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All,
i've tried several Roms in the last few months, and they all have their advantages and disadvantages. Each one has some nice applications and functions, which others do not have.
It's all fun to play with....but, with a risk: problems.
Unfortunately, my Prophet is also the one i must use on a daily basis for business use, so really must minimize the risk, i.e. freezes, lock ups, hard resets, etc.
Now the question might be a bit unfair, because we all have fun playing with the various ROMs, but, which WM6 is the safest ROM?
I mean, which does not have the following problems
Regular Freezes (occassionally is ok, but not regularly)
Hard resets (deadly)
Bluetooth not working
WLAN not working
Charging not working from USB or car or etc.
etc.
Again, don't misunderstand me: i have as much fun playing with the various ROMs as anyone, but the problem's mentioned above are starting to really bother me.
So, in the absence of someone telling me i must go back to WM5 (not!), which is the most robust WM6 rom?
thanks.
tjohnso1 said:
All,
i've tried several Roms in the last few months, and they all have their advantages and disadvantages. Each one has some nice applications and functions, which others do not have.
It's all fun to play with....but, with a risk: problems.
Unfortunately, my Prophet is also the one i must use on a daily basis for business use, so really must minimize the risk, i.e. freezes, lock ups, hard resets, etc.
Now the question might be a bit unfair, because we all have fun playing with the various ROMs, but, which WM6 is the safest ROM?
I mean, which does not have the following problems
Regular Freezes (occassionally is ok, but not regularly)
Hard resets (deadly)
Bluetooth not working
WLAN not working
Charging not working from USB or car or etc.
etc.
Again, don't misunderstand me: i have as much fun playing with the various ROMs as anyone, but the problem's mentioned above are starting to really bother me.
So, in the absence of someone telling me i must go back to WM5 (not!), which is the most robust WM6 rom?
thanks.
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Your prophet is a QTEKS200?
It is a Neo (O2)
I think the best thing for you is to use WM5 since there are too many known issues with WM6 on the prophet. the most stable ROM I've personally ever used was the shipped ROM from the manufacturer. Otherwise, you should have a good idea of what wm6 rom works for you since you've already tried them all.
I agree with Yellow. If you have to depend on your device for bussiness purposes, don't fool around. If your budget can carry it, find yourself an other for fun!
well, to be fair he only said he'd tried several, not all of them...
I agree with you, though, people should stick with WM5 for now if you/your work depends upon reliable features and rock-solid stability...Having said that, IMO the later WM6's are getting pretty good, general consensus seems to be pdaviet atm although i found fantastic mobiz to be pretty stable too.
I'm also hearing good things about Gullum's efforts...
to be honest I doubt there will ever be a fully bug-free+stable WM6, but then what do I know?*
*answer=not much but I'm learning (thanks to this forum! Cheers everyone! )
i also got the o2 neo, and there are no problems with the newest WM6 RomZ witz freezing or WLAN or whatever. I suggest u try the newest touch releases 4.0.0.6 . if it dosnt fit your needs just flash back to original o2 release u can find on the o2 homepage. greetz vince^^
spaxxilein said:
just flash back to original o2 release u can find on the o2 homepage. ^^
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Just wondering if O2 has release an official english version of WM6 somewhere?
I am using my s200 for business to. But as the autor said is funny to play with our gadget. I am using now CrystalV4(personal).I will not say is the best rom here but is the best for my needs. Fast,not many programs inside(The programs are good) but i dont need them. I just want office-some util for maintance-Gps softare & some games.Cube also is great but after sometime it get boring.
So +1 CrystalV4
tjohnso1 said:
All,
So, in the absence of someone telling me i must go back to WM5 (not!), which is the most robust WM6 rom?
thanks.
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I use my XDA Neo for work related purposes, too. I use Crystal V4 for about 3 or 4 days now and I have had no problems at all. And it is a very fast and responsive release, too. So this might be worth a try.
My take
I have tried several and found gullm's Touch VIII to be the best allround. It hasn't locked up and battery doesn't drain away. Everything I use seems to work fine.
Touch IX is absolutedly problem free here.
Some beauty-glitches, but works, and is pretty darn stable. Just avoid soft-resetting too much (bootscreenlockup, i believe every wm6 has that now and then). I have a full spritebackup on my SD, so when things do go wrong, hard reset, sprite, and in 5 minutes full running again. Now, I don't reset anymore. And, in 3 weeks, I did not HAVE to reset either ... It happens about 1 resets out of 10.
Riel said:
Touch IX is absolutedly problem free here.
Some beauty-glitches, but works, and is pretty darn stable. Just avoid soft-resetting too much (bootscreenlockup, i believe every wm6 has that now and then). I have a full spritebackup on my SD, so when things do go wrong, hard reset, sprite, and in 5 minutes full running again. Now, I don't reset anymore. And, in 3 weeks, I did not HAVE to reset either ... It happens about 1 resets out of 10.
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Install a safe boot mode and you'll be able to bypass bootscreenlockup and avoid hardreset
Personally, i prefer Mysterious, its been so nice on my o2 neo. no hangup, no freezing, moreover its fast and stable.
but its totaly depends on your way of using prophet.
WM 5 is the safest but I have WM6 touch VIII and its been a few months with very rare soft resets. I do notice that you may also think it has to do with the rom but it really is the radio rom that is causing the freezes. My main rare issue is I cannot hang up the phone when it is linked to my car's bluetooth. This happens once a month.
Mysterious on O2 Neo- GREAT!
I use Mysterious on an O2 Neo with only ONE annoying problem - battery drain! The advantages far outweigh the disadvantages. Soon the Polaris (P3650) is coming to O2 Germany (called Orbit II) - and I will switch! Until then, my trusted Neo will bet there!
Cheers -
i was using touch 8 for a while then contemplated on whether to upgrade to touch 9, but after following the thread, opted for crystal v4.
v4 is running quite fast & stable at the moment. no hangups or anything.
haven;t tried mysterious or pdaviet at all, so can't really comment on them.
Most stable ROM
Personally i found that Prophet Touch IX is the most stable ROM i am using the same PDA as yours O2 XDA Neo German ROM downgraded to Aku2.2 and then flashed Prophet Touch IX and the device is working fine so far no bugs i have encountered (( i have been using the ROM for about 1 week now )) .
I've stuck with Touch VIII and had less problems with it than IX. Generally it's very, very good.
I prefer Crystal V4 with 4MB pagepool. Runnin SPB PocketPlus 4, HTC Cube, HTC Home, QuickMenu, S2U2, BatteryStatus, Lexisgoo/PocketMusic/SPB Insight/SPB Time/SPB Diary - all integrated into PocketPlus
And stil have 24.5MB of free RAM after loading them all up after a soft reset (and then closing all, ofcourse)
I haven't restarted my fon for 4 days now. And now hav 18.6MB after using IE, ActiveSync and many other pgms.
Its a solid ROM too... thanks to HMA for keeping it clean so that i could fill up wat ever I want
maybe a stupid question, but what cooked ROM is the best out there so far. pls make your own opinion.
/Christoffer
lots of opinions on this question...
That is like asking which soccer/football team is the best.
mixmaven said:
That is like asking which soccer/football team is the best.
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FC JUVENTUS !!!!!
i know, but it can be an interesting discussion
I am curently using ROMeOS 1.05 and i've seen a huge difference on my TP. I know that it was fast enough with the stock ROM, but TF3D gained considerably more scrolling speed and icons on Programs Tab appear so much faster know...
im using ROMeOS 1.05 to. it is a little bit faster but havent noticed so very much difference. but it is faster all right. and i havent found any bugs yet either. seems really good.
anyone using DCS-TouchPro-v14 and think its better than ROMeOS² v1.05.
The DCS rom is MUCH less buggy. With the stock rom or with the DCS rom I have never had a lockup in almost 3 weeks. With the ROMeOS rom I had several lockups with 2 different versions.
Stability was my main issue with that ROM
with lockups u mean that it hangs right. that havent happened with mu RomeOS. but maybe DCS is better.
If you DON'T use TF3D, is it nonetheless worthwhile installing a custom ROM, performance wise?
If you don't use manila... i suggest installing swtos light ROM.
athanaso77 said:
If you don't use manila... i suggest installing swtos light ROM.
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I haven't tried the light rom mentioned here but I would tend to agree. Although it is pretty cool when you first get the device I have found that TF3D really slows down the device and is not very configurable .. that said, a rom with TF3D not "pre installed" would be a great idea!
sluden said:
with lockups u mean that it hangs right. that havent happened with mu RomeOS. but maybe DCS is better.
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Yes - it hung up and I had to soft reset. Maybe just be coincidental but I had it happen several times so my patience didn't last. Also I couldn't get SecondToday to work properly and since I already had been using it on my other ROM I thougth it must be the ROM itself
The Panosha ROM turns out to be my favourite, after testing every ROM ever released here. I get faster TomTom satelite lock on, and most of the times my phone network is connected even before 3D Touchflow is fully started.
This is my personal experience
Before this thread going to be locked, let me show u the path to the best ever Raphael ROM in earth for now. Get it here & pls share it
Did not see any COOKED ROMs there
All were cooked by HTC/Carrier staff
Right now I'm happy with the Stock rom with a few performance tweaks. I am more or less waiting until someone makes a custom rom that improves GPS lag and reception strength issues. Thats probably not going to happen until a new improved radio gets released.
i Love ROMeOS, its the best
Is anyone actually working on a WM 6.1 ROM with a post-21000 Build Number for ATOM Life ?
I'd really like to be able to use the Rhodium Menu Enhancements (FingerMenu is just not the same) but I find myself unable to cook a ROM on my own.
I tried to register an account on PDAVIET where the ROM comes from i'm using right now, but to no avail as I can't read Vietnamese and Google Translator somehow can't translate it...
someone close this please, no one is interested in this Thread anyway... hope y'all are happy with your WM 6.5 Betas...
jadephyre said:
someone close this please, no one is interested in this Thread anyway... hope y'all are happy with your WM 6.5 Betas...
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Yes of course almost all of us are now on 6.5 and really happy. Latest 6.5 roms 21728 Lite and 21812 Lite are running on our device better than 6.1. More stable and faster and errorfree. Why dont you try 21812 Lite just released and experience for yourself. I am sure you wont be coming back to 6.1. By the way my device is Atom Life. But there are variations of roms for other devices too...
Dont worry for word "BETA", currently all are tested ok and working well.... Beta in these forum, does not mean they are in developement. They are only ported from latest releases and customized with software bundle. Rest OS is basic and work well for Atom Life or comet you have. See my signature down there, all listed roms are stable and fast and tested ok. Rest I have not mentioned.
No need to reply.... bye
WM 6.5 is a Battery-drainer... also, I would need a ROM where Manila 2D runs, as I tried Titanium... and hated it.
jadephyre said:
WM 6.5 is a Battery-drainer... also, I would need a ROM where Manila 2D runs, as I tried Titanium... and hated it.
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wm6.5 WAS a battery drainer, but not now. i am using 21812 lite with longer battery time, say 3 days standby and 2 days with phone use. better than 6.0 or 6.1. seems you do not read the post carefully. LITE version does not have titanium and we are using M2D without any problem with moe memory free and longer battery time. Now dont comment without trying it. read my signature too..
Alright, I tried it, and went back to WM6.1 as WM6.5 was constantly taking up 80 Percent of the Phone's Resources (RAM) with Manila2D active.
It only takes around 56 Percent of it when using WM6.1.
I'm not going to make the switch to WM6.5 as it seems.
And my next Phone is going to be an Android Phone... i'm sick of resistive Touchscreens, i want capacitive ones.
jadephyre would you mind sharing what rom you are currently using. I am trying to find a rom that doesnt wolf down my battery.
indiacam: I really dont know how you are geting very good battery life.
Im using the same rom as you yet as jadephyre said ram usage is very hard.
Interface is very nice though
i'm using ATOM LIFE - PDAVIET ROM WM6.1 (Core 20931) by TranMinhMan
fuligin said:
jadephyre would you mind sharing what rom you are currently using. I am trying to find a rom that doesnt wolf down my battery.
indiacam: I really dont know how you are geting very good battery life.
Im using the same rom as you yet as jadephyre said ram usage is very hard.
Interface is very nice though
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Specifically two reasons
1) My battery is XP-09 Lithium Polymer and not Li-ION and distributed with most PDAs. Its really a good battery O2 have distributed in India. Working like new since past 17 months.
2) And yes there are some additional memory setup required to be done in Registry Settings with the help of ACT. Click here for more information http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4081622#post4081622
@indiacam
I got the same powerpack, but what is of more interest for me is how to preserve RAM...
Thanks fellas,
I got the same battery pack also!
My battery performance is really horbile even with your settings Indiacam.
As for Ram, im using about 63% on 6.5 lite by uninstalling some things like the htc album. I shall try to flash again using both
Hi!
I still have the stock-ROM on my TouchPro. There is a ROM-Update on the
HTC-website from the 2009-08-30. Is it already WM6.5 or just a different
update? If, what is the favorised custom ROM?
actual ROM:
ROM-Version: 1.90.407.4 GER
ROM-Date: 08/23/08
modem: 1.02.25.19
protocoll: 52.33.25.17U
Any help, please? :}
To be honest, I've tried in the last year almost all ROM's posted in this Raphael Forum.
My advise, if you need and use the PDA for normal business use stick with the Stock ROM, or upgrade to the latest 'official' posted in XDA-Wiki. If you don't mind your phone crashing or failing then try and 'play' with the ROM's available.
You and Chefs don't get me wrong, but the 6.5 and especially the Sense versions are far to unstable, though it shows what could be possible on these PDA's.
That doesn't sound really promising... hm.
The custom ROMs for the HTC TyTN did work good. Pity.
I'm curious for the 6.5-GUI, though.
At the moment I'm using the Iphone more often since I got
"tethering" working without the need of paying for it and
specially because the TouchPro-headset broke... Not
really a cheap replacement for it. The China-plagiats
suck... sound like crap.
personally the custom roms have worked great for me and are in general faster than the stock rom. unless u go sense or manila 2.5 whatever u want to call it, they are pretty stable too.
read the instructions on how to load the rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448008
only thing i dont like about the guide, is the hard reset at stylus settings, because that prevents the rom from loading its software if it needs any. i just let it load whatever it wants.
and then try out TAEL
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=561158
or
Energy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=536751
both of these are my personal favorites and run like a charm. with a stock rom, the touch pro is a waste of hardware.
k.electron said:
personally the custom roms have worked great for me and are in general faster than the stock rom. unless u go sense or manila 2.5 whatever u want to call it, they are pretty stable too.
read the instructions on how to load the rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448008
only thing i dont like about the guide, is the hard reset at stylus settings, because that prevents the rom from loading its software if it needs any. i just let it load whatever it wants.
and then try out TAEL
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=561158
or
Energy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=536751
both of these are my personal favorites and run like a charm. with a stock rom, the touch pro is a waste of hardware.
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I agree. The best thing you can do is to try a 6.5 21864 build. Those are stable and energyRoms are fast.
I use my phone for business. I have been using energy ROM's right from the time i got my touch pro.
i started with the roms from monx, after he stopped for a while, i used energyrom for a long time, and tried some other, but always came back to energy.
Well monx posted a couple of weeks ago a new 6.5 rom and i am using that rom, i always liked his roms.
and there is no official htc WM6.5 rom for the touch pro
just try some for yourself is my advice
I started off with RRE's ROMs but moved to Energy ROM's and have been very happy with both. If you stick to the more stable ones vs the beta ROMs then you'll be fine. I'm still running an Energy ROM from August but am finally gonna upgrade to the latest one.
6.5 21864 build. Those are stable and energyRoms are fast.
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I second this and use my phone for business and as GPS device when I'm on the road.
Delphi said:
Hi!
I still have the stock-ROM on my TouchPro. There is a ROM-Update on the
HTC-website from the 2009-08-30. Is it already WM6.5 or just a different
update? If, what is the favorised custom ROM?
actual ROM:
ROM-Version: 1.90.407.4 GER
ROM-Date: 08/23/08
modem: 1.02.25.19
protocoll: 52.33.25.17U
Any help, please? :}
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You should try the Stock ROM update on HTC ( and for the question NO OFFICIAL HTC TOUCH PRO updates have 6.5 they are all 6.1 )
You can flash the TAEL or the ENERGY or the CHROME or the EXQUISITE ROMs they are all very popular and mostly good.
You should just try one of them it just takes 15 to flash a ROM.
Read and follow the steps very carefully.
And remember you can always flash back to HTC STOCKs.
Usually the one on HTC site are more latest than the ones on WIKI.
Enjoy !
But you should have posted this in Raphael Questions and Answers thread not a new thread.
Next time be careful.
I went around flashing roms myself, always landed back on the latest stock rom because it works. I'll list the advantages and disadvantages I stumbled upon from my experiences.
Stock Rom
Advantages
- You know it will work right (for the most part).
- Peace of mind with the ROM
- Still customizable (I was able to install Manila 2.1 and it works very smoothly, the only problem I had was with Tachi dialer, which didn't work 100% on any rom I tried it on either (some bugs, like when I dialed a number it never showed the correct number on the screen, but it did dial the right contact number)).
Disadvantages
- You miss out on a lot of new things like, Manila 2.5, Ezinput 2, etc.
- Lack of support for 6.1 on XDA these days. I'm still having trouble finding 6.1 themes and Manila themes on here. Seems that has died down with the flood of Manila 2.1.
- It's still 6.1.
Cooked Roms
Advantages
- You get all the newest things; WinMo 6.5 + it's uh... more touch friendliness, Manila 2.5, etc.
- Tons of support on XDA these days.
Disadvantages
- Many bugs. Yes it they do work for the most part, but look at any cooked rom thread, and see how many people are posting problems, and look at how many updates are down to fix problems. Which brings me to my next point....
- You get into a flashing frenzy. You end up flashing more than using the roms you flash because of updates, and different rom offers.
- You're never sure what the experience is going to be on your phone till you try, so no real piece of mind. Some roms take a few days to really show that it might not be compatible with you, then you'll end up spending a ton of time finding another rom to try out.
- Never satisfied (ties in with flashing frenzy).
That's how it was for me. I toyed around with the stock Fuze rom, got it working to a point where I like it very much. I got Manila all nice using custimizer and some other mods. But really, I'm always tempted to flash to try out things like 2.5, because I want that Twitter Tab, or I want GPS weather of 2.1 (oh how I wish Tachi dialer just worked perfectly). But in the end I always go back to using the stock rom, because it just works well.
SDreamer said:
I went around flashing roms myself, always landed back on the latest stock rom because it works. I'll list the advantages and disadvantages I stumbled upon from my experiences.
Stock Rom
Advantages
- You know it will work right (for the most part).
- Peace of mind with the ROM
- Still customizable (I was able to install Manila 2.1 and it works very smoothly, the only problem I had was with Tachi dialer, which didn't work 100% on any rom I tried it on either (some bugs, like when I dialed a number it never showed the correct number on the screen, but it did dial the right contact number)).
Disadvantages
- You miss out on a lot of new things like, Manila 2.5, Ezinput 2, etc.
- Lack of support for 6.1 on XDA these days. I'm still having trouble finding 6.1 themes and Manila themes on here. Seems that has died down with the flood of Manila 2.1.
- It's still 6.1.
Cooked Roms
Advantages
- You get all the newest things; WinMo 6.5 + it's uh... more touch friendliness, Manila 2.5, etc.
- Tons of support on XDA these days.
Disadvantages
- Many bugs. Yes it they do work for the most part, but look at any cooked rom thread, and see how many people are posting problems, and look at how many updates are down to fix problems. Which brings me to my next point....
- You get into a flashing frenzy. You end up flashing more than using the roms you flash because of updates, and different rom offers.
- You're never sure what the experience is going to be on your phone till you try, so no real piece of mind. Some roms take a few days to really show that it might not be compatible with you, then you'll end up spending a ton of time finding another rom to try out.
- Never satisfied (ties in with flashing frenzy).
That's how it was for me. I toyed around with the stock Fuze rom, got it working to a point where I like it very much. I got Manila all nice using custimizer and some other mods. But really, I'm always tempted to flash to try out things like 2.5, because I want that Twitter Tab, or I want GPS weather of 2.1 (oh how I wish Tachi dialer just worked perfectly). But in the end I always go back to using the stock rom, because it just works well.
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Just a correction
The manila 2.1 or 2.5 DO NOT use GPS to find out weather on the current loaction they use location service which tracks down the area were the tower is located from where your phone is getting signals.
And PLEASE DO NOT say that all Custom ROMs have many bugs You have to chose the right build the right developer and the right ammount of things you do with it.
I can point out so many bugs present in stock ROM and the lack of things you can do.
And we all know that installing CABs for MODs and TWEAKS is nothing close to the performance they give when baked into the ROM.
They eat so much more CPU and Memory when installed separately !
Anyways OP its your choice but you should give it a try atleast
I require my phone for work and have found many of the cooked ROMs far MORE stable than the stock ones. The t-mobile (uk) stock ROM was awful. And I mean truly awful !!!
I use NRG ROMS. Ive not risked the Manilla 2.5 versions as yet (which NRG himself describes as beta !) but his other WM 6.5 are excellent.
I also use SPB mobile shell 3.5 which i think is great. sits over WM 6.5 very nicely and is fully customisable - especially with MSkips extras.
Just to reiterate what some of the other posters have said - the cooks here do a great deal of hard work - if you pick a ROM thats close to the cutting edge you may get bugs (and the chefs will warn you that) - but if you pick some of the more tried and tested branches the cooks have created some ROMs that are extremely stable !
I see.
Is there any (easy) way to make those ROMs german?
Comments on stock ROM and add languages:
Have to agree that most stock ROMs are sluggish and terrible. Even back at the Kaiser days none of the ATT ROMs was able to satisfy me.
Before you select a custom ROM R E A D what people say and what issues they have! Most issues are very specific and may not affect you at all.
Furthermore, for now, I would stay away from 6.5.1 and 6.5.3 ROMs (with the Windows buttons at the bottom). They are kinda beta and the VGA port of Manila 2.5 isn't perfect or good enough for daily use in my opinion. There are stable 6.5 ROMS with Manila 2.1 which can be used and IMHO all of them are faster and more stable as the stock or branded ROMS (I mean HTC or for example ATT modified ROMS).
As far as other languages go, Monx cooked some custom ROMS in the past in Dutch and German though his current ROMS are Manila 2.5 and new WinMo based (see my note above) and nothing for a ROM novice.
Without judgement NRG's 6.5 and Aruppenthals are a good start into custom ROMs, just look for WinMo 6.5 and Manila 2.1 versions.
Did one actually every try to set regional to i.e. German and see what happens? Look around for language packs as well.
List of ROMS I would suggest:
NRG "Photon" but only the 21864 built
Aruppenthals (though based on the newer WinMo version)
Note:
These are my PERSONAL suggestions and do not do any positive or negative justice to ANY other chef out there but in my PERSONAL opinion these are the easiest to handle for a new "flasher".
Hi all,
I am a techy at a large secondary school in the UK. In my wisdom I organised the rollout of 7 XDA Serra devices (O2 branded Raphael) to members of senior staff early this year. Now.... I have had no end of moaning about the appalling ROM O2 supplied, I have changed the radio version and disabled 3G to get 3 days+ from battery, where it was previously 1 day max, added slide-to-unlock and slide to answer.
However the handsets are still frankly rubbish. Crashing and freezing, especially when you try to use them as - god forbid - a phone.
I have two choices -
either find a really good stable and useable ROM (which I hope you can help with!) -Getting them all in for upgrade is the highest level of tedium, so if this is going to happen its going to be a one-shot thing. Gotta get it right first time. These people are middle-aged school workers so dont care about the bling, its gotta be easy to use.
or (the hard way) say they are "unfit for purpose" and try and send them back to O2 for something else.As much as I love fighting the big boys, I really cant be bothered. If they are going to be swapped theres only one handset the senior team would accept. iPhone. Yuk. (IMHO).
So - do you think I'm onto a loser to begin with? is this handset just a dog? It was so hyped at launch I didnt think I could go wrong.
or is it just the ROM? If just the ROM then what's the best ROM around that will tick all the right boxes?
In the meantime I'm off to play with my new HD2....
Thanks in advance.
if you want a simple rom, with smooth operation and good features, try TAEL standard edition. I can vouch for it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=561158
o2 serra
The bad news....The rom supplied with the Serra is a dog (as you have probably learnt). Has problems 'sleeping' at night, is graphically horrible & freezes whenever challenged!
The good news... The device is a winner, all problems are software related, you have some re flashing to do & there are plenty to advise on simple stable rom's better than me.
Clearly with multiple devices & reflashing, you need to be aware of voiding your warranty. Dropped mine four foot onto slate floor & the screen started acting badly.... A freezer might come in handy.....Enjoying NRGZ Rom on a replaced device
Yeah I had figured the Serra ROM is a dog.Thanks for confirming that to me tho!
Your suggestion the hardware is a winner has given me some hope, so thanks.
I will test out the TAEL ROM and see how it fares.
In fact I think I was at one point using the TAEL ROM myself. (I couldnt stand the O2 ROM more than about a week)
If it passes my in-house testing (giving it to my boss for a bit - he's impartial) then I may try the rollout. See if I can fend off the iPhone wanters and their pitchforks.
Any other suggestions for ROMS welcome of course.......
cjwhite said:
... See if I can fend off the iPhone wanters and their pitchforks...
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iPhone, Blackberry, Nokia, Palm Pre! even!...
Usually, only the win32 centric IT type like the WinMo. You should have titled your post "Best device for simple folks"
Who's paying for that Leo?
Your prob right, but I got these at the start of this year, when the iPhone (IIRC) only just got exchange sync, and the pre was a distant dream. Plus half of the staff already had Windows PDA's. So I was thinking it would soften the learning curve.
You know what its like now - people act like children over bloody iPhones. I'm not an Apple hater but its horses for courses, iPhones and Macs fine as a choice for home users but not a business tool. Dont get me started on the iPod touch being described by apple as a "handheld learning device" to flog it to education! grrrrr.
And the Leo? I fought for two of them in place of two serras that developed faults cos there was no equivalent replacement.
Hmm, if you ask me, the best ROM that just works is EnergyROM (the most current one is Phoenix 2). From my experience, EnergyROM is very fast, very stable, and tends to be streamlined. In my opinion, this is probably the best ROM for simplicity.
Mind you, I'm not knocking Tael ROM. I tried the version with Sense 2.5 recently and I'm in love. It is shockingly fast and stable; much more so than any other ROMs with Sense 2.5 that I tried.
Simple ROM
If i were you id use Tael's rom... i used Energy ROM for about 7-8 months because it was eye candy and had a lot of apps i needed... its the best looking and most loaded ROM there is in this forum... but i made the switch because the battery didn last very long and i started gettin a lot of bugs after like a month of use... don know how it happened... Energy ROM is more for personal use and for showing off... (Dont get me wrong... i appreciate all the work NRGZ does and all the time he puts into his wonderful ROM)
I switched to Tael's ROM about like a month ago and it is the most stable ROM there is... during this whole month i didn have one problem with it. the ROM has only the most basic and useful applications... It also gives me a battery life of about 3 days on normal texting, bluetooth for like 5-6 hrs a day, phone usage of about 2 hrs of talk everyday and 3G on at all times! if i probably turn of the 3G, auto updates of some program, and stop using bluetooth... i would get atleast 4 days out of it! If u want a reliable ROM with almost all the functions of the phone, Tael's ROM is the best!
OK, so what about the best simple ROM for tilt, or both tilt and fuze?
I just picked up a Tilt and Fuze and would greatly appreciate advice as which best "simple" (=stable, easy install) ROM would be for each, please? And ideally, if there is a ROM which would cover both? (I'm on t-mo)
many thanks
Tilt, unlocked to T-mo
Fuze, unlocked to T-mo
sagarc88 said:
If i were you id use Tael's rom...
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Er, EnergyROM is the most loaded ROM? I think you're mistaken. That would probably be Chrome ROM (which even the author calls 'the Cadillac' of ROMs).
Your claims about battery life confuses me even more. I put my Fuze (with EnergyROM at the time) through a stress test and it lasted roughly 6-8 hours with constant Youtube, video playback, and 3G radio. I have not done the same for Tael ROM, but judging from usage, it would lastly roughly the same amount.
I'm not saying you were lying about your experience regarding EnergyROM, but I just wanted to put in that ER is definitely not as bad as you described.
i'm liking taels rom right now, it seems to be faster than the energy rom as i'm getting less hang ups while scrolling etc. battery lif is about two days with tael and about the same with energy, sending/receiving 300 txts a day and maybe a couple of phone calls...
I'm torn on this thread ...
... part of me feels it should remain open to allow the OP to obtain the information required to make an informed decision for his faculty users.
... and part of me feels it should be closed as these types of thread end up with posts full of emotionally charged opinions about chefs and their roms.
@cjwhite:
If the thread remains on topic and devoid of emotionally charged opnions, I'll leave it open. Once you have obtained all of the information required, please issue a request to have this thread closed.
I'd recommend that you stay away from any roms using the new office 2010. It's beta, and expires in 5-6 months. Since the phones aren't going to be updated frequently (hopefully never, I'm sure), you don't want any part of time-bombs. You might consider just flashing a stock HTC rom.
Farmer Ted said:
I'd recommend that you stay away from any roms using the new office 2010. It's beta, and expires in 5-6 months. Since the phones aren't going to be updated frequently (hopefully never, I'm sure), you don't want any part of time-bombs. You might consider just flashing a stock HTC rom.
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I agree. Just grab this ROM: http://www.htc.com/www/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=140&cat=2&dl_id=501 and you won't regret - it's bug-free, stable, fast enough.
Alternately, you can try shep's ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=497699, but not the new version, because it's buggy. I recommend the "old" ROM (10. august), I used it for a month without problems, then I reverted to HTC latest primarily because I don't like 6.5 Start Menu.
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Er, EnergyROM is the most loaded ROM? I think you're mistaken. That would probably be Chrome ROM (which even the author calls 'the Cadillac' of ROMs).
Your claims about battery life confuses me even more. I put my Fuze (with EnergyROM at the time) through a stress test and it lasted roughly 6-8 hours with constant Youtube, video playback, and 3G radio. I have not done the same for Tael ROM, but judging from usage, it would lastly roughly the same amount.
I'm not saying you were lying about your experience regarding EnergyROM, but I just wanted to put in that ER is definitely not as bad as you described.
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I'm a Chrome ROM lover, they are as loaded as NRGZ ROM.
Performance they both have their pros and cons.
For the ROM your looking i would suggest nothing but Timolol's ROM.
They are so fast and So basic.
As basic as stock with no extra apps.
They don't have a manila version hece only the simple titanium to use.
They are on a old build which is very stable.
Though i would never use such a bland ROm but for the people for whom you are going to Flash the ROM this is the Best ROM.
Give it a try.
It is really Light !
Timolol's ROM
Even the chef calls it "Stock like ROM"
Hi everyone.
There was a worrying moment where I thought we were going all emotional!
Mind you its the varied opinions that make this place so interesting.
I'm really grateful to all of you for your effort in replying.
I think the bottom line is I need a ROM for "someone who has never been on XDA-Dev".
I'm going to try Tael's latest ROM as I've personally found it solid enough in the past, and the feeling I'm getting from you is that it is pretty well liked.
I do however like the idea of a stock ROM. What would they be missing out on by using the stock HTC ROM? Anything a normal person would miss?
Cheers
Chris
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I do however like the idea of a stock ROM. What would they be missing out on by using the stock HTC ROM? Anything a normal person would miss?
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Nothing really important. On stock ROM there is an older Manila build, that's maybe the most important thing, also cooked ROMs are often loaded with apps. But, stock HTC ROM has one big advantage over all cooked ROMs - absolutely everything is working, and that's not the case with cooked ROMs - there's always something wrong, missing from ROM etc. For example, on most cooked ROMs (OS 6.5) you will find that video call doesn't work, if it works there are some other bugs with the dialer, such as non-working USSD codes or inability to answer calls (not chef's mistake, just dialers ported from other devices do not work 100%). Then there are some other problems - on one ROM MMS ain't working, on the other battery is pathetic, or the phone is very slow and buggy due to the use of Sense (Manila) 2.5 etc. You get the point - if you choose cooked ROM, there will always be something that isn't working, question is - do you (your workers) need those non-working functions.
Well...... I just flashed TAEL standard ROM."launch browser" button not working on internet tab.
@pilgrim011 - Perhaps your right!
cjwhite said:
Well...... I just flashed TAEL standard ROM."launch browser" button not working on internet tab.
@pilgrim011 - Perhaps your right!
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Did you try the timolol's ROM.
Everything is working on that !
You must give it a try.