Teksoft Fingertouch, used or not used? - Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development

I'm curious as to how many people are using the Teksoft Fingertouch keyboard donated by Teksoft to the Athena Project. I've since abandoned by hardware keyboard and use Fingertouch only.
Anyone else using this only or using something else?

ltxda said:
I'm curious as to how many people are using the Teksoft Fingertouch keyboard donated by Teksoft to the Athena Project. I've since abandoned by hardware keyboard and use Fingertouch only.
Anyone else using this only or using something else?
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hehe im also a dump the hardware for fingertouch person.

The thing I hate about the onscreen keyboard is that whenever you tap the screen to enter data,
it automatically pops up. 95% of the time I use the hardware Keyboard, and if I'm filling at a large
form with many fields, the darn KB app pops up every frick'n time and I have to close it to continue.
Is there a hack/mod, that turns off this auto pop-up setting? Its really
getting on my nerves.

Madhadder said:
The thing I hate about the onscreen keyboard is that whenever you tap the screen to enter data,
it automatically pops up. 95% of the time I use the hardware Keyboard, and if I'm filling at a large
form with many fields, the darn KB app pops up every frick'n time and I have to close it to continue.
Is there a hack/mod, that turns off this auto pop-up setting? Its really
getting on my nerves.
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get a null SIP (SIP = onscreen keyb)
http://phm.lu has one, though i didn't try it on wm6

Hi, i removed the HW-keyboard too.
The Fingertouch-Soft-KB looks great but it's a little too big.
It lets only 1/5 of the screen show if selected pad 5.
If selected pad 1 still only 1/3 of the screen shown.
This isn't much. Is it somehow possible to make the keyboard smaller?
Now i use the standard Keyboard with big keys and gestures and this is still a little too small for fingertouching, but now i see what i'm typing.
Any app which has size between Fingertouch and standard keyboard i think will be better.

PAPPL said:
Hi, i removed the HW-keyboard too.
The Fingertouch-Soft-KB looks great but it's a little too big.
It lets only 1/5 of the screen show if selected pad 5.
If selected pad 1 still only 1/3 of the screen shown.
This isn't much. Is it somehow possible to make the keyboard smaller?
Now i use the standard Keyboard with big keys and gestures and this is still a little too small for fingertouching, but now i see what i'm typing.
Any app which has size between Fingertouch and standard keyboard i think will be better.
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Fingertouch can be skinned. I never did it as one of the guys at Fingertouch took care of this for us. If you visit their forum I'm sure they can help out or maybe there are instructions...hell they may even do it for you if you tell them you're using their product on your Athena. They donated, for free, their full version keyboard to help out. These guys are great. Their forum is also very helpful and they respond quickly based on my experience. I'm sure Fingertouch can be skinned/modified to be exactly what you want.

http://teksoftco.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3656#3656
Thanks, i didn't know FT-KB isn't freeware.
Great to have it inside the ROM.

I use it in combination with the hardware keyboard. I tend to find the HW keyboard easier to use when 'stationary' i.e. sat at my desk. But when oot and aboot, its easier to use the fingertouch.
I did alter the registry so that it uses keyboard '1' rather than '5' as its easier to use. Just a shame there's no £ key and the \ key isn't a shift key on board 1.

Digital.Diablo said:
I use it in combination with the hardware keyboard. I tend to find the HW keyboard easier to use when 'stationary' i.e. sat at my desk. But when oot and aboot, its easier to use the fingertouch.
I did alter the registry so that it uses keyboard '1' rather than '5' as its easier to use. Just a shame there's no £ key and the \ key isn't a shift key on board 1.
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Yea I use the regular mode. FYI, you can set this in the options for the product, no need for the registry hack. ;-p

I use it alot but the lack of £ sign is driving me nuts ! that is when I resort to the HW keyboard as it is quicker than switching to the WM soft keyboard

ice_coffee said:
I use it alot but the lack of £ sign is driving me nuts ! that is when I resort to the HW keyboard as it is quicker than switching to the WM soft keyboard
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I think that can be customized within the template. Check out their forum, I'm sure there is a solution.

ltxda said:
I think that can be customized within the template. Check out their forum, I'm sure there is a solution.
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thanks, I will check it out.

I hardly use my HW keyboard now these days. It is a lot easier with FT but I do agree with some of the comments where sometime you can't see what you are typing. However, I have learned to live with it.

Thanks everyone and keep it coming. This type of feedback is useful for future ROMs.

lpsi2000 said:
I hardly use my HW keyboard now these days. It is a lot easier with FT but I do agree with some of the comments where sometime you can't see what you are typing. However, I have learned to live with it.
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ditto for me on issue of not being able to see what I an typing. I an just not that good of a typist!

graybip said:
ditto for me on issue of not being able to see what I an typing. I an just not that good of a typist!
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I'm hoping they resolve this issue as well. I've learned to work around this limitation but it does get annoying sometimes when I'm in a hurry.

Teksoft Appears Out Of Business? Try Yourself.
ltxda said:
I'm hoping they resolve this issue as well. I've learned to work around this limitation but it does get annoying sometimes when I'm in a hurry.
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I don't know if any of you are aware and it literally happened overnight but TEKSOfT APPEARS OUT OF BUSINESS and they were in business last Friday. How do I know this? SAT, SUN, AND MONDAY their website was compleltely down and yesterday and today, do the search yourself or type in their exact url you will get immediately redirected to a weird website and then click on TEKSOFT on the top right corner and it will say no results found. I hope I am wrong here but have tried directly from my device the Polaris to purchase from their online shop and it goes directly to some unknown website. kevin

kevinrirvine said:
I don't know if any of you are aware and it literally happened overnight but TEKSOfT APPEARS OUT OF BUSINESS and they were in business last Friday. How do I know this? SAT, SUN, AND MONDAY their website was compleltely down and yesterday and today, do the search yourself or type in their exact url you will get immediately redirected to a weird website and then click on TEKSOFT on the top right corner and it will say no results found. I hope I am wrong here but have tried directly from my device the Polaris to purchase from their online shop and it goes directly to some unknown website. kevin
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Looks like maybe someone forgot to register the domain as it expired and maybe someone else snatched it up. The WHOIS expiration shows 01/10/2008, unless i'm reading the date below wrong. Unless they did go out of business and just let the domain expire.
Some of the WHOIS info
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Domain Name: teksoftco.com
Registrar: AAAQ.COM
Whois Server: whois.aaaq.com
Referral URL: http://www.aaaq.com
Name Server: ns.nozonenet.com
Name Server: ns2.nozonenet.com
Status: ACTIVE
Updated Date: 2007-02-05
Creation Date: 2006-01-10
Expiration Date: 2008-01-10
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Much as I don't own an Athena anymore, the Fingertouch keyboard made a great difference and I never used the hardware keyboard. For an alternative I used a bluetooth keyboard. Without Fingertouch and the black ROM in general I would've got rid of my Athena much sooner.

I enjoy my hardware bluetooth keyboard a lot, as I work with translations and need to type out big bodies of text. As my fingers are accustomed to hardware keyboards I guess I am the conservative old goat who says "software keyboard?!?!?!"

Related

SMSing with 1 hand..

I recently got the JasJam and wanted to know is it possible for a developer to be able to write a code for a '123' keyboard with the 'abc' letters on each number to appear when typing an sms with T9 functionality.
Your replies would be much appreciated..
Thanx.
lol, I would probably be prepared to be flamed for this...
And we wonder why people get in accidents...
I've never seen anything like what you are asking for though, and I think that it would still be very hard to do something like this while driving since it's a touch screen...
actually i think it'd be easier if somebody could write a code to modify the normal keyboard to accept sliding...
that is, if you poke at G then move to H and release at H, H gets typed not G
this makes things very easy to use 1 handed as you can keep your finger pressed to verify what is being typed before actually typing the letter
ahfunaki said:
lol, I would probably be prepared to be flamed for this...
And we wonder why people get in accidents...
I've never seen anything like what you are asking for though, and I think that it would still be very hard to do something like this while driving since it's a touch screen...
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no he has a valid point... trying to type in porn websites on your hermes while you're masturbating is quite tricky.
also... yes it is possible to do; if MS have released docs on writing your own keyboard map, then it could easily be done
you could try the phone pad cab in the ftp under tools and programs, it gives you the option to have the onscreen keyboard work like a normal phone pad with t9 predictive text
Well, there is an application that I use for one hand SMS. I don't actually use it when I am driving, however I do use it when I don't feel like sliding the keyboard. The app is "Tengo Thumb" and below is the URL and it is not free.
http://www.tengo.net/
Thanx for the replies. Will try TenGo and let u know how it works out..
Baileys said:
you could try the phone pad cab in the ftp under tools and programs, it gives you the option to have the onscreen keyboard work like a normal phone pad with t9 predictive text
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phone cab is the way to go. Install it, then soft reset and select it instead of the on screen keyboard and you tap on your screen as if its a phone with a keypad.
Pls excuse me..
I am having diffculties locating the Phone cab file..
Pls help.
Installed TengoThumb but it takes time getting used to.
Thanx in advanced.
Found it.
Thanx for your help gents.
Here's the link incase anyone else was looking for it.
Code:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Hermes/Tools_and_Programs/Phone%20Pad%20-%20English%20Only.CAB
@kastro,
I have never used Phone-Pad so I am interested on you thought between the two products.
The reason why i ask this is because it is difficult to type an sms when driving...
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In the this country it is not only difficult but illegal! I nearly got killed by somebody using his phone while driving.
for those that don't know after installing the phone cab and restarting you have to select the onscreen keyboard and then press the arrow next the keyboard button
as for how it works, I find it pretty responsive, the t9 works as well as other phones, although if your a fast typer you can outpace the phone sometimes, I didn't find it a big problem.
the only real negatives I found was leaving fingerprints on half myscreen and the phone pad is a lot taller than the normal keyboard
OMg txting while driving
@lpsi2000
Phone pad is much better and more practical to use. It's exactly like using a normal keypad to type T9 sms's - it's actually even better..
The driving was simply an example to 1 hand typing. I started the thread cos there was no possible way i could continue with the Jasjam using its current features to type out an SMS.
And yes, it is illegal in my country... But who obeys the laws at the best of times?
i use the full keyboard while driving yes yes, flame me now...
but actually it works out kinda better, as i can put both hands on the wheel while holding the keyboard and still keep my eyes on the road...
WARNING, do not try this at home, this is a stunt performed by a professional with years and years of texting experience. I will not be held responsible for your inability to multi-task
@kastro,
Thanks for the tip and I will give it a shot.
@shogunmark,
Using the full keyboard while driving is definitely not an easy task especially at night. I agree with the warning, please do not try at home.

ftouchflo Dunce

I feel like a doofus. I have the cool PK 3.0 Black Dual ROM on my x7500. It's great, but I can't get ftouchflo to work. When I click on it in programs, a prompt appears that it is already running. But, for example, sliding my finger on messages just highlights a bunch of messages, instead of scrolling. I'm sure I'm missing something simple but I don't know what it is. I've searched but haven't found anyone else with this issue. (I haven't changed the configuration file so it is still in its virginal state). Any guidance would be appreciated. Tx. Jeff
Follow-up
Follow up. I think I was unclear on the concept. Even with ftouchflo, you can't use touchflo in contacts or email. That is what I was trying to do. touchflo does work in IE, for example.
I realize there are solutions such as iContacts or ssContacts for scrolling in contacts. Not sure there is a corresponding solution for email.
I am using the trial version of Touch Commander, and may try the touch cube.
Anyway, thought I should follow up on my own question. Thanks.
GenghisKhent said:
Follow up. I think I was unclear on the concept. Even with ftouchflo, you can't use touchflo in contacts or email. That is what I was trying to do. touchflo does work in IE, for example.
I realize there are solutions such as iContacts or ssContacts for scrolling in contacts. Not sure there is a corresponding solution for email.
I am using the trial version of Touch Commander, and may try the touch cube.
Anyway, thought I should follow up on my own question. Thanks.
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Mine works work email without any problem. I can swipe my finger to scroll the directory of mail in an account as well as scroll a mail while reading it.
I use fun contact so I set it as an exception program. Fun Contact is the best iphone like contact that I know of, although it is not free.
Thanks eaglesteve. You're right. My email works. Now I feel like a triple doofus. I guess I didn't properly understand how ftouchflo works.
Fun Contacts is a nice program. Thanks for the recommendation. Does it only work in portrait mode though?
Well, on to turning my x7500 into an iPhone, GUI-wise only of course.
GenghisKhent said:
Thanks eaglesteve. You're right. My email works. Now I feel like a triple doofus. I guess I didn't properly understand how ftouchflo works.
Fun Contacts is a nice program. Thanks for the recommendation. Does it only work in portrait mode though?
Well, on to turning my x7500 into an iPhone, GUI-wise only of course.
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I've never tried using it in landscape mode before. I think it does not make sense to use it in landscape mode because you want to see as many contact as possible. There is no reason to have wider screen for each of the contact because the width is already enough in portrait mode. I think it would be wise for the software designer to automatically switch to portait mode even if the user is in landscape mode.
Duh ... that makes sense why Fun Contacts is portrait mode onlyl.

Default Keyboard during Phone Usage?

All,
Can anyone provide me the tweak or registry key to allow for me to continue typing on the thumb board while on a phone call? (Presently while talking, the system defaults to the number pad while talking)
Any help would be appreciated. I have seen a couple threads about changing the default keyboard config, but not for this one directly.
Thanks,
Bob
bob_beringer said:
All,
Can anyone provide me the tweak or registry key to allow for me to continue typing on the thumb board while on a phone call? (Presently while talking, the system defaults to the number pad while talking)
Any help would be appreciated. I have seen a couple threads about changing the default keyboard config, but not for this one directly.
Thanks,
Bob
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what rom r u using
Using AP4, had the same issue with AP 3.0 as well. I assume that they would be different registry keys, but any help would be appreciated...
bob_beringer said:
Using AP4, had the same issue with AP 3.0 as well. I assume that they would be different registry keys, but any help would be appreciated...
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i will look into the reg for you cause on my rom it does not do that
irus said:
i will look into the reg for you cause on my rom it does not do that
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Interesting, so when you are in a call and you type an SMS or email at the same time, the "Y U I H J K B M N ." keys don't type numbers in their place? I would love to have the letters instead of only numbers. The numbers are a help in 2% of the cases, but for the most part, I want to type notes about phone calls and without having the thumb board working, I am stuck with the touchscreen and it is much slower for me.
Either way, I appreaciate your help
v/r
Bob
bob_beringer said:
Interesting, so when you are in a call and you type an SMS or email at the same time, the "Y U I H J K B M N ." keys don't type numbers in their place? I would love to have the letters instead of only numbers. The numbers are a help in 2% of the cases, but for the most part, I want to type notes about phone calls and without having the thumb board working, I am stuck with the touchscreen and it is much slower for me.
Either way, I appreaciate your help
v/r
Bob
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i just tested to confirm and yes that is correct. i was on a call and i hit notes and started typing and it types letters not numbers. i am looking at the reg files now
i used windiff to see if i could find a difference but there were sooooo many i could not find it sorry.
Thank you
Does anyone else have any ideas on how to set the keyboard mode while talking on the phone?
Thanks,
Bob
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what rom r u using
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I'm using original spanish ROM WM6 and I have the same problem.
Me too
Let's bump this thread up the date sort:
AP 3.0, still. I can't get letters with the kbd at all when in a call, so I end up using an on-screen, or translating whatever I typed after the call. It sucks. I thought the active prg would dictate what happens with the keys. ???
I must admit the convenience of the automatic switch when in the phone app is nice.
I'm not getting why some units do this and some don't, or if it might be that people aren't using thier keyboards during a call in a different app.
Reg key? Any better ideas?
irus said:
i just tested to confirm and yes that is correct. i was on a call and i hit notes and started typing and it types letters not numbers. i am looking at the reg files now
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On screen keyboard or hardware keyboard? On screen works fine, hardware not since WM6.
its important to me, i would love to type using thumb keyboard while talking, i can confirm that vanilla version of 6.1 does that too but its a beta rom and i like AP4, maybe the athena project people can inlight us about this matter and creat a patch for us to use
for importancy am trying to keep this up, guys its doable, someone is required to just lead us, at least someone post me a clean (hard reseted) registery from a rom that works during call normally, and i will install it on my mobile (which doesn't type letters during call) if it works then at leaset we know its defenatly registry and there for i dedicate my life for it. any clean registry anyone can supply
PS am willing to Hard reset but not willing to reflash another rom am very tried from that business
Rabia said:
for importancy am trying to keep this up, guys its doable, someone is required to just lead us, at least someone post me a clean (hard reseted) registery from a rom that works during call normally, and i will install it on my mobile (which doesn't type letters during call) if it works then at leaset we know its defenatly registry and there for i dedicate my life for it. any clean registry anyone can supply
PS am willing to Hard reset but not willing to reflash another rom am very tried from that business
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If this drives you that nuts, then maybe you wouldn't mind doing a bit of investigation and sharing that with us?
Take a look at this registry key: HKLM\Software\HTC\SmartDialing\KeyboardMapping
There are some subkeys there, ToNum and ToSD. I'm guessing that those are responsible for the letter remapping. Would you mind taking a look and letting us know? Thanks!
Dialer/Dialer skine deppendent
It also could be that it is deppendent on dialer used in your system. Some dialers can switch keybaord to numbers and some can not. It would be nice if those who can write letters during a call could tell us which dialer is in their system.
Possible Path?
HKLM\Security\Phone\PhoneKeyMatch
Looks like this could be the ticket, will try to mess around with it and see if it makes any difference
v/r
Bob
Sogarth said:
If this drives you that nuts, then maybe you wouldn't mind doing a bit of investigation and sharing that with us?
Take a look at this registry key: HKLM\Software\HTC\SmartDialing\KeyboardMapping
There are some subkeys there, ToNum and ToSD. I'm guessing that those are responsible for the letter remapping. Would you mind taking a look and letting us know? Thanks!
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tried that untill deleting the whole string, no apparent effect, am trying the other syggestion now
bob_beringer said:
HKLM\Security\Phone\PhoneKeyMatch
Looks like this could be the ticket, will try to mess around with it and see if it makes any difference
v/r
Bob
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no still doesn't make a differnce too, any other suggestions
check out this thread, shows that it is really difficult to get the phone to accept changes, but that others are happy with the edits:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-296857.html
Let me know if anyone can apply the fix and solve this problem...
v/r
Bob
bob_beringer said:
check out this thread, shows that it is really difficult to get the phone to accept changes, but that others are happy with the edits:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-296857.html
Let me know if anyone can apply the fix and solve this problem...
v/r
Bob
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it didn't work for me

Thumb Keyboard problem

Lets say I'm typing something and the last word is "end." If I hit enter to start a new line but then decide I want to add something to the previous sentence I would move the cursor back to the last word "end" and hit space... instead of inserting a space, it will insert the same word again "end"
So it looks like this "endend"
Anyone else have this problem
yeah i get that as well.
Yeah. Same here. It is annoying.
HTC Flyer / Tapatalk
I sent an email to the dev and explained the problem. He said he'd look into it. Do u think its fair to ask for a refund since it doesnt even work properly for us?
I'm having the same problem with Thumb Keyboard, I also installed Swiftkey X for Tablets and it has the same issue. Did anyone find anything out on this?
are you guys talking about in the notes app. because I get the same thing but only in the notes app. for example I typed this using thumbkeyboard and tried to replicate the issue and didn't have the problem. but when I typed this in notes I did have the problem.
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are you guys talking about in the notes app. because I get the same thing but only in the notes app. for example I typed this using thumbkeyboard and tried to replicate the issue and didn't have the problem. but when I typed this in notes I did have the problem.
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I too am only having an issue with the notes app. When I tested in gmail, the browser(in a contact text field), in evernote and all worked fine.
I can confirm the issue happens with swiftkey x
I also tested it with smart Keyboard pro and I didnt experience this issue.
Man, there is nothing more annoying than seeing the question you are thinking of, pop up almost word for word on google....then seeing that the only responses are "I am having the same problem!" Come on, so NO one knows how to fix when you are typing, and (for example) want to add a letter to the middle of a word, like you want to add a "E" to death, and the cursor automatically goes to the end of the word instead of actaully putting the letter where you want it.
Does ANYONE have a clue what settings the Tumbkeyboard needs set to in order o not have the cursor jump to the end of a word?
I gave up on thumb keyboard... really made typing difficult with the double words. Kii keyboard is where it's at now.
i'm the same issue
That's strange : I don't have this issue with mine (SwiftKey X tab last version) !

Swype problem in official ICS update - Alternative Free Input Method

I have had issues with Swype since installing the first ICS, where it would stop working, cause the screen to freeze at the most inconvenience times. I thought I was alone with this problem, it appears not here.
I tried troubleshooting, reinstalling, clearing cache, uninstalling, reinstalling, fresh boot with nothing else loaded, nothing worked and I don't know what my problem must of been and was surprised I couldn't find anything else with it.
I searched for an alternative keyboard that would cut the mustard, I don't mind paying for things, but found slideIt not particularly good on the trial, also I do like the way Swype worked when it worked, so was looking for something similar, think I found it below.
I'm not one to normally worry about bothering anyone else, however after my woes of Swype and getting pretty much to the point of going back to Gingerbread because of it I have been very impressed, you can also utilize the unconventional keyboard layout if you wish.
Give it a go, worth it, for free anyway!
Touchpal Keyboard
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cootek.smartinputv5&hl=en
Unique patented technologies:
1. TouchPal Curve - the first predictive sliding in the world. Pause in the middle of sliding to get long words predicted.
2. Intelligent next-word prediction. It may save up to 80% keystrokes.
3. Magic mistyping correction on Full QWERTY layout. Blind typing is no longer a dream!
4. Mixed language input allows auto language detection. No need to switch languages.
5. Innovation of T+ dual-letter layout. Bigger keys than QWERTY.
OTHER FEATURES:
- Multi-lingual support (download language packs after installation)
- Voice input (Android 2.2+)
- Outstanding dictionary with online update
- Import contact list to your user dictionary
- Backup/restore user dictionary in SD card
- Slide down on keys to quickly input
Good you found someone else with the issue but still there are far many more including me who got zero issues.
I always wipe before and after flashing.
I always use stock ROM or AOSP.
I format system every Time I went frm one type to other.
And I only use Swype as I'm used to it and even thinking about typing is tyring.
I can't believe I just read that spam excuse of a post, in Comic Sans MS no less
Is it possible to un-see something?
*hands you a bottle of hydrochloric acid to rinse your eyes out with*
Throw it back over here when you're done so I can do mine.
oinkylicious said:
I can't believe I just read that spam excuse of a post, in Comic Sans MS no less
Is it possible to un-see something?
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oinkylicious said:
I can't believe I just read that spam excuse of a post, in Comic Sans MS no less
Is it possible to un-see something?
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Yea cheers for that oinkylicious (WAC), I stated I do not normally post something, but found a benefit to myself that others may assist from. Personally I prefer Comic Sans - and?!
May I take it from your comment you don't want me to post any more.
I'll just observe, good job everyone doesn't just do that, xda would be dead and buried...
Go troll and spread your love elsewhere if you've no post related comment or have any form of positive input..

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