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hey everyone.. just signed up and wanted to say hi.
i just ordered my new MDA, and should be here in a few days! ive had the SK3 for a month after upgrading from the SK2, and its just not what it used to be. Im looking for something with way more functionality other than being cool. Not to mention a more mature phone.
anyway, i just wanted to see if you guys could help me. seeing as how i dont have the phone yet, i wanted to read as much as i can about hacking it up. im aware that the stock phone (USA Tmobile MDA) rom isnt very well, so i need some pointers on where to start...
ive tried searching already, but theres only so many "newbie" threads i can sift through... basically can someone point me into the right direction of everything i need to get started? it would be most appreciated! i guess which rom, how to update, which apps, where to go... lol, basically everything!
ill obvisouly be reading until the day the phone comes (and charged for 12 hours) so i should be more knowledgeable by the time the phone arrives.. but i really appreiciate any help!
thanks!
Maybe you just should to post which MDA you have orderd. Since the good old MDA I / Wallaby isn´t sold anymore, that´s the wrong part of the forum here....
You should take a look at the right part of the forum.
Stefan
LOL..
im such an idiot. thats what i get for posting at 2am... sorry! i found out it was the HTC Wizard!
Total newb question, but I just got an 8525 and I see all this stuff about "modifying" it. I'm just wondering what is the gain and should I be doing it. I really dont know that much about these types of phones as my only cell service for the last few years has been company provided. Now I gotten my own service contract and selected this phone. It appears that there is a whole lot more available. Similar to when I discoverd "modifying" my TIVO. I was looking into unlockin it so I can use european ISM cards in it, when I travel (I'm in the US), thats how I found all this stuff.
I read some of the stuff in the sticky, but its all greek (for now anyway). Can someone just give me a down and dirty on pros and cons ?
Thanks
kuelblaz said:
Total newb question, but I just got an 8525 and I see all this stuff about "modifying" it. I'm just wondering what is the gain and should I be doing it. I really dont know that much about these types of phones as my only cell service for the last few years has been company provided. Now I gotten my own service contract and selected this phone. It appears that there is a whole lot more available. Similar to when I discoverd "modifying" my TIVO. I was looking into unlockin it so I can use european ISM cards in it, when I travel (I'm in the US), thats how I found all this stuff.
I read some of the stuff in the sticky, but its all greek (for now anyway). Can someone just give me a down and dirty on pros and cons ?
Thanks
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you can start off by reading the wiki...it will answer your questions
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes
after you feel you have matured, then goto this thread and read some more
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=295751
THEN if you have any questions, ask =)
Welcome
But the Forum Rules here are that you have to read the Wiki before posting.
I'm suprised the sytem didn't prevent you from posting.
The benifits are stability, speed, and memory.
The cons are a $500 brick.
Is there any known way to fix a bricked G4?
bricked or dead explain more your problem
Bricked
It was bricked, I had the Bule, Green, Red screen. But I went to http://www.htcamerica.net/support/81...downloads.html and flashed the original Rom. Thanx for trying to help though, it's much appriciated.
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You were just in bootloader screen, it wasn't bricked! Wouldn't hurt if you gave some details.
Jeez . . .
Sorry for being a noob. Is anyone here actually helpful or are all of you just stuck up?
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Sorry for being a noob. Is anyone here actually helpful or are all of you just stuck up?
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i'm a NOOB too but you can't expect to be spoon fed can you? this is THE development site for our devices and the guys here are helpful to a fault..but what would your mechanic say if you towed your car into the garage and said it doesn't work? you just didn't provide the information required to get an answer...not that you needed an answer from the guys here...it's all in the wiki or do a search it's been asked a thousand times. if your asking for help in future i'd suggest your more civil about, "you'll catch more fly's with honey"
Done that
I think the search engine is broken cuz I've searched for information about what I want to learn and it will tell that it's invalid. And I tried to be civil but the guy practically told me that I was an idiot, there's no need for it.
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I think the search engine is broken cuz I've searched for information about what I want to learn and it will tell that it's invalid. And I tried to be civil but the guy practically told me that I was an idiot, there's no need for it.
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Strange . . . I didn't get that impression from the replies you got. As far as your searches saying "invalid", I have no idea exactly what your search criteria was, but you might want to use this in the future.
As far as knownuser's reply, he's right on the money. Noone here "owes" you any thing. It's up to YOU to do the reading to learn what you need to know. Everything you need is either in the Wiki or in the forums' threads. The developers here are developing and they don't have time to respond to questions that have already been asked -- and answered -- a thousand times over. If you're not willing to learn by taking the time to read the information that's already available on here, then you don't belong here in the first place. The developers here don't have time to spoon feed every noob that keeps asking the same question over and over.
Now, if MY response makes you feel like an idiot -- if the shoe fits . . .
OK . . .
One . . . I never said that anyone OWED me ANYTHING. Two . . . if it's a question that YOU or anyone else has previously answered, then why answer it again and get frustrated? JUST DON'T REPLY! WOW! Sounds so hard . . . So I screwed up, sue me . . . >=P
P.S. And NO, you didn't make me feel like an idiot. You just made yourself look like a stuck up jack ass
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One . . . I never said that anyone OWED me ANYTHING. Two . . . if it's a question that YOU or anyone else has previously answered, then why answer it again and get frustrated? JUST DON'T REPLY! WOW! Sounds so hard . . . So I screwed up, sue me . . . >=P
P.S. And NO, you didn't make me feel like an idiot. You just made yourself look like a stuck up jack ass
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There's a reason many members get frustrated when forced to answer the same question on a regular basis. In their/my eyes this indicates a lack of understanding and reading on behalf of the member who posted the question. This is a known problem with many forums.
P.S You would be well advised not to abuse other established members who obviously know more than you do. On the off chance that you do require assistance again in the near future, abusing other members pretty much gurantees you wont receive it.
Understandable
FINALLY! Someone explaining things WITHOUT trying to rip me a new one. I understand where you're coming from, but I did apologize for being ignorant yet people felt the need to unload their repressed anger towards me. I am truly sorry for getting ahead of myself and I do appreciate all of the hard work that all of the senior members have put into making our HTC experience a good one; but that tends to make themselves into arrogant monarchs who become full of themselves. Trust me, I know what it's like to get frustrated, I'm a karate instructor who has to deal with kids from ages 4 and up 5 days a week. And if any parent here is reading, they know how tough dealing with a 4 year old can be. Try dealing with 30 at a time . . . But no matter how much more I know than someone in the martial arts, I NEVER act better than them. It's bad for business. So in closing, Thank you to everyone who has contributed to this board but frankly some of you need to cool down a bit. Thanx Peter Petrelli (love the SN, Heros rocks!) for being the only one to politely tell me what I did was wrong.
Best way to deal with Senior members with tendency to flame newbies (i confess!) is to ask like you're Shrek's ***** cat making those 'feel pity for me' big eyes:
"Can you please kindly tell me..."
"I've searched for hours and haven't had much luck in finding the..."
"I've used the search engine a lot but most of the results don't work. Can anyone point me on the right direction?"
and son on and so forth
cheers
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Sorry for being a noob. Is anyone here actually helpful or are all of you just stuck up?
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I love noobie bricks!!
Ok I get interested reading a thread like this.
Honestly is it not easier to say: I have a phone blah blah, which I tried to blah blah blah, and all I'm getting is blah blah, can someone guide me on what to do or is it dead or not dead? (I think bricked has been abused in this case)
All will easily be explained and someone will help. Details do help! First thing I do, whenever I want to do something is read and read the forum. Thats why I have less posts! ha ha I would have asked alot but frankly all the info (to a certain degree) has been provided
noob mistake from a PC tech, lol...
I very stupidly didn't check to see if a Wizard was a G3 or G4 and flashed the WM5 IPL 1.01 downgrade on it thinking it was a G3 and I was setting up for use with LokiWiz. It tried to boot after the flash, but it froze. Now, it just flickers for a split second when I attempt to power it on. I tried entering bootloader through camera + power, camera + reset, comm + voice + reset, as well as mail + camera + power, and nothing is making it enter bootloader. I'm figuring that in my assumption I made an a** outta myself and finally bricked my first phone, after sucessfully flashing about 20. I read somewhere that you could cut your power cord and tap the live contacts to pins 1 and 5 and unbrick a seriously bricked phone, but can't seem to find the article again. Would someone kindly point me in the right direction? Also, has anyone had any luck with this method?
To enter bootloader you keep 'voice' pressed and poke the reset hole briefly but then again it's nothing that doesn't come in the wiki
One of the things that I tried. I didn't list it though, I'm going nuts with this phone. When I do that it still shows nothing. What I think I did was flash the G3 bootloader on a G4 device. Does anyone know the cut cable method?
No, if you do so and make your Wizard can't even power on, then it's a brick. It is nearly impossible to recover unless you know the JTAG method (AFAIK, only 1 person here successfully unbrick a really bricked G4, and he didn't tell us how).
my suggestion for the bricked phone (if indeed it is bricked, ie., it won't turn on at all) is to call HTC up and see if you phone is under warranty. I bought my cingular 8125 off of ebay and i use it with a canadian provider, so there is no warranty from anyone in that case, but suprisingly, when i bricked my G4 and I was gonna send it to get it fixed at whatever cost they were gonna say, they went by the IMEI # and said that it was still under warranty (irrespective of the fact that i bought it off of ebay and that i wasnt a cingular customer) and fixed it at no cost. They even changed the entire housing and put a new one on there for free (no idea why). So call them and try it. You have nothin to loose by calling. Good luck, i understand the pain and anguish and the "kick myself in the a**" feeling when yo flash a G3 onto G4 unknowingly coz thats what happened to me. again, good luck.
ban me now.
i know i know, any hi! i'm new thread deserves beatings, and whilst i'm fully aware i'm tempting the wrath of you all by doing this....... but i don't know where else to look.
i got a htc hero 24hrs ago on orange (uk). upgrade from a sony k850i so i have never had a smartphone before. i have no idea what i'm doing with it.
i've looked but not found a RTFM page yet, or i am that retarded that i can't even find it. what i can find contradicts what i've previously read so i though i'd ask you lot....
anyway - grovelling apologies aside:
1) rooting - is there one simple way to do this, so far i have found 4 processes and don't know which ones to trust.
2) ROM's - finally found out how to get software for the phone-(shouldn't there have been a disk with the phone?) and have installed active sync. i have just downloaded:
RUU_Herrange_UK_2.73.61.5_release_signed_NoDriver
is that the best/most recent ROM? if not, what is?
i guess i dont know enough about the phone to know the differences and therefore where to start. does rooting your phone allow you to get access to other apps like cydia and icy for the iphone do for example? whats the point, apart from to enable read/write access on the SD card (whats the biggest SD Card a Hero will take by the way?)
3) radios? what difference does it make if i'm listening to queen or queens of the stone age lol. seriously, whats the score here and where do i look for noob info?
help me. people with iphones are telling me i did a bad thing getting a hero. make me wise in the ways of the droid.
please and thank you.
Hi mate,
I am no expert as I have only had my Hero a week and have come from winmo. But I have rooted my phone and installed a rom and it was dead easy.
1. Follow this video - http://theunlockr.com/2009/08/27/how-to-root-your-htc-hero-in-one-click/ where he says to unzip or extract the cm-hero-recovery.img file all he means is find it on your pc and just copy that file to the SDCard.
I would also recommend doing a backup after rooting your phone from that video. To do this turn ur phone off, then hold the home and power button together and that will get you into the recovery area, then just select the nandroid backup option.
2. I have used the Modaco rom and have had no problems at all with it, not sure if its better than the orange one though sorry.
3. When people talk about the radio file for the Hero they are talking about a file that enables the phone to recieve the mobile phone signal, it also enables the phone to recieve a wi fi signal etc. I even think it does GPS, basically these can be tweaked to get better reception, thus you can update them. I really hope that made sense lol and hope you get what i mean.
4. Oh and if you want to put a new ROM on ur phone then follow this video - http://theunlockr.com/2009/08/27/how-to-load-a-custom-rom-on-your-htc-hero/
If not just pm me lol.
brilliant - thank you.
is there a list of available ROM's for the hero anywhere and a list of what they do? ie benefits rather than a bunch of files names that have tweeked - they make no sence to me.
i dont know how you'd weigh one ROM up against another, to me it's like comparing chinese and japanese when you speak neither !
also is there an alternative marketplace, i know apple iphone has icy and cydia. i dont want warez just wondering if there's an alt. community as apple have out there (i'm thinking you guys are 'it' lol)
Don't think there is a list of ROM's as tbh the only good one around is the Modaco one. There is an Orange one out but I think people still rate the Modaco one as better, but I could be wrong in that. If you go for the Modaco one though you won't regret it.
As far as I know there is no other marketplace.
If you get into any problems in rooting and putting a ROM on ur Hero just pm me.
i see all these nice incons and i have no clue how u install them , i really would appericate it if someone could list step by step how to install them thank u so much
Here my friend take a look at this thread! I don't think I can explain it much better!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=567080
What are those "Help me!!!!!!!"-Threads always supposed to be? Is it so difficult to choose a proper ThreadTitle which informs a potential reader about the content of the Thread. And why the hell must it sound like you have bricked your phone completely when u just want to ask a minor standard-question (without even using the searchfunction by the way... ). Please Guys keep this forum clean and informative.
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Yes, it's crazy to see all those questions without people make the effort to use the search function!
im not that good on here sorry for the quesions but i have one more how do u flash your cabs and xmls again im sorry and thank u alot
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im not that good on here sorry for the quesions but i have one more how do u flash your cabs and xmls again im sorry and thank u alot
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Flash is fore Rom's!!
Cabs are installed!!
Just download the cab's you need, copy to your SD and pres on install! Don't see the difficult in it!
Oh yes fore your safety, install the cab on the device's memory!!
no i understand all of that , im talking about when i save my new icons to a folder then go in and copy them , i needed to knw where i paste them so they will show up in the start menu
^^^ Did you actually really read the answer in posting #2?
I kind of doubt that. Because your new question implies you haven´t.
Please follow the link, read everything, download and try the app - and there you go.
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Wow xda-developers is so friendly!! Whats with all the jumping on people. If someone is new they dont know how it works in here. So just let them know , in a nice way. The responses here sound like you dont want any new people here. Fine any new person who reads this head over to www.ppcgeeks.com . The people are much nicer there and wont get pissed if you ask a question.
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Wow xda-developers is so friendly!! Whats with all the jumping on people. If someone is new they dont know how it works in here. So just let them know , in a nice way. The responses here sound like you dont want any new people here. Fine any new person who reads this head over to www.ppcgeeks.com . The people are much nicer there and wont get pissed if you ask a question.
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Sometimes (a lot of) people just don't read nor search and expect to be spoon-fed the information they need (because they would not spend the effort to do/find it themselves). I don't know about the majority but to me that is just laziness and quite annoying.
AS FOR THE QUESTION POSTED, if you actually do go to the link posted above, the information is there and any questions you might still have is better directed in that thread rather than creating a new one such as this with a SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME!!!! subject line.
I thought moderators are deleting threads such as this.
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Wow xda-developers is so friendly!! Whats with all the jumping on people. If someone is new they dont know how it works in here. So just let them know , in a nice way. The responses here sound like you dont want any new people here. Fine any new person who reads this head over to www.ppcgeeks.com . The people are much nicer there and wont get pissed if you ask a question.
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Nobody is jumping on anybody.
The truth is harsh sometimes. Obsolete and redundant questions and answers are definitely not something any forum is searching for. It´s called spam.
Ignoring the correct answer (which in this case was given in the very first answering posting) isn´t a beginners mistake, imho. It doesn´t show respect to the user who posted the link.
If me pointing out this very fact was too rude, I am sorry. But to be honest, I am tired of recurring subjects which could easily be solved using the search function. I did the same when I came here as a beginner. Oh, and btw, please check the forum rules and the new stickies.
Last, but not least, in the other forum you mention, it might be a different story sometimes. People get ignored there, and some statements are much harsher than anything I have personally ever seen here.
We are all human beings. Cool down.
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Ok yes the link provided was good information. I personally just PM someone when I have a question. I been here for a while so i have that option because people will PM me back.
My point is some people or smarter than others. Iam a developer myself, so alot of problems or questions I can figure out on my own. But some people are not that smart and this phone can very easily expose that fact. So some new people might need more help , and sarcasm wont help anyone. They dont call this a smart phone for nothing. Whats simple to you and me , might be complicated to others.
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Wow xda-developers is so friendly!! Whats with all the jumping on people. If someone is new they dont know how it works in here. So just let them know , in a nice way. The responses here sound like you dont want any new people here. Fine any new person who reads this head over to www.ppcgeeks.com . The people are much nicer there and wont get pissed if you ask a question.
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I don't see what's your problem Sr.
First of all the moderators have create a special sub-forum fore this Q and A.
secondly I can understand that maybe using the searchfunction is not easy to everyone, and certainly not if you don't know what to search!
But after the moment I post him the correct link to his question, a hole thread that give you bay the way a hole step by step explanations I don't know how we can give a better treatment!?
but after that the person came back with a question what is tread in there!!!???
I don't know sr but there is a end on everyone's goodness!
nice is a good word
Ok I understand its annoying when newbies just dont get it. As for a problem I dont have one , and maybe I came off harsh. My mistake too.
When the OP said flash a cab , that alone told me he isn't computer or phone savy. He obviously is way over his head with this type of phone. He probaly got lucky when he found this website. Iam sure he was excited that he could ask a question because he was lost. The comment that pissed me off a little was telling him its safer to install to the phone. Thats definitally not right at all.
The only reason I said anything was because I could tell the OP was really lost and confused. By reading his comments I could tell he never had anything like this before. So for his 1st venture into the wonderful world of windows mobile, I just didnt want him to be discouraged. I want him to enjoy the phone and mod it to the fullest extent.
the reason way I have wright "installed cabs on your device" is because there are some cab's that don't have a correct installation pat. And like I saw it was a new member who posted this thread I give him this tip, to be sure he don't installed it on SD.
I don't see what is wrong with that!?
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1) Installation on a unstable OS like windows mobile ,will cause slowdown in the future after alot of apps are installed. Its nobodys fault but HTC who made the phone.
2) If there is a virus , you can delete it easier on storage card.
3) If you have to hard reset the phone , you lose everything. Thats why I recommend storage card.
See how nicely I spoke , I gave point by point reasons without sarcasm. We are all happy now.
It´s a bit sad to see the development of this thread.
Something which was not "bashing" turned into bashing after a posting was made, citing the "bad word". In the meantime, there was even a thread opened to discuss that very question.
I think both threads should be closed. They don´t belong into the "HD2 Themes and Apps" section anyway.
And, imho, it is recommendable to install system relevant items like icon cabs to the device, I definitely second kurt-willems´ advice. On the other hand, CSMI or JWMD Icon Changer, the possible programs to change icons manually, can go onto the memory card.
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1) Installation on a unstable OS like windows mobile ,will cause slowdown in the future after alot of apps are installed. Its nobodys fault but HTC who made the phone.
2) If there is a virus , you can delete it easier on storage card.
3) If you have to hard reset the phone , you lose everything. Thats why I recommend storage card.
See how nicely I spoke , I gave point by point reasons without sarcasm. We are all happy now.
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But I don't see sarcasm on my post, maybe my bad english, or maybe my culture.
That was all I had to say.
zarpy said:
1) Installation on a unstable OS like windows mobile ,will cause slowdown in the future after alot of apps are installed. Its nobodys fault but HTC who made the phone.
2) If there is a virus , you can delete it easier on storage card.
3) If you have to hard reset the phone , you lose everything. Thats why I recommend storage card.
See how nicely I spoke , I gave point by point reasons without sarcasm. We are all happy now.
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I don't want to wade in on the bashing, but to make a comment like your first one, "unstable OS", sounds to me like you have something against windows mobile, and to post in a thread of someone looking for help that their os is just "Unstable" is not really help ...
I am sure there are a lot of people that use WiMo daily and would not agree that it is "Unstable"
I personally install almost everything to phone memory because this phone can take it, and my phone runs just fine...
With this phone there is a bigger chance of the SD card getting corrupted than the OS ...
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Its very funny to me now. I just responded and I didnt bash anyone. Its funny how people can talk to someone anyway they like, but cant take it when someone talks to them the same way.
If you didnt like the way I responded, maybe you shouldnt that way to others. Very simple have a nice day!!!