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Hi people, had my TyTN for over 2 weeks now (HTC Branded tytn....HT628 serial number)
Just have a few questions:
1. Are upgrades easily done on the TyTN
2. What are these 'ROMs' i keep hearing about??
3. What KILLER apps do people use on it??
(excuse my newbie-ness)
Thanks.
You cant be serious...or you simply just have more money than brains.
1. Yes, but be prepared to re-install all of your apps.
2. Roms are basically the core operating system for the TyTn's, Roms and upgrade go hand in hand(ie, to upgrade your tytn you put a new rom on it)
3. Check out SBSH software and SPB software, both companies make alot of software alot of people use, there is also an abundant amount of freeware out there.
For reviews of applications, pop over here
For a list of apps that are considered 'must haves' check here
ChaoticDruid said:
You cant be serious...or you simply just have more money than brains.
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ChaoticDruid - Give the guy a chance.. we all started somewhere moving to your first "smartphone" must have left you asking some questions too...
ChaoticDruid said:
You cant be serious...or you simply just have more money than brains.
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I'm sorry has my asking questions on a forum offended you in some way?? why bother replying if uve got nothing constructive to say.
Umm, I just got my first cell phone, a LG C2000 about 3 months ago, and have yet to get a TyTN, all I know is before I spend $750 on a device, I read reviews and such, and the first review I read something about ROM's, and well I didnt know about ROM's, but a very easy search on google led me to the answer, and what do you know...during my research, I came across many forums with "must have" software for the TyTN, I'm not out to flame people..but when someone apparently has not even helped themselves at all, I just cant always keep my mouth shut.
It's like this dude bought a TyTN cause it looked cool, showed it off to his friends for a few weeks, and now wants to know how to use it.
ChaoticDruid said:
Umm, I just got my first cell phone, a LG C2000 about 3 months ago, and have yet to get a TyTN, all I know is before I spend $750 on a device, I read reviews and such, and the first review I read something about ROM's, and well I didnt know about ROM's, but a very easy search on google led me to the answer, and what do you know...during my research, I came across many forums with "must have" software for the TyTN, I'm not out to flame people..but when someone apparently has not even helped themselves at all, I just cant always keep my mouth shut.
It's like this dude bought a TyTN cause it looked cool, showed it off to his friends for a few weeks, and now wants to know how to use it.
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In the words of that great scholar, Bill Murray: Lighten up, Francis! This is a board to help others, not to stomp on them...
sorry
ChaoticDruid said:
Umm, I just got my first cell phone, a LG C2000 about 3 months ago, and have yet to get a TyTN, all I know is before I spend $750 on a device, I read reviews and such, and the first review I read something about ROM's, and well I didnt know about ROM's, but a very easy search on google led me to the answer, and what do you know...during my research, I came across many forums with "must have" software for the TyTN, I'm not out to flame people..but when someone apparently has not even helped themselves at all, I just cant always keep my mouth shut.
It's like this dude bought a TyTN cause it looked cool, showed it off to his friends for a few weeks, and now wants to know how to use it.
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I read PLENTY of reviews....even saw the mobilitytoday.com podcast about it...it was such reviews that drew my attention to it in the first place. I was going for the P990i. Dont tar people with the newbie brush when all they ask is a simple set of questions! Im sure there are only a minority (when compared to the size of the userbase) of people who actually know anything about ROMs and upgrading. How many O2 customers have an XDA and arent aware of what ROMs do/are....MANY im sure.
Im just sorry my first post became the bait of a flameboy..........rant over
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ChaoticDruid said:
Umm, I just got my first cell phone, a LG C2000 about 3 months ago, and have yet to get a TyTN, all I know is before I spend $750 on a device, I read reviews and such, and the first review I read something about ROM's, and well I didnt know about ROM's, but a very easy search on google led me to the answer, and what do you know...during my research, I came across many forums with "must have" software for the TyTN, I'm not out to flame people..but when someone apparently has not even helped themselves at all, I just cant always keep my mouth shut.
It's like this dude bought a TyTN cause it looked cool, showed it off to his friends for a few weeks, and now wants to know how to use it.
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I read PLENTY of reviews....even saw the mobilitytoday.com podcast about it...it was such reviews that drew my attention to it in the first place. I was going for the P990i. Dont tar people with the newbie brush when all they ask is a simple set of questions! Im sure there are only a minority (when compared to the size of the userbase) of people who actually know anything about ROMs and upgrading. How many O2 customers have an XDA and arent aware of what ROMs do/are....MANY im sure.
Im just sorry my first post became the bait of a flameboy..........rant over
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mrvanx - On behlaf of PPC users everywhere, welcome to the show. There are a lot of useful forums out there and plenty of people willing to help out without judgement or frivilous flaming. Anyway, have you gotten your TyTN to make video calls yet? Here in the US, Cingular doesn't support this feature so I haven't been able to use it. Just wondering.
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....have you gotten your TyTN to make video calls yet? Here in the US, Cingular doesn't support this feature so I haven't been able to use it. Just wondering.
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Yer ive only made one video call so far as not many people i know have a 3G handset, unfortunatly it wasnt cross network so im yet to see if the networks here in the UK (T-Mobile, Vodefone, 3, Orange and O2) are cooperating with eachother...(MMS wasnt FULLY cross network until about a year into it!!!!)
The person in question has a clamshell-type Samsung handset and the video quality between was brilliant! My UMTS reception is patchy here in York but it was fine. Ended up getting cut off as the other person lost thier UMTS. As said above this was a video call O2 to O2 so couldnt comment on other networks just yet.
Speedwise my UMTS connection has been as high as 944kbps when tested on bandwidthplace.com which i thought was astonishing!!!
When im out of range for 3G it just reverts back to standard GSM and GPRS.
P.S: Thanks for the encouraging words.
bah
Reception of TyTN vs Wizard
Hi folks,
Any other input on the reception of the TyTN and it's variants (8525)? I've got myself a KJAM and an 8125 and I have horrible reception at home. Even did the antenna hack - it adds a little, but still spotty.
I'd like to upgrade to the 8525 for 3G and increased processing power, but the cost isn't worth it for me if the reception is still as bad as the Wizard/KJAM/8125.
Thanks.
Is it a bad thing, I ordered the HTC TYTN from my Service Provider and I don't even have it yet and I am looking for tweaks, hacks and accessories.
I found this forum from Howard Forums. The Wiki for my phone (on this site) helped me tremendously. So thank you to all the contributors of that.
Well my first order of business will be getting Streets and Trips Mobil running on it and for that I am going to need a GPS. From what I gather reading other threads a wired GPS is a bad idea if not futile. So Bluetooth it is. I did a quick Ebay search for a few models I saw mentioned here, and came up with some very wide ranges in prices. I am leery of buying a "cheap" one from Ebay as I have made that mistake before thinking I am getting a great deal only to find out what I bought was flaky at best and junk at worst. So I am looking for some feedback from other people running Bluetooth GPS units on there Hermes type phones.
Ok next question,
Rom, Burnt, Fried, Baked, Cooked, I think they are coming to make me away he ha ha, to the funny farm........ (you have to be older (30-40) to get the joke.
Windows Media 6 sounds awesome, however I don't really want to brick my phone on my first tweak. What is the safest way to update from WM5 to WM6. I am on Rogers AT&T in Canada and would like to maintain most if not all of the features that will come with the phone. From what I understand the Rogers Branded phones have some "unique" registry settings that could be altered when you update to WM6. I am willing to loose them if I have to, in order to update, however if there is a way to keep them I would really prefer it. Specifically the new Named Caller ID. (displays the name of people calling you even if you don't already have them in your phone book)
What should my first tweaks be, are there any really good "to die for" apps out there......
My first love in life is (my wife) however for this topic lets just say cars and driving, hence why I want streets and trips.
My second love is computers and modding. I am also into movies and video's, so big storage will be a must. I want to be able to bring along a couple gig of music and video's with me.
I hope I have not driven anyone away with so many questions. If you can answer even one of my questions that would be helpful, if you can answer them all YOU ARE A GOD.
Thanks in Advance for listening to a newbie post.
first off.. welcome to the forums.. believe me when i tell you youll have tons of fun on new your toy..
secondly, i think you should take time knowing your new toy before you delve into tweaking or playing with it...
thirdly, read up and not until then and coupled with you being comfortable with your device should you consider starting messing with it..
HERE IS A GOOD START....
OF COURSE YOU SHOULD NOT MISS THIS ONE..
hope this helps you for a start and good luck.
oopss. . .forgot addressing your subject line.. (got engrossed reading the body of your post that i do not think mentioned anything about the subject line )
i would suggest you look into BT-818, its small, compact has long battery life (32 hrs. and 32 satellites) and the battery can be replaced by you. i know a lot of members here will recommend something smaller but for me i think being practical without sacrificing functionality is essential..
Thank You Bapski for the quick reply, I have spent the last 2hrs reading through those pages and I don't think I have even scratched the surface of it all. Finding the FTP site link is going to save me a lot of time searching for files.
I hear alot about Black Magic, and CID unlocking. I came across a thread about how to unlock the phone without having to really do much. I guess this is a pretty simple procedure?
Well I have lots more reading to do thanks again for the links. (And I thought I covered most of it in the Wiki)
Well the phone arrived today.
I gave it a charge for about 5hrs and have been kinda playing with it.
Edited because I figured out how to fix my contact issues.
Now next up is upgrading to WM6. I really want to do this upgrade before I spend hours learning and tweaking WM5 which sounds like it will be a waste of time. However I am terrified of bricking the phone. I have downloaded the CID Unlocker and although it sounds as easy as hell, I want to make sure that the unlocker won't kill my phone. What numbers should I get off the phone to verify all this.
Are there any version numbers off of the phone that would / should be added to a database for anyone else to compare with older phones. I skimmed over a database that listed some phones with problems and what phones had what installed. This is a Rogers Branded HTC TYTN phone.
I am not a complete Tech Moron, I just don't know anything about Phones. (I run an Apache Web Server as well as an FTP Server and a separate Media Server)
If anyone has suggestions or thoughts about the safest way to update the phone with the least amount of risk, I would be really interested in hearing about it. I am going to do the update at some point its just a matter of me being comfortable enough with the software to do the updates.
P.S. I found a local supplier for a Bluetooth GPS for $79 which I will be picking up next weekend. Not sure how your board posts URL's so here it is straight up. http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=23763&vpn=IBLUE737&manufacture=i-Blue
Capt Fiero said:
Well the phone arrived today.
I gave it a charge for about 5hrs and have been kinda playing with it.
Edited because I figured out how to fix my contact issues.
Now next up is upgrading to WM6. I really want to do this upgrade before I spend hours learning and tweaking WM5 which sounds like it will be a waste of time. However I am terrified of bricking the phone. I have downloaded the CID Unlocker and although it sounds as easy as hell, I want to make sure that the unlocker won't kill my phone. What numbers should I get off the phone to verify all this.
Are there any version numbers off of the phone that would / should be added to a database for anyone else to compare with older phones. I skimmed over a database that listed some phones with problems and what phones had what installed. This is a Rogers Branded HTC TYTN phone.
I am not a complete Tech Moron, I just don't know anything about Phones. (I run an Apache Web Server as well as an FTP Server and a separate Media Server)
If anyone has suggestions or thoughts about the safest way to update the phone with the least amount of risk, I would be really interested in hearing about it. I am going to do the update at some point its just a matter of me being comfortable enough with the software to do the updates.
P.S. I found a local supplier for a Bluetooth GPS for $79 which I will be picking up next weekend. Not sure how your board posts URL's so here it is straight up. http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=23763&vpn=IBLUE737&manufacture=i-Blue
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safest way is to change your bootloader if your going to flash... its pretty much simple if you have a stable computer and dont pull out your USB while your flashing.... if you dont have enought confidents yet, read more about your phone....
best safety precaution we do here is to install hard spl 2.10.. with this installed, it is said youd be able to avoid bricking (unbrick) your phone if something goes wrong.
safest and fool proof way is to read MRVANX GUIDES
follow all instructions to the letter and youll never go wrong.. i know thats how i did it.. just choose whatever ROM there is on the guides for a start and then once you get the hang of it, you can try other ROM's as you please..
Ok my first ever change to the phone, Hard SPL 2.10 v7 has now been installed on the phone. Followed the guids exactly and worked like a charm. I have not ran any "unlocking software" yet. I guess that is my next step and then loading the official HTC WM6 update.
Yee Haw, I am rocking out now.......
Ok I did the Bootload update.
Then followed the guides again
I updated the Radio and then updated to Fara's Super Clean WM6.
Dang I was all paranoid for nothing, most of this is just click through and go.
There was a few times the Phone asked me questions that were not listed on the guides, but I think I just said, Yes Allow every time it asked anything and all went well.
congratulations... good to hear everything worked out well...
congratulations.. good thing your upgrade went well...
I updated to radio ver 1.41 and am having issues with network connection. GPRS does not want to work and when I am connected to my home wireless router it is spotty at best. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. As well as the range seems to be drastically reduced.
Any suggestions?
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I updated to radio ver 1.41 and am having issues with network connection. GPRS does not want to work and when I am connected to my home wireless router it is spotty at best. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. As well as the range seems to be drastically reduced.
Any suggestions?
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try 1.50........
Thanks, I will try that.
if that dont work try 1.50.10/1.51
I installed Radio version 1.50 and everything is or at least seems to be working great. Lots of things that I am tweaking in WM6.
2 things,
When I had the Rogers WM5 installed I had a a type of Windows Messenger Installed locally that worked well, and now it is gone. Where Do I re-download that from. I have done some searching and only came up with a web based messenger for Mobil phones that loads in I.E.
Next question How do I do batch text messaging. On my old Motorola Razr I could simple compose a message open up my contacts and then go through and check off all the names I wanted to send it to and hit send and it would send to all the people. However in the TYTN I have to add each person separately.
Is there a way to send batch text message with the TYTN?
Ya know I think this thread has moved far enough off topic that it is time that I just start a new thread in diffrent section for all my "newbie questions"
I would like to offer a huge thanks to all that helped me out the past few days learning a new piece of tech. I am still going to have a lot of questions as time goes on. So you can keep your eyes out for me in other Hermes sections. If anyone ever has a car question drop me a PM.
For a Bluetooth GPS you seriously cant go wrong with this:
http://www.amazon.com/Garmin-Blueto...9?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1188928696&sr=8-2
Garmin mobile 10.
Its small, very small.. easy to use. It uses garmins software on your phone. Its not very expensive. has at least a 22hour battery.
It checks traffic when planning routes.. it can tell you gas prices for nearby gass stations, you can check weather, tell it to avoid almost anything.. its just amazing.
Just to update this thread, I did finally buy a Bluetooth GPS. Final price was $61 including shipping. Its a JRT-29 the website, http://www.gpswindow.com/en/picture.asp?idtype=JRT28 kinda sucks, but the unit itself is really nice. About the size of an old slide out tray matchbox. 42ch and works perfect. Came with a car charger USB Cable and software to use it on a PC as well as a mobil phone. (did not need the software for my phone, just my PC)
Thanks again for everyones help.
I'm getting fed up! I have a 16 GB T-Mobile Ameo (x7510 Athe400) with NO means of unlocking it, NO optimised ROMS I can load, and somewhat less than helpful approach from the admins here who cannot even be bothered to create a sub forum for the x7510.
I've had the Ameo for two months now and while the 5" screen is nice, and I appreciate the on-board GPS, the fact is I got it above all else as a tool to do my job. Specifically, to use with Remote Desktop to provide quicker response times in delivering network support to my clients.
I used to be the proud owner of a Universal. The Uni doesn't have GPS, nor an accelerometer and the screen is smaller. It has far less memory (64 and 128 MB models).
It does have 3G and a FAR superior keyboard and my Ameo has never seemed as responsive as the Uni, even though on paper the Ameo should be far superior!
In my car I used to use a Bluetooth rearview mirror as a hands-free solution as I cannot abide those silly earpieces that makes you look like something out of Star Trek! Except I couldn't get it to pair with the Ameo. Oh it paired with my Uni, my Wizard before I broke that, my Touch (elf 256) and now my Touch Diamond, but NOTHING I did could get it to pair with the Ameo!
Result: I had to buy an i.Tech Clip II handsfree device!
There are many little things wrong that I can live with, but the volume of these are stacking up to the point where I'm begiining to think that overall the Ameo is a heap of junk by comparison!
With the default T-Mobile ROM there is NO benefit whatsoever from having an accelerometer! The 16 GB storage is nice to have but not absolutely essential.
I've noticed some others got fed up with their Athenas. Does anybody have any compelling arguments to change my mind about the Ameo?
x7500 is the way in my opinion.
It's all about the rom. Get a secondhand or new Ameo x7500, unlock it, stick MichyPrima's 5.1 rom on it, get a 16GBsdhc card and off you go.
I was on the verge of ditching my ameo as it was getting old and other new shiney phones are always coming out. But now the MP 5.1 rom has changed all that as my x7500 is now fast as f+?k for most things. I even use it before my laptop at work as it is just better. Here is a list of stuff I do with it. (I'm trying to arrange for my boss to donate to Michy! by the way.)
Geotagged photos
downloading rss podcasts, video and audio
gRemote (works well with Vista on my HDTV)
listening to music,
phone calls (video too) with A2DP headset that switches back to music seemlessly.
Facebook (Snap2face) actually use this for work.
Crosswords
Audio notes
Youtube + Blip.tv
Weather
radio (via wifi)
flashlight (gets bloody dark where I live)
Gps navigation (google maps & TomTom)
Sprit level
Altimeter
File transfere (only thing microdive is good for IMHO)
Alarm Clock
Presentations with video out.
Audiobooks.
Email.
All of this works without a hitch and I charge my phone for 1.5 hours a day, (switched off=way quicker). I have tried many other units including iphone et al and not found anything that comes close. I am a technology advisor for artists in the area so this Ameo gets about 10hrs use a day and has only broke once which was my own stupid fault.
hope this helps.
P.s I never use the keyboard as the on screen is faster.
Thanks Matt. The problem is mine is an x7510 and there is no unlocker available for it.
Worse yet, what little technical info there is on the x7510 is mixed in with lots of detail about the x7500 and x7501, both of which have substantially different hardware.
I was lucky - Olipro's unlocker failed at an early stage and thus didn't brick my x7501. I ran the unlocker because it wasn't made clear anywhere that it is not safe to run on an x7510.
Others weren't so lucky and are now the proud owners of some rather expensive paperweights.
Despite this the admins here don't rate it as an issue at all and refuse to even comment on requests for a seperate x7510 forum under the Athena forum, let alone create it!
The Athena forum leans toward nasty, with various indivuduals having a superior attitude with callous disregard for others. I may not be able to code an unlocker, but I'll give them a right run for their money coding apps that tie Active Directory, Exchange and 3rd party SQL DB's together.
The Uni, Wizard and Elf forums don't suffer so much with bloody overinflated egos.
You know, people must have some SERIOUS self-image issues if they need to constantly "prove" to others just how superior they truly are! Saddos!
Having said that, there are some truly gifted and talented people here who selflessly give and don't have the attitude. Being friendly costs nothing!
Also, it's a bit like a night in a pub: never mind the loud-mouth little pip-squak trying to convince the world what a fighter he is - but watch out for the ones that don't boast!
To be fair, yes I can see benefits the Athena has, but with the exception of the on-board GPS and HSDPA I feel I was far better off with my Uni. Certainly with the Uni there was miles more support and none of the attitude problems. So I may yet sell my Athena and buy another Universal.
I think he meant sell your new one and get an old one.
To be fair most Athena users are busines speople who would have kep it ristiine, so you're pretty likely to pick up an X7500/01 in great condition pretty cheap.
I know what you mean about angry people here, but sometimes people need to be told to shut the f*ck up and search.
And with regards to an X7510 subforum, I think the mods dont see any advantage to it. No top devs have one, so very little chance of hard-spl and therefore custom roms, and o it will just be full of people moaning about having no unlocker.
Rory
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Thanks Matt. The problem is mine is an x7510 and there is no unlocker available for it.
Worse yet, what little technical info there is on the x7510 is mixed in with lots of detail about the x7500 and x7501, both of which have substantially different hardware.
I was lucky - Olipro's unlocker failed at an early stage and thus didn't brick my x7501. I ran the unlocker because it wasn't made clear anywhere that it is not safe to run on an x7510.
Others weren't so lucky and are now the proud owners of some rather expensive paperweights.
Despite this the admins here don't rate it as an issue at all and refuse to even comment on requests for a seperate x7510 forum under the Athena forum, let alone create it!
The Athena forum leans toward nasty, with various indivuduals having a superior attitude with callous disregard for others. I may not be able to code an unlocker, but I'll give them a right run for their money coding apps that tie Active Directory, Exchange and 3rd party SQL DB's together.
The Uni, Wizard and Elf forums don't suffer so much with bloody overinflated egos.
You know, people must have some SERIOUS self-image issues if they need to constantly "prove" to others just how superior they truly are! Saddos!
Having said that, there are some truly gifted and talented people here who selflessly give and don't have the attitude. Being friendly costs nothing!
Also, it's a bit like a night in a pub: never mind the loud-mouth little pip-squak trying to convince the world what a fighter he is - but watch out for the ones that don't boast!
To be fair, yes I can see benefits the Athena has, but with the exception of the on-board GPS and HSDPA I feel I was far better off with my Uni. Certainly with the Uni there was miles more support and none of the attitude problems. So I may yet sell my Athena and buy another Universal.
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My advice to you would be to speak with Olinex and Pawel directly and see if you can convince them to come back to this side of the world to do a bit more work with the X7510's. I totally understand your frustration, however I still believe that the X750(x) is still the better way to go for the 7510's. Both because of Hardware and software support. You can get the housing for the 7500's and replacement keyboards on ebay. And as you already pointed out the ability to do ROM updates on the likes of the 750(x)'s. If I were you I wouldn't give up just yet though. But if infact you can't wait then maybe you can trade in the 7510's for the touch HD and join the likes of Pawel and Oli over on that side of the world. I myself have to skip that one though, because their's nothing like my X7501 to date, well I stand corrected the (X7500's) are better.
At work we have the 7510's and to be honest im glad I have the 7500 of my own. the support for the 750* is fantastic on here as you are well aware, but the 7510 is so close yet so far away from it, its just TOO much like the older version to be worth starting over. As already said here you can sell up your 7510 to someone who wants "the up to date model" and replace it with a 7500, then you are away. well that is my veiw for you as well.
Regards
Jay
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And with regards to an X7510 subforum, I think the mods dont see any advantage to it. No top devs have one, so very little chance of hard-spl and therefore custom roms, and o it will just be full of people moaning about having no unlocker.
Rory
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there is more than little chance, for unlocker, soon.
also I contacted a mod to help with this subforum thing
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maybe you can trade in the 7510's for the touch HD and join the likes of Pawel and Oli over on that side of the world. I myself have to skip that one though, because their's nothing like my X7501 to date, well I stand corrected the (X7500's) are better.
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nah, any Athena is better than touch HD. so in full agreement there
I'll give you $500 USD and my x7500 for it.
NanoRuler said:
I'm getting fed up! I have a 16 GB T-Mobile Ameo (x7510 Athe400) with NO means of unlocking it, NO optimised ROMS I can load, and somewhat less than helpful approach from the admins here who cannot even be bothered to create a sub forum for the x7510.
I've had the Ameo for two months now and while the 5" screen is nice, and I appreciate the on-board GPS, the fact is I got it above all else as a tool to do my job. Specifically, to use with Remote Desktop to provide quicker response times in delivering network support to my clients.
I used to be the proud owner of a Universal. The Uni doesn't have GPS, nor an accelerometer and the screen is smaller. It has far less memory (64 and 128 MB models).
It does have 3G and a FAR superior keyboard and my Ameo has never seemed as responsive as the Uni, even though on paper the Ameo should be far superior!
In my car I used to use a Bluetooth rearview mirror as a hands-free solution as I cannot abide those silly earpieces that makes you look like something out of Star Trek! Except I couldn't get it to pair with the Ameo. Oh it paired with my Uni, my Wizard before I broke that, my Touch (elf 256) and now my Touch Diamond, but NOTHING I did could get it to pair with the Ameo!
Result: I had to buy an i.Tech Clip II handsfree device!
There are many little things wrong that I can live with, but the volume of these are stacking up to the point where I'm begiining to think that overall the Ameo is a heap of junk by comparison!
With the default T-Mobile ROM there is NO benefit whatsoever from having an accelerometer! The 16 GB storage is nice to have but not absolutely essential.
I've noticed some others got fed up with their Athenas. Does anybody have any compelling arguments to change my mind about the Ameo?
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Arctic Matt said:
It's all about the rom. Get a secondhand or new Ameo x7500, unlock it, stick MichyPrima's 5.1 rom on it, get a 16GBsdhc card and off you go.
I was on the verge of ditching my ameo as it was getting old and other new shiney phones are always coming out. But now the MP 5.1 rom has changed all that as my x7500 is now fast as f+?k for most things. I even use it before my laptop at work as it is just better. Here is a list of stuff I do with it. (I'm trying to arrange for my boss to donate to Michy! by the way.)
Geotagged photos
downloading rss podcasts, video and audio
gRemote (works well with Vista on my HDTV)
listening to music,
phone calls (video too) with A2DP headset that switches back to music seemlessly.
Facebook (Snap2face) actually use this for work.
Crosswords
Audio notes
Youtube + Blip.tv
Weather
radio (via wifi)
flashlight (gets bloody dark where I live)
Gps navigation (google maps & TomTom)
Sprit level
Altimeter
File transfere (only thing microdive is good for IMHO)
Alarm Clock
Presentations with video out.
Audiobooks.
Email.
All of this works without a hitch and I charge my phone for 1.5 hours a day, (switched off=way quicker). I have tried many other units including iphone et al and not found anything that comes close. I am a technology advisor for artists in the area so this Ameo gets about 10hrs use a day and has only broke once which was my own stupid fault.
hope this helps.
P.s I never use the keyboard as the on screen is faster.
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Hi Artic Matt, which headset are you using?
I have 5.1 ROM and too much problems with bluetooth stack and a watch MBW 150, maybe because the headset, no the ROM I don't know. But the vibration funcionality of the Jabra is nice for the athena.
anyone mananged to figure out that ap4 and ap5 had a x7510 spl that was a hardspl and then also ap4 and ap5 were made with the x7510 in mind. meaning the hardspl and roms for the x7510 are already there. cmonex might have to correct me but i believe the ap4 rom together with the spl upgrade will give u a hardspl'ed and custom rom run'in x7510.
Pawel062 said:
anyone mananged to figure out that ap4 and ap5 had a x7510 spl that was a hardspl and then also ap4 and ap5 were made with the x7510 in mind. meaning the hardspl and roms for the x7510 are already there. cmonex might have to correct me but i believe the ap4 rom together with the spl upgrade will give u a hardspl'ed and custom rom run'in x7510.
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I thought this process was leading to some bricked 7510s, hence the request for a new subforum...
Plus, are the drivers for the flash drive in there?
@hdbueller: That's a crazy-good deal! I'm almost inclined to buy a new 7510 and trade you...
larsuck said:
I thought this process was leading to some bricked 7510s, hence the request for a new subforum...
Plus, are the drivers for the flash drive in there?
@hdbueller: That's a crazy-good deal! I'm almost inclined to buy a new 7510 and trade you...
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his x7500 is a bit messed up i believe. thats why hes looking for something new
Just a few scratches is all....lol Not on the screen, just the case. No missing parts or functional issues tho. It does have a silver keyboard now tho....mine did not like coffee....LOL
Currently running the Michy 5.1 rom with the 1.58 radio and tom-tom 7.....It works perfectly in all regards. I just want the flash hd.....Also has the box and paperwork.
Later..........
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his x7500 is a bit messed up i believe. thats why hes looking for something new
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Just a few scratches is all....lol Not on the screen, just the case. No missing parts or functional issues tho. It does have a silver keyboard now tho....mine did not like coffee....LOL
Currently running the Michy 5.1 rom with the 1.58 radio and tom-tom 7.....It works perfectly in all regards. I just want the flash hd.....Also has the box and paperwork.
Later..........
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lol sorry i guess i misunderstood you. plus i thought u wanted my athena/polaris
Yeah, but as you know, I wouldn't mind an X7510 too.....
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lol sorry i guess i misunderstood you. plus i thought u wanted my athena/polaris
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As long as I know BA support using of the BT only as an audio device (headset), im interested in device which is a bit more than that, anyone know will BA work with devices like this one ?
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.32355
would be nice if you tested something like that / it would be nice not to waste 35$
thanks, best regards to community and especially Chef Tony !!!
incredible, no one knows the answer...
i think it depends on the rom you use. with the cooked roms there are a few new bluetooth drivers integrated, that gave the blueangel the feature of a2dc for instance. that was not integrated in wm2003. having said that, i guess the protocols supported by bluetooth are purely software/driver related, while the hardware only limits the connection speed and distance. it's a shame that site does not show, what protocol is used for caller id and unfortunately i have never owned any bluetooth accessory that would provide the same function.
i would be 65% sure that it works though, if i were you, i would go look for a good local retailer or web shop with a money back guarantee. dealextreme has a good money back guarantee, but i guess, you'd have to pay for the shipping back to them, which, in your case, would be half way around the planet and probably not that cheap. or maybe, one of the others knows about the protocol, and then we can find out with certainty, if it will work.
thank you chef Tony, true reply of the master, best regards and respect !
yes
most likely new cable is inexpensive
So yeah, we all know asus botched the GPS in their latest tablet,
they denied us a fix (irony) and now we're left to pick up the pieces ourselves.
Does anyone have some pointers on how to get a bluetooth GPS receiver to work on the prime?
I have a really old one (+7yrs) that doesn't seem to catch on with any of the apps I tried.
Its so old its unlikely to be compatible with anything android so a new one is in order,
so I was wondering if anyone knew a cheap one I could grab to get some GPS going.
In a quick search I found this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/BT-Mini-Mob...408?pt=AU_GPS_Accessories&hash=item4160a71b08
It certainly is cheap, but is it a viable receiver?
Any help towards getting GPS on my prime would be greatly appreciated!
(No I dont have a GPS phone..)
Cheers,
- Sven
Him.. I would be a bit leery of that thing. Something seems a little.. anemic? Get it, try it, report back as I would be curious how well it works and how long the battery lasts. Check Amazon for "Keychain Bluetooth GPS Receiver" if you want something like that and read some reviews.
I have read very good things about the Pharos GPS brand.
Naturally, you then need an app from the market on your tablet that talks to the unit so that you can get the GPS data it has sent to your tablet. So, it is not just as simple as pairing the 2 BT devices, an app is needed to then gather and use the data on the tablet.
Ive looked into those apps, they do something called mock location I think?
I have an old as hell GPS receiver but alas the apps weren't having it.
It pairs as normal, even does the 0000 password thing like it used to on my win mobile 2003,
but it simply isn't pumping out any data, not sure whats going wrong.
And yeah, the pricetag on that ebay one is raising some "this cant be decent" flags on my end too.
Then again some of the cheap Chinese crappery has surprised me before.
If at all possible id prefer buying a tried-and-true GPS unit though.
Pharos brand IGPS 500 has been talked about many times here alone in the Prime threads.
Assuming it is this thing, I find the price a bit steep,
for 90 bucks you can pretty much buy a standalone tomtom or similar.
I was hoping for someone to confirm wether or not the specs listed on that ebay receiver would be compatible and workable for navigation,
and if it could in theory work, id gladly be the guineapig to try it out and see how it goes.
But if it would be a dud per definition there'd be no point.
Shop around my friend, I can see some on ebay for $50 and used for much much less.
The one on eBay does "in theory" work. Like I said, search Amazon and read some reviews on those little keychain models.
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Ive looked into those apps, they do something called mock location I think?
I have an old as................................................
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Just FYI regarding 'mock locations'. That's actually a setting in the TF201 that you have to use with external gps units. I can use Google Navigation on my TF201 with data from my phone gps via wifi (using the TetherGPS program that is available in the market). In order to make it work I have to turn on 'Allow mock locations' by going to Settings, Applications, Development and then click 'Allow mock locations'.
Good luck, and let us know how it goes.
I have tried and tried and tried to get my Droid to tether GPS but have not been able to make it happen - tried many apps and many settings. I can, however, tether 3G and data all day long. Have not yet solved the GPS via my phone yet as we have great GPS units in our phones already.. generally speaking.
Yes, many used ones, even one for 29 bucks, but "ya'll yanks" dont like us Dutchies.
None of em are willing to ship to the Netherlands so im plum out of luck with ebay and pharos.
Local shops here dont seem to carry Pharos products at all, so that's two dead ends on that one im afraid.
Amazon doesn't seem to carry any keychain GPS units.
So meanwhile I went to one of my favorite cheap swag suppliers, deal extreme.
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/65-cha...king-bluetooth-gps-receiver-data-logger-26337
What do you guys think of this thing? Its acing the reviews it seems.
They also mention google maps working with it somehow, so there may be a good chance?
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Yes, many used ones, even one for 29 bucks, but "ya'll yanks" dont like us Dutchies.
None of em are willing to ship to the Netherlands so im plum out of luck with ebay and pharos.
Local shops here dont seem to carry Pharos products at all, so that's two dead ends on that one im afraid.
Amazon doesn't seem to carry any keychain GPS units.
So meanwhile I went to one of my favorite cheap swag suppliers, deal extreme.
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/65-cha...king-bluetooth-gps-receiver-data-logger-26337
What do you guys think of this thing? Its acing the reviews it seems.
They also mention google maps working with it somehow, so there may be a good chance?
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Yes, they certainly do, here is just 1 http://www.amazon.com/Freedom-Input-Keychain-GPS-2000/dp/B0010NQ08M maybe not in the price you want, but they do carry several models.
Not only that, Amazon has the pharos IGPS new and used and if you can shop there, you can buy there. I would take the proven pharos in same price range over an unproven model any day.
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Yes, they certainly do, here is just 1 http://www.amazon.com/Freedom-Input-Keychain-GPS-2000/dp/B0010NQ08M maybe not in the price you want, but they do carry several models.
Not only that, Amazon has the pharos IGPS new and used and if you can shop there, you can buy there. I would take the proven pharos in same price range over an unproven model any day.
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Phobos is an American thing it seems, I cant shop at amazon.com either.
Although I agree with you that it is worth paying a little more if its a proven fix,
I cant get my hands on them so they are definitely out.
The 99 dollar keychain one probably doesn't resemble the 12 dollar one much.
bluetooth gpa
am using holux blue tooth gps receiver with bluegps program from market and have full gps functionality on prime.
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am using holux blue tooth gps receiver with bluegps program from market and have full gps functionality on prime.
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Could you please specify which type you have?
Dealextreme seems to offer this brand, so I can get one if it really works well.
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/holux-m-1000-32-channel-bluetooth-car-gps-receiver-25563
Yeah, if your going to post a brand you have used with success here, PLEASE try to include the model - that would be super helpful.
Notice how the Holux says "32 parallel satellite-tracking channels for fast acquisition and reacquisition" and that one on Amazon is 51 (2x the price) and the Pharos does not say.
That other one on dealextreme even boasts 65 sats. Thats a helluva lot of sats.
Unfortunately its impossible to know if its actually compatible.
I did email the manufacturer about android compatability,
but the site was full of chinglish so dont expect an answer.
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That other one on dealextreme even boasts 65 sats. Thats a helluva lot of sats.
Unfortunately its impossible to know if its actually compatible.
I did email the manufacturer about android compatability,
but the site was full of chinglish so dont expect an answer.
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The thing is, there is no reason why it would not be "android compatible". These BT type GPS devices are BT devices. So, if they use a current BT standard - which they should - your fine. A BT type GPS is not made to be manufacturer specific. That is the point and beauty of them. They are for tablets, phones, computers, whatever. So that is not even a question worth asking.
The only things you should care about is the quality and name of the brand you choose and the software app you choose to put on your tablet. The tablet app you use is likely way more critical as it is what will do all of the work in sending the GPS signals to your tablet. The BT GPS unit is kind of just dumb in terms of who it is talking to and who talks to it. It does not really care. It has a current BT chip inside to communicate with a BT device - and so does your tablet. The software is going to be crucial as much as the quality of the GPS unit.... point is there is no "android compatible" BT GPS unit per se. These units are made to work with phones, laptops, tablets and more. It is brand dumb.
Every unit talked about here so far should 100% work. IF they do not, it is likely (1) a GPS quality issue - hence a $14 BT GPS keychain versus a $50-100 model or (2) the tablet software you pick to connect the 2 to talk.
If I could post a link I'd send you to the GPS over BT thread in the Android Forums. I'm still a few post shy of linking externally here.
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If I could post a link I'd send you to the GPS over BT thread in the Android Forums. I'm still a few post shy of linking externally here.
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Thanks.. getting it done is not so much of an issue - tons of places on the web explain it. The software exists in the market as well. Really, it is first about picking the desired BT GPS unit of choice - I think that is the goal here first.
I know theres tons of apps for it, but its not as universal as it all sounds.
My receiver is proof of that unfortunately.
I think ill order the keychain one just for laughs,
we might get pleasantly surprised.
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I know theres tons of apps for it, but its not as universal as it all sounds.
My receiver is proof of that unfortunately.
I think ill order the keychain one just for laughs,
we might get pleasantly surprised.
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I say go for it. Try it and see. Not a real huge loss if not. If not, sell it on craigslist and get your money back.
BUT, your not entirely correct. You self admit "I have a really old one (+7yrs)" - do you (1) realize how old that is in tech and (2) I bet that thing uses way old BT technology as just 1 possible reason why (not to mention GPS standards). Point is, my comment above is most certainly related to current & modern technology so needs that obvious context - not a piece from 2005