case. The 4.0 and Black Dual seem to be the same age but don't seem to be the same. Is one better then the other? Does one suit a different use case better than another?
Thanks for any guidance.
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Looks like you've got one more choice to try, courtesy of Irus. Especially if your unit is still under warranty.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390328
pdajoy said:
Oh, why there is the need to tick the "disable phone skin" in the first place?
Find it strange way to disable a feature which is available all the time.
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I found the reason today, bad experience with the video button available.
Contact name list and keyed phone number most of the time not shown.
Revert back to normal, without video button...sign.
I think it's sort of worse now
I have seen so many choices, vanilla 3, black dual, AP2,3,4 ahhhhh.
I might just try the stock one with the spb or whatever that add on is called and see how i go for a while.
p.s. what's an SPL?
http://www.unwiredview.com/2010/07/...details-post-some-corrections-clarifications/
interesting post, an update to
http://www.unwiredview.com/2010/06/...esolution-1ghz-minimum-specs-mid-oct-release/
which turned out to misquote things a bit.
So now the info says that 1gHz 512mb phones aren't the minimum requirement, they're the recommended phone for gingerbread.
it could be interesting therefore to try and build it for the hero when it comes out, although I can imagine things like the camera becoming a completely non-functional bit under that OS possibly.
however I'm not a rom developer, I don't know if they'll allow for it to run on the arm6 basic instruction set even.
Nor do I know anything specifically about coding at that low a level on the hero, other than common sense, so please understand I'm just asking if it seems like this might become less of an impossibility now with the new information.
By the way, this is actually old info I see now, so if this has been discussed already I'm sorry. I searched but found nothing about the update.
the thing is, noone really knows what gingerbread entails right?
UI refresh should be fine (plz change the Vanilla notifications bar! )
but your link does mention a "maximum multimedia experience"... my Hero cant even handle a 700mb avi in Rock Player too well.
Im not hoping for too much, after all the mobile market has been moving really fast.
I didn't read any of your links but afaik Gingerbread requires a processor of 1Ghz and the Hero is 528Mhz or something along those lines. So unless the requirements of that change I doubt we might see it, also we won't have kernel sources from HTC so we will need a kernel dev to help out with the new kernel to get things to work on gingerbread. This looks doubtful since devs are having a hard time (I assume since I am not a dev) with getting a .32 kernel
I doubt it , sorry to be negative but also their Is aparently a min screen size aawell which will be 3.5" and hero is 3.2" I'm hoping to get a new phone with gingerbread installed already the specs should be awesome because manafactures I'm sure wnt just settle for recomended settings and recomended settings is the top spec at the moment
I will bet my desire that gingerbread will be on the hero, within a few months of release with guys like nprussell and Pulser and ninpo. Screen size isn't a biggie.....
But being screen size it will be themers that need to downsize the pictures and nprussel and co. ( not co just other devs lol ) that need to change the code etc so can they all work together
Hi.
Even though I don't post here often I have been browsing the forums thoroughly for half a year now.
This issue has been bothering me since I purchased my X10.
I possess both an ipod 4g and my X10.
Honestly, I bear with most of the flaws of my lovely handheld but some things just annoy me.
It's RIDICULOUSLY slow for it's hardware specs, the interface is just nowhere as snappy as iOS, the colors are bleak and the camera is SLOW. just INSANELY slow.
Taking a stable shot is nearly impossible.
Now I'm running the latest EWJET rom, fully tweaked for better performance and now it's almost bearable but the screen looks like crap, I can clearly see the 56k colors and all the videos look disgustingly bad.
The camera apps, including vignette, camera360 and the default one all slow as hell and I'm quite frankly on the verge of selling the device for a loss.
As odd as it may sound after that long rant, the point of this post is not to complain but to ask for your guidance.
I'm quite emotionally attached to my x10 and the last thing that I want is to sell it.
Is there a solution to some of my bothers? At the very least a solution to the utterly bleak screen?
Thank you for your patience.
Sorry for my relentless ranting.
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Is there a solution to some of my bothers? At the very least a solution to the utterly bleak screen?
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Yep, upgrade to a custom 2.2 ROM
Perfect example of a speedy ROM that will fix all of your problems: http://android.modaco.com/content/s...miui-iris-1-6-5-froyo-prepare-for-the-future/ (since you have an iPod, you may like this)
No it doesnt matter what rom u use until SE change it you will only ever get 65k. apparently the official gingerbread will have 16 million colours
so it may be a case of manning up until then
its not really fair comparing miui on x10 to an ipod. ipod creams all over us!
i gotta agree with the op the x10s screen response compared to an ipod is terrible trips rom is good though and is worth a look.
the ios is so much faster honestly
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No it doesnt matter what rom u use until SE change it you will only ever get 65k. apparently the official gingerbread will have 16 million colours
so it may be a case of manning up until then
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do you think this colour upgrade, if it does happen will even help with the screens response?
i love my x10 dont get me wrong but i really get jelous the second i unlock an ipod/phones lockscreen. Its a million times smoother and it follows your finger perfectly. the x10 has great specs on paper but i just dunno why its never felt fast
alexsupreme said:
Hi.
Even though I don't post here often I have been browsing the forums thoroughly for half a year now.
This issue has been bothering me since I purchased my X10.
I possess both an ipod 4g and my X10.
Honestly, I bear with most of the flaws of my lovely handheld but some things just annoy me.
It's RIDICULOUSLY slow for it's hardware specs, the interface is just nowhere as snappy as iOS, the colors are bleak and the camera is SLOW. just INSANELY slow.
Taking a stable shot is nearly impossible.
Now I'm running the latest EWJET rom, fully tweaked for better performance and now it's almost bearable but the screen looks like crap, I can clearly see the 56k colors and all the videos look disgustingly bad.
The camera apps, including vignette, camera360 and the default one all slow as hell and I'm quite frankly on the verge of selling the device for a loss.
As odd as it may sound after that long rant, the point of this post is not to complain but to ask for your guidance.
I'm quite emotionally attached to my x10 and the last thing that I want is to sell it.
Is there a solution to some of my bothers? At the very least a solution to the utterly bleak screen?
Thank you for your patience.
Sorry for my relentless ranting.
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Switch to wolf's CM rom it has dithering and that makes a big difference.
brent0r said:
do you think this colour upgrade, if it does happen will even help with the screens response?
i love my x10 dont get me wrong but i really get jelous the second i unlock an ipod/phones lockscreen. Its a million times smoother and it follows your finger perfectly. the x10 has great specs on paper but i just dunno why its never felt fast
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depends on the touch drivers. As far as I know sony and SE, it might actually get worse.
I can wait for the gingerbread but are there any snappy/fast cam apps?
I just need something that takes more or less focused pics really fast.
The picture quality I currently get is not as good as my 2g Iphone unless I stand perfectly still or lean on something sturdy... I kinda hate it.
And regarding the Miui rom, one of the reasons I chose to buy an android over the iphone is because of the GUI
I cannot stress the importance of getting a rom + kernel that has an unlocked FPS.
I cannot recommend enough this particular rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1119508
Get the one with the Custom Kernel. Bare in mind you need baseband 52/49 (5 preferred) to flash the custom Kernel.
You'll thank me later. Trust me This is exactly what you're looking for.
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I cannot stress the importance of getting a rom + kernel that has an unlocked FPS.
I cannot recommend enough this particular rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1119508
Get the one with the Custom Kernel. Bare in mind you need baseband 52/49 (5 preferred) to flash the custom Kernel.
You'll thank me later. Trust me This is exactly what you're looking for.
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I've been with wolf's rom up until 6.3, the UI occasionally has low frame rates and overall the EWJET is more stable.
The camera mod isn't as good and lacking wifi tethering.
alexsupreme said:
I've been with wolf's rom up until 6.3, the UI occasionally has low frame rates and overall the EWJET is more stable.
The camera mod isn't as good and lacking wifi tethering.
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Odd.. i have been using wolf roms since the first one and i must say that it's smoother than butter for me.
I'm going to give it a try, the v7 looks nice and clean.
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I'm going to give it a try, the v7 looks nice and clean.
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Make sure to use the custom kernel to get 60fps. It makes all the difference.
If you have any problems e.g battery drain or wifi not working or anything. Just let me know I'll try to help.
Install the custom kernel, it makes your x10 way more smoother and don't use **** like live wallpapers, ect.
something i'd suggest you is tripnravers miui rom he have tweaked the screen for better colors and its not baaaad at all ! and something i noticed the stock se roms have more brightness and colors then all custom roms i flashed till now
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Make sure to use the custom kernel to get 60fps. It makes all the difference.
If you have any problems e.g battery drain or wifi not working or anything. Just let me know I'll try to help.
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I'm on BB 52 and using the custom kernel version, does the ROM allow tethering?
Because I'm an avid user of the Tether app, it would be rather difficult without it.
Overall the rom does look smoother, and I like the additional control that the CM roms give you.
Just pre-ordered an HTC One X + from AT&T today. Comes with JB 4.1 I believe. Coming from iPhone (jailbroken of course.) I see there was also a recent announcement, something about 4.2 being released by Google to VOSD. Read some of the improvements in 4.2 and would love to have them. But frankly, I don't want to spend hours futzing with my phone or risk bricking it. On the other hand, I don't want to wait 6 months for HTC to release a 4.2 update.
Without any prior experience can someone throw me a bone. Will there be a 4.2 ROM here I can download that will be stable and how long do you estimate before it is available versus waiting for HTC?
I've heard good things about Sense, but if I consider myself to now be a lifelong Android user, isn't it better to get used to using a vanilla version of the OS instead of using some manufacturer-specific overlay like Sense? So should I install a custom ROM no matter what from that perspective or will I loose to many conveniences/features specific to the phone?
Finally, will I be able to go back to stock HTC ROM (whatever is the most recent version) for warranty/resale purposes if I don't wait for the HTC upgrades?
I believe the JB 4.2 was only released yesterday with the sale opening for the Nexus 4/10. I am not really bothered as there are only "cosmetic" updates anyway like this orb pic shooting cam setting and dop down notification.
I got my HOX+ yesterday, after being very happy with the HOX since it was releases in April. And I have to say, so far unlocking/rooting the HOX + is not really necessary or a thing that needs to be done as soon as the batterry has charged to full the very first time you have it in your hands.
HOX+ with HTCs Sense is running very well, smooth as hell. And while I don't like the Sense launcher as it is restricting too much my daily use, I find alternative launcher much better..they provide amazing eye candy. In particular the Apex launcher is worth to have a look at.
But the integration of Sense is the background is just great, Contacts/phone/social media integration is basically perfect, as is the Google calender and in particular Google Now.
There also is a noticable improvement with the sound quality, and sound is mind blowing with the alternative player PowerAmp.
Development will take off for the HOX+ soon, and devs are already on it. Once CWM is up and running I will also unlock/root, if only for for the adblock
I am not a fan of AOSP as it is too stripped down for me. But that is pure personal taste.
Give the development a few weeks, in my opinion the HOX+ is already coming out of the box an amazing piece of technology, and Sense together with JB 4.1.1 is a very good user experience!
So in a way, it seems you could consider Sense a package of apps/features, that you might otherwise install over the vanilla OS anyway? I suppose when I think about it, I spent hours to jailbreak and install Cydia apps on my iPhone to customize how the lock screen works, notification works, the spring board works, the wallpapers work, etc. So even though iOS interface is consistent from version to version, I always modify it to my liking - essentially building my own "Sense" for iPhone.
One thing I don't like is bloatware - apps installed that I don't need but can't install. And I'm sure the AT&T One X+ comes with plenty of it? (At least in Windows PC's you can uninstall the stuff.) So my gut is telling me I will still probably end up rooting and going with a custom ROM anyway. I'm mainly looking for stability and consistency for years to come, despite what device I own. Not that learning a new interface "flavor" has a steep learning curve, but it would be nice to "standardize" on one "flavor" be it Sense or CM10 + some specific launcher app, etc etc. To be honest I don't have hours and hours to experiment anymore so it may be best to take what HTC gives me and be done with it. But I know I will crave 4.2 when available just to see what's improved (I've read about it - not groundbreaking but better), so I guess I'll probably cave and give at least one custom ROM a try. Makes the phone more unique too, which is kind of a novelty. But ya, this stuff we are talking about is foreign to probably 90% of the smartphone users out there. So the devices wouldn't sell as well as they do if they had issues or were hard to use out of the box!
hardstuffmuc said:
I believe the JB 4.2 was only released yesterday with the sale opening for the Nexus 4/10. I am not really bothered as there are only "cosmetic" updates anyway like this orb pic shooting cam setting and dop down notification.
I got my HOX+ yesterday, after being very happy with the HOX since it was releases in April. And I have to say, so far unlocking/rooting the HOX + is not really necessary or a thing that needs to be done as soon as the batterry has charged to full the very first time you have it in your hands.
HOX+ with HTCs Sense is running very well, smooth as hell. And while I don't like the Sense launcher as it is restricting too much my daily use, I find alternative launcher much better..they provide amazing eye candy. In particular the Apex launcher is worth to have a look at.
But the integration of Sense is the background is just great, Contacts/phone/social media integration is basically perfect, as is the Google calender and in particular Google Now.
There also is a noticable improvement with the sound quality, and sound is mind blowing with the alternative player PowerAmp.
Development will take off for the HOX+ soon, and devs are already on it. Once CWM is up and running I will also unlock/root, if only for for the adblock
I am not a fan of AOSP as it is too stripped down for me. But that is pure personal taste.
Give the development a few weeks, in my opinion the HOX+ is already coming out of the box an amazing piece of technology, and Sense together with JB 4.1.1 is a very good user experience!
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Just to chime in. I'm coming from 4 years of iPhone (still have my 4S and from the day I turned on the X+, I was in wow factor! Device runs SMOOTH as heck, responsiveness is more than I expected, just overall Great experience overall. That being said, I still want to be able to customize it even more. My iPhone had all the tweaks, theming, etc that truly made it my experience. So, i'm new to the whole "rooting" for Android devices as I'm a Mac guy also, but have a PC on standby waiting for instructions.
I'm really excited to actually take the dive in Android and especially with this particular device!
sense UI is the best for me among all the launchers.
i don't mind 4.1.1 vs 4..2 i don't think there's much changes anyways.
I have Jellybean 4.2 on my Nexus 7 and my old GNex. It is really buggy and the UI changes suck. There is battery drain, slow charging, instability and BT is broken. I rather have a stable Jellybean 4.1 and get a stable 4.2 in a few months on my Hox+.
Hellion said:
Just to chime in. I'm coming from 4 years of iPhone (still have my 4S and from the day I turned on the X+, I was in wow factor! Device runs SMOOTH as heck, responsiveness is more than I expected, just overall Great experience overall. That being said, I still want to be able to customize it even more. My iPhone had all the tweaks, theming, etc that truly made it my experience. So, i'm new to the whole "rooting" for Android devices as I'm a Mac guy also, but have a PC on standby waiting for instructions.
I'm really excited to actually take the dive in Android and especially with this particular device!
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I had a 4S for a time. Customising it was a pain in the arse. I'll be glad if I never see cydia again . You can customise a lot of android without needing to root. But some things like taskbar icons, transparency effects for system apps, bootlogo's, system transition effects ect. You need to be rooted for.
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I had a 4S for a time. Customising it was a pain in the arse. I'll be glad if I never see cydia again . You can customise a lot of android without needing to root. But some things like taskbar icons, transparency effects for system apps, bootlogo's, system transition effects ect. You need to be rooted for.
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Is there a verified working root for us ATT users yet? Saw a lot of talk about one which is why I'm asking. If so, any moon steps on how to root? I need it mainly for titanium backup to backup data files too and more tweaks.
Also hope someone can fix the broken Steele headset controls for this dang phone. All u can do is pause and play tracks from your wired or Bluetooth headset. Can't change tracks nor adjust volume from your stereo headset, huge fail for me! At the gym 5 days a week for hours and nothing worse then pulling this link out of my pocket the whole workout to manually change tracks and adjust volume for certain songs.
With my old tablet the custom roms always meant a performance increase too, but:
I've tried pretty much well every single custom rom available for this tablet by now and i still havent managed to find one that actually increases the performance of the tablet. When im running the stock firmware i get about 7500-7600 on quadrant and my browser is really responsive and stuff. There's not been a single custon rom out there that has even performed better then 5600 on quadrant. Is it just me, or are the custom roms not hat good performance wise?
EDIT: By better performance i mean how snappy the tablet feels, using benchmarks as a secondary frame of reference.
Not sure if quadrant is doing a good job. I also am getting same results as you with 7xxx for stock and 5xxx for all CM based ones. Although the CM roms feel smoother here.
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I abstained the vote cause the question does not bear a black and white / yes or no answer anymore these days.
In my humble opinion, and I picked up the smartphone / PDA / mobile device modding bug back about when this site catered to the the original HTC XDA almost exclusively, and Steve Jobs was merely having wet dreams about his iPhone (*1)... nodded RIMs have gotten to a state where they are overvalued. Saying a custom ROM is always way ahead of stock is like saying "one device with a fixed featureless fits everyone perfectly".
Custom ROMs had their deserved heyday when the industry loaded up near every carrier distributed smartphone with scrappy bloatware that made you weep. Depending on the mobile OS at any given time it was nigh impossible to get rid of that stuff, unless you flashed the whole shebang. From there on the custom ROM scene kinda exploded along with the market distribution of smartphones and later on tablets, certainly owed to the introduction of Android over older generation closed source systems, which enabled much more in-depth possibilities of adding novel features, fixing stuff that was basically broken out of the box and integrating all of this nicely.
(For a frame of reference: I tossed my PalmPilot and Nokia phone when the HTC Wallaby (Telekom MDA or so)hit the shelves... Early adopter by nature and I thought combining cellphones and PDAs, bother which I used avidly was the most revolutionary idea since the combustion engine. This was generation Windows Pocket PC, basically a PDA with cellphone feature thrown in as an afterthought (the antenna actually doubles a stylus compartment). Phone integration was a PITA on good days. On bad, long work days it might just happen that your moody battery would jump from 35% to flat out dead within a mere six minute phone call. Yet, no biggie right? Well, it was, the devices had no non volatile storage. Dead battery means go home, pray your last phone backup is recent enough and restore the entire thing. I spent a lot of time fixing this device (windows style - shoehorning in binary OS components from newer PocketPC versions and prodding the registry on the phone (!)...) to a point where it was almost usable as PDA only device, supplementing telephonly with a Nokia.
A while later better devices came out, PocketPc was scrapped for Windows Mobile and in high hopes I got a HTC Charmer. This looked like a more solid platform and indeed proper custom ROMa emerged, adding real functionality and allowing to get rid of carrier branded crap, later even RIMs emerged with Windows Mobile version updates never intended for that phone, some even taking the recent cutting edge HTC front-end, the first incarnation of Sense (I think it was called vanilla). I figured the really bad conceptual problems were fixed and merrily went along. But, as god hates my guts, I drained the battery accidentally, only to find that the phone would still go dead, deaf, dumb and wiped despite a good three or four years of technological progress. I was so confident that I neglected backups with that model and basically lost the majority of my stuff again. The Nokia dumbphone was back in the game, the HTC left a dent in the wall that required plaster and a patch of new wallpaper.
TL;DR: The first gen smartphones (PDA with cell module afterthought were such flawed concepts, badly integrated, that keeping recent backups and maintaining it operational took quite an effort on user side, on that sort of negated the higher productivity of using one altogether. But bear with me now, I am still circling around the point or two I want t. Make.
Because a few months after I abandoned smartphones for good (or so I thought) Apple coughed up their iPhone prototype and a few months later pumped it to market. I was amazed (not because of the technological feat, they were more or less throwing R&D money bricks at existing tech and concepts, however they exactly figured out what went wrong in the early generations, fixed that stuff, added fingerdriven multi-touch in favor of stylus driven displays and, this is the real kicker, in a time and age when the cool cell to have was a Nokia 8 Series or a decent, very small flipphone or clamshell they managed to brainwash their customers into what PDA and smartphone adopters at that time already knew - it's totally worth to dump the train of ever smaller telephony only cells for a much larger, more fragile device because of all the freedom and power those things offer you.
I kept my guard and obviously went for Android devices once I got back on the horse. HTC Desire, a backup Wildfire, Desire HD, Sensation, One S and a few tablets along the way. Now, here is the kicker. The Desire ran much better with a custom. The Wildfire could only be updated to a recent Android version with a custom ROM due to HTCs sometimes appalling quick update discontinuation. The Desire HD ran a basically stock custom ROM! But with lots of lovely icon eyecandy, so I stuck with that too. The Sensation benchmarked equally (give or take 5%) but the ROM added novel features, properly implemented, which I decided to stick with. But frankly, it was because I could. I would not have recommended a newbie to Android flashing to take the plunge. My current HTC One S has a recovery downloader and is rooted cause some essential apps I can't live without need it. Full custom ROM switch. I see no point. Android has come a long way. If today I have bloatware I can go to App Manager and disable them. Icon gone, runtime resource hogging gone. Many features that were the selling points for a custom ROM a while back are now natively incorporated.
This is just how I feel about my Sony SGP311 now. It runs 4.2.2 rooted, no recovery yet. This is planned, maybe at some point a stable, close to stock custom kernel to allow some overclocking on a per app basis for XBMC. But other than that it just Danny works. The Sony skin put over stock Androi. Is not that bad, and more to the point it never gave me the impression of hogging the system. Turn off what is useless to you, Office suite, walkway, etc and be on your merry way. It just comes down to what you do with the device, but as a custom ROM junkie who has just gotten off the habit, for me it makes no sense anymore.
Now, if you made it all the way here, I ran two benchmarks on my 4.2.2 root but stock. Maybe they aid you in your decision.
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Also, none of the above is supposed to rain on the developers parade or something. I admire your skills and dedication over all those years, and there isn't a single custom ROM that went onto my devices withour a PayPal "crate of beer" donation ever. However, the fiddling, time spent reading up on custom ROM choice, issues and unlocking process etc is just not in relation for me anymore. Those thoughts are yours to reject, spindle, mutilate, adopt, oppose or plainly ignore... Just speaking for myself here.
Thanks for this! I was also trying to decide if I should be flashing a custom rom on my XTZ. I am itching to flash but couldn't come up with any strong reason to do so, probably for battery life and stock look?
Will be interesting to hear from another person who is a strong believer of flashing custom rom on XTZ.
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i got slightly better score using a custom rom. Plus i get themes, expanded desktop and pie control which is a must for this tablet. I hope more xda developers develop for this tablet. Will reward with donations
By "better performance" do mean higher benchmark scores? Because any of the 4.3 ROMs I've tried are generally smoother than Sony's 4.2.2.
Spartoi said:
By "better performance" do mean higher benchmark scores? Because any of the 4.3 ROMs I've tried are generally smoother than Sony's 4.2.2.
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4.3 too bugy for me
im using 4.2.2 cm rom FXP242-cm-10.1-20131021-UNOFFICIAL-pollux_windy.zip
i already sent team a donation hope to keep em motivated
Spartoi said:
By "better performance" do mean higher benchmark scores? Because any of the 4.3 ROMs I've tried are generally smoother than Sony's 4.2.2.
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I prefer 4.2 ATM. I get close to 30 Mbps download speed on this ROM where on 4.3 roms only 2mbps download? Also video cam recording, screen is squashed on 4.3. Other than that they run great but I personally cant feel a performqnce boost from 4.3 to 4.2. I also installed crossbreader and Supercharger V6 script which addresses screen redraw lags, so if there is a slower issue with 4.2 i would have addressed it with these two mods and may not be able to tell.