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I was a bit cocky after my case swap last week. So me being my cheap self went on ebay this week and bought an extended battery. Here is the link. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190138594210&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=009
Battery came 5 days later. Black door.... Non rounded and boxy... I dealt with it on my 8125 so i didnt mind. At first i wasnt impressed cause im like wtf.. where is my self portrait mirror. Im assuming it came off during shipping... I could have been anal about it but i had some locktite super glue and put it back on... looks like new.. I did my battery door "Missing Antenna Plug" door mod as i suggested in another post =P. I took my old battery door off and took the battery out... good by slim and hello brick.... new battery fit in fine ... new door snapped in fine... Now for the test drive. It arrived with about a 60% charge. I drained leaving wifi on and streaming music from pc... took a long ass time. I charged it with the 1A stock charger... took a while but it eventually charged in a little less than three hours while off. I work 8 hr shifts at night so im on my phone alot my stock battery normally gets me to about 40% during the night. Thats playing music, Surfing on EDGE with two maybe three bars... Trust me its struggling to get that many. So i know the antenna is using alotta juice. I have it checking hotmail every 15 Minutes. I text about 400 messages a night and i use TomTom to dodge traffic the morning after work with full brightness and bluetooth on... I put in this battery i made it through my shift under the same senario and made it to 90% im thinking the battery maybe is misreporting and its going to drop off to 0 or not even make it to it before it cuts off like when i bought a cheap extended battery for my 8125 (replaced with same brand and worked fine) I streamed mobitv for about two hours on the way home from work over 3G. And it dropped to 70%. Im like the damn thing wont die. I cranked up the wifi and turned on mobitv thinking this will seal its fate. How about it took 7 hours to kill it from that point. I didnt evaluate any talk time on it cause of my hours and no one called but to me thats impressive... I would think if i didnt try to kill it on purpose it would have game me close to a 3 days of runtime. Its a 3.7v 2800mAh Lithium Ion made in Taiwan by Celxpert Energy. Any disatisfied people please post their experience with their extended battery.
whoa! nice! i think i may have to buy me one of those thank you for your review and the extreme testing hehe
I am going to more testing in the next few days. Ill be sure to keep everyone intrested posted. I really think under normal piddling around and texting and listening to music over bluetooth if i only made it to 90% on the first day. I could prob very easy get more than my projected 3 days.Its the morning of the seconday im sitting at 90% again. Most of my drain is at work. And if im actually working really hard.. Im more likely in an area where its searching for signal that was my main drain but my on its first day I cant say that i held back any i gave it hell during my shift on the way home and killing it just for the hell of it to deep cycle the battery. It doesnt get warm during charging or during use. I would assume it pretty solid... The next few days will tell.
price is really good, even better than the $26.99 (includ ship) I paid for a 3000mAh. The back door is black not silver/grey though.
I upgrade my 8525 case to a dopod replacement. My phone is completely black so the black battery door was what the doctor ordered.
Yesterday i got off work at 90%. It was probably actually low 80s because it hit 80 an hour or so after getting home. Today i got off work im at 60%. I had 2 calls totaling 58 minutes... and did some light browsing on EDGE.Bluetooth has been on since the full charge yesterday. And it has been checking hotmail every 15 minutes. I think its probably been hunting for a signal I have full 3G at home and 2-3 bars EDGE at work if i carry it in my shirt pocket. If im carrying in my case on my hip its prob searching for service under the gut. but Ive never been able to get two days with stock. The test continues..
I dont see how people can carry a brick that big
Day three down to 20% did the usual surfing 2-3 bars weak reception on EDGE. Bluetooth has been on since first day. One call today 35 min. TomTom 6 for about 5 hours today... Alot of city driving. Bought the audio dongle so ive been playing music in my car so tack on about 4 hours of that. and you have an almost dead battery. Discharge has even out. Its pretty steady.. no sudden drops in percentage like some other cheaper batteries. It has my my thumb and two big toes up!
Very tempting to try it. Though, my problem is that I have a Brodit car charger and of course it won't fit with the extra bulk.
Has anyone tried this baby yet? If You have then please some feedback.
I bought one a couple months ago when i bought my hermes, it does add a good centimeter to the phone's thickness, but i think it's oh so worth it.
i.e. - Regular battery with regular use(internet here and there, no music) I *might* get a day and a half before it's completely dead.
3000mAh battery - With regular to heavy use after 3 days i still usually have around 40% battery left. Best thing I've ever bought for my phone, except for maybe my jawbone 2 headset ^^
oh speaking of that, with a bluetooth headset synched to my hermes with the regular battery it's dead in a day, whereas again, I avg about 3 or so with the 3000mAh with the bluetooth headset synched all day everyday.
its 2X of the standard 1350mAH
Hi, I have the 1500mAh Li-POL, exactly same size as the original.
I can't really say if the duration is really better than the original one when new. I had a different ROM/Radio and have no intention to get back to WM5 just to test.
By the way, lately I observed a faster drain (anyway more than 1 day with normal use) but might be related to a Radio downgrade carried by an installed ROM. I hope I can give new (and more positive) info when I upgrade the Radio again.
Sounds good to me, i will get one sometime, if i can get double the battery life out of my hermes, i will be happy
how much does it (3000mAh battery) cost ?
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how much does it (3000mAh battery) cost ?
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£14 from a quick search on ebay UK. No sign of a 3000mAh on Dealextreme yet though (99% cheapest supplier!)
I have a 2800mah I've been using for a while, def improvement on the stock one but I'd quite like a second high capacity one to keep in my pocket.
best $16 spent EVER!! i love my battery it takes me whole 3days to kill it including playing MP3's, Internet, Texting and camera. GET IT YOU WON'T BE SORRY
is there a risk with using non genuine batteries?
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is there a risk with using non genuine batteries?
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I picked up one of the 3000mAh extended batteries several months back after my original stopped holding much charge. Great battery life on the new one, but after a while I started noticing odd issues popping up. The LED would show yellow instead of green, and I'd get the red charging failure led every so often.
Now those could have just been the age of the phone (almost 3 years old now with heavy and abusive use), but the main issue I know was the extended battery was the unit randomly started powering off. Often this would happen if I had the phone in my pocket, so I thought maybe the battery wasn't making a solid connection. Then it started happening when I had it laying on a table. I may have just gotten a bad battery out of the bunch, but it definitely doesn't seem up to snuff compared to OEM.
I've since gone back to using my original battery with it sitting on the charger almost all day. Never powers off randomly anymore. Just my 2 cents.
Edit: I should note that if you go through a reputable battery seller you shouldn't have any issues. I went through ebay and picked up the extended battery + cover + car charger for ~$15. I wasn't expecting much from the battery
Hi all, did a search using keyword "batteries" and suprisingly found nothing. Question: Does anyone know of an extended battery that allows you to keep the oem cover? I got a slightly extended for my pro (1800mAh) and it fit great , giving me just enough more juice. My HD arrives this week and I know the battery prolly will have a tough time going a full day. I've seen the usual assortment of super batts that take a custom bulging cover. I'd prefer to avoid the bulge.
Mugen Power makes one but it's been out-of-stock for a while... the easiest solution (at least for me) was to get a second battery.
If it's any consolation, once you go through several charge / deplete cycles with your new battery, you can expect to go through a whole day without much trouble.
Touch HD actually has the best battery life on the PDA market, surpassing even the menacing iPhone by more then 15%!
You can also find very useful apps that will help save the power, such as Lumos, that will automatically adjust your screen brightness depending on ambient lighting. And I can confirm it makes a lot of difference when it comes to battery life.
Also, Mugen sells batteries for HD that have same dimensions as stock battery, but with slightly larger capacity. I bought one for 30$, and I easily go over 3 days with these 2 batteries.
Thanks for the feedback guys. It's great to hear that the HD actually has good battery life using the oem. I know for the first few days or weeks I'll probably be using the crap out of it just because I'll be getting used to it and it will be to awesome to put down I'll see how it goes and maybe check into muygen if they might have something that fits as is, into the back. Really getting hyped about this HD.
You can also consider a power station which slots in the mini usb slot but makes your touch hd longer but you don't get the bulge.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BATTERY-POWER...0|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1308|301:1|293:1|294:50
You get approx 2.33x the juice.
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Mugen Power makes one but it's been out-of-stock for a while... the easiest solution (at least for me) was to get a second battery.
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Hmm, that's interesting - I ordered mine about a week ago, they told me they were "out of stock" until the 25th May, but yet they shipped two days after I got that email and I received my 1500mha battery yesterday!
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/product_info.php?cPath=108_135&products_id=534
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Hmm, that's interesting - I ordered mine about a week ago, they told me they were "out of stock" until the 25th May, but yet they shipped two days after I got that email and I received my 1500mha battery yesterday!
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/product_info.php?cPath=108_135&products_id=534
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Just ordered, and mine was out until june 15th!!
Are you satisfied with yours?
I go easily 2-3 days on my HD between recharges and normal usages. A few calls and texts and a spot of internet browsing.
Do you guys watch video's or something to make the battery life so poor?
Well, after using my HD with the oem battery for the past 3 weeks I must say I am very pleasently surprised that it is working very well for me. I can go a full day with usually a bit left over. I am still using it pretty heavily, just because I can't put the dang thing down. Lol. I'm not sure I'd want to pay to much for a 1500mAh as it seems like not enough of an increase in power reserve. I'm happy with the oem.
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I go easily 2-3 days on my HD between recharges and normal usages. A few calls and texts and a spot of internet browsing.
Do you guys watch video's or something to make the battery life so poor?
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i don't even know how you accomplish that...my screen is turned down to the lowest brightness...the 3g radio is off, i don't use wifi or play music or video...and i get a day to a day & a half @ best.
Never, ever seen 3 days
I ordered a battery from Mugen.
I received it on friday, but the phone will not charge it.
charge light turns on for about 15 sec the shots off.
when looking at the battery status it shows battery unknown.
I have emailed Mugen about this no reply as of yet.
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i don't even know how you accomplish that...my screen is turned down to the lowest brightness...the 3g radio is off, i don't use wifi or play music or video...and i get a day to a day & a half @ best.
Never, ever seen 3 days
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I charged my HD over night two days ago, so now I'm clocking 2.5 days from last recharge, and it's on 50%. Couple of calls and SMS, 10-15 mins of GPRS internet each day and about 20 mins of GPS in Google maps.
That's the way to do it.
I'm on Dutty's 3.7. I make a few calls, send a few sms's, browse the internet a bit and play a bit of freecell most days. Last time I charged up was Thursday morning, yesterday at 2pm it hit 14%.
Maybe you live a a poor reception area? I've noticed my battery life gets very poor if I'm in the middle of nowhere, far from any cell towers.
I usually listen to internet radio and surf to and from work, make a couple of phone calls, have a couple of mail accounts set up. I usually don't run out of battery on a normal day, but if I have to go somewhere special I might listen to internet radio more and surf more and the battery will run out. And if I play any games, Xtrakt or Need for Speed Under Cover, or watch videos I can kiss the battery good bye.
It's a smart phone, so we use it to do all the cool things that a smart phone enables us to do. Sure its gonna drain the battery more and usually it's worth it, but you can fault us for trying to get more out of our devices
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Just ordered, and mine was out until june 15th!!
Are you satisfied with yours?
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yep - been using the 1500mha Mugen for about 2 wks now and it seems pretty good - on avg. get about 10% more charge remaining at the end of the day vs. the stock battery. Work day = a bit of web surfing via HSPDA / GPRS, a bit of gaming, 1hr or so of music and a couple of SMS's and maybe calls. Usually still have around 60% charge around midnight. I do use S2U2 with Suspend Power = ON option.
I've noticed that Windows Mobile phones (in general not just Touch HD) seem to have really poor battery life in areas with poor / no reception - in these areas, it's best to either switch to flight mode OR force GSM only mode on.
I'm fairly disappointed in this battery and will start gathering benchmark metrics,asking others to do the same for more data points and what does and doesnt work to increase.
Currently I have disabled sense ui and reduced widgets down to hardly anything, just a search and taskiller. I seem to get around 10 hours with moderate usage (occasional short call, several texts and quick searches, etc) letting android download background data and check google accounts email, contacts and calendar (this really is the power of the phone, cloud syncing pim). Weather, stocks and other "widgetable" apps are refreshed only on demand.
It's worse than I thought. I went less than 6 hours today with only one quick call (<1 minute) a few youtube clips and 2 texts. I noticed the phone was pretty warm in my pocket compared to my HTC touch (it actually felt cold sometimes if left on the desk) and a few times I noticed that there would be no radio "bars" but most of the time I had 3-4 out of 5 bars (I never have recetpion problems where I am) leading me to believe that something goofy is going on with the radio. I am going to reset since my testing is over today!!
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It's worse than I thought. I went less than 6 hours today with only one quick call (<1 minute) a few youtube clips and 2 texts. I noticed the phone was pretty warm in my pocket compared to my HTC touch (it actually felt cold sometimes if left on the desk) and a few times I noticed that there would be no radio "bars" but most of the time I had 3-4 out of 5 bars (I never have recetpion problems where I am) leading me to believe that something goofy is going on with the radio. I am going to reset since my testing is over today!!
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Whit what tool did you test it?
It's still to early to tell but I'm seeing decent battery life. Better than my pre but not great. Certainly acceptable considering I'm playing with it all the time since its new.
i also am seeing bad battery life.. i had court yesterday, and had it OFF most of the day.. and it was dead last night, i turned it on after court.
anyone notice this:
the website has extra batteries
http://nextelonline.nextel.com/NASA...oryID=BSH5110&topPageNumber=0&subPageNumber=0
they say 1340mAh. mine says 1500mAh
do you guys think thats a mistake?
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I just looked at battery usage in Spare Parts at various parts of the day and input this manually to minitab. No special app or anything.
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anyone notice this:
the website has extra batteries
http://nextelonline.nextel.com/NASA...oryID=BSH5110&topPageNumber=0&subPageNumber=0
they say 1340mAh. mine says 1500mAh
do you guys think thats a mistake?
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I read that the European version has a small battery, but because it is GSM is supposed to have as good or better battery life than the CDMA version.
The GSM Hero has a 1350mAh battery, and battery life is reportedly slightly better than the Sprint Hero even with its more capacious battery. As you correctly surmise, this is due to the Sprint being a CDMA network.
Why Sprint would want to sell a lower capacity battery though, I've no idea!
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Dave
my battery didn't last a full day either
I am into my 3rd day of usage (on single charge) on my week old hero.
Running on 2G network, turning off all data connectivity, manual reduce screen brightness, minimum vibrate and sound notifications for typing and applications
I have a Sprint Hero and the battery is at half strength not too long after lunch. But since I've only had the phone 3 days, I probably am playing with it more than usual. I'm guessing Seido will come out with an extended life, same size battery. They did with my Touch and it was great! It was very handy having a spare battery when I was out for a long period of time, away from anywhere to charge the phone.
Im also into my 3rd day of usage, and been off the charger all day today... had a couple calls, couple texts, bout 3hrs worth of browsing/facebook/twitter... down to about 60% as we speak so i know its a vast improvement from my tp... hell, 2 hrs of anything on that phone and it would be below 50 percent before the day even really started lol...
There are a number of things you can do to help improve battery life.
1 ) Turn off Wifi autodiscovery. You can always turn it on again if you are at a spot where you know you have a good wifi connection and plan on using it. My Hero was constantly telling me about wifi hotspots that I was driving past. I've found a number of widgets that will turn wifi on with one push.
2 ) Set Twitter, Facebook, and or email to check for updates less often than stock. I don't remember exactly what mine was set to at the beginning, but one of the first things I did was set Twitter to every four hours and Facebook to every two hours.
3 ) GPS is also a battery eater. Turn it off unless you need it.
4 ) Whenever you get a new phone, you ( well, I do, I'm just assuming that you do, too. ) use the heck out of it, playing with settings, seeing what all the programs do, downloading apps and games. Battery life should pick up as the newness wears off.
If you guys want a little more juice, Seidio just came out with a 1750mAh battery that fits in your device's existing battery space and doesn't require a replacement door.
http://www.seidioonline.com/product-p/basi17htp2.htm
Problem is, whats the point of having a phone designed to have al lthese features if you can't use them as the battery just dies.
My T-Mobile G2 / Hero dies so quick it's annoying.
Yes I've been doing lots of stuff with it this week but to have to turn of 3G to save battery is a laugh. My old Sony phone uses 3G etc and it can last a good two days without charge.
I've kept my 3G on but have kept all the updates to minimum amounts or to be done manually.
Background data also turned off most of the time but again, if it's required, then we shouldn't have to turn off.
It's about time batteries were developed or the companies actually provide longer life ones.
All the testers reviewes keep going on about how great the battery life is doing all these things and stuff, what batteries have they been given to use compared to the rest of us I wonder?
Hi everyone,
Does anyone have any review about this battery on LG Optimus 7? The 1700 mAh is also welcome.
My original battery is poor compared to my wife's Samsung Galaxy S with almost similar operation (WiFi, HSDPA/3G, email sync. etc.)
I have a good experience wit Mugen battery from past with Sony Ericsson Xperia X1.
Hayenadeblue
While I was looking for a bigger battery
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...-for-lg-optimus-7-e900-with-battery-door.html
that looks a little too big for me. If I was getting the titan, I might consider it, but one of the things I like about this phone is the size.
I was thinking about just getting a second battery to carry with me as nessasary.
Thanks Etaduck for your comment,
I don't mind the size. But I need to hear something about performance. Quite jealous with my wife with her Galaxy S that can stand for about 2 days.
BTW, in my E900, I've already disabled the location service, bluetooth, feedback, internet sharing, set the screen brightness to the lowest, and enabled the battery saver. I was initially on open carrier firmware with the similar battery issue, then change it to vodafone firmware because of internet sharing and 7740 update.
Kind regards,
hayenadeblue
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Thanks Etaduck for your comment,
I don't mind the size. But I need to hear something about performance. Quite jealous with my wife with her Galaxy S that can stand for about 2 days.
BTW, in my E900, I've already disabled the location service, bluetooth, feedback, internet sharing, set the screen brightness to the lowest, and enabled the battery saver. I was initially on open carrier firmware with the similar battery issue, then change it to vodafone firmware because of internet sharing and 7740 update.
Kind regards,
hayenadeblue
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just wondering, how long do you get out of it now?
with light usage for me I get around 2 days, sometimes more but rarely, but if i'm using it a lot on the internet seem to get a day to a day and a half, what surprised me after reading on this forum was to completly run down battery, then plug phone in but don't turn it on, start phone, after 4 seconds put the charger on, seemed to help with me, no idea why however
before I did that it would last around half a day, maybe its my imagination, but it seemed to help.
I'm also considering getting the smaller mugen battery when I have some spare money, the huuuge one just seems to disfigure the phone too much.
After coming from a Diamond, I really loved HTC's extended battery cover, shame theres nothing like it for this handset.
Hi Stead,
I've got about 16 hours so far. Around 5 am to around 9 pm at night. I've tried your method but there are no improvement at all.
I hope that the option to togle between 3g/HSDPA and EDGE/GPRS in 8107 update will solve this battery issue for me at least.
Update: With 8107 update, limited data to edge, still with standard battery, I could get 1 day 14 hours roughly 2 daytime and 1 night. Exchange, gmail, live, nextgen reader, accuweather running in background. Hook to wifi at home and office bcoz talkmobile edge is the worst here.
I wanted to buy it but after mango update in november battery lasts longer.... i use it for my job, wich is talk, send message, mms, gmail and hotmail acc, and i got 3.5-4 days with around 3 h talking during those days, about 50 msg-s..
I do not use 3g if i am not using internet, which is rarely, screen is automatic, feedback off,location on,bluetooth off, wireless off,gmail is set to 1 hour.I dont overcharge battery, and never charge over usb....never less then 3.5 days.If i use 3g its 2 days top..
I ordered the 1700 battery, its not a huge increase, but it easily lasts a day with heavy usage now, tend to get around 2 days with moderate usage?
Haven't tried turning 3g off yet, so may give that ago after reading djuricn's post!
I've also noticed giving it little charges a lot seems to make the phone only last a day at best, I try to leave it run down, and fully charge it whenever possible.
One final thing, using zune with a usb3 port seems to charge just as fast as the wall charger around an hour for me, and on the pc using zune with a normal usb2 port seems to charge quicker aroud 2 hours, if zune is closed it seemingly takes a full day to charge via usb
Is the extra cost for Mugen Power battery worth it? If you look on Amazon you see batteries for way less....
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Is the extra cost for Mugen Power battery worth it? If you look on Amazon you see batteries for way less....
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my personal experiance is that the mugen ones are of better quality, although I think its hit and miss with the cheaper ones, I've bought cheaper replacement batteries and I always find they become unusable within a year and charge times rapidily decline, some of my friends have been unlucky enough to have a bettery last a mere 2 months before failing completly.
Think of batteries you buy, you buy the branded ones for more and they tend to last, you buy the cheapest ones and they never do, same with these batteries imo
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my personal experiance is that the mugen ones are of better quality, although I think its hit and miss with the cheaper ones, I've bought cheaper replacement batteries and I always find they become unusable within a year and charge times rapidily decline, some of my friends have been unlucky enough to have a bettery last a mere 2 months before failing completly.
Think of batteries you buy, you buy the branded ones for more and they tend to last, you buy the cheapest ones and they never do, same with these batteries imo
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Totally agree with you, it is better to get branded batteries from official sources with extra warranty and customer support care, etc; definitely worth the extra cost on Mugen. And performance is worth it too.
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for LG Optimus 7 they also have smaller battery that doesnt require extra sized backdoor. It is 1700mAh and it is still much more powerful than the factory battery:
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...h-extended-battery-for-lg-optimus-7-e900.html
Do not forget Mugen Facebook discount for that
This battery is cool!
Managed to get 4 days out of my phone with light use, just sms and phone calls
Its not how i normally use my phone, but if i'm going to be out for a few days without access to a charger I now do this.
turn off data connection, change connection speed for 3g to edge, i'm honestly surprised the difference this made, I just turned on data connection for the few minutes i check stuff on the internet and turn it back off.
Like i said, I normally don't do this, but if I know I won't be able to charge it for a few days this is for me until I give in and buy the bulky extended battery
I had ordered a Battery-Pack from the Mugen-Shop (link in the first article), but it was never delivered (over 2 months of waiting). The trader dosen't care, says i have to prove i never had recieved the parcel and PayPal says, it's to late to return my money.
So, take care! Maybe the batteries are top, the customer-service is flop. They were shiped from China, so the custom control on the border is the next problem.