I've just upgraded my Vodafone 1605 to WM6 successfully, and updated my radio version. The problem I'm faced with now is that my device hunts for signal whenever I'm indoors and simply wont find one until I go outside.
Does anybody have any suggestions or fixes for this? I've tried various radio versions and I'm currently on 1.43.00.00 with the same issues.
Phone details:
ROM version - 3.54.255.3
Radio Version - 1.43.00.00
HERM200
IPL-1.04
HERM200
SPL-2.10.Olipro
Thanks in advance.
This is almost certainly the Radio Upgrade - newer doesn't always mean better because they are often released optimised to a specific carrier.
Try 1.48 or 1.38 (I find 1.38 works well in most parts of the world).
Could you please link to either one of those upgrades?
I'm literally tearing my hair out here and can't find them - Thanks for your understanding.
*EDIT*
Found this wonderful website....I guess it's just trial and error now!
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtractedRadioRoms
Okay, I've just updated to radio version 1.48 and I'm still getting no signal....
Any ideas guys? I'm getting ready to chuck this phone against a wall...
I had really bad reception until I used 1.54.07.00 radio from ATT rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334697
I've already tried that ROM and still the same thing...
I'm wondering if it's a problem with this windows install....?
Okay, another update on this...I've tried 1.54.07.00 radio from ATT again (so that's my current ROM) and I'm still getting no signal.
When the SIM is in my old Sony Ericsson it works fine...so it's definately not network coverage issues.
So far the ROMS i've tried are:
1.38
1.43
1.48
1.54
None of them have meant I get coverage in this room, where I used to be able to get it no problem before with my old Hermes. (This one was sent as an exchange from Vodafone due to my last one having screen issues).
Plllleeaaassseee help
Yet another update.
I've just done the following in an attempt to remedy the situation:
Unlocked the phone to take and SIM.
Flashed the Radio to 1.48 ROM.
Flashed the phone to Windows mobile 6 HTC release.
Still...no signal.
Is this now a hardware issue?
Is your SIM card old? There are some reports of some older cards not working too well when using the 3G, HEDGE or EDGE networks.
Try setting your phone to GSM only just to test this - otherwise I'm at a loss.
hmm same here affter a wm6 upgrade.
Noticed that my orange simcard does get reception indoors though!!
outdoors my vodafone gets reception (not always, but it does get gsm gprs connection) but indoors my vodafone prepaid card gets no reception at all..
Downgraded to the wm5 rom and 1.27 radio but still this problem stays.
On the choice of network providers i dont see the dutch vodafone activated? (unticked) it does find and see it but wont get on it.
After schaps 4.01 rom i noticed that with -g3 connection always on- vodafone did get connection but only on 3g (umts), as soon as i click on gsm only instead of automatic all signal strength is gone again.
I am now on the orginal wm5 rom and radio 1.27 but still no vodafone? is there blacklisting of any sorts by the poviders? My vodafone simcard is brandnew!
Please help
hmm
Seems it is a blocked imei. been reading a bit on this forum and something similar happened to another member..
Vodafone works for a while but then it crashes and you wont get contact with kpn vodafone tmobile anymore. only orange seems to work ok.
Must be a nicked phone. weird.. almost 100% sure that the phone isnt nicked.
Where can i check if an imei is reported stolen?
UPDATE: strangly enuff the tytn now works again with my vodafone sim, but only on 3G? .. also i checked and the phone workes great on orange and t-mobile, kpn it does not recognize.. but why did it start to work again on vodafone?
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afternoon all, bit of a newbie here but will try and get my problem accross.
I have an orange M3100 with whatever rom that comes with as standard, to make it except a t mobile sim i used the free unlocker from here, version 2. this all worked fine until 2 months later my phone locked up on me and i had to hard reset. this went ok until when it was loading the rom. it got to the orange2006.tsk and always froze. after many many attempts i noticed on the boot screen it said NO GSM. i looked around here and realised i had a corrupt radio or no radio at all. confused i downloaded the radio only 1.35 and installed. finally success my phone loaded the rom which by now i had the xda live 0.20 and the radio worked fine. the problems i am having now are that whenever the phone looses signal, it won't in the conventional sense try and search or show the icon saying no signal. it just shows the last known signal strength before it was lost and then when i do want to make a call or send an sms it says "Phone operation failed" and looses signal and then tries to lock on again. this is extremely annoying as my girlfriend has reminded me on many occassions when trying to contact me, she just cannot get through. it gives her a dead tone.
i have tried flashing the device with the proper orange rom off the site thats from romania or somewhere to get an offical orange radio rom on again and then i flashed to xda live 0.20 and its still doing it.
is my radio just buggered or is there a simple flash solution i can do to fix it.
the phone is currently using XDA live 0.20 with radio 1.35.00.11 and bootloader 1.4 super CID (i think, as i can load any rom on it)
also to point out the phone never did this loosing signal and not changing thing before i had to hard reset.
thanks all and sorry for the long post.
it seems the problems seem to stem from Edge here in the uk on orange. i never saw the E icon before i upgraded the radio shack and now its coming up and errors. i never get the hanging problem with that.
anyone suggest anything? as i know edge is faster gprs i dont think i can disable it
thanks all
Consider changing your radio
I would start by changing to an older stable radio, perhaps 1.27. 1.27 is a very stable radio (in my experience), and it seems very tolerant. If that does not help, I would try to upgrade to the latest radio, 1.38. I am using it with the WM VI Black Ed. ROM without any problems here in the United States.
Good Luck! (Gotta keep the girl friend happy!)
Hi,
I am with Vodafone New Zealand and it's weird enough that I can't receive any phone calls when I upgraded my radio rom to 1.43 or later.
I have tried 1.43, 1.46, 1.47, 1.48.... they just don't work.
However 1.40 and 1.41 work fine. I have been wanting to go for later versions since I need stronger signal.
I don't think I missed any steps during the radio upgrade process as I was following through the right instruction and I could flash it successfully with 1.40 and 1.41.
Are they anybody having the similar problem? Will there be any fixes or workaround to get the later vesions of radio to work?
I have tried this on the official Dopod WM6 and some Black roms with SPL2.10.
Please help!! Cheers =)
define "don't work"
Sorry about being not very clear. I was trying to say that I cannot not receive any incoming calls. And also the caller cannot hear the outgoing signal tones when ringing my phone The calls are just not coming through...
I may have run into a similar problem...
Using anything higher than 1.43, I wasn't getting all of my incoming calls. It may have to do with calls being denied when I have an active data connection... Either way, 1.47 and 1.48 both seem to present this problem for me.
I encountered that same problem in China mainland,
The solution is to update a new SIM from your operator,
Maybe you will spend a little money on it,
Most of people resolved that problem with this solution,
I will update my SIM at the price of RMB30,
But now I think no need because I am using 1.41,
It works well in China mainland,
Thers is no 3G sinagal in China mainland,
I think if you are in 2G, 2.5G or 2.75G network you can't tell the difference between radio 1.41, 1.43, 1.47 and 1.48.
that's all.
AikonCN said:
I encountered that same problem in China mainland,
The solution is to update a new SIM from your operator,
Maybe you will spend a little money on it,
Most of people resolved that problem with this solution,
I will update my SIM at the price of RMB30,
But now I think no need because I am using 1.41,
It works well in China mainland,
Thers is no 3G sinagal in China mainland,
I think if you are in 2G, 2.5G or 2.75G network you can't tell the difference between radio 1.41, 1.43, 1.47 and 1.48.
that's all.
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Anybody try this method?
I pose the same problem here in Indonesia,nothing above 1.41 seems to work,the recipient couldnt hear my voice.Im reverting back to 1.41,hopefully everything will be fine.
Fantastic! Upgrading the sim card to the latest one solved my problem! Thanks for all you advices! Hope others can solve their issues! I am on 1.47 now and it's all good! cheers!!
please refer to:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_UpgradeProblems#problem7
AikonCN said:
I encountered that same problem in China mainland,
The solution is to update a new SIM from your operator,
Maybe you will spend a little money on it,
Most of people resolved that problem with this solution,
I will update my SIM at the price of RMB30,
But now I think no need because I am using 1.41,
It works well in China mainland,
Thers is no 3G sinagal in China mainland,
I think if you are in 2G, 2.5G or 2.75G network you can't tell the difference between radio 1.41, 1.43, 1.47 and 1.48.
that's all.
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I'm in China now, and just change from my old Nokia 6100 and the old SIM card voltage etc. is not suitable for new devices.
This worked for my HTC P3600i - Thanks so much for the tip.
help
AikonCN said:
I encountered that same problem in China mainland,
The solution is to update a new SIM from your operator,
Maybe you will spend a little money on it,
Most of people resolved that problem with this solution,
I will update my SIM at the price of RMB30,
But now I think no need because I am using 1.41,
It works well in China mainland,
Thers is no 3G sinagal in China mainland,
I think if you are in 2G, 2.5G or 2.75G network you can't tell the difference between radio 1.41, 1.43, 1.47 and 1.48.
that's all.
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hello i tried ti uptodate my v1605 from vodafone uk to wm6, all was ok till i tried to call or receive a call it is impossible. I have tried using different sim cards however the problem seems to be another. if someone can helpme or at least tell me how to return to wm5 and get again my mobile working..
Same Problem
Hello All Together,
I have nearly the same problem. My Tytn was clearly new (3 Days) and the network signs shows that there is network, but if i start to call it doesn´t work.
After the Hardreset comes the message "no GSM".
I have the newest SimCard in there, but the problem still there...
I need help...
Thanks
problem is the same
AikonCN said:
I encountered that same problem in China mainland,
The solution is to update a new SIM from your operator,
Maybe you will spend a little money on it,
Most of people resolved that problem with this solution,
I will update my SIM at the price of RMB30,
But now I think no need because I am using 1.41,
It works well in China mainland,
Thers is no 3G sinagal in China mainland,
I think if you are in 2G, 2.5G or 2.75G network you can't tell the difference between radio 1.41, 1.43, 1.47 and 1.48.
that's all.
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as charlie said i Have exactly the same problem, I tried to update my mobile the same v1605 ( vodafone uk) unlocked from wm5 to wm6, i cannot receive any call sometimes it sends txt but it is very difficult. I have tried different sims but the problem still is there, so please if our friend charile11 or someone has found any solution. i will thanks.
blackpanther1 said:
as charlie said i Have exactly the same problem, I tried to update my mobile the same v1605 ( vodafone uk) unlocked from wm5 to wm6, i cannot receive any call sometimes it sends txt but it is very difficult. I have tried different sims but the problem still is there, so please if our friend charile11 or someone has found any solution. i will thanks.
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I got the same problem..
I'm using T-Mobile MDA2, I have tried radios sinece 1.41 to 1.54, but I still have the terrible problem with my Phone.....
I flashed Dopod official rom and radio (everything.),but the problem is still there.
After a sleep, I found that system is stuck , so i restart the system, And I see NONE at GSM version part..!!!
Who can help me ?
harrybest said:
I got the same problem..
I'm using T-Mobile MDA2, I have tried radios sinece 1.41 to 1.54, but I still have the terrible problem with my Phone.....
I flashed Dopod official rom and radio (everything.),but the problem is still there.
After a sleep, I found that system is stuck , so i restart the system, And I see NONE at GSM version part..!!!
Who can help me ?
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Out of interest - did this die (ie No GSM) while on Radio 1.54 or AFTER moving from 1.54 to another radio? Sounds suspiciously like sudden NO-GSM radio death syndrome stikes some more phones... see this thread about the problem and this thread about the warning that 1.54.xx radios appear to be a common factor in radio bricks in the UK, Germany and Netherlands that suddenly appear without warning.
Also, people please remember that higher radio versions do not necessarily mean "stronger" signals on your network (they don't magic up signals or make variable coverage better - they just handle the signal you DO have a little differently) and can in some circumstances introduce more issues than they fix. Finding a radio that works well with your network and your everyday location is better than constantly keeping the version numbers high
Anyone tested radio roms in .se ?
I think that 1.47.00.10 is the best yet.
All roms above disconnects me when driving around in car..
Same problem for me.
I've tried every radio from 1.51 and worked my way downwards. I'm currently trying 1.35.0.11.
The problem with dropped calls during driving disappeared, but now i get dropped calls when standing still instead. If I do a soft reset, the phone works normally for some time before it starts dropping calls again.
Tested new 1.47.30.10 ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=326995
Each radio is calibrated for the network it was designed for. So, I would first test the radios that were made for the 3 network in Sweden as they will most likely produced the best results; all other radios would produce mixed/subjective results.
And how do I know which radios that are made for 3;s network in Sweden ?
I've tried the radio version that I found in one of the instructions on 3's support-page (1.38.00.10)
http://www.tre.se/upload/Programvara/mob/Instruktioner_uppgradHTCTyTN.pdf
That didn't work any better than the rest I've tested.
1.35.0.11 worked like a charm for some days, with minor bugs, until just recently when the phone began dropping calls again..
I will try with 1.47.30.10 later today.
1.47.30.10 worked in the same way as the other "newer" radios did:
Not moving = Good!
Moving = Dropped calls. You CAN NOT be in a moving vehicle since roaming between your operators antennas or changing from 3G to GSM disconnects the call immediately.
The "older" radios works fine for a random timelimit, then a soft reset is needed. Roaming doesn't seem to disconnect calls.
Would it help if i changed ROM / ExtROM?
Current setup:
Swedish WM 6, downloaded from HTC (3.54.263.2)
Radio: 1.27.00.00 (have tried every radio version that is newer without success..)
ExtROM: 3.54.263.102
Operator: 3
Area: Stockholm / Sweden
Fine. But I have 1.50 with Telia it works gr8
Hi every one,
i've got my hermes radio to 1.54.30.10 month ago. and i've just seen a Seniour member started a thread warning that the 1.54 series are unstable....
i haven't met any problems till now.. i wanna know if it's possible for me to downgrade my radio to 1.47 or 1.38?
I'm no expert, but I went from 1.54.30.10 to the official 1.54.07.00. Never tried going lower.
I just downgraded to 1.43 due to problems with 1.54.30.10 - start loosing signal recently
check this
Hi
may be this link will help u .... Just to have an idea
u can read it from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=265975
good luck paw
ss1271 said:
Hi every one,
i've got my hermes radio to 1.54.30.10 month ago. and i've just seen a Seniour member started a thread warning that the 1.54 series are unstable....
i haven't met any problems till now.. i wanna know if it's possible for me to downgrade my radio to 1.47 or 1.38?
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Yes, u can down grade to a lower radio version, it's done quite often (assuming u have hardspl).
Thanks a lot~
I'll downgrade my Radio as soon as I finished this semester~
By the way...
Are there any serious problem( known as bricked your Hermes) if i continue to using this 1.54.30.10 Radio?
i mean if it necessary for me to downgrade my Radio?
No hard evidence, but 1.5+ radios are suspected for causing problems - read details HERE and HERE
I start experiencing problems similar to described in the above threads, so just downgareded to 1.43
Cheers
not having any major issues with this radio ROM, been on the radio for more or less 3 weeks (touch wood! ) .. am on Celcom Malaysia 3G (UMTS 2100)
Similar problems here. Downgraded, but it may be too late,had numerous connection problems and slow 3G on tmobile.
Forget radio 1.54.xxxxx
From my experience - flashing radio 1.54 can brick your phone , lost CID and sspl .
ss1271 said:
Thanks a lot~
I'll downgrade my Radio as soon as I finished this semester~
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Bad plan get rid of it now.
Use this one: ftp://xda:[email protected]/HERM_Radio_Only_1.48.00.10_CustomRUU.rar
it's not worth the risk of waiting.... you've been lucky so far. Current thought is that the 1.5x series ROMs drive the radio chip too hard and it overheats to extinction. First signs are drops and erratic radio performance. If you wait until you already got it you prob waited too long. But if you do get those symptoms before you reflash, then pull the battery immediately and (OK this might sound weird but it worked for a friend of mine) put the phone & the battery in a zip lock baggy and put it in the freezer while you get that radio rom I pointed at above ready.
When ready, put it back together and immediately flash the Radio with the 1.48 version. After it resets and does it's business.... reflash the 1.48 again.
Hopefully you will never see the problem again, if that didn't work then you may as well try calling your provider to see if they will replace the phone.
I've downgraded my radio to 1.48 about 1 month ago..
i'll show my grateful to u, thanks a lot!
radio 1.54.30.10 is working perfect on Orange Israel ,Kiyevstar Ukrain, MTC Moscow , and other Europe countries that i visited , this radio is the best i tried
regards
edward
kipe said:
not having any major issues with this radio ROM, been on the radio for more or less 3 weeks (touch wood! ) .. am on Celcom Malaysia 3G (UMTS 2100)
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So far so good .. nothing bad happen yet .. notice that my CELCOM 3G signal getting better ...
Same here, I have a better signal and connects to 3G faster than AT&T's radio 1.54.07.00, and I am on the AT&T Network
just to add to the the list of "satisfied customers" ..no problem whatsoever with my provider (UMTS 2100/GSM 900+1800)..
best downgrade and how to obtain it
I'm also experiencing similar problems. I have been running 1.54.07.00 for about 3 months and steadily experiencing more drop-outs on the phone service. I've ready different treads and some people have downgraded to 1.48 and other to 1.43. Is either one a better choice? And, sorry to ask a basic question, but where to I download the downgrade. I searched, but to no avail.
Hermes 100
Rom Version 3.62.502.3
Rom date 10/11/2007 (Oct 11)
Radio version: 154.07.00
I've been using this Radio on my Vario II since it showed up here (2 months maybe) and nothing happened. Signal strength is still the same. For me personally it's the best Radio I've been using so far. I'd be a pity having to downgrade now...
rnando said:
I'm also experiencing similar problems. I have been running 1.54.07.00 for about 3 months and steadily experiencing more drop-outs on the phone service. I've ready different treads and some people have downgraded to 1.48 and other to 1.43. Is either one a better choice? And, sorry to ask a basic question, but where to I download the downgrade. I searched, but to no avail.
Hermes 100
Rom Version 3.62.502.3
Rom date 10/11/2007 (Oct 11)
Radio version: 154.07.00
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hermes wiki
I've had the 'false roaming' icon on for a few weeks now in addition to a 'no signal' scare for a few hours. I'm thinking of just downgrading to the 1.43 radio that originally shipped with the WM5 AT&T ROM.
Hi. I've been using my hermes for a while now and playing with different upgrades without ever having a problem. I've never tried to use mobile internet (GPRS/3G/EDGE) before though. I started trying recently when my ISP became so bad i could barely load a webpage.
No matter what i do the hermes wont even attempt to connect. (I used my electic guitar pickups to detect the radio bleeps. I get them when making a call but not when attempting gprs).
Here is a rough outline of the roms i remember trying:
Schaps 4.30 (with whatever radio it came with)
CRCs 13.4 (with the radio it came with and with 1.48 radio to try and get connected)
Orange UK rom (SPV_M3100_ROMUpdate_0407), radio 1.38
(all with Hard-SPL-2.10 installed)
I'm on Orange UK, and I've even tried downgrading to the latest orange rom (the one with 1.38 radio). Still no joy. I bought the one day access to orange world thing (about 4 times :O), and tried connecting using orange internet and orange wap connections.
Is my radio forever fried/bricked for some reason? Any help would be appreciated, as I dont fancy trying to get my old imate sp5 to connect to the net . Looks like I might be forking out for a new phone
PS. Wifi internet works fine, as do voice calls.
Did you check the MMS/WAP settings as these are lost when loading a new rom. Either run the carrier configurator (if included in the ROM) or get the settings from your provider and do it manually...
Thanks for the reply ultramag. I tried the configurator when I had the CRC 13.4 rom installed. It seemed to set up the settings for wap the same as on oranges configuration site. I assumed that my phone must be being blocked for not being an orange rom or the radio version was incompatible. I then tried radio version 1.48 as i read somewhere that this worked with orange uk. Then i tried installing the orange full phone rom including orange version of wm5 and the orange radio rom 1.38. I suspect this could be a physical hardware fault as i have opened up the phone before to fix the earphone speaker and camera.
I wonder is the voice call chip separate from the one that does GPRS? or is it a one chip deal?
Also, it is a very old sim card. Could this contribute in any way?
mmm if its an old sim card it probably cant do 3g but gprs should work.
perhaps your current radio rom does not support data somehow? or you havent got all your settings configured properly... its all i can think of...
I tried a vodafone payg sim card from someone elses phone, and it came up with a 3G symbol on the start bar at the top. I couldnt connect however, but according to the vodafone website you dont have to explicitly pay to get to the www.live.vodafone.com site? Or am I wrong?
Getting the 3G symbol with vodafone suggests I might be getting close to a solution here. Also connecting and disconnecting the 3g box on comm manager caused radio bleeps which suggests it is capable of 3g. Looks like my beef is with orange/vodafone and not the Hermes. Typical!
Thanks for all your help guys. I'll post if it ever works.
try your carriers website for gprs specific settings =) i know i had to edit my settings before mine would work..
Problem solved
I've finally sold this problem. It was the SIM card and nothing to do with the phone. I never managed to get through to Orange tech support because theyre useless (last time i phoned they said their tech support systems would be down for 5 hours).
A friend had an Orange SIM and I tried MMS (which uses GPRS) with his SIM in the Hermes and it worked fine. I then tried it with my SIM and it failed as usual. Sorry for wasting peoples time with this.
P.S. Orange sucks. I will be switching service ASAP.