Dear Xda Experts!
My name is Guy, I own an Xda Atom and I critically need your help...
About a month ago my life became miserable as the wifi module of the poor device has stopped functioning completely: It doesn't start when I click Menu->Turn on Wifi, doesn't respond to wireless manager clicks, fails the self diagnostics test etc.
After looking all over the relevant internet forums, I've found This post, suggesting I put the atom in the fridge for a few minutes. I've done that - and suprisingly - the wifi began functioning for a few minutes time. After that, it returned to its normal state of misfunctioning.
I understand that the problem is being caused by some sort of a heating problem within the device.
Is there a solution to this problem?
Rom experts (especially Jiggs) : is there a registry edit that might help, maybe to take some pressure of the processor, or to prevent the disappearance of the wifi as the device heats?
I bought the Atom especially because the wifi ability, as it is highly important to me, and as for now I'm seriously disappointed. The O2's support's laconic response was "Try the official ROM" (My warranty period is over).
Needless to say, I have already tried Hard resets, Rom upgrades of all kinds, flashing and reflashing, taking out the battery for a few days and nothing worked.
Please try to assist,
Your help will be much appreciated.
Thank you all,
Guy Sando.
Same with me.
Hi Guy,
I have the same problem with my Atom.
I tried to reinstall ROMs/Hard Reset and nothing helped.
One day in the morning after charging it all over the night, the WIFI suddenly started to work, but only for few hours.
Hope someone would have an idea.
Yaniv.
Do not used wireless manager or the wrlsmgr. try using Wifi Utilty by ALE**** i forget
Bye try to flash with the AKU 3.3.3 or AKU3.3F
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329181
jeffkewin said:
Do not used wireless manager or the wrlsmgr. try using Wifi Utilty by ALE**** i forget
Bye try to flash with the AKU 3.3.3 or AKU3.3F
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329181
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Dear Jeffkewin, thanx for the response.
Do you have a link or maybe a bit more specific name of the software that you recommended? (Btw, Software replacement seems a bit like a long shot, because of the fact that the "fridge-therapy" works for the wifi...)
As for the AKU's - I've tried them both, they're really nice, but none of them has fixed my wifi issue...
Maybe The upcoming WM6 Rom will. I keep my fingers crossed...
Thanks again,
Guy.
Can u goto the Settings, Connections, use the Wi-fi Utility.
Ignore the Turn on and off button. Turn on is turn off, turn on is turn on.. that the only text bugs, but the software is working fine.
Try SPB phone suite wireless icon
it happened to me one time while trying to reflashed ROM. When im going to Wireless Manager, I cant open my wifi. But if im trying to open it in SPB Phone suite , its working...maybe try this software. download it and i will give to you the serial for registration. But first try if it is work then thats the time i will give to you...
jeffkewin said:
Can u goto the Settings, Connections, use the Wi-fi Utility.
Ignore the Turn on and off button. Turn on is turn off, turn on is turn on.. that the only text bugs, but the software is working fine.
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generalriden said:
it happened to me one time while trying to reflashed ROM. When im going to Wireless Manager, I cant open my wifi. But if im trying to open it in SPB Phone suite , its working...maybe try this software. download it and i will give to you the serial for registration. But first try if it is work then thats the time i will give to you...
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Thank you Jeffkewin and Generalriden,
Unfortunately, The solutions you proposed are not working. I have tried Phonesuite, Hitch-hiker and many more - none have worked.
I have also tried ignoring the text in the "Wifi utilities" application (In many different Rom versions) - still no good...
Has someone encountered the same problem and got it solved? Is there something about the Rom version that can fix this?
Thanks again,
Guy.
If you're using the official ROM and it's not working, then this is more hardware related. 'Fridge Theraphy' is not normal for your device. You have no choice but to go to service center, have it estimated for cost. You can buy now a brand new Atom at $250 or less.
Alternate solution would be a $50-$100 SDIO wifi card, but I think none would fit the miniSD slot.
There are miniSDIO wifis. They're pretty much the only miniSDIO devices. However, you're still better off getting a new device.
Sounds like your wifi module's overheating. This is a hardware problem (just like cracking speakers) and there's no way to fix it permanently short of a physical repair.
Good News
I had the same problem.
I tried almost every single possible solution which was discussed on this forum, including the Fridge Therapy. Fridge therapy really worked for a couple of minutes.
Finally, I took it to the service center and they said, the problem is with the board and the cost of repair is $400/-.
I was put off and challenged to see, something which works after the fridge therapy will stop working at room temperature.
Finally, I realized, the last thing beyond the ROM which I changed was the MS Active Sync. I had using Active Sync Ver 4.5. It seems to have some conflict. I reverted back to Active Sync Ver. 4.1 and reflased the original rom.
It worked and Active Sync Ver. 4.1 is working perfectly fine for my device. After the WiFi worked, I reflashed it to Jiggs latest WM6 ROM and its working well.
Might sound wiered, but the fact, I could resolve this issue by reverting back to Active Sync. 4.1.
Hope this helps to all dissappointed users of Atom.
Regards,
Anand
Anand Bhargava said:
I had the same problem.
I tried almost every single possible solution which was discussed on this forum, including the Fridge Therapy. Fridge therapy really worked for a couple of minutes.
Finally, I took it to the service center and they said, the problem is with the board and the cost of repair is $400/-.
I was put off and challenged to see, something which works after the fridge therapy will stop working at room temperature.
Finally, I realized, the last thing beyond the ROM which I changed was the MS Active Sync. I had using Active Sync Ver 4.5. It seems to have some conflict. I reverted back to Active Sync Ver. 4.1 and reflased the original rom.
It worked and Active Sync Ver. 4.1 is working perfectly fine for my device. After the WiFi worked, I reflashed it to Jiggs latest WM6 ROM and its working well.
Might sound wiered, but the fact, I could resolve this issue by reverting back to Active Sync. 4.1.
Hope this helps to all dissappointed users of Atom.
Regards,
Anand
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Dear Anand,
Thank you very much for your help.
I'm anxious to see if that's gonna work for me as well.
I'll try going back to AS 4.1 right now and will let you know.
Keep your fingers crossed for me!
Many thanks again!
Guy.
I'm happy for you mate, but that just sounds like the biggest load of bollocks I've ever heard it just proves how unpredictible and unreliable our Atoms are, my Wifi has also gone on the blink for one or two weeks at a time and then for no apparent reason it fixes itself. Although I suppose running the Atom Exec rom in the Atom doesnt help nor the fact we run overclock apps to 624MHZ
I have now finished downgrading to AS 4.1 and to the official ROM.
Unfortunately, that did not do the trick. Thinking about it, seems like Homer is right:
The AS doesn't start communicating with the device until its connected to the desktop, after the HR and the SR that follow the ROM upgrade. therefore, there's no obvious reason why it should affect the wifi module, which seems to be off even before that connection. In addition - Anand, how did you get the AS 4.1 to work with the WM6 ROM? Isn't AS 4.5 the only version that works with WM6?
As been said, our devices are totally unpredictable, which is really disappointing. I'm happy for you, for getting everything running, and I hope that my device will do that as well soon.
I'll be more than glad if someone here will be able to assist in that matter.
Thank you all,
Guy.
guysando said:
I have now finished downgrading to AS 4.1 and to the official ROM.
Unfortunately, that did not do the trick. Thinking about it, seems like Homer is right:
The AS doesn't start communicating with the device until its connected to the desktop, after the HR and the SR that follow the ROM upgrade. therefore, there's no obvious reason why it should affect the wifi module, which seems to be off even before that connection. In addition - Anand, how did you get the AS 4.1 to work with the WM6 ROM? Isn't AS 4.5 the only version that works with WM6?
As been said, our devices are totally unpredictable, which is really disappointing. I'm happy for you, for getting everything running, and I hope that my device will do that as well soon.
I'll be more than glad if someone here will be able to assist in that matter.
Thank you all,
Guy.
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i think guys,IMHO, if the problem doesnt have a solution, change mobile and get the better one. So far, my atom pure is working great so i can wait to buy an iphone ;-)
guysando said:
I have now finished downgrading to AS 4.1 and to the official ROM.
Unfortunately, that did not do the trick. Thinking about it, seems like Homer is right:
The AS doesn't start communicating with the device until its connected to the desktop, after the HR and the SR that follow the ROM upgrade. therefore, there's no obvious reason why it should affect the wifi module, which seems to be off even before that connection. In addition - Anand, how did you get the AS 4.1 to work with the WM6 ROM? Isn't AS 4.5 the only version that works with WM6?
As been said, our devices are totally unpredictable, which is really disappointing. I'm happy for you, for getting everything running, and I hope that my device will do that as well soon.
I'll be more than glad if someone here will be able to assist in that matter.
Thank you all,
Guy.
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I have not yet syncronized my device with WM6 and AS 4.1. I just used it to reflash the Atom.
Also, I have heard, of AS to have an impact on WiFi Connectivity in the past.
Mine is still working fine. Infact, WiFi with WM6 is working much better than WM5.
Also, another thing which my help to have a logical conclusion is the fact, that when I used to sync with my laptop's WiFi on, my PDA's WiFi used to dissappear and when the Laptop's WiFi was off, it used to work well.
To be honest, I tried many things, starting flashing the first Atom update to the cooked roms, with AS downgrade. I wanted to share my experience, was quite excited that it may help many other like me.
Feel sorry for you :-(
Regards,
Anand
WIFI mulfunction
It sounds completly reasonable - a sofware conflict.
I have the same the problem.
However, one morning after recharging my ATOM for a complete night, the WIFI module suddenly worked in the morning till I......used the active sync 4.5 to synchronize it.
I will try to reinstall the 4.1 version and see how it works for me.
Yaniv
I'm a newbie here and considering the purchase of a used x7500 with WM6.0. The current owner has a problem with the bluetooth not functioning. I'm wondering if this might be a common problem with 6.0 and if the new cooked 6.1 (4 – if that’s the latest rom version) might solve such an issue? Also, would you mind directing me to the page that has the most popular /cleanest 6.1 rom? I’m tearing my hair out trying to figure out which is the safest one to use.
Kind regards,
Peter (Bamse1)
no need for 2 threads mate
Okay, but I didn't intend this as the same thread as the other one (see "Cleanest/Most Popular 6.1 rom as of 2DEC08??"). I just carelessly pasted some of the same intro text, but there is a difference. My focus on this thread concerns the BT issue. I will take the liberty to paste a private message reply quote from Brau0303 which helps answer the original question:
... As for the BT issue this could be a junk rom, a bad radio version (software & fixable) a hardware failure or something the current owner simply screwed up because they did not follow instructions and may or may not be fixable.
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Bottom-line: Apparently no clear connection between faulty BT and a bad ROM. In the meantime, the HTC service vendor Anovo Nordic AB in Sweden has agreed to fix it free of charge as long as there is not visible damage (there is not) and it is under the 2-year HTC warranty (which it is). It is not clear what their views are on cooked ROMs, but probably not favorable. Fortunately it has not been flashed and has the stock HTC WM 6.0 - which is good news in this case.
Let me add a reply by Lakeman too:
I personally have never had a bluetooth problem and it is not a common problem... I would hope flashing another rom would fix your bluetooth problem, but some of these phones are getting old (18 mths) so there is the possibility of a hardware issue sometimes it would pay to reflash the radio as they can get corrupted as well just make sure you kmow which spl you have and flash the right one
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I had a lot of bluetooth problems with the stock WM 6 rom. Most of these problems are gone with Michy v5 rom. But my brand new S740 is better still.
Thanks ralf_pp, but this thread is under the Athena X7500 advantage not the Rose S740, unless you're suggesting that Michy v5 also works with the X7500?? Do you mind clarifying?
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Thanks ralf_pp, but this thread is under the Athena X7500 advantage not the Rose S740, unless you're suggesting that Michy v5 also works with the X7500?? Do you mind clarifying?
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I think he was talking about Michy's 5.0 or 5.1 ROM, which are two ROMs for Athena. And then he was probably bragging that his Rose has better bluetooth quality than Athena.
not sure what is on 7500 or 6.0 rom
but on factory original 7510 with 6.1 bluetooth works perfectl for stereo music and phone calls automatically.
it auto plays back, and cuts off as necessary to handle both.
remote control keys (AD2P) works perfectly.
voice dialing command key
phone feature key (press hold to dial last number)
press to mute, etc, etc....
has anyone got a signal strength issue in there WP7 rom for tg01 ? if so do you have a fix ?
I do occasionally lose signal when i'm out and about but when i have a signal the voice quality was perfect. When i first got the phone i could barely hold a conversation with someone and through the hard work of the XDA community all these problems were fixed.
Its early days for WP7 on our devices i'm sure the little problems will be sorted out over time, thanks to the talented developers we are lucky to have working on our device.
I think like this:
I will update into WP7 when:
Camera will work
Radio signal will be as good as in 321 radio
3G will fully work (hsdpa and stuff)
G sensor will work
Mango update will be available (it's probably the easiest tor realize lol)
There will be official "support" so as Marketplace etc
It will be possible to go back into 6.5 without any warning.
Also I got some ideas to realize:
Bootloader from 6.5 can boot into SPL where we can reinitialize the device into wp7 loader, so we don't need to replace original loader, just boot "a loader in a loader" as we do in HD2.
SD Card in HD2 is really good realized because it works like RAID with integral memory, so we don't have something like SD card but Integral memory is Capacity of internal storage + SD card storage, it's possible to port it into TG01 easly.
can we change the radio in wp7?
will anything like this work
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1255325
I too have signal problems...
Don't forget TG01 had crap radio anyway, the issue has just been compounded by moving to WP7
well if this signal problem cant be solved i may aswel flash back to wm6.5 tonnight
True, i will try to be back later, but, i never had problem with signal before on my tg01...
hi!
USSD protocol also did not work.
however SMS works ok.
did someone was able to run any of registy editor?
maybe there lay a problem
Hello everyone! I found out that if you turn off 3G networking you will not have big problems with signal any more!
Just go to the setting>celluar>3g disabile
Teslic said:
Hello everyone! I found out that if you turn off 3G networking you will not have big problems with signal any more!
Just go to the setting>celluar>3g disabile
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REALLY? i just flashed back to wm6.5 this morning i may have to flash back to wp7 to test this out can any one else please confirm this ?
maybe it has to do with the 3g drivers, which cause errors because they are not implemented yet?
Realy dont know, but it is definitlly software problem. I hope that this problem will be solved very soon... That is only BIG bug! Only if developers solve this problem i will stay on this rom 4 shure!
This is best software for this device...
Teslic said:
Hello everyone! I found out that if you turn off 3G networking you will not have big problems with signal any more!
Just go to the setting>celluar>3g disabile
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It can be true, my 3g is always off and my phone signal is always good.
Teslic majstore Yes it is true the signal is better, to me allmost full all the time. I had turned off 3g earlier and signal was good but then i restarted my phone settings and the signal was poor again. I didn't realize it was because of that. Great tweak Teslic and thanks
did not work for me i turned 3g off my signal whent exelent and was able to make a call then about 30 seconds later it went back to poor signal that cant call
i'm just waiting for 3g to work, then i'm gonna flash it to have a game station while being on the road