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Hello everybody
I have been reading on this forum for some time now, and I understand the update process, including unlocking, its all great.
However, Im at a loss - I have no idea what I have to gain from upgrading my ROM.
I currently have an untouched T-Mobile Vario II with bootloader 1.04, hardware vesion (?) 634.
My friend has just recieved his Vario II, v646.
Everyones talking about using ROMs from other providers, but I've yet to read anything substantial about whats to be gained from switching or upgrading ROMs.
What CAN actually be changed by changing ROMs? For example, T-Mobile have been kind enough to bundle my device with a free registered version of 'Spb GPRS Monitor' - it monitors GPRS/3G and battery power, plus providing a useful bar on the today screen. it's very useful and I wouldn't want to lose it should I decide to gamble on a ROM update that provides nothing nearly as useful.
I have identified several short comings of my devide, not the least of which is the fact that it intermittantly skips every 30+ seconds when playing music through my stereo bluetooth earphones. I imagine that some kind of update will be required to fix this, as it seems to be a problem for only certain version of the device - the Vario II being the obvious.
I have also decided that I would like to try other graphic themes. Before I have a go at making my own I thought it might be nice to try some existing ones...
There are lots of hardware/radio versions published, but unless I've missed it theres very little talk about what the ROMs provide.
Cheers very much for all your help thus far, and in advance for anything else you might be able to help me with!
lets make this a simple one.. if you are happy with the device the way it is then there is nothing to change... kinda like the old saying, "If it aint broke then dont fix it"
If there are things you are looking to change then maybe post your problems here and we can tell you if you would benefit from changing roms!
I have the universal and purchased the hermes for size and HSDPA / UMTS improvements.
The universal was upgraded and hacked many times.
However, I cant see an upgrade rom hack that is available at all here for the hermes yet.
Can anybody confirm a WWE 3.x Rom upgrade being available? Mine is Imate, but I am not particularly loyal in any way, but would like more reliable Push Email, and the speed improvements that occur with 3.x
To the moderator, you cant really say if it aint broke dont fix it, cause quite often, you dont know if it is broken until you start to fix something, and you dont know if something is faster, better, more efficient, more effective, or provides improvements in functionality until a question is asked.
Its a bit like me taking my car to a mechanic, they always ask if everything is fine, it always is, but they always call me up and tell me that this isnt working, this needs fixing, and this is about to broke... You can triple the cost if you would like us to fix it.
You didnt know until somebody points out the improvements and benefits.
So, I would like the initial question answered as well, if somebody is prepared to give an explanation and some guidance.
Here's some upgrading facts for you:
There is no AKU 3.x ROM available for the Hermes yet.
Due to a new encryption strategy, ROMS take 25 minutes to flash. Any interruptions during this time may brick your device.
Also due to the above encryption strategy, we are not yet able to cook our own custom ROMS for the Hermes.
Boot Loader v1.04 which shipped with most of the early ROMs contains a bug which allows easy bypassing of CID lock. However subsequent bootloaders fix this problem and will CID lock you to your original vendor. The only crossgrade solution is to first downgrade to a BL1.04 version of your vendor's ROM then exploit the bug to load another. Device owners without a 1.04BL version of their ROM have consequently been unable to crossgrade/unlock their Hermes.
There is a bootleg solution that will flash BL1.04 on any Hermes while leaving the rest of the ROM untouched. However, it isn't available here. In fact the original owner of it's copyrighted code actively pursues anybody who posts this solution on the internet. Consequently, it's worldwide availability is constantly changing
There is a CID/SIM unlock solution by pof that is posted here which works with the 1.04 Bootloader only
The more current ROMS for the DoPod, TyTN and 8525 contain measured performance improvements
The most current radio rom (v1.20) improves battery performance
Most of the newer roms fix a media player audio stutter bug
Getting a combination of the most current radio ROM and the most current device ROM involves 40-60 minutes of flashing time and the use of the bootleg BL1.04 solution described above.
HTH!
Thanks sleuth255 for taking the time to answer comprehensively.
I am really only interested in upgrading to 3.x and will wait and see how things transpire. There was major benefits to the universal upgrade to 3.x however, the hermes doesnt appear to suffer the speed issues of the universal and I am so far very happy with the device.
jubbbird said:
Hello everybody
I have identified several short comings of my devide, not the least of which is the fact that it intermittantly skips every 30+ seconds when playing music through my stereo bluetooth earphones. I imagine that some kind of update will be required to fix this, as it seems to be a problem for only certain version of the device - the Vario II being the obvious.
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I tested all the WWE ROM here (not the one with 1.09 bootloader, because since today is a one way only road, no way to flash back the original ROM)
About music skip: not sure if upgrade will solve it (since today) but there is a good patch here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284974
Other well known problems (lost storage card in windows media player, overnight and in-call freeze, poor efficiency (short battery life in UMTS coverage, slow performances if compared to processor speed promise, ...) are still unsolved
I will suggest: play if you want, but having in mind that HERMES ROM flashing today is just for play, have a look, testing, not for really solving anything
Supercid ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=282073 ) your device to play with ROMs, now, because you have the 1.04 bootloader version. Once SUPERCIDed you can play with all ROM
Well thats my primary issue at the moment and it sounds a lot like your fix may work for me.
I am using an original ROM im guessing, with bootloader 1.04 so all the doors are open for me. I'm in nor rush, strictly speaking, because I love this device and it generally works wonders for me. I listen to music for long periods of time once in a while (long car journeys alone with my SE ds970 - plugs the ears well providing awsome noise removal from external sources, can't even hear the engine on my crappy Vauxhall Corsa with those in...) but it is during those periods that I suffer with the skipping. fixing it will be wonderful.
I have a question about your fix though, but I worry that having read the first few pages of your other thread, and the last few, I may have missed the answer so I apologise if I'm asking questions you have already answered - but I remember reading the original thread a while ago from the guy who discovered the Task Manager app that fixed the issue and he mentioned that because the software seems to prevent any CPU speed scaling (not sure if thats actually what its doing) he observed that CPU battery consumption while running that specific app + audio decreased noticably. Is this still an issue with your patch? I plan to purchase a working in-car power adapter so it won't really be a problem, but im curious
I'm gonna take my time with regards to ROM upgrades because as has been mentioned above - I have only a few issues which after reading this thread now seem to be standing issues which won't be fixed whatever I decide to do right now. Ultimately, I have the stuff I detailed above adn thus far no steadfast information about which ROMs are good for what. I don't even know anything about this 3.x business noted above...
What I'd like to know now, before I try your fix, is - if i were to install a TyTn ROM (which right now Im assuming is an original HTC TyTn ROM as oposed to a yet-to-be-released T-Mobile ROM...?) will that effectively brand it back to HTC, wipe the onboard flash, give me the original TyTn green theme, remove all the software and settings T-Mobile gave me (they were kind enough to give me a licensed copy of Spb GPRS Monitor which is quite an advantage for me - my friend has a more recent T-Mobile Vario II and they seem to have retracted the offer ... ) and leave me at square one with any fixes/improvements/new-issues that ROM provides?
I also seem to remember reading that because as yet T-Mobile have not released an original ROM, changing now is a one way trip.
I think what I need is for someone to set me in the right direction from the perspective of a early Vario II user. I really enjoy my gadgets, and the best thing about them is "fixing things that aint broke" I love upgrading and trying to squeeze it for all its worth. Better yet, updating my device and gloating to those who have no idea what that means! It's all good...
Anyway, cheers very much for your help thus far - greatly appreciated.
hi there, i recently upgraded my rom from the orginal orange one, as my phone was playing up. it was always not wanting to wake up from going in to standby without doing a soft reset. so then i upgraded to the WM6 vinilla rom, the same thing happened then but it was alot worse, then upgraded to the 0.21 rom. and im still getting the problem, without having any new programs installed its still doing it, so im not to sure whats the cause?
heres some info about it. Im in the UK with the network Orange too.
Thanks.
Radio Version: 1.06.00.00
Protocol Version: 32.37.7010.01W
ROM Verion : 3.22.110.1
Hi,
I have also recently upgraded from the original Orange rom etc to XDA Live 0.2.1. I also had occasional (only occassional) failure to wake up issues.
Since upgrading I have not had this, and the ROM is much faster and seems more stable. Today I upgraded my radio to 1.27 as well, but too early to comment on that.
I also use Phone Alarm, SPB Time, SPB Weather, and Pocket Plus. I had an issue with PA not changng profiles automatically but reverted to an slightly earlier version and touch wood it seems to have resolved it.
Can't really advise much theefore, but maybe the fact mine works (so far) could rule out a few things.
its really annoying, i would of thought that flashing a new rom it would be fine. but its still playing up, alot worse, i have to soft rest the phone everytime i want to make a phone call or to check i have a text. cant stand much longer of this. where can i get that radio rom from?
just flashed it with xda live 0.10 this time see if thats any better.
still no luck, fronzen about 4 times since i last posted. just wont wake from sleep, even if i set it to stay on without the backlight it will still freeze, im testing without a sim card in atm to see if that makes a difference,
anyone what can be causing this?
thanks.
@bomber456
Your Problem With The Calls In WMXL Is That If You've Upgraded Straight From The Orange ROM Then You Have An Old Radio Installed. Upgrade You Radio After Installing The WMXL OS And That Should Help Iron Out Your Calling Problems.
Cheers
Are you using a micro sd card?
If so, try starting from scratch WITHOUT putting the card anywhere near the phone. (ie don't use the card at all until you can prove it has nothing to do with it.)
Just a thought. I am sure some cards caused problems. (although I am using one (sandisk).
EDIT: Just seen Mousey's post - definitely a good idea, although I had the same radio as you using WM6 till I upgraded the radio today, with no problems.
where can i get a good radio for the orange network in the uk?
also i tried it without putting the sd card in and it was still the same. one thing i tried was not to put the sim card in and it was much better, dont think it crashed atall, so its down to the phone side of it.
thanks.
oh another thing, when flashing the rom it said it would take 20 mins, it only took about 5-7 mins maybe less :S is that a problem?
No. The XDA Live install is quicker than a normal rom.
"where can i get a good radio for the orange network in the uk?"
I am using 1.27 - check the wiki for radio only upgrades - same process as upgrading rom to XDA live but with a different file.
I understand that 1.34 or 1.35 are supposed to be OK, but anything from 1.27 should be OK - I have been using 1.27 today with no issues yet, but still early.
I am struggling to find any notes etc to specify the differences or specific advantages of the different radios.
Try one and see - DOESN'T NEED A HARD RESET.
installed 1.34 and its worse. losing signal etc. but im still getting crashes. i dont know what the hell is the fault. its so unstable its unbelieveable.
update : the phone doesnt crash or freeze or anything, if there is no sim card in the device. but it will crash when there is one in, i think its due to switching from 3g to gsm. also ive notcied that sometimes when i boot the phone where its supposed to display the radio and protocol info, it says no GSM!
ive now installed radio 1.27
would any software beable to still be in my phone after a rom upgrade?
any help would be great.
Perhaps try with a different SIM? may be a dodgy SIM...
seemed to work fine with my gfs orange pay as you go sim. but crashed once in a few hours. ive now unlocked my phone and CID unlocked it, and it hasnt crashed once. i think the boot number has cahnged from 04 to 06 too, seems to be stable now, (hopefully)
I just got my 8525 and so far i like it, i have WM 5 on it and it seems a little outdated. I want a new ROM and i need help deciding. The rom needs to be good with texts, phone calls and wifi primarily. Other options would be cool like the possiblity to get GPS. Please help me out.
Hey Rockman!!!!
Listen it carefully once you have unlocked succesfully your hermes go to the Windows mobile 6 subforum and try one by one... The text i dont know what do you mean with that but with cellphone signal is better to try different Radio Roms... on my country The 1.5X.XX dont works well I better get the 1.40.30 Radio Rom. On Wifi... well the wifi doesnt seems to be directly performed on the Rom is more Hardware...
So I can recomend to you the Final V10 Full Halloween By JoshKoss 6.1 Real Big Storage Normal ROM is great!!!
But who we are to say this is the wors this is the best...? if we dont cooks hahahaha whatever... try it all!!! once you upgrade you never stops to flash your device.
As + Que PPC said, you need to look at the roms yourself. What I use and what you want may be completely different.
Make sure you Hard SPL your Phone first...
I've tried many popular fancy roms and settled on this one:
Pays 3.05 windows 6.1.
Keeps the speed and gives you what you need.
http://rapidshare.com/files/9391586/Pays_WWE_305_Final_Full.rar
Hermes 8525
The only thing it needs is a direct access icon to IM somewhere on the home screen. I don't IM so Not important to me.
Keeps the speed and gives you what you need
I've tried many popular fancy roms and settled on this one:
Pays 3.05 windows 6.1.
Keeps the speed and gives you what you need.
http://rapidshare.com/files/9391586/Pays_WWE_305_Final_Full.rar[/url]
Hermes 8525
The only thing it needs is a direct access icon to IM somewhere on the home screen. I don't IM so Not important to me.
Hey guys
I am wondering in plain english what difference there is? obviously in my eyes the more memory the more responsive,
but im not just talking about speed, are there differences in stability?
Also what rom would you advise that uses the 576mb hack?
Regards
I may be talking out of turn...
Just spent last few days trying different combos of roms...
whilst the customised 576mb roms have latest and greatest features, here in the UK on Vodafone Network, having to use any 2.xx.50.xx radio leaves me with awful call quality...
Love the ROMS and their features, but not at the cost of a useable telephone.
My advice is unless your device is a native 576mb, it really isnt worth the drop in useability as a telephone.
I have been through all the .50. radios, i've tried the wavedev.dll fix... all make slightest of differences...
Back on a .51. radio... the difference is undeniably obvious...
Just my two cents... thanks for letting me get that out
strange im using one of the .50 radios now, and my call quality is fine, i mean compared to the stock i dont notice a massive massive amount of call quality difference, noticable but not too much.
im currently just reading through all the different roms to see which would suite my needs, i need stability, i cant be doing with reboots all the time, but then i love the looks of some of the custom roms
hmmm decisions!
just try some custom roms... u will find one that suites best... bet u will get flash addict!
kurniawan77 said:
just try some custom roms... u will find one that suites best... bet u will get flash addict!
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Already am, with my old HTC Desire i must have changed roms 3 times a week, well until i found a rom i loved anyway.
Quick question (for some reason when i use the search funtion on my works laptop it fails miserably and times out)
Is there anyway to install a custom rom from the SD Card?
Ive not had a problem using a .50 radio in the uk..... I think they just dont like vodaphone, Ive seen a few people complaining about it....
If anything my signal is better than before.....
ascottuk said:
Already am, with my old HTC Desire i must have changed roms 3 times a week, well until i found a rom i loved anyway.
Quick question (for some reason when i use the search funtion on my works laptop it fails miserably and times out)
Is there anyway to install a custom rom from the SD Card?
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copy the nbh file to sd card and rename it leoimg.nbh
go into bootloader and it should find teh image and flash it. If it doesnt, then try formatting teh card to fat32, and if it STILl doesnt find it, chances are you have a 8gb or 16gb card, which can be hit and miss.
as for searching, rather than teh built in search function, which is mediocre at best, bookmark and use THIS google advanced search page, and start your search with
+hd2 +leo yoursearchhere
so example
+hd2 +leo how to hspl
gives THIS
samsamuel said:
copy the nbh file to sd card and rename it leoimg.nbh
go into bootloader and it should find teh image and flash it. If it doesnt, then try formatting teh card to fat32, and if it STILl doesnt find it, chances are you have a 8gb or 16gb card, which can be hit and miss.
as for searching, rather than teh built in search function, which is mediocre at best, bookmark and use THIS google advanced search page, and start your search with
+hd2 +leo yoursearchhere
so example
+hd2 +leo how to hspl
gives THIS
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Many thanks for the info pal, much appreciated, i have a sneeky suspision that work has for some reason blocked search engines as Bing is now also not working, may just be an issue down at our london office, right im off to try duttys rom, it looks pretty darn good!
You guys may well be right about vodafone.. and .50. roms with 576Mb, if it is any help to another vodafone user to avoid the trawling and testing of roms i have done...
I don't remember having issues with call quality and .50 radios before the 576Mb versions came out.
In my tests with Energy and CleanX Ultimate ROMS 2.10.50.19_2 was the one with least static and hiss, still very poor call quality tho.
If anyone manages to get sensible call quality on .50. radio with a 576Mb ROM on a EU spec phone and vodafone let me know, as i was really enjoying Energy latest ROM.. was why i spent so long testing out the .50. Radios.
Cheers
I've been using the latest max sense energy rom with the 2.12.50.02_2 radio on my UK vodafone. I've had no problems what so ever and the call quality is excellent. It may be an area thing by the sounds of things.
I was wrong!
I was wrong
Listening to what has been written above, i installed radio rom 2.12.50. and still had terrible call quality....
so, tried my PAYG O2 sim (uses same frequencies as Vodafone) and made a call with no crackles or hiss at all!!! With no change in radio or rom, vast improvement... noted that was on 2G signal at that point...
Changed back to vodafone sim, switched to GSM only mode and as if by magic the signal was miraculously better..
At least i am one step closer to nailing the vodafone hiss/crackle between talking... something to do with how the HD2 handles 3G based calls...
I am determined to locate and sort this feature of my HD2....
Wish me luck.
Morning, Fellow Forumers!
I've been using my HD2 for a few months now, and every day my frustration grows. This thing is unstable as hell. It either stops responding completely, or the phone application hangs (sometimes it's impossible to hang up a call), or just the backlight works, or the UMTS stops working... PAIN AND MISERY! I have it upgraded to the latest official firmware, but it doesn't help at all. Tried the Touch Tools to turn off unneccesary stuff - still no good.
It's even worse when it's BT'd to my Audi MMI. Every 10 seconds or so it's completely stuck for like 2-3 seconds. It looks like the BT firmware has not been optimized at all and whenever it refreshes the phonebook/calls list/etc with my car, the GUI is dead. Fixing that would be great stuff.
So, I'm asking to point me in the right direction. I don't care about warranty or anything, just want this device to be stable! Since the official FAQ is like 10 pages long... is there a FAQ's FAQ?
Basically - what's my first step? Thanks in advance!
PS: It's a retail version (non-branded) purchased in Poland.
Your solution Must be somewhere here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=-1&f=534
And Here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=-1&f=735
As for me I am very happy with my stock Rom,so far...!!
I have no problems with stock and with most of cooked ROMs
Have you tried re flashing the latest stock rom off the htc website?
task29 can solve most problems, however if you have done all those steps and still getting problams, you may have a faulty unit and it might need to be sent back for repair/replacement.
Really sorry to hear about your problems. Wish I could give you a good solution, other than to do a hard reset and then upgrade to the latest ROM. I am running a stock ROM and the HD2 is the best phone I have ever had. And I have had a few. Good luck.
I used my hd2 on a stock rom for ages, and it was stable enough, with the odd crash occassionally. I recommend using a custom rom. Since a custom rom, my battery life has improved dramatically, my hd2 runs faster and is so stable, i cant crash it if i really try!
Duttys V9 is a personal favourite
Thanks for your help, guys. I decided to reflash to chuckyROM's wm + android 2.2. On android, everything works so much smoother. The only problem is in 80% of the cases, phone would crash when I try to perform a BT call. Might be a wrong radio version, will keep trying.
tompken said:
Thanks for your help, guys. I decided to reflash to chuckyROM's wm + android 2.2. On android, everything works so much smoother. The only problem is in 80% of the cases, phone would crash when I try to perform a BT call. Might be a wrong radio version, will keep trying.
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Bt calls are still unstable for everyone... work in peogress.....
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