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Anyone heard about HTC Manila? It is a new homescreen / interface which seems pretty good. Only seems to be in something like beta now (doesn't seem to be working really good). They are discussing this in kaiser thread (look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=363500&highlight=htc+manila) atm, but I was hoping for something for our little prophets as well...
I tried it on my Neo yesterday but it's unbelievable slow and the version I've got running seems to be only for VGA screens!
Hey guys, i been recently offer a deal on craiglist about trading my htc hd2 for the htc g2.
I was wondering if this is a great deal.
I hate WM, and i am currently running android on my htc hd2. The problem is that its taking too much battery to run it. I like the idea of having a keyboard, yet swype seems a better choice to type in. The screen is much larger on the htc hd2, but hey i don't really need that big of a screen.
Help can't decide.
What are your cons and pros about this?
Thank you
I would stick to the HD2.
- The battery life is depending on which Andriod build you use. My battery last for about 30 hours without recharging.
- NAND install for Andriod is coming really close
- WM aint that bad. The Sence build of HTC makes it all good. Specially when you use a nice and shiny ROM of Miri and Dinik which will be updates with CHT2.0 soon and new skins.
- Swype comes with WM and Andriod, I trully like the touch screen more then a solid keyboard.
- There isnt a phone with better/ much better hardware specs then the HD2
- There isnt a phone with more capabilities then the HD2 (7 OS ports (wm6.x.x, WP7, Meego, Andriod, unbuntu, Win95, Win98, etc), fully changable ROMS, no fabrication limitations)
My conclusion is that there isnt a better phone then the HD2 at the moment. Maybe next year there will be some new phones which will be better. I'm curious about the dual screen mobiles which supports 3D. But how it will work and what the experience of those will be .. i have no clue
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I would stick to the HD2.
- The battery life is depending on which Andriod build you use. My battery last for about 30 hours without recharging.
- NAND install for Andriod is coming really close
- WM aint that bad. The Sence build of HTC makes it all good. Specially when you use a nice and shiny ROM of Miri and Dinik which will be updates with CHT2.0 soon and new skins.
- Swype comes with WM and Andriod, I trully like the touch screen more then a solid keyboard.
- There isnt a phone with better/ much better hardware specs then the HD2
- There isnt a phone with more capabilities then the HD2 (7 OS ports (wm6.x.x, WP7, Meego, Andriod, unbuntu, Win95, Win98, etc), fully changable ROMS, no fabrication limitations)
My conclusion is that there isnt a better phone then the HD2 at the moment. Maybe next year there will be some new phones which will be better. I'm curious about the dual screen mobiles which supports 3D. But how it will work and what the experience of those will be .. i have no clue
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hd2 is the best phone of the year 2009 , best phone of 2010, THE BEST !! ))) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=860549
In chinese , we call it trade a watermelon for a gingili.
anyway , goodluck!
HD2 is by far the most versitile phone...
why trade it???
Lets say the Dell Venue does come out.. as stated
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/gadgetrev...ell-venue-launching-in-korea-this-month/20811
We do get our DVP as notified....
Whats the chance you wonderful Android Chefs out there could cook up an 2.2 Android ROM based on teh Dell Venue, that would work on the Dell Venue Pro, and still let us use our keyboard.. (DLL off Motorola Charm or Droid Pro maybe..?)
Just thinking out loud..
Please lets not start this "i want android" crap! If you want an android phone why not just buy one in the first place?
Maybe because he prefers Android with a Keyboard?
You probably prefer WP7, but Since Dell is releasing the Venue pro with Android there's a good chance the DVP will be able to run it too...
It's still XDA, cooking up roms is the one reason why we're here
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Maybe because he prefers Android with a Keyboard?
You probably prefer WP7, but Since Dell is releasing the Venue pro with Android there's a good chance the DVP will be able to run it too...
It's still XDA, cooking up roms is the one reason why we're here
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Epic 4G, G2, Droid Pro, rumoured Shift 4G - tons of options for android keyboard devices. No need to clutter the forum with the inevitable "WP7 is crap, android is better" BS that is in practically every other forum.
Well,
I'm with you, no need to clutter, but if you're in love with the look of the DVP but need the keyboard, that's the best option you have...
Guess making a sub-forum for this questions makes best for both worlds?
with the consensus android is a nice addition but definitely not needed. I am much happier with wp7
I ask because I LOVE the DVP form factor.. and I have three HUGE issues with WP7.
Tethering.. I HAVE to have a phone that tethers. Keeping two lines (one DVP and one my Dash3G) is BS.
Storage.. Why should I keep a thumb drive around when I have a phone with 8-32GB of storage ?
Customizing some basic things. Like not having all my pictures in the picture hub, ALL my facebook contacts in my People hub.. If I have some videos or pictures of a personal nature I would like a way to hide them from being easily seen in my hub should I want to show some less personal pictures to friends, etc..
That said, I personally am not a fan of Android.. and with my time with HD7 I found that I really like WP7 the 99% of the time I am using if for a phone, or texting, etc..
Personally I am seeing a lot of what WM7 could have been in andriod when it comes to customizations and other features. Heck looke at HTC sense on 6.5.3 and HTC sense on the EVO 4G. They arent that much different, heck if WM6.5 had added more active widgets and such, to a PRODUCTION phone it may not have been given such a bad rep. Look at the 3VO and other cooked ROMS here. A LOT of them are better than iOS or any Andriod I have used, but a lot of those features were never added to a production phone.
I digress.. when it comes to andriod.. the new Netfront UI for andriod looks awesome. There are also a ton of apps that simply arent being done for WP7 yet. So.. Long story short... I like personalizing and customizing my phone. I may get over that with WP7.. I may not. Be great if I had an option to play with a Andriod ROM on my DVP, and then go back to WP7 and so forth. Even be cooler if I had the ability to dual boot. But I doubt highly with the way WP7 deals with the SD cards that would be possible.
In any case not trying to get into a WM6 vs Andriod vs WP7 which is better conversation.. they all have thier pluses and minuses. Just curious if anyone thinks it would be possible to put andriod on a DVP should the need arise.
Or even better.. anyone try putting a WM6.5.3 ROM on a WP7 yet? I havent checked..
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Or even better.. anyone try putting a WM6.5.3 ROM on a WP7 yet?
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Just get an HD2 if you want WM 6.x.
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Just get an HD2 if you want WM 6.x.
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Would that be the one that fits in my hand perfectly.. and has a slide out portrait keyboard.. and a nice vibrant screen.. ? OR the fragile huge phone with no keyboard.
I guess I could get a new tilt2.. but it doesnt have a portait keyboard and a smaller darker screen.
The whole reason for this thread.. is the DVP is a UNIQUE form factor.. and one of the most beautiful phones I have ever owned. If they made it with WM6.5.3 it would be my first choice. But since they don't make it that way.. it would be awesome to have a Energy 6.5.3 Rom for the DVP Personally thats my favorite UI to date.
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Epic 4G, G2, Droid Pro, rumoured Shift 4G - tons of options for android keyboard devices. No need to clutter the forum with the inevitable "WP7 is crap, android is better" BS that is in practically every other forum.
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Agreed.. they are both good in thier own way.
Im starting to like WP7.. its just so different.
As I mentioned, personally I like WM6.5.3 but know I am in the minority there..
I was praying and crossing my fingers the HTC Throphy (The mock up from last year and not the WP7 phone) that would come out before WP7 launched. As that looked to be my ideal phone.
I only started this thread because if the Venue and Venue Pro ar the same hardware, I wouldn't mind trying Android on my DVP (and mybe play witht he Netfront UI and other things) and possibly switching back to WP7.
Although as I mentioned.. I would gladly pay if someone could find a way to boot the Latest WM6.x Energy Rom onto my DVP.. I would be in heaven then.
Engadget Hands-on with the Dell Venue:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/23/dell-venue-launched-in-hong-kong-we-go-hands-on/
Id pay some good money to see android on the dell venue pro. I like windows phone 7 but the OS is still a bit young.. there's certain things I like better on android and no im not trying to cause a debate or argument.. im just sayin, if the dell venue comes out, how hard would it be to make that compatible with the dvp..I love my dvp by the way, especially the slide out keyboard
It would be great if WP7 and Android can be run on Dell Venue and DVP.
Anyone try yet? Or has anyone gotten the ROM off a Dell Venue?
bump, I'd like to see this get done, and I'd pay some good money for it too!
Bump... Just wondering if anyone has rooted the Venue and figured a way to install on the DVP yet..?
I've started a Bounty on Android on the DVP here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13920817#post13920817
Please, contribute if you can!
its verry quiet in this forum i can here my righting echo is any developers developing at the moment and hows the wp7 by nokser doing? is there any new roms under developement or is this it for the tg01?
GAME OVER!
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its verry quiet in this forum i can here my righting echo is any developers developing at the moment and hows the wp7 by nokser doing? is there any new roms under developement or is this it for the tg01?
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I'm onto something, but it's not tested on any TG01. Trying to get hands on one, to test it, if it works, you might have a new ROM and may be a new theme to play with
No promises though!
ohh okay drupad MAY ASWEL HAVE A GO
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I'm onto something, but it's not tested on any TG01. Trying to get hands on one, to test it, if it works, you might have a new ROM and may be a new theme to play with
No promises though!
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You need a tg01? i can test it for you...
mee too... i can test
jonnyhall1bmx1 said:
its verry quiet in this forum i can here my righting echo is any developers developing at the moment and hows the wp7 by nokser doing? is there any new roms under developement or is this it for the tg01?
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You never know, maybe there will be another rom release, but its pretty much game over for TG01 since Miro had all his work stolen along with his laptop.
I have moved to android myself, still have the TG01 at the moment, but i guess i will be selling it soon enough.
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You never know, maybe there will be another rom release, but its pretty much game over for TG01 since Miro had all his work stolen along with his laptop.
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Why none of You will continue Miro work ? He said His rom was not protected and I guess He would not mind if anybody did it.
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Wow, was that a tumble weed just crossed my path?
Just dropped in to see how it's going in here, apparently it's not going anywhere any more.
I know that was a bit of a troll statement but I just can't believe how quiet it is.
Wow, it really is quiet here! Haven't been around for a while!
I still have a TG01 which i will probabley keep... and if there are any new ROMs, themes etc, i can always be a beta tester
I never use my TG01 now; the last time i swithced it on was like 3 weeks ago! I got too many phones now haha!
Will probably need to start selling some!
yoo 5 phones in home :S is driving me crazy but tg01 is allways on at me and ofc sgs2, i use tg01 as main phone and sgs2 as dvd, ubuntu, music player, on my LCD tv and bluetooth mouse
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yoo 5 phones in home :S is driving me crazy but tg01 is allways on at me and ofc sgs2, i use tg01 as main phone and sgs2 as dvd, ubuntu, music player, on my LCD tv and bluetooth mouse
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Nice! Wow, you still prefer your tg01 to sgs2????
I tend to use my desire s more than sgs2. I don't mod my sgs2..
I use my desire s as a main phone, because the battery life last me really long! i may consider selling my sgs...
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Yea, the sgs2 is to much pimped phone, not really usefull as phone, but i found him a use I have tg01 for longer time then sgs2 and i got used to it, so and i dislike android. My biggest hope is to see wp7 to tg01, but as i see, no can do sir, that's why i am selling the tg01 and buying iphone or Samsung Omnia7.
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Yea, the sgs2 is to much pimped phone, not really usefull as phone, but i found him a use I have tg01 for longer time then sgs2 and i got used to it, so and i dislike android. My biggest hope is to see wp7 to tg01, but as i see, no can do sir, that's why i am selling the tg01 and buying iphone or Samsung Omnia7.
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Yeh hahah it is definitely a lot harder to understand how to mod/flash roms on Android then tg01!
The tg01 was a great device and served me well for 12 months. It also helped me adapt to big screen phones aswell, and a real bargain when I got it!
I still do prefer wm in 1 or 2 aspects to Android though!
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Yeh hahah it is definitely a lot harder to understand how to mod/flash roms on Android then tg01!
The tg01 was a great device and served me well for 12 months. It also helped me adapt to big screen phones aswell, and a real bargain when I got it!
I still do prefer wm in 1 or 2 aspects to Android though!
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The number of apps on android is huge, but the quality of the apps for windows mobile is much more impressive, at least i think so. Android software seems very fragmented, no standards, windows mobile and most of the apps for it are easy to navigate due to the basic interface.
But i feel now for me is the time to move to android, apps are entering the market every day, and they are updated quite often, its a difficult decision to sell my TG01.
dont bother with the iphone there a waste of money and space i suppose the iphone4 aint that bad but i like windows mobile personally because theres so much to personalise and do on them its endless. also android and iphone apps are cheasy and pointless windows mobile is a clear winner. if i was you id go with a htc hd2. android, wp7 and wm6.5 are all available on the hd2. meanwhile keep a tg01 just in case a mirracle happends and we get a exelent clean rom
Miracle i wait but hope is losing slowlly the fack i still have is the wp7 next phone will definetlly have wp7 on it, i had 2 HTC HD2 but i dislike HTC soo badlly, i had for a short period a lot of HTC's first HTC HD2 i got when it got in sale and i had miserable 8-12 hours battery life time with allmost no use at all, screen is a lot worse on HD2 then on tg01 the capacitive screen doesn't mean much to me. I love phones all phones that aren't over-priced... iphone is one of them but i can get one very cheap, i need phone for music i have sgs2 as my app toy and thats more than enough if tg01 had 3,5mm jack i wouldn't sell it never!! Till he is dead or me
yeahh true. and yeahh if the tg01 had a 3.5mm headphone jack that would be quality. to be honnest theres nothing really thats caught my eye yet so im just hanging around with a tg01 with mirom 8cfc rom. just out of interest nikola what rom are you using on your tg01?
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The number of apps on android is huge, but the quality of the apps for windows mobile is much more impressive, at least i think so. Android software seems very fragmented, no standards, windows mobile and most of the apps for it are easy to navigate due to the basic interface.
But i feel now for me is the time to move to android, apps are entering the market every day, and they are updated quite often, its a difficult decision to sell my TG01.
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True. But now WM is dead there is no more personilization with new apps. I tried almost all wm main apps adwell. When I first got Android I was like wow! Things are similiar here, like HTC sense for android. . I'm always flashing latest versions etc. It's like WM. Only now I don't have to worry about optimizations (FREE RAM, ROM, BUGS ETC) , as sense is built for my desire s. With our tg01 sense roms there were always bugs with every Rom in sense. (E.g-we.never fixed the home button for touuchflo/sense 2.5)
The community also. HTC devices always have the best support here..
I don't really like non HTC android devices.. the roms don't have sensr, so flashing roms are just improvements not much visual or UI changes.
For example. Nikola, your sgs2 Rom, cm7, what real visual benifits do u have over stock? apart from adw launcher?This is why my sgs2 is on stock. The UI is more or less the same.
But on HTC sense, there is always a new version coming up very often, just like the new leaked sense 3.5 Rom.
Android is still a huge leap forward from WM / WP7 imo though
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jonnyhall1bmx1 said:
yeahh true. and yeahh if the tg01 had a 3.5mm headphone jack that would be quality. to be honnest theres nothing really thats caught my eye yet so im just hanging around with a tg01 with mirom 8cfc rom. just out of interest nikola what rom are you using on your tg01?
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The same, have tryed the fxdj lattest ROM it is good to, but i don't have money for SPB shell so i stick with sense
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For example. Nikola, your sgs2 Rom, cm7, what real visual benifits do u have over stock? apart from adw launcher?This is why my sgs2 is on stock. The UI is more or less the same.
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Well I forgot to change signature i have been using for a while a Sensation ROM by crysis it have the touch wiz and i have Metro UI launcher as well as SPB shell 1.1.0
So the Nokia N9 is a beautiful peace of kit and Meego looks nice, but how much better would some ice cream sandwich be on that thing?
How hackable will the N9 be? I guess the main thing is, will anyone have one? Seeing as its not being released in a lot of places I can see it being hard to get a hold of...
I think that the nokia n9 is a nice phone and I do not understand why nokia do not use Android for its smartphone
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I think that the nokia n9 is a nice phone and I do not understand why nokia do not use Android for its smartphone
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It's simple, because Nokia has chosen Windows Phone as it main mobile OS.
As to why Nokia pick Windows over Android, it's simple too. Microsoft needs a great hardware partner to win, and Nokia needs a decent OS to survive. They need each other, and this situation gave Nokia lot of say and control in their hardware and future Windows Phone development. While Android is great, Android doesn't need Nokia and Nokia wouldn't stand a chance in the already super crowded Android ecosystem.
But anyway, the N9/Lumia800 is definitely the most beautiful smartphone I have seen in the last few years. The button-less N9 makes an ideal candidate for ICS. However, it's too expensive at the moment...
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But anyway, the N9/Lumia800 is definitely the most beautiful smartphone I have seen in the last few years. The button-less N9 makes an ideal candidate for ICS. However, it's too expensive at the moment...
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I already own what for me is the most beautiful Android phone - Xperia Arc. Just bought N9 yesterday as I couldn't resist not owning such a beautiful loooooking device that is also getting rave reviews.
N9 is just not a good looking device, it feels so f'in right in the hand. The screen, the feel all feel perfectly balanced. It makes my Arc look like a POS. While I love MeeGo so far, I still have lot of learning but frankly, Android messed me up so much that I feel it's hard to survive with other mobile OS if you know to use Android well.
I hope some genius out there can get ICS running on this beauty. Or, I hope Samsung shamelessly copies Nokia design as they are famous copy-cats!
yeah, when i saw buttonless n9 i immediately think about ics, they are perfect for each orthers, i used to be nokia fan, hope sone dev can make isc run on n9
Nokia e7 is my dream machine. With android of course. Or w7 so It can get eventually get android
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I would be down for a Nokia N9 if there was a crew like CM that would try to port android on to it. By realistically I don't think that will happen, phone's not available in the US, CAN, or UK. And getting it off ebay is roughly $650, but I just might get it, sigh...
After reading up on the N9 I couldn't resist and got one. I had the Sony Arc as well and I been with Nokia until they messed up with the n97. But the N9 is another monster, really sleek design the OS is beautiful and colors on the screen really jumps. The black color looks really vivid and nice. I am now waiting for someone to hack android or can port android apps to the N9.
I would buy an n9 if someone ported ICS... just too nice a piece of kit to not own
Def a pretty phone. Android should really be present.
i will get n9, if someone port ics on it.
i'm working in high tech store in Italy and officially the N9 is not sold there, but we got one in the shop and is amazing; i really fell in love with that phone (you can never forget your first love )
i do want to buy it for myself, but what it bothers me is the lack of possible applications to install on the phone. an android porting on that device will be amazing.
is there a crazy guy that has tried an android porting on that device before?
also the original meego software looks pretty well and hands on runs smoothly and seems not having trouble at all, but i had only a quick 5 minutes test on the phone. what worries me is that the phone will left alone with no further support because it's the only one with meego software.
already done look at this video with meego operating 5 different OS search nokia on google and u will the link
Yeah I had SGS2 and got an N9 instead, mainly BECAUSE of the OS.
Android is slow on appswitching (at least the versions Ive run, where youd have to either exit the app, open task manager, then select from a list of icons, or you could hold the menubutton for a bit, then select an app from a list of icons).
ICS might be different, I have no idea how taskswitching is done on it.
However, I will say that the N9 rocks ass and it would be fun to dualboot ICS/Harmattan.
Also, to the above poster, its not allready done. A chinese fake version of the N9 with a 3.8" resistive touchscreen, dualsim and 1.3mp camera can, though. Also it comes with porn and talking tomcat. So theres that.
Just had to throw my hat into the ring. I am ridiculously tempted to purchase the N9. Damn thing is just too attractive.
I was really hoping for some community love but that may just be due to my HD2. Leo users have been Spoilt Rotten.
I see even a hint of android development and caution is out the window. Take my money.
Man I hope they boot leg the E7!
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Yeah I had SGS2 and got an N9 instead, mainly BECAUSE of the OS.
Android is slow on appswitching (at least the versions Ive run, where youd have to either exit the app, open task manager, then select from a list of icons, or you could hold the menubutton for a bit, then select an app from a list of icons).
ICS might be different, I have no idea how taskswitching is done on it.
However, I will say that the N9 rocks ass and it would be fun to dualboot ICS/Harmattan.
Also, to the above poster, its not allready done. A chinese fake version of the N9 with a 3.8" resistive touchscreen, dualsim and 1.3mp camera can, though. Also it comes with porn and talking tomcat. So theres that.
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In the mean time i got an N9 for christmas, and the MeeGo OS built in is working pretty good, ha some features that i really love, like completely unified address book and unified messaging system, which slows me to modify the device.
On the other side, the are really few apps developed for meego os, that really pushes me to switch to another OS...
Mmm hard choice...
Awerellwv I bring your attention to Alien Dalvik(google it I cant post links)
Running android apps at native speed seems to negate the lack of apps issue. Assuming it all works as planned.
I've convinced myself I want an N9. Possibly just because that Cyan model looks fantastic. I would really love to see ongoing android development though, Knowing the device would keep up with the times is a big deal.
Now to just find the right price. If you really want to switch phones(and you have a cyan N9) I would be interested.
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Awerellwv I bring your attention to Alien Dalvik(google it I cant post links)
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Definitely i will google a bit about him, thanks for the suggestion
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If you really want to switch phones(and you have a cyan N9) I would be interested.
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i have the cyan one in the shop, but i bought for myself the black one, which looks every day better and better. Have to admit, tough, that the cyan one looks gorgeus, i will suggest bo buy it if you don't plan to use covers for the phone.
White 64GB N9
I have had since a few days the latest white 64GB version of the N9 and I must say, it's quite an incredible device!
I can't even imagine why Nokia went the WP7 way (beside some fresh cash certainly paid by M$).
Of course, there are still some functions & details missing and some things to iron out with Meego (like with WP7), but it's a very stable and fast OS (I'm impressed how fast Opera is loading!). I must add that it's still loaded with the 10.2011.34 Harmattan version, the latest 20.2011.40 hasn't yet been released for this specific model.
I just love the 3 screens idea, especially the "running tasks" screen, where you have access to all of the running apps and can either switch to the wanted one or close it/them. Why is it so complicated for other OS's to implement such a simple and easily accessible task manager??
The only downside I can see is the lack of applications. Only the true Linux developers will continue porting apps to this wonderful smartphone, and if we could get android applications to run on it, it would be great. And when I say run on it, it's preferably run on Meego, using Alien Dalvik or whatever other way.
If this is not possible, of course dual booting or ICS alone would be a solution, although I like the fact we're running an almost pure Linux/Debian machine, with an interesting touchscreen interface.
Hopefully Nokia will keep reading all of the N9 dedicated forums and will keep a Meego (or whatever it will be named in the future) branch of handsets, and of course supporting it/us.