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Hello everyone,
I have tried the two reg patch by Sin () to add the Handsfree profile to my Qtek 2020 (with WM2003SE). I use the very good Bluetooth headset by Globalsat BTH-808, and I have seen these things:
- When in Headset mode: the blu BT Led on the Globalsat flash one time per second. If one call incomes, an icon on the top bar light on in my Qtek and I can use the Globalsat to answer the call, or I can transfer audio back to Qtek and use it to answer the call.
- When in Handsfree mode: the blu BT Led on the Globalsat flash three time per second (awful). An icon noticing the HF Profile is ever on the top bar (with or without a call incoming, and this is not good, i think). If one call incomes, I can use at the same time the Globalsat or the Qtek (audio comes out from the Qtek and from the Globalsat).
Where is the good useful way of this? Why do I need the Handsfree profile too? to make voice dialing (adding relative software)? I didn't liked it and I disabled back the HF profile...
Can someone explain to me how the Hadsfree profile is good?
Thank's
facts
Hands free mode is great when using the right OS.
hands free is more robust. It offers caller ID, etc.
Headset will not do caller ID but I believe it may offer better battery life.
Also with your 2.02-2.06, you will notice while in hands free that the mic on the headset does not work, only the one on the phone.. Even though you can hear sound on the headset!!
If I am wrong, please tell me.
One OS that supports Hands free is the 2.20 translated or in original Chinese. But the caller ID is not consistent on some if not all devices. The caller ID will not be displayed if you have already received the call or if it is in your contacts. It also has some bugs when someone calls on the call waiting and you switch over to it, you will loose the sound on both the headset and the phone until you turn off hands free and then back on.
The other OS, 2005, is GREAT with the Hands free and the phone program, no bugs AT ALL with bluetooth and the phone, BUT, the contacts, email and calendar database are different so it will not work with many programs and the memory size is messed up and small.
I am switching back to my 2.20 translated today.
I wish someone wuld fix it.
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ccrrazzzy said:
Hands free mode is great when using the right OS.
hands free is more robust. It offers caller ID, etc.
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Hmmm, no... with my device (Qtek 2020, aka XDA II/MDA II and WM2003 SE 2.06) the CallerID works great with either Headset profile and Handfree Profile...
ccrrazzzy said:
Headset will not do caller ID but I believe it may offer better battery life.
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Yes this is real: Headset is more light for battery life cause it lets BT headset to go online only during call incoming...
ccrrazzzy said:
Also with your 2.02-2.06, you will notice while in hands free that the mic on the headset does not work, only the one on the phone.. Even though you can hear sound on the headset!!
If I am wrong, please tell me.
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According to me you are wrong, cause my device have the headset mic working in either Headset and Handfree profile. The only practic difference between the two profiles are that HS goes idle and come online only during call incoming, instead HF is online not stop.
ccrrazzzy said:
One OS that supports Hands free is the 2.20 translated or in original Chinese. But the caller ID is not consistent on some if not all devices. The caller ID will not be displayed if you have already received the call or if it is in your contacts. It also has some bugs when someone calls on the call waiting and you switch over to it, you will loose the sound on both the headset and the phone until you turn off hands free and then back on.
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Again... with my device all works fine, but I don't like the headset all time in waiting/online modem with its led blinking speedly and the boring icon on the top bar (so if you miss a call or receive a sms, you see the baloon tooltip to advice you that more than 1 alert are waiting). I don't know about your bugs cause I never tested these cases
ccrrazzzy said:
The other OS, 2005, is GREAT with the Hands free and the phone program, no bugs AT ALL with bluetooth and the phone, BUT, the contacts, email and calendar database are different so it will not work with many programs and the memory size is messed up and small.
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I am yet not happy about the WM2003SE 2.06WWE speed on booting and its stability... so I will not go further on with Magneto/WM2005... When I will be able to do, I will buy a new device with Magneto natively working...
ccrrazzzy said:
I am switching back to my 2.20 translated today.
I wish someone wuld fix it.
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Good flashing and have a nice weekend!
The difference between the two right now using WM2k3SE is:
Handsfree allows you to redial the last number using your BT headset (hold headset button for 2-3 secs).
Headset allows to use the BT headset to talk on the phone.
Other than that they don't do anything else with the current OS (at least for me)
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I am using a Jabra BT800 and I have talked to people who are using Erickson HBH200 and HBH660 and one guy who is using an xLive. The people I have talked to using 2.02 or 2.06 or Sin's 2.02-2.06 merge, all said these devices are not having the caller ID working and the Hands Free would give them the stereo affect.
You are the first.
I have tried 2.02, 2.06 and the Sin's combined one. All would not display properly with the caller ID on my BT800. And even with the addition of the reg key, hkey local machine, software, Microsoft, Bluetooth, "HandsfreeProfileOn", I would get the caller ID, only if the number was not in my contacts and it was not already in my call history of the BT device.
I have also tried BT tools, I have tried every patch and tried all the widcomm stuff too.
I am very curious to know what you have for a ROM and any BT additions or patches and I am very interested to know what caller ID BT device you have.
Maybe you misunderstood what I was saying as well, please know that I was talking about caller ID being displayed upon the BT device, not the phone.
One other thing that Hands free does is allows for the possibility of BT activated voice dial. Like the the voicesignal program on my MPX300.
There has to be a hardware specific driver for each device so when you press the button, it transfers the audio and Mic to the BT headset and starts the voice recognition program. Other wise, we would have had BT voice dial on our HTC devices by now. http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=15191&start=50
ccrrazzzy
I misunderstood the BT device you're using for caller ID (I don't have such device, I was talking about the phone itself).
As far as redialing using the Headset, I am using the Motorola HS850 and I was able to use it to redial the last number. However I end up turning the Handfree off when I don't need it in order to avoid the Mic issue on the headset. When I paired the headset, I chose headset profile only. When ever I need the handfree capability, I normall go under Start/Settings/Connections/Bluetooth/Devices hold my stylus on the device (HS850) then choose "Set as Hands-free" on the pop menu.
For Crrrrraaaazzzyyy:
For Crrrrraaaazzzyyy:
Sorry for your device... I can tell you that with the Globalsat BTH-808 (see the ebay link below), it works smooth in headset Profile (1 or 2 seconds and I can answer from the headset button), and it works smooth in Handfree profile (but as I said, i don't like the behaviour): you can buy the headset from here
http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6334980179
Have a nice day!
BT
Sorry I was not clearer at first. I was speaking about the caller ID on the BT headset or in a BT car audio system.
Hands free is needed to have features like caller ID on the BT device and voice dial and to be able to scroll through the BT device's caller ID history and make calls from that while leaving your cell phone safely tucked in your briefcase or hip case.
With my MPX300, because it supports BT voice dial through the BT headset, and with my caller ID on my Jabra BT800 BT headset, I can have all the power of my phone on my ear; being able to make calls through the caller ID history and through dialing via voice dial by speaking the phone number OR speaking the contacts name AND be able to see who is calling me, all while my cell phone-PDA is about 30 feet away!
I just wish we had this on the XDAII because I hate my MPX300; small screen and low memory make it useless.
Through the 2.20 OS, I am able to get caller ID functioning somewhat, but I have to disable call waiting. However to get BT voice dial to work, we will need someone to make a driver like the one that is in the MPX300 and use software like FONIX or www.voicesignal.com
Here is how we can make voicedial work on BT.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=19233&highlight=
XDAII-TSM500 and Jabra BT800 incompatibility ???
I cannot use neither the microphone nor the headphone of the BT800 instead of the XDAII for listennig mp3 files or recording notes.
When I use headset mode, I can speak and hear throuhg BT800 and it is possible to use the buttons to answer and hang during a phone calling, but is not possible to dial, see the caller number and other features.
When I use handsfree mode, I can get most of features but the BT800 microphone does not work and I have to use the one of the PDA.
Any way, only it is possible to use the BT800 in phone mode, not in PDA mode. However it works perfectly whit my IPAQ.
Could anybody give me any idea ?
BT
Please read everything.
Again,
With a caller ID device like the BT800, it needs Hands Free mode to work right. 2.02 and 2.06 do not do Hands Free well.
Only 2.20 and 2005 but 2005 has other bugs. In 2.20 you must disable call waiting or live with clicking upon Tools, Hands-Free Off, then Tools, Hands-Free On to resume the sound on the BT headset when you try to switch back to the first call. You will have to do this even if you ignore a call.
2005 works VERY well with BT and the phone but there are other bugs like lack of memory and database not compatible with third party programs.
I am sorry ccrrazzzy
I did not mention I have two other poblems:
One is that I am a beginner whith these machines, less than two weeks working whith them, and some concepts are confusing to me.
The other is, my short english (obvious ?) make me misunderstand things and to explain them is even worse.
I understood that all problems appear using the phone and not using the PDA for listening mp3 files, for example. When I use the BT800 whith my IPAQ 5500 (headset only) works like a wired headphones and I thought that it should work in the same way whith the XDA, forgeting the phone features.
I will try whith 2.20.
Many thanks for your answer and excuse me.
mp3 will not work unless you get http://www.bluetake.com/products/BT420EX.htm or the HP one.
While using Headset profile, in 2.02, 2.06 and 2.20, The BT800 will work but I experienced an 8 or 9 second delay before call is transfered to the headset when someone call me. Calling out is OK.
Hands free and 2.20 is only good way with BT800.
No audio on BT headset on the XDAII, no matter what OS... Like the mono audio on your other pda, it will not work on xdaii.
I am trying the xLive now, will post results. It has built in MP3 player and is BT cell phone Hands free. Only $90.
These will not make you look like you are from outer space
http://www.itechdynamic.com/html/border22.htm
Support HiFi audio, stereo but I doubt they will work on the XDAII.
You could make them work with the widcomm stack but that stack does not work with Hands Free and I forget if it works with Headset.
If this thing had caller ID and worked for sure with the XDAII, I would get it.
Hi folks,
Greetings from Italy.
First of all congratulations for this web site and thanks to all people who share their info's with others.
Problem: I use a Qtek 2020 with his original latest ROM 1.75.04ITA, radio 1.14.00, with a Logitech BT headset . This configuration works fine, and I can make/receive phone calls without any problem. I also have installed TT5 with a BT GPS Leadtek device and it works fine, BUT I can't hear TT5 vocal instructions in my BT headset! The voice from TT5 is only available on Qtek speaker.
If I receive a phone call during TT5 usage, the phone call is correctly diversed on my BT headset, on TT5 screen appears an icon showing 'Vocal instructions suspended' (but the graphic instructions are ok) and at the end of phone call the vocal instructions start again.
Note that using wired headset all works perfectly.
How can I hear these vocal instructions into my BT headset?
I know using Nokia 7710 with identical configuration it works fine, why using Qtek isn't?
Pls help me! It's is very important, because I'm an ambluance driver, and this function should be VERY useful for us in our job.
I'm availabe to all modifications: i.e. change ROM, change BT stack (but I'm not able..need instructions..), change WinMobile version... whatever you want if it can be the solution!
The only thing I don't want is to buy another device or a BT adapter.
Thanks,
Valerio
Just recently bought the iPhono mini BT450Rx to use with my SX66 with WM2003SE. Cannot make all features work at the same time. Here's the story. The mp3 players I'm using are WMPlayer and TCPMP
Installed Broadcom stack 3900 I got "hands-free" and "High Quality Audoi" working, but play/pause/stop/Prex/Next buttons on right earphone wouldn't work. Volume buttons do work.
Here I'd like to notice, that I also have Motorola HT820 BT stereo and its perfectly working with this stack with all buttons, receiving calls and so on. The only problem with HT820 I found so far: if I'm listening mp3 and there's an incoming call and I've answered it without pausing mp3 player, then, after end of the phone call I have to disconnect and reconnect BT Audio device in BT Manager. However, if I put mp3 player on pause and pick up the call, then I can just continue listening.
I tried to change the BT driver and found the one from HP for HP BT stereo, (which I also tried initially, but because it doesn't have "hands-free", I returned it and bought Motorola). It was downloaded from HP site, dont have link right now, but the exe filename is SP3003.EXE. The driver's version was 1.6.0700
Having installed this one I got stereo AND buttons working with mp3 player, but "hand-free" stopped working, probably because the driver is intended for the stereo headphones only, not the "hands-free".
Making some researches I realized, that the part that controlls buttons is sitting in the \windows\BTCeAvIf.dll file. So I extracted this file from HP 1.6.0700 driver, reinstalled Broadcom 1.0.3900 stack and replaced the file above. After all this manipulations, I got hansfree working, able to make calls BUT only to the moment when I connect Audio profile. At this moment I can listen mp3s, control, mp3 player with buttons on the iPhono mini, but cannot talk on the phone. However, if I disconnect "HQ Audio" profile in BT manager, the headset profile gets activated again.
This is pretty annoying, knowing, that HT820 works pretty well without all this tweaks.
Can anybody tell me whether I'm doing anything wrong, or if there's better drivers for iPhono, because I coudn't find another solution so far.
One of the good things with iPhono is it has 4 buttons in mp3 player mode play/stop/next/prev vs HT820 with play/next/prev.
The only thing, I cannot quite understand, since the stop button is also power/(make)answer the call button, how this device is going to determine whether I want to stop music or pick up the phone for making or answering call.
Hi there, I read your thread with a lot of interest cause i have the same problems as you. I purchased the BT450Rx too and had them paired with a Prophet, and I'm the same problems. Actualy, FF/REw works for me in WMP10, but not Pkay/Pause & Stop. Did you have any luck making them work?
TDX
tdx said:
Hi there, I read your thread with a lot of interest cause i have the same problems as you. I purchased the BT450Rx too and had them paired with a Prophet, and I'm the same problems. Actualy, FF/REw works for me in WMP10, but not Pkay/Pause & Stop. Did you have any luck making them work?
TDX
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I'd actually resolved some issues earlier, wth the exception that I was using TCPMP player instead of WMP and still could not answer the phone while listening to the music.
I was able to use all buttons but on some MP3 files, very misteriously they wouldn't work.
Unfortunately my phone got hardreset because of a deep freeze I coudn't take it out from, so I'm gonna need to reinstall BT again and tweak it again to make headphones work.
I actually love them, and have been using them most of the time, about 4 hours every weekday just for music and audiobooks, despite they suck as a phone headset
Anybody using the SE HBH-DS970 bluetooth headset with the Hermes and if so what is your experience?
Thanks
i use that one waht is your wonder?
I wanted to know if everything works fine and if you are happy with the experience (sound quality, responsiveness, etc.).
I tried it briefly at a store and everything seemed to work except when I received a call I could not hear the person talking. It may just be that I needed to do a soft reset but if I know it is working with the Tytn for someone else I will buy it.
Thanks!
No Good.
1. Sound Quality is very poor even with the A2DP hack. Far from my M600i. It's much better with the original usb headset. so I guess maybe Sony Ericsson has a different A2DP encoding implement or have some tricks on the media player?
2. Only the Call Key and Volume keys work. I don't know if there any PPC music player support DS970's music keys.
1. After registry twiks the sound quality is super.. seems even better than native usb headset.. Only one problem I couldn't solve so far.. it is skipping every 40-50 sec. I am using now original rom from o2 germany. I am going to try imate rom or at least new radio rom. Let see, if it helps
2. All keys are working with native Windows Media Player.
I am using it with PocketPlayer. Works fine with every button. Sound quality is super after the hack. But I got the same problem as SWayf, music got skippy every while...
Multipoint Function with PC Headset profile?
Has anyone tried to pair this headset with a Hermes and simultaneously with a PC that supports the bluetooth headset profile so that it is possible to switch from VoIP (eg Skype) and the mobile phone easily?
Following on my previous post, I now have the headset in hand and although I can connect to my PC and phone simultaneously using the multipoint functionality, the PC connection is only for music playback, ie the microphone is disabled, so I cannot use the headset for VoIP calls. The Bluetooth Service Class is listed as "Audio Sink" rather than "Headset". I don't suppose anyone knows of a way to activate the microphone in this mode?
SWayf said:
1. After registry twiks the sound quality is super.. seems even better than native usb headset.. QUOTE]
wud u please tell that what exactly u did, caz i m new at ppc's
thx
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Really regret buying it.. Tried the A2DP tweak with the Hermes Tweaker but no luck. Better soundquality but sound keeps skipping every 30-40 seconds, useless for listening to music... I would got nuts having to listen to those skips that often..
Anyone found any tweak to get rid of the skipping problem?
Buttons works fine for controlling Tytn audio quality is ok and I love the looks of it, if I just could get rid of that skipping..
How sick is this! I found this tip on another forum.
Try installing this taskmanager, start wmp and then the task manager, close any apps you don't need to use and then set it to monitor system load.
http://www.iaccarino.de/silvio/ppcstuff.htm
As long as it's running NO SKIPPING so far, have been listening to three full songs so far....
Which of you gurus can figure this one out??? So it must be possible to fix the problem by emulating what this software does??
Any updates on this?
Considering buying one, but wont if there's no fix to the skipping
I've just bought one of these headsets. God, the sound is atrocious. Can someone please fill me in on the hack that was mentioned earlier? I've got the Fit4cat ap on my Hermes but the sound is still rubbish even after adjusting the the "improve BT A2DP sound quality" setting to "excellent". Is this the hack that was referred to earlier or is there another I am not aware of??? Please, can anyone help with this. I feel I have wasted a serious amount of cash on this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284974
This is what you need to read/download.
Hi!
Got hermes and ds970 to work (almost) perfectly
I did this, step by step:
-Hard reset hermes (got o2 xda trion with latest htc wwe rom 1.35 radio 1.18)
-installed ms voice command 1.6
-installed beta version from jetware and their hermes fix
(all files can be found here http://www.jetwaremobile.com/beta.htm don't forget to soft-reset after installation of the "code signing certificate")
-installed a2dpfix
-get HTweakC and set a2dp quality to "medium" do not set it any higher, as the sound quality will be better on medium than on e.g. "excellent"
Configure Jetware Software to show CallerID etc...
Working:
-CallerID shows name!! AND number (alternating) everytime
-A2dp quality is quite good (could be better, but definately very usable)
-Voice command quite usable (still rarely switches back to device speaker)
-very stable bluetooth connection
-remote control of windows media player
not working:
-display doesnt show song title, but i guess we'll never get that on a wm5 device...hope i'm wrong.
Wanna thank everyone on the hermes gps thread...keep up the good work!!
so you can stream media player to the headset too as well as controlling VC1.6? Does VC1.6 fire up when pressing headset button?
Hi!
When I'm listening to music, and press the headset button:
-Mediaplayer goes on pause
-after 2-3 seconds I hear the voice command ding-sound and can say my command. Then hear the lady from microsoft ;-) respond (on long responses the sound sometimes switches back to the device speaker such as when the lady asks me what number-entry to dial and there are 5 numbers in the contact.)
-then switches back to playing mediaplayer for about 2 seconds until the phone initiates the call and then pauses mediaplayer again and switches the headset to the call.
-after the call sound again goes to a2dp and the song resumes playing.
Hope it stays that way...I'll be very very carefull what programs I install.
programs I got installed at this point are:
spb diary
prssreader
navigon mobile navigator 5
google maps (the new not java one)
wakeitup
pocketstreets 2005
tcpmp
clearvue pdf
spb gprs monitor
totalcommander
+the ones mentioned in my post above
(all programs, if not mentioned otherwise, are the latest versions)
oh BTW I tried setting a2dp quality to "low". I can't hear the difference to "medium" and think it will be less stress on the cpu.
what does not work, is also that the announciation of new messages from voice command 1.6 when set to "announce only over bluetooth" still come out of the device speaker.
Hope it works for you, too.
excellent. i'll try these settings. thanks for detailed message
got myself a ds970 and followed your instructions Brevi. music streams brilliantly but i can't transfer calls to the headset,make calls from the headset nor can i get VC1.6 to fire up when i press the headset button. if i start VC1.6 on phone, then i can say command on the headset and that works.
Do you install the JetDial app?
What settings did you configure in the Jetware settings?
any ideas?
i have the "new" btagext.dll which fixed VC1.5 and mono headset - do you think that's the issue?
Update: Aha, i uninstalled the JetDial app (stupid or what) and now everything works except starting VC1.6 using the headset button. i suspect, JetDial has left some reg keys that need removing. No idea what though
Hi! Yeah, you probably need to do a hard-reset to get a clean install of all the little "helpers". I'm confident it will work then.
Tell me if you get the "play reminders only over bluetooth handsfree" option in vc1.6 to work maybe with the btagext.dll. I'm away from my main computer for a couple of days and unfortunately can't mess with my phone till I get back.
hi guys,
I have number of problems using vario 2 and moto ht820.
1- the headset refuses to work or skips while i am trying to listen to streams..it would initially skip then lose bond..
2- the headset would skip when i am using my wifi
3- vario will hang or its keys wont work when i take a call while listening to music..requires reset...
4- Pairing requires 2-3 attempts
5- Vario 2 wont handle music on headset when other applications are used
6- The response time of button command over Vario is a bit slow and sometimes doesnt respond at all...
I have already flased my ht820 with the patch provided on this site...
i have been testing the two for 2 days and i came up with the conclusion that blueetooth headset is OK when it comes to listening music (nothing like good headphones as the quality lacks and it doesnt support much base)
answering phone calls is awesome and crystal clear...
i have also ordered the usb to 3.5 stereo jack converter..if anyone is looking for that the link is as under
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/12034.htm
So does anyone have solutions to above problems???
thanks
aSh